Charlton 1 - 1 Saints - Post Match Reaction

[rick1976.4.38]

thought durso was a complete tosser,always has been with saints.saw nothing offside about our disallowed goal.the amount of fouling lambert and barnard put up with and no help from the ref and linesman is unreal.think we should have had a pen when daily used his arm near the end.as always when we score we seem to sit back and let the opposition come at us and what were the odds bwp would score.have to say n'guessan touch was pretty poor but i cant believe the idiots having a go when he had only just come on the pitch,at the end of the day he is a saint for now and im sure trying his best for us,so get behind him ffs.good support and a point gained even though at the moment it feels like a defeat,coys

[doddisalegend]

Well just home. How we didn't win that i will never know. Up until like the last 5 mins or so they did nothing. I couldn't even remember Kelvin having to do much if anything at all.

So a bit ****ed off we threw it away with some **** defending but it isn't the end of the world.

What worries me though is that in our 2 games in hand that we have now played we have got a massive 1 point from them. Meaning having games in hand means nothing if you don't win them.

 

Hopefully our injuries today are not serious as losing AOC and Lallana for the next game would be a huge loss.

 

Yes I'm always bemused by people who think games in hand are as good as won.

[S-Clarke]

Agree with all that. And we are too inconsistent to be confident about playoffs. Feel like some wrist-slitting now ...

 

We're pretty consistent recently tbh - 21 points from 30 in our last 10 games. Replicate that in the last 10 and we'll finish 2nd.

[Fan The Flames]

For me the biggest disappointment is our style of play, we are hoofing it long far too much. Defensively we look solid and were only caught short a couple of times, however the midfield had a big hole in it at times but I suppose that is caused by us playing long too often. Nguessan looked poor on the basics but some crosses were good and he took his goal well, people were very supportive around me.

[Windmill Arm 2]

No, they'll be suicidal cos we have potentially lost Chambo and Lallana. That is far more important.

 

They have TEN days to recover, but you and the rest can feel free to slash your wrists. A hard away point won, and could have been 3 if not for a poor decision by the linesman

Second spot will be ours.

[rick1976.4.38]

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[Windmill Arm 2]

Feck me the forum spastics are hard at it tonight. Did anyone notice we actually moved UP the table tonight??? Morons!!! Who honestly believed we would win ALL our remaining games??? And anyone who thinks we were in with a chance of catching Brighton is a retard. Alps etc GROW UP FFS, YOU ARE TRULY PATHETIC, AND HAVE ABSOLUTLEY NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. C###S !!!!

[Saints foreva]

http://www.cafctv.co.uk/articles/20110322/adkins-dismay-at-disallowed-goal_2285314_2322357/0,,10267~2322357~1,00.html

 

Different Adkins interview on Charlton Player for those with Saints Player subscriptions.

[Lighthouse]

I'm not sure I get this 'not winning our games in hand argument.' Games are games. Tonight and Walsall were no different to any other game, just because our rivals weren't playing. If you're going to argue that, then you have to say we've won 6 games in a row which weren't "in hand".

[maysie]

http://www.cafctv.co.uk/articles/20110322/adkins-dismay-at-disallowed-goal_2285314_2322357/0,,10267~2322357~1,00.html

 

Different Adkins interview on Charlton Player for those with Saints Player subscriptions.

 

Fair play to Adkins with the journalist and the crossing the line issue...

[SuperMikey]

Just back from the game - it was an interesting one.

 

First half we were crap, but so were Charlton. Worrying to see Lallana and Chamberlain go off, but as NorthamSteve pointed out to me, it looked as if Lallana may have come down with Dean Hammond's stomach bug and the post-match interview from Adkins mentioned Chambo going over on his ankle, so they shouldn't be out for too long. N'Guessan was totally dire in the first half, but second half he was much better (along with everyone else) and there is no way that his disallowed goal was offside. I was also impressed by Forte, he hasn't done much to impress me so far in a Saints shirt but he looked sharp and threatening up front today. If our passing had been more accurate for him then he may have had a few more chances than he did. D'urso did his usual sh!tty refereeing, Lambert and Barnard were being constantly fouled by the Charlton defence, and we should've had a penalty for hand ball off their No.5.

