Does anyone hate their boss..?

[View From The Top]

How do you know he has? Heads of Industries have always been involved with football violence. My brother in law was heavily involved with the Newcastle Gremlins back in the 80's and earns very good money in a very respectable job. Just needed his release at the weekend.

 

Because he has a season ticket in the Chapel with his 8yo son, Corky Morris and his two boys and Hasper57Saint.

 

He can also be found at most away games with his son in tow. No son = no go.

 

He also isn't interested in anyway, shape or form and these days prefers a decent cup of Yorkshire tea to an ale.

 

It's called growing up and being at peace with oneself (corny but true).

 

Plus, 7.5months away from my young son is something I can never replace and would never risk being away from my kids again.

[sebastian firefly]

those who can ...Do

those who cant...teach

 

the unable and incompetant...Manage

[Jonnyboy]

I've no issues with whatever he does.

 

My name is David Walker and I live in sunny Stafford. I was sent down for my part in the Maze Hill trouble and was given the titualr title The Bedroom General by my laywer in court (cheers for that one!)

 

I was subsequently banned from teaching in state schools for 5 years but made the switch to FE and retrained to teach maths (which was hard work). I'm now a HoD and have just recently been OFSTED'd again. Yet again my dept was rated outstanding as was I in an institution rated as good.

 

I also teach PTLLS, CTLLS and DTLLS as well as on PGCE courses.

 

I run a sussessful sideline selling on ebay which earns me 5 figures net per year and a another niffty line in "teaching" how to sell on ebay. No big deal but it's a nice little earner.

 

I've nothing to hide and I don't really care what anyone thinks.

 

What do you sell?

[derry]

My boss today...we were trying to install some military software that we use...never seen it before, did not even know what server it was supposed to go on...the install instructions were partly missing in the box..the help desk type people were off this afternoon for training..

 

tell my boss...his reply..."get it fuking sorted or you will be fuking sorted"...I try to explain that installing this application blind COULD have a knock on effect of the business management facility of our network if it went wrong...his response "could not give a fuk you cnnut, get it sorted now"

 

he speaks to me like that and I am a Senior Rate/Rank....know wonder the younger lads really hate him and are plotting filling him in when we are at a foreign stop

 

I hate him

 

Be smart. Get a mini tape recorder, record some of his outbursts and give him a copy. He may well get the message he is on dodgy ground. Who knows on whose desk the tape might end up. I dealt with a lot of ex military dictators over promoted by their ex military mates, by working on the principle of not trying to push **** uphill, knowing that it moves downhill pretty quick. Being in demand to partner the Managing Director in golf tournaments helped. In the end they were so twitchy about me letting off steam at the Managing Director that they were terrified to do or say anything.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

How do you know he has? Heads of Industries have always been involved with football violence. My brother in law was heavily involved with the Newcastle Gremlins back in the 80's and earns very good money in a very respectable job. Just needed his release at the weekend.

 

How do you know he hasn't?

 

If he is not under strict surveillance, by the Police and teaching authorities, then I'd be very surprised. VFTT will be well aware of that.

 

Many who were involved in the 70's have turned their lives around successfully, why not VFTT?

 

Having to stand in the dock, charged with a violent act, is a sobering call.

 

It often works wonders.

 

I'm in the Chapel with my boy.

[revolution saint]

Shame Dune decided to turn this a bit personal. I've no thoughts whatsoever about VFFT as I don't know the facts but I do know it has nothing to do with the OP. In future Dune just tell VFFT that you don't like him, and then the rest of us can carry on what was an interesting thread.

[Turkish]

for the benefit of everyone involved this is best off left in the past and doesn't need bringing up again. Everyone involved has moved on from this now although sadly it seems some of the OB cant and are still victimising and stitching up one or two lads trying to get them banned again for doing nothing although thats another story for another day.

Edited 26 March, 2011 by Turkish

[BadgerBadger]

Quite frankly DD man the **** up and get on with it:

1. it's the military so why take it personally

2. head down, get on with it as he'll never last if he loses respect from the crew

3. you're in a place where you'll lose far more by bailiing out than sticking with it

4. the crap times you'll have now will be small change if you hang in there

 

I have a new boss that is almost military like but not disrespectfull.

You're doing really well not to put the fcker on his ass with a good right hook from what you've said

[dune]

I've no issues with whatever he does.

