Spudders Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 Have any of you ever been on any kind of protest/march? If so, what was it about and what were your motives? (ie did you really feel strongly about the cause, or just go for a laugh/because mates were going/etc?) I see that protesters are supposedly going to try and ruin the royal wedding at the end of this month. I am happy that we’ve been given an extra days holiday for the wedding day (and that’s as far as my interest in the event goes!!!) but I wonder what kind of person wishes to use their extra days holiday to travel to London and march/cause a fuss? Personally I am too apathetic / lazy to wish to go on any kind of protest march, especially on a day of my own holiday. Maybe if there was something that dramatically impacted me personally in a negative way then I might change my mind, but until that happens I’ll limit my protesting activity to the occasional moan in the interweb. Do we have any active protesters on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 I wonder what kind of person wishes to use their extra days holiday to travel to London and march/cause a fuss? Do you really need an answer to that one....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 Coincidently, I'm organising a "Protest against the protesters" march on the very same day. Should be interesting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 1 April, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 April, 2011 Do you really need an answer to that one....? I would guess people who don't work, but then surely they would usually be exactly the kind of people that would not be bothering to waste a day doin something requiring such effort Coincidently, I'm organising a "Protest against the protesters" march on the very same day. Should be interesting.... I'd say I'll come, but I know I couldn't be bothered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 Have any of you ever been on any kind of protest/march? I was at the Poll tax Riots in 1990. I was living in London at the time, so just went along for a few beers and to nose about, see what was going on. I was stood around in Trafalgar Square, minding my own business when I was smashed about the head by nutty coppers with truncheons. Wrong place at the worng time I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 i did the swing lowe/17yr old protests. the royal wedding is gonna be interesting; protesters, tourists and terrorists all in the mix. i sincerely hope the protesters make their voices heard... in the deep recession, watching this overtly wealthy family splashing all the tax revenue on a fancy wedding and a honeymoon = is utterly disgusting (yes i know they create wealth from tourism, but i still find it shamefull blowing our millions on a booze up) i guess anyone who protested the tuition stitch up, and/or the tory cuts protests should be out to cause utter mayhem, as a royal wedding really is 'icing on the cake' in taking the utter **** out of people trying to get by in the UK. a little tempted actually, pop up to town for a laugh, watch society beating itself up, have a beer, get beaten up by the firm (police)... or not?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 I went on some Anti Apartheid marches in the 80s. Trafalgar Square was always noisy, the O.B. always kept us away from S.A. House although there was no trouble because it was well marshalled by the organisers. No rent a mobs like it seems to be these days. The evenings, around Clapham Common, in the pubs and bars, were always great for a laugh with people you had met from all over the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 i did the swing lowe/17yr old protests. the royal wedding is gonna be interesting; protesters, tourists and terrorists all in the mix. i sincerely hope the protesters make their voices heard... in the deep recession, watching this overtly wealthy family splashing all the tax revenue on a fancy wedding and a honeymoon = is utterly disgusting (yes i know they create wealth from tourism, but i still find it shamefull blowing our millions on a booze up) i guess anyone who protested the tuition stitch up, and/or the tory cuts protests should be out to cause utter mayhem, as a royal wedding really is 'icing on the cake' in taking the utter **** out of people trying to get by in the UK. a little tempted actually, pop up to town for a laugh, watch society beating itself up, have a beer, get beaten up by the firm (police)... or not?!? What ever your opinions on our Royal Family, this is a show piece tourist event that will hopefully generate billions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 Did 2 of the 4 national student fees protests, plus other local events. Also was at the march for the alternative the other week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 Did 2 of the 4 national student fees protests, plus other local events. Also was at the march for the alternative the other week. After my dismal failure to gleen figures from the 'cuts' march, any less than woolly figures available from those other protests? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 IF all football fans were allowed to get away with half of want protestors are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 After my dismal failure to gleen figures from the 'cuts' march, any less than woolly figures available from those other protests? ;-) Pretty much, don't raise fees/cut fees to £0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 Ive been on anti Poll Tax marches in London and Southampton. Ive also attended the first anti war march when over a million and a half people were in london(was also filmed on that march by the BBC). Went on a couple of anti hunting marches,though they were quite low key. Did all the anti Lowe stuff. Also went last Saturday on the anti cuts march,again in London. No doubt there will be a few more coming up soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 I went on a hunger strike once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 1 April, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 April, 2011 I went on a hunger strike once. I think you need the 'Going on stikes' thread Deppo, I can see how you got confused though, these things happen when you are hungry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 I went on a counter demo against Al mahaijouroun (who were later linked with the 7/7 attack) in the mid 90's. They were supposed to be preaching in Trafalgar Square but in the end they didn't show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 I went on a counter demo against Al mahaijouroun (who were later linked with the 7/7 attack) in the mid 90's. They were supposed to be preaching in Trafalgar Square but in the end they didn't show. They were probably scared of you and ran away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 They were probably scared of you and ran away. Probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 Poll tax would have been fairer than council tax....right..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 Poll tax would have been fairer than council tax....right..? Wrong! Wrong! And wrong again!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 Wrong! Wrong! And wrong again!!! seriously...I dont know..explain..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 Ok Delldays the main reason the Poll Tax was so hated was because it was so unfair that a millionaire should pay the same tax as a person on a low income. The tax was based on per person,so if you had a family in a council house and a millionaire in a mansion living on his own,the family would pay a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 Ok Delldays the main reason the Poll Tax was so hated was because it was so unfair that a millionaire should pay the same tax as a person on a low income. The tax was based on per person,so if you had a family in a council house and a millionaire in a mansion living on his own,the family would pay a lot more. fair enough I pay the same as the flat above..they have 6 people in it...3 of which are professionals...I use the "services" far less than them..yet I pay the same.