trousers Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 Looking forward to the Tory led coalition taking us another step in the right direction....
bridge too far Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 I was shocked to hear this morning that our dear Chancellor allegedly avoided paying £1.6m in tax last year (legally I should add, but hey we're all in it together)
trousers Posted 23 March, 2011 Author Posted 23 March, 2011 I was shocked to hear this morning that our dear Chancellor allegedly avoided paying £1.6m in tax last year (legally I should add, but hey we're all in it together) Good for him. Just think of all that extra money he's been able to spend/invest on a personal level with UK companies, thus boosting the economy, creating jobs, etc..... ;-)
Seaford Saint Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 Good for him. Just think of all that extra money he's been able to spend/invest on a personal level with UK companies, thus boosting the economy, creating jobs, etc..... ;-), Perhaps we shouild all buy shares in firms instead of paying our taxes
Seaford Saint Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 We are the 5th richest country in the world, allegedly. We don't offer free education for over 18's, our health service is underfunded. Where do the likes of the IMF stand on that? Are they concerned?
trousers Posted 23 March, 2011 Author Posted 23 March, 2011 We don't offer free education for over 18's No such thing as "free" education - it has to be funded somehow. And, it's free at the point of use. In fact, for the poorest 25% it's now cheaper overall than it was under Labour, the party who endorsed tuition fees.... our health service is underfunded. Strange then that Labour don't support the Tory led coalition's ring-fencing of, and extra investment in, the NHS....
Verbal Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 No such thing as "free" education - it has to be funded somehow. And, it's free at the point of use. In fact, for the poorest 25% it's now cheaper overall than it was under Labour, the party who endorsed tuition fees.... Strange then that Labour don't support the Tory led coalition's ring-fencing of, and extra investment in, the NHS.... Weird that an old tory like yourself should endorse such crude social engineering in education - attempting to use universities to 'fix' pre-existing inequalities in a way that damages universities and their international standing. And you are clearly very healthy or a BUPA refusenik, because you can't have encountered any doctors recently, the most senior of whom have complained about the wrecking ball being taken to the NHS by the coalition by that bumbling idiot Andrew Lansley.
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 Weird that an old tory like yourself should endorse such crude social engineering in education - attempting to use universities to 'fix' pre-existing inequalities in a way that damages universities and their international standing. And you are clearly very healthy or a BUPA refusenik, because you can't have encountered any doctors recently, the most senior of whom have complained about the wrecking ball being taken to the NHS by the coalition by that bumbling idiot Andrew Lansley. The world's top three employers: The Indian railways The Chinese Army The NHS
Jones91 Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 So whats the best thing to come out of this budget? no fuel duty rise? I mean for myself not the country.
saintfully Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 Looking forward to the Tory led coalition taking us another step in the right direction.... Have you put it in pictures to keep it nice and simple for you?
benjii Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 Have you put it in pictures to keep it nice and simple for you? That's quite a sensible plan, no? I don't think posting a treatise on a forum would be particularly commodious.
saintfully Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 That's quite a sensible plan, no? I don't think posting a treatise on a forum would be particularly commodious. Commodious! My point is that things are not as simple as the images suggest. Not surprisingly the reasons why we fu.cked-up financially and why we are likely to remain fu.cked are more complex than just 'Labour are rubbish'. No need for a thesis, just more honesty. It's getting very boring saying all the countrys financial troubles are down to Labour govt. when evidence shows this not to be the case. There are lots of different reasons why we're fu.cked - and maybe the Tories support for Labours financial policies up till 2007 is one of them.
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 Have you put it in pictures to keep it nice and simple for you? To be fair Labour supporters don't seem to understand this countries issues (probably spending their time digging holes or whatever they do), so this is probably better for them.
benjii Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 I have to say, Osbourne - like Cameron - is a very impressive performer. It's really a breath of fresh air compared to the legion of simpering, gormless half-wits served up by the previous lot (with one or two exceptions on each side). Nice to see someone with an obvious command of his brief.
bridge too far Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 Osbourne is quite good at reading words typed on a piece of paper, I'll give you that
thefunkygibbons Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 Nothing said so far that was not already leaked
benjii Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 Nothing said so far that was not already leaked I heard the BBC "announcing" that council tax would be frozen or cut this morning... this has been known about for months!
Saint_Jonny Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 1p off of fuel duty. Whoopie. That'll help. Useless tosser.
mickn Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 Osbourne is quite good at reading words typed on a piece of paper, I'll give you that Good to know then that his (expensive) education wasn't wasted
LGTL Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 Good to know then that his (expensive) education wasn't wasted Don't forget his University was probably free too...
benjii Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 Has Millibean had a "Something About Mary" moment or is that always there?
benjii Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 Don't forget his University was probably free too... Relevant because...?
Lighthouse Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 Liking the 2% cut in corporation tax personally and the 1p a litre cut in fuel duty, even if that does only save me 30p a week.
bridge too far Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 Ed M making some very good points. Many seasoned, professional observers have noted that Ed M rattles Comedy Comb-back Dave a lot these days. That's why DC never actually answers questions put to him.
LGTL Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 Relevant because...? No reason at all, I just have an axe to grind on this issue with politicians from both parties who have no issues with racking young people with debt while they all got it for free previously. But that's probably for another thread.
Thedelldays Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 1p off of fuel duty. Whoopie. That'll help. Useless tosser. I know. The 7 stage fuel hike was a better idea Serious question When was the last time fuel was actually cut at a budget?
benjii Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 Ed M making some very good points. Many seasoned, professional observers have noted that Ed M rattles Comedy Comb-back Dave a lot these days. That's why DC never actually answers questions put to him. A PM not answering questions directly in the House?! Just fancy that!!
benjii Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 "Del Boy economics". WTF is that supposed to mean?
mickn Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 Where is Dune on this big day?!?!?! Topping his tank up before it goes up again
benjii Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 no income tax, no vat... Result! We'll all be millionaires!