 

My name is David Walker and I live in sunny Stafford. I was sent down for my part in the Maze Hill trouble and was given the titualr title The Bedroom General by my laywer in court (cheers for that one!)

 

Deleted because unlike vftt i feel ashamed for what i've done. He only thinks about himself or he'd have taken up my offer of a truce a long time ago.

Edited 26 March, 2011 by dune

[CB Saint]

Dune - wind it in will you. I know that you dislike him, but for Christ's Sake give a rest. We are all bored of it.

[dune]

Dune - wind it in will you. I know that you dislike him, but for Christ's Sake give a rest. We are all bored of it.

 

Deleted because unlike vftt i feel ashamed for what i've done. He only thinks about himself or he'd have taken up my offer of a truce a long time ago. With him it's all me me me, but if he'd have had an ounce of decency he'd have thought of the others and dropped his slurs against me knowing that i'd reply in the vein i did. But no. Just look at him on here posting with a swagger about it all. What a d/ckhead. Put yourself in his place and anyone with an ounce of respect for the others involved would've thought of them and thought **** this, it's not worth engaging in this petty tit for tat ******** and bringing up history. I just can't get my head round how someone could be so selfish. That's the real VFTT for you.

Edited 26 March, 2011 by dune

[Atticus Finch of Maycomb]

Deleted because unlike vftt i feel ashamed for what i've done. He only thinks about himself or he'd have taken up my offer of a truce a long time ago. With him it's all me me me, but if he'd have had an ounce of decency he'd have thought of the others and dropped his slurs against me knowing that i'd reply in the vein i did. But no. Just look at him on here posting with a swagger about it all. What a d/ckhead. Put yourself in his place and anyone with an ounce of respect for the others involved would've thought of them and thought **** this, it's not worth engaging in this petty tit for tat ******** and bringing up history. I just can't get my head round how someone could be so selfish. That's the real VFTT for you.

 

you are a bigger t*at than him. so no one cares what you think.

[sambosa75]

Because he has a season ticket in the Chapel with his 8yo son, Corky Morris and his two boys and Hasper57Saint.

 

He can also be found at most away games with his son in tow. No son = no go.

 

He also isn't interested in anyway, shape or form and these days prefers a decent cup of Yorkshire tea to an ale.

 

It's called growing up and being at peace with oneself (corny but true).

 

Plus, 7.5months away from my young son is something I can never replace and would never risk being away from my kids again.

 

Fair dos mate. That wasnt a sly dig at you or anything, just pointing out that a lot of people always assume that people getting caught up in this sort of thing have $hite jobs and are the dregs of society which is true in many instances but certainly not all.

[Verbal]

Deleted because unlike vftt i feel ashamed for what i've done. He only thinks about himself or he'd have taken up my offer of a truce a long time ago. With him it's all me me me, but if he'd have had an ounce of decency he'd have thought of the others and dropped his slurs against me knowing that i'd reply in the vein i did. But no. Just look at him on here posting with a swagger about it all. What a d/ckhead. Put yourself in his place and anyone with an ounce of respect for the others involved would've thought of them and thought **** this, it's not worth engaging in this petty tit for tat ******** and bringing up history. I just can't get my head round how someone could be so selfish. That's the real VFTT for you.

 

Your hypocrisy is staggering. Unlike VFTT, you are NOT ashamed of what you've done - acting as a bedroom recruiting sergeant (no way would you ever make general) for gangs that entertain themselves with their violent awaydays, not outside football grounds, but against Asian men, men and children. I can't imagine that VFTT or anyone else would be remotely interested in your pathetic offer of a 'truce'. It really isn't about you, you , you.

[sambosa75]

How do you know he hasn't?

 

If he is not under strict surveillance, by the Police and teaching authorities, then I'd be very surprised. VFTT will be well aware of that.

 

Many who were involved in the 70's have turned their lives around successfully, why not VFTT?

 

Having to stand in the dock, charged with a violent act, is a sobering call.

 

It often works wonders.

 

I'm in the Chapel with my boy.

 

ESB, you know my Uncle so you'll probably know my Dad as well. You'll know that either of them were no shrinking violets back in the day. I know from first hand experience leopards do change their spots (either that or old father time catches up with them!). I wasnt having a dig, just challenging the common misconception that its only oiks and scum that get involved with this sort of thing.

[View From The Top]

Stanley gets upset because I've re-built my life and have everything he's envious of and he considers it unfair.

