mcjwills Posted 6 April, 2011 Share Posted 6 April, 2011 For those that want to shout con on you reds why not just reverse the colours and have a red shirt with a white sash ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 6 April, 2011 Share Posted 6 April, 2011 Bring back the Rank Xerox style kits. End of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 6 April, 2011 Share Posted 6 April, 2011 Bring back the Rank Xerox style kits. End of. Gets my vote, especially the away kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 6 April, 2011 Share Posted 6 April, 2011 Bring back the Rank Xerox style kits. End of. This. Or Air Florida/Draper Tools 1984. Lush kits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 6 April, 2011 Share Posted 6 April, 2011 This. Or Air Florida/Draper Tools 1984. Lush kits. I still have a Draper tools shirt although sadly it is too small for me now. Used to be nice and baggy when I bought it in 91 or 92, cant remember exactly ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 6 April, 2011 Share Posted 6 April, 2011 So were Saints, not Saints before 1950? They didn't wear black shorts until 1950. That is 65 years out of 125 years - over 50% of the clubs history without black shorts. As I started supporting them in 1966 it is all I have ever known (apart from this year). So in answer to your question, Saints are not the Saints without red and white stripes and black shorts (to me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 April, 2011 Share Posted 6 April, 2011 I love the current home kit...however, I hope we do return to what we all know and are used to and what we are known for....red and white stripes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 6 April, 2011 Share Posted 6 April, 2011 This. Or Air Florida/Draper Tools 1984. Lush kits. Love that kit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted 6 April, 2011 Share Posted 6 April, 2011 For those that want to shout con on you reds why not just reverse the colours and have a red shirt with a white sash ? Hmm, like that idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevo7 Posted 6 April, 2011 Share Posted 6 April, 2011 Go back to stripes and keep the sash for an away kit. Yellow and blue maybe. Miss the chant of YELLOWS! at away games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 6 April, 2011 Share Posted 6 April, 2011 Go back to stripes and keep the sash for an away kit. Yellow and blue maybe. Miss the chant of YELLOWS! at away games Why not just chant it anyway! Us playing in mainly white this season hasn't stopped people shouting come on you reds, so you may as well go for it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 6 April, 2011 Share Posted 6 April, 2011 Stripes and a collar please. The shirt in my avatar was the best design we've ever had. Just remake that. Simples. Is that David Cameron in a Saints shirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 6 April, 2011 Share Posted 6 April, 2011 As I started supporting them in 1966 it is all I have ever known (apart from this year). So in answer to your question, Saints are not the Saints without red and white stripes and black shorts (to me). Well that isn't true. What about the entire 1980's? Which had many fans favourite Saints kit i.e. the Air Florida one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 April, 2011 Share Posted 6 April, 2011 Well that isn't true. What about the entire 1980's? Which had many fans favourite Saints kit i.e. the Air Florida one. What is it and you being some sort of anal policeman on here.. Red and White stripes are what nearly all of us associate with saints... Apart from a few seasons here and there... Most of us in our lives have watched saints play in the stripes.. Give over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 6 April, 2011 Share Posted 6 April, 2011 Red and White stripes are what nearly all of us associate with saints... Apart from a few seasons here and there... Most of us in our lives have watched saints play in the stripes.. Give over That is no reason for it to remain that way indefinitely. Pretty much every team in England has made significant changes to its kits over the years (in most cases on numerous occasions). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 6 April, 2011 Share Posted 6 April, 2011 Far too much sentimentality attached to the stripes. Arguably our greatest moment was in yellow, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 6 April, 2011 Share Posted 6 April, 2011 It is true what another poster said on here earlier. You think of red and white stripes then you think, Saints, Sunderland, Sheffield U, Stoke, and even Exeter and Cheltenham. You think of red and you think Liverpool, Man U, Arsenal. You think blue and Chelsea and Everton. White Spurs, Bolton, Fulham and Leeds. You just link teams to colours. Even Blue and white hoops, you straight away think of Q.P.R and Reading!!! You can do this link to the whole league, and ok sometimes clubs make a change for a season or a few seasons, but then tend to go back to what they are well know for. You think of a club and you will see a colour or colours you relate to the kit....... I blame league ladders that used to be in match and shoot!