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So were Saints, not Saints before 1950?

 

They didn't wear black shorts until 1950. That is 65 years out of 125 years - over 50% of the clubs history without black shorts.

 

As I started supporting them in 1966 it is all I have ever known (apart from this year). So in answer to your question, Saints are not the Saints without red and white stripes and black shorts (to me).

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Go back to stripes and keep the sash for an away kit. Yellow and blue maybe. Miss the chant of YELLOWS! at away games

Why not just chant it anyway! Us playing in mainly white this season hasn't stopped people shouting come on you reds, so you may as well go for it!!! :lol:

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As I started supporting them in 1966 it is all I have ever known (apart from this year). So in answer to your question, Saints are not the Saints without red and white stripes and black shorts (to me).

 

Well that isn't true. What about the entire 1980's? Which had many fans favourite Saints kit i.e. the Air Florida one.

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Well that isn't true. What about the entire 1980's? Which had many fans favourite Saints kit i.e. the Air Florida one.

 

What is it and you being some sort of anal policeman on here..

 

Red and White stripes are what nearly all of us associate with saints... Apart from a few seasons here and there... Most of us in our lives have watched saints play in the stripes.. Give over

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Red and White stripes are what nearly all of us associate with saints... Apart from a few seasons here and there... Most of us in our lives have watched saints play in the stripes.. Give over

 

That is no reason for it to remain that way indefinitely. Pretty much every team in England has made significant changes to its kits over the years (in most cases on numerous occasions).

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It is true what another poster said on here earlier. You think of red and white stripes then you think, Saints, Sunderland, Sheffield U, Stoke, and even Exeter and Cheltenham. You think of red and you think Liverpool, Man U, Arsenal. You think blue and Chelsea and Everton. White Spurs, Bolton, Fulham and Leeds. You just link teams to colours. Even Blue and white hoops, you straight away think of Q.P.R and Reading!!! You can do this link to the whole league, and ok sometimes clubs make a change for a season or a few seasons, but then tend to go back to what they are well know for.

 

You think of a club and you will see a colour or colours you relate to the kit....... I blame league ladders that used to be in match and shoot!!!

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Far too much sentimentality attached to the stripes.

 

Arguably our greatest moment was in yellow, anyway.

 

Only because we lost the toss. Is there one person on here who was at Wembley in 1976 who didn't wish we carried the cup around Wembley dressed in red and white stripes?

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That is no reason for it to remain that way indefinitely. Pretty much every team in England has made significant changes to its kits over the years (in most cases on numerous occasions).

 

Really? They might change styles slightly but most clubs stick with their basics.

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Well that isn't true. What about the entire 1980's? Which had many fans favourite Saints kit i.e. the Air Florida one.

 

Large stripes, small stripes..stripes are still stripes. This is the only season since I have supported Saints that we have not had stripes.

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Much of the kit debate was covered here a couple of weeks ago:

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?28897-Time-for-a-quot-new-kit-quot-thread

 

No better suggestion than this by Gecko:

 

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Sorry but that kit with the sponsor logo to boot is quite frankly awful IMO. More than happy to keep the sash - it's a red and white stripe design - just one stripe that's all! I would like us to hit the NPC and then the Prem with some originality TBH.

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Sorry but that kit with the sponsor logo to boot is quite frankly awful IMO. More than happy to keep the sash - it's a red and white stripe design - just one stripe that's all! I would like us to hit the NPC and then the Prem with some originality TBH.

 

Awful? I'm sorry but that look brilliant really. If we keep the sash for an extended period I will be annoyed. We are red and white stripes and I think the majority is in agreement with that.

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another one for sash!

 

looks good, identifies us easily - not like just another stripes!

 

hopefully connected with success

 

many of our most famous images were not from stripes - google "keegan saints" or "channon saints" "alan ball saints" - first images are not stripes.

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The sash has served it's purpose, feel privilidged that you were around to wear it on our 125th anniversary, back to the closet with it now in preparation for those lucky folk who will don it on our 250th. Hail - the return of red and white stripes.

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If we remember my vote on here a while ago, it is all very well saying which one we prefer, when in fact the votes were pretty much split 50/50. For every person (me) who thinks we should keep the sash there is a person who thinks we should being back the stripes.

 

Conclusion: We can only please half of the fans (assuming this board is reflective of fans as a whole).

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Personally, for what it's worth I'd like to stick with the sash. I too love the stripes but I think this kit is the best we've ever had. As others have said you associate teams with colours, however we are just one among many with the red and white stripes. With the sash we are pretty much on our own. Why not start at year dot again? We have a new owner, a new positive outlook and hopefully, soon we will be back in the prem reborn. Our own distinctive kit would fit all of this nicely. Maybe the red with white sash might be a better fit from the point of view of the past, as well as suiting our Swiss owners. However I don't think it will have the same visual impact as the current one. My boys wear theirs to training in south east London and although part of it is my bias, they are by far the coolest and the most noticable amongst all the arsenal, Chelsea and united kits.