 

It's understandable and I bear him no ill feeling because of it. One day he may find a place where he is truly happy and then he'll understand.

[dune]

Stanley gets upset because I've re-built my life and have everything he's envious of and he considers it unfair.

 

It's understandable and I bear him no ill feeling because of it. One day he may find a place where he is truly happy and then he'll understand.

 

I've already explained why i'm upset. I'm a c/nt for bringing all this up, but you are also a c/nt for not backing off and thus allowing it to be brought up. If you had an ounce of respect for the others that were involved you'd have accepted a truce for their sake. Do you get it now?

[Turkish]

Your hypocrisy is staggering. Unlike VFTT, you are NOT ashamed of what you've done - acting as a bedroom recruiting sergeant (no way would you ever make general) for gangs that entertain themselves with their violent awaydays, not outside football grounds, but against Asian men, men and children. I can't imagine that VFTT or anyone else would be remotely interested in your pathetic offer of a 'truce'. It really isn't about you, you , you.

 

thats quite an accusation to make, what is it based on?

[SuperMikey]

I was promoted to manager not long ago.

 

 

???

[dune]

thats quite an accusation to make, what is it based on?

 

Probably because I support the EDL. What Verbal fails to realise is that by and large EDL demos are peaceful.

[revolution saint]

Probably because I support the EDL. What Verbal fails to realise is that by and large EDL demos are peaceful.

 

This thread isn't about that though and it's getting boring reading accusations and counter accusations. Frankly I really don't care.

[View From The Top]

thats quite an accusation to make, what is it based on?

 

Dune maybe a total plum but in no way has he attempted to recruit folk to commit disorder at EDL rallies from this site.

[dune]

My boss is alright. He lets you do your job and you don't really see much of him.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

ESB, you know my Uncle so you'll probably know my Dad as well. You'll know that either of them were no shrinking violets back in the day. I know from first hand experience leopards do change their spots (either that or old father time catches up with them!). I wasnt having a dig, just challenging the common misconception that its only oiks and scum that get involved with this sort of thing.

 

Old father time does catch up but not just physically. He also works his way into your mind and tends to steer it onto a more even keel.

 

A court appearance also tends to help that process. If you know that I know your Dad and Uncle then you'll probably know my real name. I'm on FB, do come and say hello.

 

Also:

 

I've already explained why i'm upset. I'm a c/nt for bringing all this up, but you are also a c/nt for not backing off and thus allowing it to be brought up. If you had an ounce of respect for the others that were involved you'd have accepted a truce for their sake. Do you get it now?

 

I was totally unaware of who VFTT was until you quoted comments made by the judge at trial. You have since decided to delete those comments, among others on this thread.

 

You make mention of doing something of which you are ashamed does it fit in with VFTT's experience?

 

Were you also involved at Charlton?

 

You may have a legitimate gripe with VFTT, I don't know, but you certainly have managed to focus attention on yourself when you are accusing him of 'bringing it all up'.

 

If you were involved at Charlton then you really only have yourself to blame, it's nobody elses fault.

[dune]

No I wasn't involved. And I have nothing more to say on the matter.

[scotty]

No I wasn't involved. And I have nothing more to say on the matter.

 

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[Atticus Finch of Maycomb]

Dune maybe a total plum but in no way has he attempted to recruit folk to commit disorder at EDL rallies from this site.

 

Maybe it is a matter of opinion. Maybe. But I see what Verbal meant. Note dune posting the entire EDL mission statement on previous threads. He has also made statements such as "I think such a moderate organisation should be welcomed because it's about time that patriotism was wrestled away from the far right and this is exactly what the EDL is achieving" and "I think most British people would agree with the EDL and imo they should be respected for getting off their arses and speaking out."

 

He is clearly an EDL apologist and is trying (in vain) to make people change their opinions against the EDL and to make them more acceptable in society. I think it is splitting hairs to suggest that this is not an attempt to 'recruit' for the EDL. What is it then?

 

Dune has not encouraged violence directly, and has tried to convice us that the EDL is peaceful (not true). So he is not encouraging people to commit disorder, as far as I know. But recruiting, almost certainly. You'd have to be incredibly naive to believe otherwise.

 

And Dune would march at an EDL rally for certain, if only his parents would let him.

[Weston Super Saint]

 

He is clearly an EDL apologist

 

I'm not sure what the problem is?