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 6 April, 2011 Share Posted 6 April, 2011 Far too much sentimentality attached to the stripes. Arguably our greatest moment was in yellow, anyway. Only because we lost the toss. Is there one person on here who was at Wembley in 1976 who didn't wish we carried the cup around Wembley dressed in red and white stripes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 6 April, 2011 Share Posted 6 April, 2011 That is no reason for it to remain that way indefinitely. Pretty much every team in England has made significant changes to its kits over the years (in most cases on numerous occasions). Really? They might change styles slightly but most clubs stick with their basics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 6 April, 2011 Share Posted 6 April, 2011 Well that isn't true. What about the entire 1980's? Which had many fans favourite Saints kit i.e. the Air Florida one. Large stripes, small stripes..stripes are still stripes. This is the only season since I have supported Saints that we have not had stripes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 6 April, 2011 Share Posted 6 April, 2011 Much of the kit debate was covered here a couple of weeks ago: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?28897-Time-for-a-quot-new-kit-quot-thread No better suggestion than this by Gecko: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint Posted 6 April, 2011 Share Posted 6 April, 2011 Much of the kit debate was covered here a couple of weeks ago: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?28897-Time-for-a-quot-new-kit-quot-thread No better suggestion than this by Gecko: Not bad, but never been a fan of the badge in the middle, just my honest opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKimish Posted 6 April, 2011 Share Posted 6 April, 2011 Almost perfect. Just replace the nPower League 1 badges for nPower Championship ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 6 April, 2011 Share Posted 6 April, 2011 Large stripes, small stripes..stripes are still stripes. This is the only season since I have supported Saints that we have not had stripes. So what about this? 1985 to 1987... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 6 April, 2011 Share Posted 6 April, 2011 Much of the kit debate was covered here a couple of weeks ago: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?28897-Time-for-a-quot-new-kit-quot-thread No better suggestion than this by Gecko: Sorry but that kit with the sponsor logo to boot is quite frankly awful IMO. More than happy to keep the sash - it's a red and white stripe design - just one stripe that's all! I would like us to hit the NPC and then the Prem with some originality TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 April, 2011 Share Posted 6 April, 2011 Sorry but that kit with the sponsor logo to boot is quite frankly awful IMO. More than happy to keep the sash - it's a red and white stripe design - just one stripe that's all! I would like us to hit the NPC and then the Prem with some originality TBH. Awful? I'm sorry but that look brilliant really. If we keep the sash for an extended period I will be annoyed. We are red and white stripes and I think the majority is in agreement with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 another one for sash! looks good, identifies us easily - not like just another stripes! hopefully connected with success many of our most famous images were not from stripes - google "keegan saints" or "channon saints" "alan ball saints" - first images are not stripes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 Stripes every time, narrow ones Don't mind the sash but it does not flatter any of our fans, adds half a stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 The sash has served it's purpose, feel privilidged that you were around to wear it on our 125th anniversary, back to the closet with it now in preparation for those lucky folk who will don it on our 250th. Hail - the return of red and white stripes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 Is that David Cameron in a Saints shirt Yeah he's a massive Saints fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 If we remember my vote on here a while ago, it is all very well saying which one we prefer, when in fact the votes were pretty much split 50/50. For every person (me) who thinks we should keep the sash there is a person who thinks we should being back the stripes. Conclusion: We can only please half of the fans (assuming this board is reflective of fans as a whole). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 Like this perhaps? Like an AC Milan away kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 Personally, for what it's worth I'd like to stick with the sash. I too love the stripes but I think this kit is the best we've ever had. As others have said you associate teams with colours, however we are just one among many with the red and white stripes. With the sash we are pretty much on our own. Why not start at year dot again? We have a new owner, a new positive outlook and hopefully, soon we will be back in the prem reborn. Our own distinctive kit would fit all of this nicely. Maybe the red with white sash might be a better fit from the point of view of the past, as well as suiting our Swiss owners. However I don't think it will have the same visual impact as the current one. My boys wear theirs to training in south east London and although part of it is my bias, they are by far the coolest and the most noticable amongst all the arsenal, Chelsea and united kits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 Only because we lost the toss. Is there one person on here who was at Wembley in 1976 who didn't wish we carried the cup around Wembley dressed in red and white stripes? Not me, Saints ARE Red and White stripes, and should always remain so It's the same scenario with England. Back in 66, they lost the toss v W Germany, and had to play in a spare Man U kit Ever since then, al