Thedelldays Posted 26 March, 2011 Posted 26 March, 2011 Surely? We only need 26 points max to go up 2nd..!!! That is if Huddersfield win every single one of their remaining games, which will not happen. The unstoppable Peterborough are wobbling... We got a decent away point and the others are throwing points away every week Surely we are going to do it??
dune Posted 26 March, 2011 Posted 26 March, 2011 There'll be quite a few twists and turns along the way, but we've always got the play-offs as a back up and I don't think it's being presumptious to say we've got that in the bag. Keep the faith whatever happens.
saints_is_the_south Posted 26 March, 2011 Posted 26 March, 2011 I think so too. Did the predictor thing earlier, had us going up in 2nd by a clear 4 points. The big weekend to pull away will be when we go to Leyton Orient on 9th April whilst Pboro and Huddersfield play eachother. One or both of them are certain to drop points, so a win in east London would be a big moment in the promotion race.
alpine_saint Posted 26 March, 2011 Posted 26 March, 2011 Must admit Posh's result last night was unexpected. It does seem as each round of games goes by, the average points-per-game we need is dropping.
saints-cris Posted 26 March, 2011 Posted 26 March, 2011 Once we get through this tough-ish spell we have a couple of easier games. I reckon 20-22 points should see us through. It really is all on us. Posh wont keep scoring bucketloads im sure
Littlelat17 Posted 26 March, 2011 Posted 26 March, 2011 Once we get through this tough-ish spell we have a couple of easier games. I reckon 20-22 points should see us through. It really is all on us. Posh wont keep scoring bucketloads im sure I looked at the likely points needed this morning and reckon 18-20 points more should do it. So 6 wins and a couple of draws gives us leeway of 2 or 3 defeats..
hypochondriac Posted 26 March, 2011 Posted 26 March, 2011 There'll be quite a few twists and turns along the way, but we've always got the play-offs as a back up and I don't think it's being presumptious to say we've got that in the bag. Keep the faith whatever happens. Speak for yourself!
sfc4prem Posted 26 March, 2011 Posted 26 March, 2011 I reaaaaally hope we can do this. It would be quality if we could pull off an unexpected win against Brighton, as well as a win against the O's (those are the two games I see us losing in). I reckon we can do it, whether we will is down to the footballing gods.
sainter28 Posted 26 March, 2011 Posted 26 March, 2011 I think 21 with our superior goal difference will do it
Thedelldays Posted 26 March, 2011 Author Posted 26 March, 2011 I really think that come the final whistle of the Plymouth game we will be up, or put the last game of the season in our own hands..
Lighthouse Posted 26 March, 2011 Posted 26 March, 2011 I tried doing the predictor, but it just doesn't work I'm too pessimistic. I started off with the best of intentions and got as far as The Dons game before coming over all paranoid. That's a draw, Orient away is a draw, so is Plymouth, we'll lose at Brighton. Meanwhile Udders and Posh will win all their remaining fixtures, even when they play each other. In reality I think we're definitely in the driving seat. The next two games against playoff contenders are critical. If we can win them, it will so much easier, what with Posh, Bompey and Udders all playing each other in a couple of games.
ludgershallsaint Posted 26 March, 2011 Posted 26 March, 2011 If Huddersfield don't win tomorrow I reckon 85 with the best goal difference will be enough.
saint_jas Posted 26 March, 2011 Posted 26 March, 2011 I really think that come the final whistle of the Plymouth game we will be up, or put the last game of the season in our own hands.. Would love it if that was the day we get promoted !!!
View From The Top Posted 26 March, 2011 Posted 26 March, 2011 We'll go up at Plymouth. I'm convinced of it.
rick1976.4.38 Posted 26 March, 2011 Posted 26 March, 2011 promotion at plymouth would be aewsome then back to sms on the saturday against walall and we can al have a party,coys.wifm
stthrobber Posted 27 March, 2011 Posted 27 March, 2011 If we can stay injury free and keep our creative players fit, then if you look at the table we are in a very strong position. However, there will be a lot of twists and turns along the way. Brighton have proved to be a very strong and consistent team throughout the season and we won't catch them. The play offs are a lottery and teams bigger than us have gone in as strong favourites and not even got to the final. Therefore NA must keep the boys focused and not allow complacency to set in. I do think "ours to lose" is a bit arrogant. "Ours to win" is more appropriate imo
Saint_Mabes Posted 27 March, 2011 Posted 27 March, 2011 Just done the predictor and it looked like this... Brignton 98pts Southampton 89pts P'boro 88pts B'mouth 81pts Huddersfield 81pts Mk Dons 75pts so this is pretty much FACT, I can sleep easy!