 

Last time I checked, Britain was a free country that allowed freedom of speech.

 

Surely Dune, or whoever else for that matter can have whatever religious / political beliefs they choose, and can talk about them to their hearts content. You don't have to agree with his point of view, you don't even have to listen to it via the 'ignore' button.

 

I'm sure the site owners and moderators - even Baj - are sensible enough to not allow people to over step the mark, and will take appropriate action if they do. If you are suggesting that Dune is not entitled to his opinion, then surely that must apply to Super Mikey, BTF and all the other posters on here that state and defend their own political beliefs?

[bridge too far]

I'm not sure what the problem is?

 

Last time I checked, Britain was a free country that allowed freedom of speech.

 

Surely Dune, or whoever else for that matter can have whatever religious / political beliefs they choose, and can talk about them to their hearts content. You don't have to agree with his point of view, you don't even have to listen to it via the 'ignore' button.

 

I'm sure the site owners and moderators - even Baj - are sensible enough to not allow people to over step the mark, and will take appropriate action if they do. If you are suggesting that Dune is not entitled to his opinion, then surely that must apply to Super Mikey, BTF and all the other posters on here that state and defend their own political beliefs?

 

This

[Turkish]

I'm not sure what the problem is?

 

Last time I checked, Britain was a free country that allowed freedom of speech.

 

Surely Dune, or whoever else for that matter can have whatever religious / political beliefs they choose, and can talk about them to their hearts content. You don't have to agree with his point of view, you don't even have to listen to it via the 'ignore' button.

 

I'm sure the site owners and moderators - even Baj - are sensible enough to not allow people to over step the mark, and will take appropriate action if they do. If you are suggesting that Dune is not entitled to his opinion, then surely that must apply to Super Mikey, BTF and all the other posters on here that state and defend their own political beliefs?

 

That only applies on here if your beliefs are the same as everyone elses. We've had this before, all these self righteous and self titled tolerant people on here are only tolerent if everyone agrees with them and sings off the same hymn sheet.

Edited 27 March, 2011 by Turkish

[Saint137]

Anyway, back to bosses. My current one looks like and acts like the general from Inglorious Basterds. Previous one is a friend for life who I would do anything for...

[bridge too far]

I've been really lucky with most of my bosses.

 

One was a Liverpudlian with a very broad accent and I'm sure I only got the job because I was the only candidate who could understand him (my grandparents being Liverpudlians). He treated all his staff with respect and never, ever pulled the 'I'm your boss, so do as I say' line. He promoted me twice in 18 months

 

Another one was very smart and led by example. She recently was awarded an MBE. She pulled herself up through the ranks by sheer hard work and dedication (as well as ability) and has delivered a number of big hospital building projects on time and budget. She was great at recognising peoples' abilities (rather than just paper qualifications) and she also promoted me rapidly.

 

My last boss was a d*ck and lied through his teeth.

[Atticus Finch of Maycomb]

I'm not sure what the problem is?

 

Last time I checked, Britain was a free country that allowed freedom of speech.

 

Surely Dune, or whoever else for that matter can have whatever religious / political beliefs they choose, and can talk about them to their hearts content. You don't have to agree with his point of view, you don't even have to listen to it via the 'ignore' button.

 

I'm sure the site owners and moderators - even Baj - are sensible enough to not allow people to over step the mark, and will take appropriate action if they do. If you are suggesting that Dune is not entitled to his opinion, then surely that must apply to Super Mikey, BTF and all the other posters on here that state and defend their own political beliefs?

 

I agree with freedom of speech, absolutely, but you have contradicted yourself. You say there is freedom of speech, then you say baj should take action if something 'oversteps the mark'. So what you are preaching is 'freedom of speech, up to a point'. A paradox.

 

I enjoy debating political issues. Always have. And despite what Turkish says below, the opposite is true. It is the right wing who are intolerant of others. That's what the EDL is!!! Intolerace of other cultures.

 

I have no problem with white people, asian people, christains, jews, muslims, whatever. I would never call an EDL member a 'chav', for example. If dune was a gypsy and a racist, I would attack his belief, not his culture. If a muslim says we should kill people who draw pictures of Allah, same goes. Africans who believe in female circumcision. Anyone who dune can say what he wants, as long as he is willing to be challenged. Same goes for me.