the "younger" Fans think that it is Englands True colors It isn't It was always White shirts, Black shorts, white socks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 Honestly, I don't get why people care so much, it's a bit sad. So long as Saints aren't playing in a totally different colour (i.e. blue), does it really matter what variety/pattern of red, white and some black it is?? Most people who'll buy the replica shirts will be squeezing in to them anyway. Footballers are ridiculously slim/lean, so the shirts will always look fine, but the rest of us just look stupid. With ONE exception, when worn by a woman with nothing else on. (Okay, and [tubby] office workers playing five-a-side are allowed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 Honestly, I don't get why people care so much, it's a bit sad. So long as Saints aren't playing in a totally different colour (i.e. blue), does it really matter what variety/pattern of red, white and some black it is?? Most people who'll buy the replica shirts will be squeezing in to them anyway. Footballers are ridiculously slim/lean, so the shirts will always look fine, but the rest of us just look stupid. With ONE exception, when worn by a woman with nothing else on. (Okay, and [tubby] office workers playing five-a-side are allowed) What name are you getting on the back of your shirt next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyin Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 Much of the kit debate was covered here a couple of weeks ago: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?28897-Time-for-a-quot-new-kit-quot-thread No better suggestion than this by Gecko: I wonder what the letters to the editor comments in the Echo & Pink were when Saints launched the Patrick kit all those years ago? I'd lay money on their being an outcry at the loss of stripes - not that the admiral one beforehand was in anyway traditional - but to go down to three blocks of colour - sheesh. I'd love the three stripes, it reminds me of the best of times supporting Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 Only because we lost the toss. So what ? Is there one person on here who was at Wembley in 1976 who didn't wish we carried the cup around Wembley dressed in red and white stripes? Can quite safely say I have never given it a nanosecond's thought, and couldnt give a sh*t anyway. We were fated to win the cup in yellow. End of. I want a kit that allows us to stand out from the crowd and not get confused and half-approach fans of Sunderland or Exter when out shopping or on the beach on holiday. I like Gecko's suggestions, but would prefer dark blue instead of black on the away kit, even if the black is more our traditional colour. I also like the idea of keeping the sash or trying out quarters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 Much of the kit debate was covered here a couple of weeks ago: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?28897-Time-for-a-quot-new-kit-quot-thread No better suggestion than this by Gecko: Sorry no. Never liked that kit even when Keegan wore it. IMHO we go back to Red & White Stripes OR we stay with the Sash. Some of those mixed and match and messed up with black lines kits were NOT Red & White Stripes, so for once being pedantic, Stripes or stick for me. Oh and BTW we won't go back to full stripes anyway. If we are aiming for the PL we will need to go with that godawful full colour mess on the back like Stoke have. It was a UEFA rule I believe and we got away with it by an exemption for our history yadda yadda or something. We won't be able to pull the same stunt again. I've grown to like the Sash. I understand our historical attachment to stripes and want them back, BUT the Sash conveys something else and very important. It represents our new start, the moment when the BAD parts of our history went - a cleansing if you like. I'm pretty damned sure more people will notice us as we climb up to the CL in our Sash than they would confusing us with Sunderland & Stoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essruu Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 Stripes every time, narrow ones Don't mind the sash but it does not flatter any of our fans, adds half a stone. The kit doesn't add half a stone to the wearer: it's just that (apart from kids) it's generally fat losers that wear replica shirts. It's their fat that makes them look fat, not the shirt they're wearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 It is true what another poster said on here earlier. You think of red and white stripes then you think, Saints, Sunderland, Sheffield U, Stoke, and even Exeter and Cheltenham. You think of red and you think Liverpool, Man U, Arsenal. You think blue and Chelsea and Everton. White Spurs, Bolton, Fulham and Leeds. You just link teams to colours. Even Blue and white hoops, you straight away think of Q.P.R and Reading!!! You can do this link to the whole league, and ok sometimes clubs make a change for a season or a few seasons, but then tend to go back to what they are well know for. You think of a club and you will see a colour or colours you relate to the kit....... I blame league ladders that used to be in match and shoot!!! An interesting example given that Leeds didn't play in white until the late 1950s and all of the others played in different colours to those above during their formative years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 The kit doesn't add half a stone to the wearer: it's just that (apart from kids) it's generally fat losers that wear replica shirts. It's their fat that makes them look fat, not the