Draino76 Posted 24 March, 2011 Posted 24 March, 2011 It looks as if we are going up; that much is obvious. Brighton may be a tinpot club but you have to hand it to them; it looks as if they will fluke the league this year after many decades of trying. The most likely outcome is that we will be promoted in 2nd place, but as we know the only other teams that would be in the playoffs we have smashed to bits anyway! Would you want another guaranteed screamer of a winning day at Wembley Playoff final or to finish second?
S-Clarke Posted 24 March, 2011 Posted 24 March, 2011 2nd please - so i can put my feet up and enjoy watching other fans stress over 1 game which decides an entire season! Nerve racking things....and it's at Old Trafford too, so no day out at wembley.
Colinjb Posted 24 March, 2011 Posted 24 March, 2011 Automatic. Automatic Automatic Automatic. Automatic. For the last time, Automatic. F**k the play-offs, I want to be able to relax this summer.
westofshannonsaint Posted 24 March, 2011 Posted 24 March, 2011 in the playoffs nothing is guaranteed.
saint_jas Posted 24 March, 2011 Posted 24 March, 2011 We will get automatic. This thread may have opened a can of worms, wait for Alpine to get on....
doddisalegend Posted 24 March, 2011 Posted 24 March, 2011 It looks as if we are going up; that much is obvious. Brighton may be a tinpot club but you have to hand it to them; it looks as if they will fluke the league this year after many decades of trying. The most likely outcome is that we will be promoted in 2nd place, but as we know the only other teams that would be in the playoffs we have smashed to bits anyway! Would you want another guaranteed screamer of a winning day at Wembley Playoff final or to finish second? Really?
Lighthouse Posted 24 March, 2011 Posted 24 March, 2011 I vote we get relelgated, then we can finish 3rd in League 2 and still get automatic promotion.
SuperMikey Posted 24 March, 2011 Posted 24 March, 2011 2nd please, no f*cking about in the play-offs! However, as long as we go up i'll be happy. I'd actually quite like another season in L1 but I know what it'll do to the club and the team...
Colinjb Posted 24 March, 2011 Posted 24 March, 2011 (edited) I'd actually quite like another season in L1 but I know what it'll do to the club and the team... Mate.... Seriously.... Check your temperature. Edited 25 March, 2011 by Colinjb
S-Clarke Posted 24 March, 2011 Posted 24 March, 2011 I'd actually quite like another season in L1 but I know what it'll do to the club and the team... I wouldn't! Games against Exeter, Chesterfield, Rochdale and Yeovil are boring and the away games are horrendous. I want to see us compete at places like Leicester, Cardiff, Swansea etc. onwards and upwards...
saint_jas Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 2nd please, no f*cking about in the play-offs! However, as long as we go up i'll be happy. I'd actually quite like another season in L1 but I know what it'll do to the club and the team... No way, get out of this league pronto.
aintforever Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 only other teams that would be in the playoffs we have smashed to bits anyway! Think you are forgetting that Huddersfield and MK Dons have both beaten us this season, plus we couldn't beat Orient at home. We would be favorites, but it would still very much be a 1 in 4 chance lottery.
SuperMikey Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 I love seeing Saints as a successful club, and that's what I want for us, no question. That obviously involves competing at the top level, and that's firmly what I believe we'll be doing in a few years time. However, I just find the Premiership and Championship to be a bit bland. Give me a Huish Park over a Ricoh Arena any day of the week.
Scudamore Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 Peterborough getting 10 points deducted for financial irregularities and going up by default...