 

I don't believe the EDL should be banned. It sets a bad precident. But neither should muslim clerics who preach hate. Just debated, and mocked.

[Kadeem Hardison]

I have never been a massive fan of VFTT, but dune makes him more likeable with every post against him. No wonder Deppo is so popular on here, with dune in his opposite corner all the time. And as for the EDL stuff he posts, same goes. The more he posts about it, the more he turns people off from it. I have no problem with that.

[dune]

That only applies on here if your beliefs are the same as everyone elses. We've had this before, all these self righteous and self titled tolerant people on here are only tolerent if everyone agrees with them and sings off the same hymn sheet.

 

Nail on head.

[View From The Top]

I'm not sure what the problem is?

 

Last time I checked, Britain was a free country that allowed freedom of speech.

 

Surely Dune, or whoever else for that matter can have whatever religious / political beliefs they choose, and can talk about them to their hearts content. You don't have to agree with his point of view, you don't even have to listen to it via the 'ignore' button.

 

I'm sure the site owners and moderators - even Baj - are sensible enough to not allow people to over step the mark, and will take appropriate action if they do. If you are suggesting that Dune is not entitled to his opinion, then surely that must apply to Super Mikey, BTF and all the other posters on here that state and defend their own political beliefs?

 

Spot. On.

 

However, it doesn't mean that those views cannot be challenged.

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

My last boss was a d*ck and lied through his teeth.

 

ducks don't have teeth

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

VFTT can you just give Dune is money back. That toaster he bought on ebay never worked.

[View From The Top]

VFTT can you just give Dune is money back. That toaster he bought on ebay never worked.

 

I will once a sell a hoover that my old girl blagged off a pervy neighbour.

[scotty]

I have never been a massive fan of VFTT, but dune makes him more likeable with every post against him. No wonder Deppo is so popular on here, with dune in his opposite corner all the time. And as for the EDL stuff he posts, same goes. The more he posts about it, the more he turns people off from it. I have no problem with that.

 

Deppo aint popular on here no more dude, he done got himself banneded

[Kadeem Hardison]

Spot. On.

 

However, it doesn't mean that those views cannot be challenged.

 

This. It seems that too many people think that criticising people's opinions is somehow in opposition to the concept of free speech. Bloody thickos.

[pedg]

I think some one needs to change the topic on this thread to

 

"Does anyone hate their boss more than they hate other posters on this thread"

 

as to the original question the answer is no and yes.

 

Do I hate my boss as a person? No

Do I hate her due to her almost obsessive compulsive addiction to applying every rule and regulation in the book and her over reaction to the seriousness of every conceivable transgression such that I am currently having to appeal against a final written warning? Yes

Edited 27 March, 2011 by pedg

[dronskisaint]

Deppo aint popular on here no more dude, he done got himself banneded

 

Difference between the two is Deppo will be welcomed back once his infraction is served out...Dune will never be!

[Weston Super Saint]

Difference between the two is Deppo will be welcomed back once his infraction is served out...Dune will never be!

 

The other difference is, that as Deppo has had so many previous bannings, he should not be coming back, which probably won't be such a bad thing for those of us who found him to be unfunny and predictable.

 

A bit like a schoolkid who has just discovered sarcasm and cannot communicate any other way than with his new 'toy'.

[Junction 9]

The other difference is, that as Deppo has had so many previous bannings, he should not be coming back, which probably won't be such a bad thing for those of us who found him to be unfunny and predictable.

 

A bit like a schoolkid who has just discovered sarcasm and cannot communicate any other way than with his new 'toy'.

 

This is the first time Deppo has been banned actually.

[dune]

This is the first time Deppo has been banned actually.

 

How is he coping?

[dronskisaint]

The other difference is, that as Deppo has had so many previous bannings, he should not be coming back, which probably won't be such a bad thing for those of us who found him to be unfunny and predictable.

 

A bit like a schoolkid who has just discovered sarcasm and cannot communicate any other way than with his new 'toy'.

 

Each to his own interpretation but whilst not finding everything he posted funny I find far more wit, humour and originality than in anything ever posted by t'other one.

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

Why was Deppo banned? I found 60% of his posts very funny.

[bridge too far]

Each to his own interpretation but whilst not finding everything he posted funny I find far more wit, humour and originality than in anything ever posted by t'other one.

 

+1

[Micky]

Why was Deppo banned? I found 60% of his posts very funny.

 

The other 40% apparently...!