Badger Posted 27 March, 2011 Posted 27 March, 2011 I wish I had some of your confidence. I'd agree its in our own hands, whether termed as "ours to lose" or "ours to win". Saints arecertainly capable of doing it, but I'm concerned by our tendency to falter too often. I'm unable to pinpoint it but we seem to lack a mental toughness at times,and a cutting edge to score the all important first goal. Fitzhugh made a point in a post a week or so ago,that we lacked "conviction", that is probably a reasonable summing up as any, whether that is due to self-belief, burden of expectation or motivation,I don't know. With our squad we should be able to do it,but unlike Brighton we have not been able to relentlessly come away with 3 points time after time. We will do it, it's only drama queens, attention seekers, trolls and the relentless combination of all three from Austria that doubt it. It's funny that while leyton had games in hand it was assumed they'd win them all. At the same time it was assumed we wouldn't. They were in good form and it was set to continue. We were in good form and about to mess it up. Let's try to show an ounce of sense in the remaining games. We will lose again, we'll dominate and draw again, but we'll end up second, I'm sure of that. Interesting point about the games in hand as we are obviously seeing them as our trump cards. However when we have had the games where we might have stolen an advantage on our rivals we have not. ie Walsall away,Charlton away. One point from that potential six does not inspire me to believe we are quite as good as many on here and Adkins wish to believe.
Thedelldays Posted 27 March, 2011 Author Posted 27 March, 2011 Falter too often, lack mental toughness? You do realise we are one of the leagues in form teams don't you have have pretty much matches Brighton since Adkins has been here??
Badger Posted 27 March, 2011 Posted 27 March, 2011 Falter too often, lack mental toughness? You do realise we are one of the leagues in form teams don't you have have pretty much matches Brighton since Adkins has been here?? Good, we'll be alright then. I really hope you are proven correct in having absolute confidence in the team delivering promotion. I doubt Brighton however would have dropped the 5 points from the Walsall and Charlton fixtures that we have.
corsacar saint Posted 27 March, 2011 Posted 27 March, 2011 I agree totally with Badgers post,we should be good enough for 2nd,but the mental toughness of the team,is the major concern for me as well.[i pray that I am totally wrong].
hypochondriac Posted 27 March, 2011 Posted 27 March, 2011 Falter too often, lack mental toughness? You do realise we are one of the leagues in form teams don't you have have pretty much matches Brighton since Adkins has been here?? It is not just results, but the manner of our performances which lead many to this conclusion.
Thedelldays Posted 27 March, 2011 Author Posted 27 March, 2011 It is not just results, but the manner of our performances which lead many to this conclusion. People expect champagne football or us to destroy teams most weeks. In any league, that does not happen
Thedelldays Posted 27 March, 2011 Author Posted 27 March, 2011 Good, we'll be alright then. I really hope you are proven correct in having absolute confidence in the team delivering promotion. I doubt Brighton however would have dropped the 5 points from the Walsall and Charlton fixtures that we have. But they lost at Bournemouth??
hypochondriac Posted 27 March, 2011 Posted 27 March, 2011 People expect champagne football or us to destroy teams most weeks. In any league, that does not happen Maybe but that was not what I was talking about. I don't expect champagne football and I accept that we will have bad games, but I do expect in general a level of performance which is better than what we have seen this season (considering the players we have in relation to everyone else.)
hypochondriac Posted 27 March, 2011 Posted 27 March, 2011 But they lost at Bournemouth?? Who have an excellent home record and at the time were one of the form teams in the league. They weren't a team right down the bottom or on a horrendous run of form.