Scudamore Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 Either that or settling for the play-offs whilst resting Chamberlain and Lallana ready for them to win us the play-offs easily cos it's not a lottery at all...
paulwantsapint Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 Want to go after winning all of our remaining games L1 is going to be very northan next season looking at l2 promotion chasers l1 both top & bottom teams & c relegation teams
stinhk Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 It looks as if we are going up; that much is obvious. Brighton may be a tinpot club but you have to hand it to them; it looks as if they will fluke the league this year after many decades of trying. The most likely outcome is that we will be promoted in 2nd place, but as we know the only other teams that would be in the playoffs we have smashed to bits anyway! Would you want another guaranteed screamer of a winning day at Wembley Playoff final or to finish second? Where's the thrill if we were guaranteed to win the playoff final? In that case might as well just celebrate now
Doctoroncall Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 I don't see how you can say Brighton, top since September, have fluked the league!
goneawol Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 Automatic, gives more time to prepare for next season.
alpine_saint Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 Automatic. Automatic Automatic Automatic. Automatic. For the last time, Automatic. F**k the play-offs, I want to be able to relax this summer. I agree, though in fairness the playoffs are right after the end of the regular season, so it aint going to affect your summer either way.
JustMike Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 I agree, though in fairness the playoffs are right after the end of the regular season, so it aint going to affect your summer either way. it would if we lost in the final
saint lard Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 It looks as if we are going up; that much is obvious. Brighton may be a tinpot club but you have to hand it to them; it looks as if they will fluke the league this year after many decades of trying. The most likely outcome is that we will be promoted in 2nd place, but as we know the only other teams that would be in the playoffs we have smashed to bits anyway! Would you want another guaranteed screamer of a winning day at Wembley Playoff final or to finish second? Mmm,are you sure? Automatic promotion would be wonderful. Playoffs would be the minimum requirement this season i would have thought.
Professor Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 It looks as if we are going up; that much is obvious. Brighton may be a tinpot club but you have to hand it to them; it looks as if they will fluke the league this year after many decades of trying. The most likely outcome is that we will be promoted in 2nd place, but as we know the only other teams that would be in the playoffs we have smashed to bits anyway! Would you want another guaranteed screamer of a winning day at Wembley Playoff final or to finish second? Brighton are far from being a 'tinpot' club. They have a millionaire backing them (Tony Bloom), have a new state of the art stadium that will open in time for their first game in the Championship in August, and they have sponsorship from American Express, which sounds a little more impressive than our new shirt sponsors, who none of us had ever heard of. As for 'fluking' the league, they are unbeaten at home and are 10 points ahead of Saints. In three games since we were relegated we've failed to beat them and they won 3-1 at the SMS last season. In Poyet they also have a respected manager with his own football legacy at the highest levels. As for us going up via a guaranteed win in the Playoffs, there is no such thing. In the play-offs no club is guaranteed getting to the final, let alone winning it. In the play-offs anything can happen with a 3-1 chance against getting promoted. We've just had an excellent run of 4 wins and that is the way to get promoted. Maybe if it hadn't been for the injuries to arguably our best two players, we would have won against Charlton but the fact remains that it was one of our games in hand and we got 1 point from it, not 3. I remain hopeful of promotion, but far from confident, whereas Brighton could lose to us, Colchester and Huddersfield and still go up.
alpine_saint Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 it would if we lost in the final We could screw up the next 9 games leaving us needing a certain combination of results on the last day which then dont materialise. I dont see your point.
alpine_saint Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 Brighton are far from being a 'tinpot' club. They have a millionaire backing them (Tony Bloom), have a new state of the art stadium that will open in time for their first game in the Championship in August, and they have sponsorship from American Express, which sounds a little more impressive than our new shirt sponsors, who none of us had ever heard of. As for 'fluking' the league, they are unbeaten at home and are 10 points ahead of Saints. In three games since we were relegated we've failed to beat them and they won 3-1 at the SMS last season. In Poyet they also have a respected manager with his own football legacy at the highest levels. As for us going up via a guaranteed win in the Playoffs, there is no such thing. In the play-offs no club is guaranteed getting to the final, let alone winning it. In the play-offs anything can happen with a 3-1 chance against getting promoted. We've just had an excellent run of 4 wins and that is the way to get promoted. Maybe if it hadn't been for the injuries to arguably our best two players, we would have won against Charlton but the fact remains that it was one of our games in hand and we got 1 point from it, not 3. I remain hopeful of promotion, but far from confident, whereas Brighton could lose to us, Colchester and Huddersfield and still go up. Maybe it is impossible to guarantee going up via playoffs, but if we were to play Bournemouth over 2 legs and then Huddersfield in the final, what would you be thinking about our chances ?
