(not THE) Kevin Moore Posted 1 April, 2011 Posted 1 April, 2011 I know it's an unpopular POV, but I always quite liked Jermaine Wright. Every squad (especially a squad where money is tight) needs a utility player and he was it for us. He always put in a shift and whilst he wasn't the greatest player around, certainly wasn't as bad as so many on here think. Another case in point is Paul Telfer. A player in the same mould, fulfilling the same role, and equally despised. I also think that the SaintsWeb fanbase would list any of our holding CM's - starting with Oakley and continuing to this day. This isn't because they've been bad, just that the role is rarely eye catching QED they're ****. Totally agree on both Wright and Telfer, Telfs was a brilliant signing, him and Willo on free's and instantly the most porous defence in the leak looked much more robust and gave WGS a solid platform on which to build. It never ceases to amaze me that the likes of Oakley/Wright/Telfer/Idiakez/Pele (Only in midfield, I totally agree that he was not a CB) get totally slated while the likes of Viafara/Prutton get standing ovations and adulation... just because they 'looked' like they were doing something.
Lighthouse Posted 1 April, 2011 Posted 1 April, 2011 Totally agree on both Wright and Telfer, Telfs was a brilliant signing, him and Willo on free's and instantly the most porous defence in the leak looked much more robust and gave WGS a solid platform on which to build. It never ceases to amaze me that the likes of Oakley/Wright/Telfer/Idiakez/Pele (Only in midfield, I totally agree that he was not a CB) get totally slated while the likes of Viafara/Prutton get standing ovations and adulation... just because they 'looked' like they were doing something. Oakley was class, not sure why he got slated really. He just needed an energetic player next to him doing the work. Wright was crap. Being played in a variety of possitions doesn't make you a utility player. I saw him play terribly at LB, RB, CM and RM on several occasions. Apparently he even played LM once, but I didn't see that. Telfer was a decent right sided player to have in the squad. Idiakez was old and knackered. At the time it looked like a good deal, but clearly the guy was crocked and never really did it on the few occasions he was fit. Pele was a quality holding player. Him and Guthrie were probably the best CM pairing we had under Burley. Viafara was good at running at defences and causing panic, but ultimately he was too much of a liability with his (lack of) passing. Prutton I thought was better than JV.
Alain Perrin Posted 1 April, 2011 Posted 1 April, 2011 Oakley was class, not sure why he got slated really. He just needed an energetic player next to him doing the work. Wright was crap. Being played in a variety of possitions doesn't make you a utility player. I saw him play terribly at LB, RB, CM and RM on several occasions. Apparently he even played LM once, but I didn't see that. Telfer was a decent right sided player to have in the squad. Idiakez was old and knackered. At the time it looked like a good deal, but clearly the guy was crocked and never really did it on the few occasions he was fit. Pele was a quality holding player. Him and Guthrie were probably the best CM pairing we had under Burley. Viafara was good at running at defences and causing panic, but ultimately he was too much of a liability with his (lack of) passing. Prutton I thought was better than JV. Prutton's best move was never on the pitch, it was clapping the fans at the end of the game. Get the knuckle draggers onside and you'll be a hero regardless of ability (just ask Ostlund) Great goal for Swindon the other day against Brighton - god awful haircut though.
St Marco Posted 1 April, 2011 Posted 1 April, 2011 He was one of them for sure. He had some good games but for the most of it just really ****ed me off tbh.
Turkish Posted 1 April, 2011 Posted 1 April, 2011 Totally agree on both Wright and Telfer, Telfs was a brilliant signing, him and Willo on free's and instantly the most porous defence in the leak looked much more robust and gave WGS a solid platform on which to build. It never ceases to amaze me that the likes of Oakley/Wright/Telfer/Idiakez/Pele (Only in midfield, I totally agree that he was not a CB) get totally slated while the likes of Viafara/Prutton get standing ovations and adulation... just because they 'looked' like they were doing something. Agree with this although i dont agree with Wright, IMO he was an awful player. Telfer through was a great signing for nothing i think, gave us balance and was what Eric Cantona would call a water carrier. A good solid pro who did all the dirty work which goes unnoticed. Oakley was a quiality player, a really good intellegent footballer.
Thedelldays Posted 1 April, 2011 Posted 1 April, 2011 I remember posting at the time of burley that you could count on one hand the very good games wright had....his 9/10 games were very average
Turkish Posted 1 April, 2011 Posted 1 April, 2011 I remember posting at the time of burley that you could count on one hand the very good games wright had....his 9/10 games were very average To be honest you could probably count them on one finger.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 1 April, 2011 Posted 1 April, 2011 Best played well in the play-offs. Apart from scoring an own goal, missing a penalty and going for goal in extra time when he could have squared it.