Thedelldays Posted 27 March, 2011 Author Posted 27 March, 2011 Who have an excellent home record and at the time were one of the form teams in the league. They weren't a team right down the bottom or on a horrendous run of form. I bet without even looking. Brighton have dropped points or have even lost to teams we have beaten. It was our start to the season that has messed us up for top spot, nit away to charlton
Thedelldays Posted 27 March, 2011 Author Posted 27 March, 2011 Maybe but that was not what I was talking about. I don't expect champagne football and I accept that we will have bad games, but I do expect in general a level of performance which is better than what we have seen this season (considering the players we have in relation to everyone else.) Despite being in Te driving seat for auto promotion? This season is very much like last in terms of performances.
hypochondriac Posted 27 March, 2011 Posted 27 March, 2011 I bet without even looking. Brighton have dropped points or have even lost to teams we have beaten. It was our start to the season that has messed us up for top spot, nit away to charlton You can't just pick a set of results which suits your argument. What has messed us up for top spot is dropped points, both at the start of the season and at places like Walsall away. To my knowledge, Brighton haven't lost to a team near the bottom except for Hartlepool who have a really good home record. They just have not had a few really disappointing results and performances against teams near the bottom with crap home records and that is why they will be champions.
SNSUN Posted 27 March, 2011 Posted 27 March, 2011 1-1 against Charlton would've been a good result on Boxing Day, and whilst Charlton's form has been iffy I still think a point the other day was a good result. I think it'll be a tight finish to the season, a one point job, and we can look back on that point and see it in a positive light. My mind is drawn to the narrow escape we had from relegation in the CCC in 2008. West Brom aced that league, and yet we somehow picked up a point in the penultimate game thanks to Adam's strike which laid the platform for our last day escape. 10 games to go is still too far out to decide how we'll finish. In five games time, we'll have a much clearer picture.
Johnny Shearer Posted 27 March, 2011 Posted 27 March, 2011 I'm not taking anything for granted. So its a game by game basis for me. All I know is that the last ten games are gonna do my head in either way. Just want to get out of this league now.
hypochondriac Posted 27 March, 2011 Posted 27 March, 2011 Despite being in Te driving seat for auto promotion? This season is very much like last in terms of performances. Try and understand what I am saying. I am extremely pleased with recent results. I wasn't too bothered about the Charlton result because I expected it. I do not expect champagne football, but regardless of results, with the squad we have and the resources at our disposal, I expected a better level of performance this year than we have had, regardless of whether we are in the driving seat for second or not. I don't see how last season is in any way relevant to this discussion.
Fan The Flames Posted 27 March, 2011 Posted 27 March, 2011 The unstoppable Peterborough are wobbling... We got a decent away point and the others are throwing points away every week So our away draw against Charlton was a decent result whilst Peterborough's away draw against higher in the form table Bristol Rovers is throwing points away, even though they went down to ten men and we played like we had nine. What a load of ******** these constant streams of' I'm more positive than you' threads are.
Thedelldays Posted 27 March, 2011 Author Posted 27 March, 2011 So our away draw against Charlton was a decent result whilst Peterborough's away draw against higher in the form table Bristol Rovers is throwing points away, even though they went down to ten men and we played like we had nine. What a load of ******** these constant streams of' I'm more positive than you' threads are. No I was on about the posh game before that...
hypochondriac Posted 27 March, 2011 Posted 27 March, 2011 No I was on about the posh game before that... No disgrace losing to a team in cracking form like MK Dons.
NickG Posted 27 March, 2011 Posted 27 March, 2011 I wasn't that impressed with posh against MK. Lots of running around but lacked quality
SaintRichmond Posted 27 March, 2011 Posted 27 March, 2011 There'll be quite a few twists and turns along the way, but we've always got the play-offs as a back up and I don't think it's being presumptious to say we've got that in the bag.Keep the faith whatever happens. I do NOTHING is guarenteed, and I still would fear Peterboro in the Play Offs Due to injury's, we DO have weaknesses, despite all the Rose Coloured Glasses brigade, and trying to plug the gaps with "Loanees" may still prove to be our Achilles heel IMHO P
Thedelldays Posted 27 March, 2011 Author Posted 27 March, 2011 Isn't n'guessen the cover we were after saintrichmond?