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedFear Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 I went to protest George Bush on his state visit here for reasons that dont need explainig and we went up to the G8 Protest which, for us, was a general protest at where the world was heading and how it was being run. Nothing specific. Being on a couple, especially the G8, i can assure you all that some police (not all) are as intent on on volence and general mayhem as certian protesters. There are definitely two sides to all stories when these things kick off As you can see the protests were phenomenally successful and we now live and much fairer and peaceful world(!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 Ok Delldays the main reason the Poll Tax was so hated was because it was so unfair that a millionaire should pay the same tax as a person on a low income. The tax was based on per person,so if you had a family in a council house and a millionaire in a mansion living on his own,the family would pay a lot more. Why's that unfair? The family would consume far more local services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latter day saint Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 Being on a couple, especially the G8, i can assure you all that some police (not all) are as intent on on volence and general mayhem as certian protesters. There are definitely two sides to all stories when these things kick off(!) having lived in a mining village during the miners strike i can definitely agree with that. the Met police were real bastards! i was only a nipper but went on a couple of marches to the pit, which was great fun also did one of the cjb protests in 94. ended up in Hyde park dancing around to pounding techno, then the plod charged with horses. very messy day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 Why's that unfair? The family would consume far more local services. How? So a family on a low wage should pay the same as someone who earns millions and lives in a big house with lots of land? The Poll Tax covered what the council tax does now. So it covers the police,fire service bin collections etc.So how does a family use more than a millionaire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 and we went up to the G8 Protest which, for us, was a general protest at where the world was heading and how it was being run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 Why's that unfair? The family would consume far more local services. It wasn't formulated that way and that was the major problem with it. As with many of these things, it was poorly thought out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 Did all the Lowe stuff and the Branfoot stuff too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 (edited) Why's that unfair? The family would consume far more local services. This has to qualify as one of the most thoughtless (in the literal sense) comments I've read in years - you've outduned dune, something I thought not possible. So your basic 'premise' - to use your funny terminology - is that those who cost the welfare state more should pay for it. In case you hadn't realised, that isn't then a welfare state at all - or any kind of recognisably civilised society. People protested because the tax was wrong. Thatcher u-turned on it - this same 'lady' who is 'not for turning' - because even in her ideological haze she could see it was a disaster. As for going on protest marches, I've been on a few. It is a democratic right, you know. Edited 1 April, 2011 by Verbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 1 April, 2011 Share Posted 1 April, 2011 This has to qualify as one of the most thoughtless (in the literal sense) comments I've read in years - you've outduned dune, something I thought not possible. So your basic 'premise' - to use your funny terminology - is that those who cost the welfare state more should pay for it. In case you hadn't realised, that isn't then a welfare state at all - or any kind of recognisably civilised society. People protested because the tax was wrong. Thatcher u-turned on it - this same 'lady' who is 'not for turning' - because even in her ideological haze she could see it was a disaster. As for going on protest marches, I've been on a few. It is a democratic right, you know. Brillaint post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 2 April, 2011 Share Posted 2 April, 2011 This has to qualify as one of the most thoughtless (in the literal sense) comments I've read in years - you've outduned dune, something I thought not possible. So your basic 'premise' - to use your funny terminology - is that those who cost the welfare state more should pay for it. In case you hadn't realised, that isn't then a welfare state at all - or any kind of recognisably civilised society. People protested because the tax was wrong. Thatcher u-turned on it - this same 'lady' who is 'not for turning' - because even in her ideological haze she could see it was a disaster. As for going on protest marches, I've been on a few. It is a democratic right, you know. You wouldn't think it was a democratic right with the amount of leasing with the authorities you have to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 2 April, 2011 Share Posted 2 April, 2011 How? So a family on a low wage should pay the same as someone who earns millions and lives in a big house with lots of land? The Poll Tax covered what the council tax does now. So it covers the police,fire service bin collections etc.So how does a family use more than a millionaire? sod the millionaires....how is it fair that a couple struggling to make ends meet, have to pay the same as a group of professionals sharing a 3 bed flat up stairs....their combined disposable income dwarfs that of their neighbours, consume far more of the local services...yet pay exactly the same because their flat falls into the same council tax band..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 2 April, 2011 Share Posted 2 April, 2011 sod the millionaires....how is it fair that a couple struggling to make ends meet, have to pay the same as a group of professionals sharing a 3 bed flat up stairs....their combined disposable income dwarfs that of their neighbours, consume far more of the local services...yet pay exactly the same because their flat falls into the same council tax band..... There will always be exceptions, 6 professionals living in the same flat is a bit of a weird arrangement. It will only be a matter of time before they will all be in places of their own and the richer ones will have the better houses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 2 April, 2011 Share Posted 2 April, 2011 There will always be exceptions, 6 professionals living in the same flat is a bit of a weird arrangement. It will only be a matter of time before they will all be in places of their own and the richer ones will have the better houses. what about now..how is that fair right now...friends sharing is not uncommon..more so now cost of living has risen a tad.....how on earth in the quest of fair society is that right...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 2 April, 2011 Share Posted 2 April, 2011 There will always be exceptions, 6 professionals living in the same flat is a bit of a weird arrangement. It will only be a matter of time before they will all be in places of their own and the richer ones will have the better houses. Errrr, have you never seen "This Life"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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