Special K Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 Great news on Corporation Tax - Well done that man.
JackFrost Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 Ed M making some very good points. Many seasoned, professional observers have noted that Ed M rattles Comedy Comb-back Dave a lot these days. That's why DC never actually answers questions put to him. What you mean like Brown? or Blair? or any other PM in the last god knows how many decades?
JackFrost Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 "Del Boy economics". WTF is that supposed to mean? coming from the man whose previous government imposed how many stealth taxes?
Saint_Jonny Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 What you mean like Brown? or Blair? or any other PM in the last god knows how many decades? Brown and Blair, without question, were able to answer questions that were put to them in the house of commons, Blair in particular always seemed to stand his corner well in a debate. DC does seem a bit wet behind the ears on this so far.
benjii Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 Brown and Blair, without question, were able to answer questions that were put to them in the house of commons, Blair in particular always seemed to stand his corner well in a debate. DC does seem a bit wet behind the ears on this so far. No PM ever "answers a question". They deliver a monologue. Cameron is much much much much much much much better at it than Brown.
scotty Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 Commodious! My point is that things are not as simple as the images suggest. Not surprisingly the reasons why we fu.cked-up financially and why we are likely to remain fu.cked are more complex than just 'Labour are rubbish'. No need for a thesis, just more honesty. It's getting very boring saying all the countrys financial troubles are down to Labour govt. when evidence shows this not to be the case. There are lots of different reasons why we're fu.cked - and maybe the Tories support for Labours financial policies up till 2007 is one of them. Agreed. And I'm also getting tired of mr bean bleating the same tired line about the abysmal weather having had absolutely no impact on the growth figures for that quarter. I did about a fifth of the work I normally would because I simply couldnt get anywhere, and nobody could get here to the showroom. On the few occasions i did manage to get into town it was empty. Even the banks were closing early ffs, how can anyone think that wouldnt have a massive impact on the economy? At the busiest economic time of the year?
Lord Duckhunter Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 Brown and Blair, without question, were able to answer questions that were put to them in the house of commons, Blair in particular always seemed to stand his corner well in a debate. DC does seem a bit wet behind the ears on this so far. Rubbish, Blair used to answer questions that hadn't even been asked. He would never answer the direct question put to him. This was a tactic he often used when put under pressure in interviews as well. As for Brown, his budget speeches were the most dishonest I've seen in following these things for 30 odd years. Bad news was always burried away in the Red book, where he hoped it would remain until the news agenda had moved on. He was also an expert on Fiscal drag. Budgets need to be looked at after a few days, but one thing that strikes me stright away is that after 13 years of a Labour Govt the wealthy were flying around without paying APD, but us working class mugs had to pay it on our cheap holiday flights.
JackFrost Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 Brown and Blair, without question, were able to answer questions that were put to them in the house of commons, Blair in particular always seemed to stand his corner well in a debate. DC does seem a bit wet behind the ears on this so far. absolute rubbish. Blair would just spin his way out the question and reply with a dig a at the Tory leader, brown was the same just with less charisma. Cameron's no different.
thefunkygibbons Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 Good to see changes on CFC which will make a difference to UK Plc but will mean nothing to the man on the Clapham Omnibus That is what Government is sometimes about
rocknrollman no2 Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 I know. The 7 stage fuel hike was a better idea Serious question When was the last time fuel was actually cut at a budget? He hasnt really cut the price of fuel,because in January he hiked up the price by 3p,only to take off a 1p now.So we are still paying more.
Verbal Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 Ed M making some very good points. Many seasoned, professional observers have noted that Ed M rattles Comedy Comb-back Dave a lot these days. That's why DC never actually answers questions put to him. I noticed that too. I wasn't the biggest fan of EM's at the start, but he's growing into it quite nicely, and he's worked out that Cameron is all surface oil and little else.
Verbal Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 I know. The 7 stage fuel hike was a better idea Serious question When was the last time fuel was actually cut at a budget? Probably when a cut of 50p on a full tank was thought to be adequate compensation for the £10-per-fill-up rise since tory boy slithered in.
bridge too far Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 He hasnt really cut the price of fuel,because in January he hiked up the price by 3p,only to take off a 1p now.So we are still paying more. And will pay more again in January and August next year
Jonnyboy Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 Good for him. Just think of all that extra money he's been able to spend/invest on a personal level with UK companies, thus boosting the economy, creating jobs, etc..... ;-) Or squirrell away in an offshore bank account until house prices crash even more.
dune Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 Really good budget. Given the mess left by Labour it's good see we have a government that are striving to keep taxes down and cut waste instead. If Labour had got back in we all they'd have put up taxes left right and centre to keep their lot in their cushy public sector non jobs. You just have to look to the year on year council tax rises to keep people in made up jobs down at the council offices. Now the Tories are in they've sorted that out.
dune Posted 23 March, 2011 Posted 23 March, 2011 (edited) Ed M making some very good points. He'll never ever make a good point, because whenever he speaks you don't hear the words that come out of his mouth, you see a geek with a lisp and switch off. The polls show that he is the most disliked of all the party leaders, but it's good to see people like you like him because i'd hate for him to be replaced. Edit: Actually I wouldn't mind him being replaced if he was replaced by Ed Balls. Edited 23 March, 2011 by dune
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now