S-Clarke Posted 27 March, 2011 Posted 27 March, 2011 Due to injury's, we DO have weaknesses, despite all the Rose Coloured Glasses brigade, and trying to plug the gaps with "Loanees" may still prove to be our Achilles heel IMHO P What the hell are we supposed to do? Buy Messi just incase Lallana gets injured? Buy Aaron lennon to cover Oxo? If Adam and Chambo get injured we will be weaker - you cannot replace those players with anyone close to the same level who would be happy to sit on the bench and wait for their chance. It's unlucky they've been injured and we've got to do our best to cope with it if they're out for a couple of games.
hypochondriac Posted 27 March, 2011 Posted 27 March, 2011 What the hell are we supposed to do? Buy Messi just incase Lallana gets injured? Buy Aaron lennon to cover Oxo? If Adam and Chambo get injured we will be weaker - you cannot replace those players with anyone close to the same level who would be happy to sit on the bench and wait for their chance. It's unlucky they've been injured and we've got to do our best to cope with it if they're out for a couple of games. Personally I would like us to go for as higher quality player as we can get. It was a tactic we used well when we got in Chaplow who helped to push the other two for a starting place and overall the standard of midfield improved. There was no talk then of people sitting on the bench, simply that Schneiderlin and hammond had to up their game or risk losing their place.
Faz Posted 27 March, 2011 Posted 27 March, 2011 Personally I would like us to go for as higher quality player as we can get. It was a tactic we used well when we got in Chaplow who helped to push the other two for a starting place and overall the standard of midfield improved. There was no talk then of people sitting on the bench, simply that Schneiderlin and hammond had to up their game or risk losing their place. Where is this bottomless pit of money, or this limitless pool of quality players willing to drop to L1??
hypochondriac Posted 27 March, 2011 Posted 27 March, 2011 (edited) Where is this bottomless pit of money, or this limitless pool of quality players willing to drop to L1?? Well we managed it with Chaplow. We got in quality with Fonte, Lambert, Barnard etc and Waigo last year so clearly it is possible. Edited 27 March, 2011 by hypochondriac
Thedelldays Posted 27 March, 2011 Author Posted 27 March, 2011 Well we managed it with Chaplow. We got in quality with Fonte, Lambert, Barnard etc and Waigo last year so clearly it is possible. As you can see with puncheon. These players you speak of a very happy to sit on Te bench in division 3
Matthew Le God Posted 27 March, 2011 Posted 27 March, 2011 Well we managed it with Chaplow. We got in quality with Fonte, Lambert, Barnard etc. All of which are regular starters. Any other players coming in mean players on high wages not getting games, thus reluctant to sign.
hypochondriac Posted 27 March, 2011 Posted 27 March, 2011 As you can see with puncheon. These players you speak of a very happy to sit on Te bench in division 3 What about Waigo last year?
hypochondriac Posted 27 March, 2011 Posted 27 March, 2011 All of which are regular starters. Any other players coming in mean players on high wages not getting games, thus reluctant to sign. What about Schneiderlin, Chaplow and Hammond? Are they all regular starters?
Badger Posted 27 March, 2011 Posted 27 March, 2011 I bet without even looking. Brighton have dropped points or have even lost to teams we have beaten. It was our start to the season that has messed us up for top spot, nit away to charlton Brighton probably have dropped points along the way but that has easily been absorbed into their points tally given their constant habit of 3 points. We are no longer competing for top spot but finishing second;the Charlton result has certainly impacted on that and left us with ground to make up still.
Fan The Flames Posted 27 March, 2011 Posted 27 March, 2011 What the hell are we supposed to do? Buy Messi just incase Lallana gets injured? Buy Aaron lennon to cover Oxo? If Adam and Chambo get injured we will be weaker - you cannot replace those players with anyone close to the same level who would be happy to sit on the bench and wait for their chance. It's unlucky they've been injured and we've got to do our best to cope with it if they're out for a couple of games. This is a ridiculous argument, follow the logic and no club would have any one on the bench. Surely there are players out there that are good enough that want to be apart of our squad with the understanding that they might not be part of the starting 11. I don't know the RCSW seem to have a problem with this.
Thedelldays Posted 27 March, 2011 Author Posted 27 March, 2011 What about Waigo last year? and where is he now..?
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