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Only because we lost the toss. Is there one person on here who was at Wembley in 1976 who didn't wish we carried the cup around Wembley dressed in red and white stripes?

 

Not me, Saints ARE Red and White stripes, and should always remain so

 

It's the same scenario with England. Back in 66, they lost the toss v W Germany, and had to play in a spare Man U kit

 

Ever since then, al the "younger" Fans think that it is Englands True colors

 

It isn't

 

It was always White shirts, Black shorts, white socks

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Honestly, I don't get why people care so much, it's a bit sad. So long as Saints aren't playing in a totally different colour (i.e. blue), does it really matter what variety/pattern of red, white and some black it is??

 

Most people who'll buy the replica shirts will be squeezing in to them anyway. Footballers are ridiculously slim/lean, so the shirts will always look fine, but the rest of us just look stupid.

With ONE exception, when worn by a woman with nothing else on.

 

(Okay, and [tubby] office workers playing five-a-side are allowed)

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Honestly, I don't get why people care so much, it's a bit sad. So long as Saints aren't playing in a totally different colour (i.e. blue), does it really matter what variety/pattern of red, white and some black it is??

 

Most people who'll buy the replica shirts will be squeezing in to them anyway. Footballers are ridiculously slim/lean, so the shirts will always look fine, but the rest of us just look stupid.

With ONE exception, when worn by a woman with nothing else on.

 

(Okay, and [tubby] office workers playing five-a-side are allowed)

 

What name are you getting on the back of your shirt next season?

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Much of the kit debate was covered here a couple of weeks ago:

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?28897-Time-for-a-quot-new-kit-quot-thread

 

No better suggestion than this by Gecko:

 

SFC-kit-history-22.png

 

I wonder what the letters to the editor comments in the Echo & Pink were when Saints launched the Patrick kit all those years ago? I'd lay money on their being an outcry at the loss of stripes - not that the admiral one beforehand was in anyway traditional - but to go down to three blocks of colour - sheesh.

 

I'd love the three stripes, it reminds me of the best of times supporting Saints.

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Only because we lost the toss.

 

So what ?

 

Is there one person on here who was at Wembley in 1976 who didn't wish we carried the cup around Wembley dressed in red and white stripes?

 

Can quite safely say I have never given it a nanosecond's thought, and couldnt give a sh*t anyway. We were fated to win the cup in yellow. End of.

 

I want a kit that allows us to stand out from the crowd and not get confused and half-approach fans of Sunderland or Exter when out shopping or on the beach on holiday.

 

I like Gecko's suggestions, but would prefer dark blue instead of black on the away kit, even if the black is more our traditional colour.

 

I also like the idea of keeping the sash or trying out quarters.

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Much of the kit debate was covered here a couple of weeks ago:

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?28897-Time-for-a-quot-new-kit-quot-thread

 

No better suggestion than this by Gecko:

 

SFC-kit-history-22.png

 

Sorry no.

 

Never liked that kit even when Keegan wore it.

 

IMHO we go back to Red & White Stripes OR we stay with the Sash. Some of those mixed and match and messed up with black lines kits were NOT Red & White Stripes, so for once being pedantic, Stripes or stick for me.

 

Oh and BTW we won't go back to full stripes anyway. If we are aiming for the PL we will need to go with that godawful full colour mess on the back like Stoke have. It was a UEFA rule I believe and we got away with it by an exemption for our history yadda yadda or something. We won't be able to pull the same stunt again.

 

I've grown to like the Sash. I understand our historical attachment to stripes and want them back, BUT the Sash conveys something else and very important.

 

It represents our new start, the moment when the BAD parts of our history went - a cleansing if you like.

 

I'm pretty damned sure more people will notice us as we climb up to the CL in our Sash than they would confusing us with Sunderland & Stoke

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Stripes every time, narrow ones

 

Don't mind the sash but it does not flatter any of our fans, adds half a stone.

 

The kit doesn't add half a stone to the wearer: it's just that (apart from kids) it's generally fat losers that wear replica shirts. It's their fat that makes them look fat, not the shirt they're wearing.

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It is true what another poster said on here earlier. You think of red and white stripes then you think, Saints, Sunderland, Sheffield U, Stoke, and even Exeter and Cheltenham. You think of red and you think Liverpool, Man U, Arsenal. You think blue and Chelsea and Everton. White Spurs, Bolton, Fulham and Leeds. You just link teams to colours. Even Blue and white hoops, you straight away think of Q.P.R and Reading!!! You can do this link to the whole league, and ok sometimes clubs make a change for a season or a few seasons, but then tend to go back to what they are well know for.

 

You think of a club and you will see a colour or colours you relate to the kit....... I blame league ladders that used to be in match and shoot!!!