St_Tel49 Posted 1 April, 2011 Posted 1 April, 2011 I know it's an unpopular POV, but I always quite liked Jermaine Wright. Every squad (especially a squad where money is tight) needs a utility player and he was it for us. He always put in a shift and whilst he wasn't the greatest player around, certainly wasn't as bad as so many on here think. Another case in point is Paul Telfer. A player in the same mould, fulfilling the same role, and equally despised. I also think that the SaintsWeb fanbase would list any of our holding CM's - starting with Oakley and continuing to this day. This isn't because they've been bad, just that the role is rarely eye catching QED they're ****. This
JackFrost Posted 1 April, 2011 Posted 1 April, 2011 Apart from scoring an own goal' date=' missing a penalty and going for goal in extra time when he could have squared it.[/quote'] and being offside so many times it must have gone into double figures, thus stopping a lot of our promising build up play dead in its tracks
JackFrost Posted 1 April, 2011 Posted 1 April, 2011 (edited) Ostlund, utter ****e. Another one who lacked talent but couldn't be faulted for his work rate or commitment He was also as strong as an ox, I will never forget John Hartson karate kicking him in the chest and him getting up as if nothing had happened, or when I saw him play in a reserve game a youngster tried to shoulder barge him off the ball and Ostlund sent him flying 6 feet through the air and on to his back. Edited 1 April, 2011 by JackFrost
sebastian firefly Posted 1 April, 2011 Posted 1 April, 2011 its threads like this that keep my therapist rich and why ive got to tell all the little fireflys they cant go on holiday this year
sebastian firefly Posted 1 April, 2011 Posted 1 April, 2011 Steve Baker. Not because I didn't rate him or like, just because I felt so sorry for him due to the stick he got after that Skate game. nope hes a **** and deserves all he gets i blame him entirley
david in sweden Posted 1 April, 2011 Posted 1 April, 2011 McCann, an utter waste of space and we paid over a million for him! A million ..that's chicken feed..do you remember Agustin Delgado ?
sebastian firefly Posted 1 April, 2011 Posted 1 April, 2011 A million ..that's chicken feed..do you remember Agustin Delgado ? in his defence the one game he did contribute he scored with his tin man and got a penalty by outpaceing sol but i do take your point he was a waste of cleba chala imants bidelis cosimo sarli money well spent
scotty Posted 1 April, 2011 Posted 1 April, 2011 I was gutted to see ali dia leave. How did that happen??
Cabrone Posted 1 April, 2011 Posted 1 April, 2011 Hughes, Speedie, Groves, Lee, Grobelaar, Dixon, Hurst................. and any other old mercenary that came here to loot the place rather than play.
dune Posted 1 April, 2011 Posted 1 April, 2011 Dean Richards. The best business I can remember us doing.
Dalek2003 Posted 1 April, 2011 Posted 1 April, 2011 Ian Branfoot was not as bad as many people claim, he kept us in the top league. The manager i was most glad to see was that useless wurzel head ...Sturrock. Premier league manager ?, your having a laff !!
Huffton Posted 1 April, 2011 Posted 1 April, 2011 I'll get slated for this, but I'll say Kevin Phillips, obviously not because of the way he played for us, but the manner in which he left, asking to go the day after we were relegated. My only regret is the poisonous little c unt didn't get his legs broken the following season. Oh, and Crouch can be included in that too
JackFrost Posted 1 April, 2011 Posted 1 April, 2011 I must say I was sad to see Tahar El Khalej leave, I will forever remember that tackle when he nearly chopped Kieron Dyer in two
Ewell Posted 1 April, 2011 Posted 1 April, 2011 Mikail Nillson Calum Davenport Andreas Jaccobson Olivier Bernard. The useless back 4 that took us down! :-(
david in sweden Posted 2 April, 2011 Posted 2 April, 2011 I was gutted to see ali dia leave. How did that happen?? didn't even see him play ..was out at the toilet and getting a cup of tea at the time ....!
