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Not according to one of our best players.

 

After one match, right? Ie. a comment on a particular match. And he can be seen doing it. That's a fact. I have seen him.

 

TBH, you think Davis is crap so I shudder to think who "one of our best players" is. In any case, you should keep it to yourself.

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That has hardly ever happened for months now. He is the best passer in the team by some distance.

 

Amusingly massive lie there.

 

And ok, I don't spend ALL the game watching the strikers, but I do tend to watch what they're doing when our midfielders (or strikers) have the ball.

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A forward as prolific as him obviously knows when to move and when not to. LB runs the whole friggin time but is less effective.

 

That's a load of ar5e. Most of Lambert's standing still successes are only successful due to teammates' movement. If they both stood there doing nothing they'd be very very easy to defend against.

 

He's decent at getting half a yard to flick the ball on, but that relies on someone running off him to make that worthwhile.

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Amusingly massive lie there.

 

And ok, I don't spend ALL the game watching the strikers, but I do tend to watch what they're doing when our midfielders (or strikers) have the ball.

 

It's not a lie. Lambert's weight of pass, execution and vision is consistently better than anyone else's. He would be really good playing in the hole.

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That's a load of ar5e. Most of Lambert's standing still successes are only successful due to teammates' movement. If they both stood there doing nothing they'd be very very easy to defend against.

 

He's decent at getting half a yard to flick the ball on, but that relies on someone running off him to make that worthwhile.

 

54 goals in less than a hundred games. I agree he hasn't been as good this season but he's not the problem.

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That's a load of ar5e. Most of Lambert's standing still successes are only successful due to teammates' movement. If they both stood there doing nothing they'd be very very easy to defend against.

 

He's decent at getting half a yard to flick the ball on, but that relies on someone running off him to make that worthwhile.

 

Not sure what your point is there.

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It's not a lie. Lambert's weight of pass, execution and vision is consistently better than anyone else's. He would be really good playing in the hole.

 

His ball through to N'Guessan for the goal that wasn't on Tuesday night..

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That's a load of ar5e. Most of Lambert's standing still successes are only successful due to teammates' movement. If they both stood there doing nothing they'd be very very easy to defend against.

 

He's decent at getting half a yard to flick the ball on, but that relies on someone running off him to make that worthwhile.

 

Bizarre post. Surely that is the point of a target man? Ball goes him to him, he holds it up, flicks it on, controls and passes and brings other players into the game who are more mobile or am i totally missing the point of a big man/target man up front and they are supposed to run around a lot in a Brett Ormerod type way? And as someone has said his control, passing and vision is very good at this level. I dont agree he would be good in the hole though, not mobile enough so would be easy to mark and less effective than up front.

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Let me say this one last time it's 6 goals and 4 penalties.

If you added 4 pens on to each of our midfield players they'd have impressive scoring stats as well.

 

6 goals is surely still a decent return for a midfielder playing in a mid-table side. Also, didn't he get injured for a while as well? Its not just about scoring goals either so give the lad a chance and wait and see I reckon.

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I'm spitting chips at the moment. It's not the player himself, it's the fact we have gambled on a cheap option from Oldham. We are playing poorly in central midfield and are crying out for a proper leader/playmaker with experience to get us over the line. Gary Jones, captain of Rochdale, 33 years of age, proper playmaker and leader with 14 goals wouldn't be a gamble, Howard wasn't a gamble but this 23 yrs old in his first real season is a gamble.

 

Who says we could even have got Howard or Jones for the right money onto the bus? Do you know exactly who we wanted to sign, how much, financial demands etc?

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Bizarre post. Surely that is the point of a target man? Ball goes him to him, he holds it up, flicks it on, controls and passes and brings other players into the game who are more mobile or am i totally missing the point of a big man/target man up front and they are supposed to run around a lot in a Brett Ormerod type way? And as someone has said his control, passing and vision is very good at this level. I dont agree he would be good in the hole though, not mobile enough so would be easy to mark and less effective than up front.

 

I agree that that's the point of a target man (though you can do that AND be more mobile), what I'm saying is that he's not been particularly great at it this season - his passing has been poor all season and he doesn't get on the end of enough crosses, especially not low ones. What I'm saying is that I think we'd be more of a threat with a more mobile sole striker (Barnard) and a creator in the hole (Guly, maybe Lallana). Lambert, as you say, is no support striker.

 

Anyway, we've signed a CM now, so it's a moot point, as we don't necessarily have to reorganise our line up to accommodate a potential shortage of central midfielders.

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It's not a lie. Lambert's weight of pass, execution and vision is consistently better than anyone else's. He would be really good playing in the hole.

 

That's just patently not true. And as a striker I'd be VERY surprised if his pass completion rate (the only verifiable indicator of passing accuracy) was better than everyone else's in ANY match, never mind consistently.

 

All I can tell you from available stats is that Lambert has more shots than anyone else : http://www.football-league.co.uk/page/DivisionalShooting/0,,10794~201025,00.html

For a bloke who's meant to be so great at passing he doesn't appear very highly on the assist table either...

 

Shame there's no chalkboard for Saints v Man U... :(

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That's just patently not true. And as a striker I'd be VERY surprised if his pass completion rate (the only verifiable indicator of passing accuracy) was better than everyone else's in ANY match, never mind consistently.

 

It is OBVIOUSLY true.

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