 

An interesting example given that Leeds didn't play in white until the late 1950s and all of the others played in different colours to those above during their formative years.

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The kit doesn't add half a stone to the wearer: it's just that (apart from kids) it's generally fat losers that wear replica shirts. It's their fat that makes them look fat, not the shirt they're wearing.

 

Is that why we keep selling out of Medium-sized shirts ?

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Going back to the original post, I'd be more surprised if they didn't have the sash as one of the kits they're looking at, considering how successful it's been (just look around the ground next game), and the fact they'd want our current kit to work from as well.

 

Doesn't necessarily mean that's what we'll end up with, although personally I wouldn't mind us staying with it long term. I love the fact that we stand out, that you see our kit and KNOW it's Saints.

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I wonder what the letters to the editor comments in the Echo & Pink were when Saints launched the Patrick kit all those years ago? I'd lay money on their being an outcry at the loss of stripes - not that the admiral one beforehand was in anyway traditional - but to go down to three blocks of colour - sheesh.

 

I'd love the three stripes, it reminds me of the best of times supporting Saints.

 

People seem to keep missing the fact that the Patrick kit (well, the first one) WAS stripes. It was a broad central stripe with two contrasting stripes either side, AND a further pair of stripes which were the same as the central stripe at the side of the shirt. It can be clearly seen here :

 

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and it's not hugely dissimilar to this one, which no-one moaned about for not being striped, other than the central stripe being a bit narrower :

 

images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRM04qi2Lmru6OMf7ncUM_JbAX3DjkkuzFIiY6kYrOMEEorVrS_

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The kit doesn't add half a stone to the wearer: it's just that (apart from kids) it's generally fat losers that wear replica shirts. It's their fat that makes them look fat, not the shirt they're wearing.

 

you are such a k no b and no, I don't wear replica shirts and no, I'm not fat

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Man U and Liverpool play in Red

 

Chelsea Pompey in Blue

 

Stoke Sunderland Southampton play in Red and White Stripes

 

Absolutely. Can we also add AC Milan; Inter; Barca and Real Madrid. The point is that only clubs with problems about their self image mess arround with their kits. One season of being a pale imitation of Crystal Palace is enough.

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Sorry no.

 

Never liked that kit even when Keegan wore it.

 

IMHO we go back to Red & White Stripes OR we stay with the Sash. Some of those mixed and match and messed up with black lines kits were NOT Red & White Stripes, so for once being pedantic, Stripes or stick for me.

 

Oh and BTW we won't go back to full stripes anyway. If we are aiming for the PL we will need to go with that godawful full colour mess on the back like Stoke have. It was a UEFA rule I believe and we got away with it by an exemption for our history yadda yadda or something. We won't be able to pull the same stunt again.

 

I've grown to like the Sash. I understand our historical attachment to stripes and want them back, BUT the Sash conveys something else and very important.

 

It represents our new start, the moment when the BAD parts of our history went - a cleansing if you like.

 

I'm pretty damned sure more people will notice us as we climb up to the CL in our Sash than they would confusing us with Sunderland & Stoke

That is an excellent point, Phil. Post-Lowe Saints. Like it.

 

How about a double sash, as in a "V" shape, as in the two fingers to Lowe ?

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Absolutely. Can we also add AC Milan; Inter; Barca and Real Madrid. The point is that only clubs with problems about their self image mess arround with their kits. One season of being a pale imitation of Crystal Palace is enough.

 

That would be Milan and Inter who both wore white shirts for 20 years in the 1920s ? And Real Madrid who started off wearing a kit with a blue sash ? All teams have worn different shirts if not outright different colours - Barcelona have always had the same colours but started off in halved shirts not stripes too.

 

And as for "a pale imitation of Crystal Palace", is that the Crystal Palace who've only worn a white kit with a diagonal on it for 11 years in the 1970s/80s and once in 2008, otherwise wearing claret and sky blue / white and black / white and claret/sky blue / red and blue stripes for the other 95 years of their history? Add to that that the diagonal doesn't even go the same way, either, never mind it being two colours. We don't look anything like ANY Crystal Palace kit.

 

I'm not bothered whether we go back to stripes or not (though we clearly will), but let's not fabricate some nonsense about teams never changing their kits to try and justify it, especially in an age when teams change the fundamental design every season for financial reasons.

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That is an excellent point, Phil. Post-Lowe Saints. Like it.

 

How about a double sash, as in a "V" shape, as in the two fingers to Lowe ?

 

Funny you should mention that, Umbro have just launched a new V template for Bohemians in Ireland.

 

Bohemian-11-12-away-umbro-football-shirt.jpg

 

I could quite go for either this season's sash in yellow/blue or even that in yellow/blue (maybe with white).

 

I still think we're getting this year's Rangers away template for the home kit :

 

rangers-10-11-umbro-away-kit-a.jpg

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