shirt they're wearing. Is that why we keep selling out of Medium-sized shirts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 Going back to the original post, I'd be more surprised if they didn't have the sash as one of the kits they're looking at, considering how successful it's been (just look around the ground next game), and the fact they'd want our current kit to work from as well. Doesn't necessarily mean that's what we'll end up with, although personally I wouldn't mind us staying with it long term. I love the fact that we stand out, that you see our kit and KNOW it's Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 (edited) I wonder what the letters to the editor comments in the Echo & Pink were when Saints launched the Patrick kit all those years ago? I'd lay money on their being an outcry at the loss of stripes - not that the admiral one beforehand was in anyway traditional - but to go down to three blocks of colour - sheesh. I'd love the three stripes, it reminds me of the best of times supporting Saints. People seem to keep missing the fact that the Patrick kit (well, the first one) WAS stripes. It was a broad central stripe with two contrasting stripes either side, AND a further pair of stripes which were the same as the central stripe at the side of the shirt. It can be clearly seen here : and it's not hugely dissimilar to this one, which no-one moaned about for not being striped, other than the central stripe being a bit narrower : Edited 7 April, 2011 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 I want the strip we got promoted in in 1978!!!! Classic Phil Boyer.............It worked last time we wore it so hopefully it could again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyin Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 The kit doesn't add half a stone to the wearer: it's just that (apart from kids) it's generally fat losers that wear replica shirts. It's their fat that makes them look fat, not the shirt they're wearing. you are such a k no b and no, I don't wear replica shirts and no, I'm not fat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Saint Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 Man U and Liverpool play in Red Chelsea Pompey in Blue Stoke Sunderland Southampton play in Red and White Stripes Absolutely. Can we also add AC Milan; Inter; Barca and Real Madrid. The point is that only clubs with problems about their self image mess arround with their kits. One season of being a pale imitation of Crystal Palace is enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 Sorry no. Never liked that kit even when Keegan wore it. IMHO we go back to Red & White Stripes OR we stay with the Sash. Some of those mixed and match and messed up with black lines kits were NOT Red & White Stripes, so for once being pedantic, Stripes or stick for me. Oh and BTW we won't go back to full stripes anyway. If we are aiming for the PL we will need to go with that godawful full colour mess on the back like Stoke have. It was a UEFA rule I believe and we got away with it by an exemption for our history yadda yadda or something. We won't be able to pull the same stunt again. I've grown to like the Sash. I understand our historical attachment to stripes and want them back, BUT the Sash conveys something else and very important. It represents our new start, the moment when the BAD parts of our history went - a cleansing if you like. I'm pretty damned sure more people will notice us as we climb up to the CL in our Sash than they would confusing us with Sunderland & Stoke That is an excellent point, Phil. Post-Lowe Saints. Like it. How about a double sash, as in a "V" shape, as in the two fingers to Lowe ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 Absolutely. Can we also add AC Milan; Inter; Barca and Real Madrid. The point is that only clubs with problems about their self image mess arround with their kits. One season of being a pale imitation of Crystal Palace is enough. That would be Milan and Inter who both wore white shirts for 20 years in the 1920s ? And Real Madrid who started off wearing a kit with a blue sash ? All teams have worn different shirts if not outright different colours - Barcelona have always had the same colours but started off in halved shirts not stripes too. And as for "a pale imitation of Crystal Palace", is that the Crystal Palace who've only worn a white kit with a diagonal on it for 11 years in the 1970s/80s and once in 2008, otherwise wearing claret and sky blue / white and black / white and claret/sky blue / red and blue stripes for the other 95 years of their history? Add to that that the diagonal doesn't even go the same way, either, never mind it being two colours. We don't look anything like ANY Crystal Palace kit. I'm not bothered whether we go back to stripes or not (though we clearly will), but let's not fabricate some nonsense about teams never changing their kits to try and justify it, especially in an age when teams change the fundamental design every season for financial reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 (edited) That is an excellent point, Phil. Post-Lowe Saints. Like it. How about a double sash, as in a "V" shape, as in the two fingers to Lowe ? Funny you should mention that, Umbro have just launched a new V template for Bohemians in Ireland. I could quite go for either this season's sash in yellow/blue or even that in yellow/blue (maybe with white). I still think we're getting this year's Rangers away template for the home kit : Edited 7 April, 2011 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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