Turkish Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 Maybe it is impossible to guarantee going up via playoffs, but if we were to play Bournemouth over 2 legs and then Huddersfield in the final, what would you be thinking about our chances ? You'd fancy us over two games against anyone in this league, however how often does the team that finish 5th or 6th go up via play offs? And it would be sods law that we beat Bournemouth 3 times comfortably during the season then they fluke a win over us in the play offs.
Matthew Le God Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 (edited) Last League Game - 7th May Play off final - 29th May I would rather Saints used those 3 weeks to prepare for the Championship, signings etc, rather than being unsure which League they were in. A playoff campaign may mean Saints miss out of players. Edited 25 March, 2011 by Matthew Le God
rolosfc Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 Automatic, absolutely no contest. Especially as the team that finish third normally gas it and I wouldn't be surprised if we do that!
alpine_saint Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 Last League Game - 9th May Play off final - 29th May I would rather Saints used those 20 days to prepare for the Championship, signings etc, rather than being unsure which League they were in. A playoff campaign may mean Saints miss out of players. Yeah, but they wont, even if we win automatic promotion. The entire footballing establishment p*sses off to Faliraki, Aya Nappa, Ibiza, etc. and drinks copious amounts of watered down local booze for a month and nothing ever happens for 6-8 weeks despite increasingly loud and tedious warnings about needing to hit the ground running emanating from the Austrian Alps.
alpine_saint Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 You'd fancy us over two games against anyone in this league, however how often does the team that finish 5th or 6th go up via play offs? And it would be sods law that we beat Bournemouth 3 times comfortably during the season then they fluke a win over us in the play offs. Automatic, absolutely no contest. Especially as the team that finish third normally gas it and I wouldn't be surprised if we do that! Can anybody provide stats to prove that out, the position 4th to 6th that normally wins the playoffs ?
Miltonaggro Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 Auto every time. I would be very concerned about us choking the playoffs and can vividly visualise what would happen with the clock at 88 minutes and the score at 1-1...
BHA Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 It looks as if we are going up; that much is obvious. Brighton may be a tinpot club but you have to hand it to them; it looks as if they will fluke the league this year after many decades of trying. The most likely outcome is that we will be promoted in 2nd place, but as we know the only other teams that would be in the playoffs we have smashed to bits anyway! Would you want another guaranteed screamer of a winning day at Wembley Playoff final or to finish second? Tinpot club? Fluked the league? I think your opinion is way off the mark and worthless at that to.
BHA Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 Brighton are far from being a 'tinpot' club. They have a millionaire backing them (Tony Bloom), have a new state of the art stadium that will open in time for their first game in the Championship in August, and they have sponsorship from American Express, which sounds a little more impressive than our new shirt sponsors, who none of us had ever heard of. As for 'fluking' the league, they are unbeaten at home and are 10 points ahead of Saints. In three games since we were relegated we've failed to beat them and they won 3-1 at the SMS last season. In Poyet they also have a respected manager with his own football legacy at the highest levels. As for us going up via a guaranteed win in the Playoffs, there is no such thing. In the play-offs no club is guaranteed getting to the final, let alone winning it. In the play-offs anything can happen with a 3-1 chance against getting promoted. We've just had an excellent run of 4 wins and that is the way to get promoted. Maybe if it hadn't been for the injuries to arguably our best two players, we would have won against Charlton but the fact remains that it was one of our games in hand and we got 1 point from it, not 3. I remain hopeful of promotion, but far from confident, whereas Brighton could lose to us, Colchester and Huddersfield and still go up. Someone with a fair reflection.