david in sweden Posted 2 April, 2011 Posted 2 April, 2011 I'll get slated for this, but I'll say Kevin Phillips, obviously not because of the way he played for us, but the manner in which he left, asking to go the day after we were relegated. My only regret is the poisonous little c unt didn't get his legs broken the following season. Oh, and Crouch can be included in that too In their defence...I think Phillips was reluctant to come in the first place and clearly wanted to keep his career on top. You see now that 4 years later he's still coming off the bench (at Brum?) ..and scoring in stoppage time. Might not have liked him too much at the time, but a good man to have in the team. Crouch's career was going nowhere, until he came to us. When Harry finally used him and talked him into an England shirt inside six months. I rate him as a very useful Premiership no.9 with good ball skills, whereas many people only see him as a clumsy beanpole. When Harry gets to manage England...he'll have Crouch's name as first on the team sheet..together with all the other Spurs "Anglo's ". I don't blame either of them for NOT wanting to play in the CCC. Would you expect either of them to still be with us in L1?.
david in sweden Posted 2 April, 2011 Posted 2 April, 2011 Dean Richards. The best business I can remember us doing. Amen to that one !
david in sweden Posted 2 April, 2011 Posted 2 April, 2011 (edited) Hughes, Speedie, Groves, Lee, Grobelaar, Dixon, Hurst................. and any other old mercenary that came here to loot the place rather than play. agree with all those ..except maybe Hirst . He was a class " toughie-type " CF. Was unlucky to damage his leg when training pre-season 98/99 ...and never recovered proper fitness. 1997-98 was a tough season, but Hirst, Ostenstad, Kevin Davies ... and MLT all managed around 10 goals each. Quite an accomplishment when you consider we spent most of the season in the bottom half of the table. Edited 2 April, 2011 by david in sweden
paulwantsapint Posted 2 April, 2011 Posted 2 April, 2011 Was sort of glad when Bale & Walcott left as wrongly thought that saints could get great money to rebuild with & get on with promotion without media spotlight Didn't realise the money would be wasted & spotlight would burn brightly over off the pitch action
ecuk268 Posted 2 April, 2011 Posted 2 April, 2011 Ian Branfoot was not as bad as many people claim, he kept us in the top league. The manager i was most glad to see was that useless wurzel head ...Sturrock. Premier league manager ?, your having a laff !! I didn't want Chris Nicholl to go but the rumour was that he was going to be replaced by Harry Redknapp (who was doing well at Bournemouth) with Jimmy Case as player/assistant manager. Branfoot arrived, released Case (you don't play my style of football), sold Alan Shearer, Barry Horne, Tim Flowers and bought a series of deadbeats (Ken Monkou excluded) and played some awful football (we used to take bets on what time Hurlock would get his yellow card). As for players, Ripley - made it plain it didn't want to be here, Lee Todd - absolutely useless, and Dixon - good player in his day but well past his sell-by date.
suewhistle Posted 2 April, 2011 Posted 2 April, 2011 Pretty much every Branfoot signing But the biggest relief was him leaving...
Deppo Posted 2 April, 2011 Posted 2 April, 2011 I was really relieved when Kevin Phillips left as I could concentrate on my career again and get back to what I'm really good at: selling mobile phones.
Deppo Posted 2 April, 2011 Posted 2 April, 2011 I remember posting at the time of burley that you could count on one hand the very good games wright had....his 9/10 games were very average To be honest you could probably count them on one finger. He's from Plymouth, so you're both right.
norwaysaint Posted 2 April, 2011 Posted 2 April, 2011 I know it sounds wrong in hindsight, but at the time I was delighted to get rid of Kevin Davies (2nd time), as most people seemed to be. His wages were enormous, probably the highest in the squad (20k was mentioned) and, when picked, he just used to stroll around the pitch looking disinterested and unfit. It was looking like we'd be stuck with a useless player on high wages, when Big Sam unexpectedly took him to Bolton. Couldn't believe anyone would want him at the time. Some people may claim it was a loss for us, but that's forgetting how poor he was for us then. I can't remember being happier to see a player move on. Seems to have worked out ok for him and them in the end though.
Deppo Posted 2 April, 2011 Posted 2 April, 2011 I know it sounds wrong in hindsight, but at the time I was delighted to get rid of Kevin Davies (2nd time), as most people seemed to be. His wages were enormous, probably the highest in the squad (20k was mentioned) and, when picked, he just used to stroll around the pitch looking disinterested and unfit. It was looking like we'd be stuck with a useless player on high wages, when Big Sam unexpectedly took him to Bolton. Couldn't believe anyone would want him at the time. Some people may claim it was a loss for us, but that's forgetting how poor he was for us then. I can't remember being happier to see a player move on. Seems to have worked out ok for him and them in the end though. It's Kelvin
thesaint sfc Posted 2 April, 2011 Posted 2 April, 2011 I would go as far to say he is the worst player I've ever seen play at saints (bar Jakobsson obviously) Our first leg against Derby in the play offs he crossed the ball 5 times. 5 times the ball went into the crowd.
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