Appy Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 Can anybody provide stats to prove that out, the position 4th to 6th that normally wins the playoffs ? Based on the last 2 years anyway, Millwall won after finishing 3rd and Scvnthorpe won the playoffs after scraping into 6th.
notnowcato Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 Tinpot club? Fluked the league? I think your opinion is way off the mark and worthless at that to. Agreed. You've not fluked the league yet.
Matthew Le God Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 The team that finish third normally gas it and I wouldn't be surprised if we do that! Can anybody provide stats to prove that out, the position 4th to 6th that normally wins the playoffs ? Playoff winners and their positions in the last 4 seasons... 2009/10 Millwall 3rd 2008/09 S****horpe 6th 2007/08 Doncaster Rovers 3rd 2006/07 Blackool 3rd
West End Saint Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 Just have to get promoted I have enjoyed our journey in League 1 had some cracking away days but the club have to move on. Automatic please I would love a extra 3 games & a day out at OT and if we won the play offs we would have WON something however we cant take a chance & we really need to go up so AUTO all the way. For me mind Brighton have won it & fair play to them they have been so consistent so we have to fight all the way for 2nd spot its going to be exciting
thefunkygibbons Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 I can see no way of catching Brighton now, so 2nd will have to do
BHA Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 I can see no way of catching Brighton now, so 2nd will have to do Not over yet still ten games to play and anything can happen. We lose a couple and you win a couple will make it interesting.
alpine_saint Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 Playoff winners and their positions in the last 4 seasons... 2009/10 Millwall 3rd 2008/09 S****horpe 6th 2007/08 Doncaster Rovers 3rd 2006/07 Blackool 3rd Thanks. This means that apart from one fluke year, the best playoff team has won the playoffs. And if we took a closer look at the form in the last 6 weeks or so of 2008/2009, I'll bet Scvnthorpe had the best in that division. And people carp on about the "lottery" of the playoffs EDIT: what this means to me is that we finish 3rd, our greatest threat in the playoffs is probably MK Dons.
SuperMikey Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 Brighton haven't fluked the league - they've just been grinding out results even when they don't play well. They've won 1-0 in 4 of their last 6 games... They're an organised team and hard to beat, I can't see them dropping many points now we're on the home straight of the season (except of course 3 points when we come to town! )
alpine_saint Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 I can see no way of catching Brighton now, so 2nd will have to do Yep. And I think people that try to begrudge or belittle their achievement are disingenuous tw*ts. They are fully deserved Champions.
Toomer Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 I would have liked to have gone up as champions but I think that is out our reach now, would take 2nd place but I fear we may have to settle for the lottery of the plays offs.
saints-cris Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 Still got to aim for first even though there is really very little chance of it happening. Aim for first and get 2nd. Brighton totally deserve to be where they are in the league. I think they have won 9 of their last 10 which is bloody impressive. If we didn't finish 2nd I would be devastated. I could not take having to go through the playoffs.
BHA Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 Still got to aim for first even though there is really very little chance of it happening. Aim for first and get 2nd. Brighton totally deserve to be where they are in the league. I think they have won 9 of their last 10 which is bloody impressive. If we didn't finish 2nd I would be devastated. I could not take having to go through the playoffs. IMO i think you will finish second comfortably. Southampton certainly dont belong in this division.
Turkish Posted 25 March, 2011 Posted 25 March, 2011 Still got to aim for first even though there is really very little chance of it happening. Aim for first and get 2nd. Brighton totally deserve to be where they are in the league. I think they have won 9 of their last 10 which is bloody impressive. If we didn't finish 2nd I would be devastated. I could not take having to go through the playoffs. What i have been impressed with by them is the manner of their wins. They were blowing teams away at one point 4-0 at Charlton and P'boro i believe but they have also won a lot of games 1-0, just done enough which is what teams that win things do.
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