 

Aside from all the negatives though, a point is a point and we can look forward to welcoming Charlton to SMS in the near future.

[Berkshire Saint]

1-1 was probably a fair enough result in the end given the pressure they put us under in the last 15/20 minutes or so. Davis didn't have a lot to do but their keeper only made one or two saves of note too. So frustrating to concede so late though.

 

Another thing, I wish people would lay off N'Guessen. He's nowhere near as bad as people make him out to be. Yes, his touch is heavy but other than that I thought he showed some signs of promise. The stick he gets whenever he miss-places a pass is ridiculous. People should remember that we're in League 1 so most of our players aren't going to be all that...we're ****ing lucky we've got Lallana and Chamberlain as our regular wingers in this but I reckon N'Guessen is a perfectly reasonable as a squad player and it looks like he may start the next few games so just get behind him. No time for pointless scapegoats at this stage of the season.

[fanimal]

Liked the bit when Ricky looked at him, turned round and passed 30 yards to Chambo though!

[liebherr driver]

Just back, crap performance, especially first half. Queued for 20 mins for a beer at half time to be told that they'd sold out upon reaching the front of queue. Second half not significantly better, cant anyone string passes together anymore? Should of won, but aftera rousing rendition of BWP stole from the skates, it was nailed on the **** would score

[Berkshire Saint]

Liked the bit when Ricky looked at him, turned round and passed 30 yards to Chambo though!

 

Yeah true, when he first came on other player didn't look too keen to give him the ball.

 

Anyone else spot John Denham MP in the away end by the way?

[saintwiz]

Charlton only started playing when they were 1 nil down.

[NickG]

get it into that very very thick head of yours ...... No one wanted saints to lose or draw tonight but the more realistic people on here that understand a little bit about football get the fact that you simply cannot win every game. We have won 4 out of the last 5 games of which three have been tough away games. Charlton is not an easy place to go and win, nor is colchester or bournemouth but the lads have taken 7 points from those games. A very very good return.

 

We are now level on points with p'boro, above them massively on gd, have a game in hand, are 2 points behind h'field with 2 games in hand, massively ahead of them on goal difference as well. In addition, we have only conceded 4 goals in about the last 9 games, a number of which have been away games. We have been scoring regularly and from different areas of the pitch, jaidi, fonte, hammond, barnard, lambert, lallana, oxo, chaplow should i go on?!

 

The job has just become a bit harder, not much harder you over reactive muppet. The fact two players got injured is outisde of our control. The only negative tonight that we could control was conceding late on but having been in front 18 times this season and never lost having been in front, i would suggest that is a very good record.

 

Now why don't you quit moaning and focus on the positives we have going for us for a change.

 

Our name is stamped all over automatic promotion because other teams have to play each other yet as well so will almost certainly slip up. Keep up the form of our last 8-9 games, in fact keep up the consistent form that na has delivered this season and we will get promoted for sure.

 

good post

[Tamesaint]

Yeah true, when he first came on other player didn't look too keen to give him the ball.

 

Anyone else spot John Denham MP in the away end by the way?

 

Sat next to him at MK Dons.

 

Nice to have friends in high places.

[lordswoodsaints]

Anybody who says they're happy with a 1-1 result needs medical help,obviously it is better than losing but we really needed to break that psychological barrier and grab that 2nd place,once we attain 2nd place the pressure is on other teams to take it from us but that didn't happen tonight and now the pressure on us has just gone up a couple of notches.

Losing points in the last few minutes of a game isn't a good sign,why take Barnard off every game?,his work rate is excellent on and off the ball and we obviously lack that towards the end of games.

[bender]

We wont win every game but neither will the others. Having that game in hand (plymouth a) on the Monday of the final week is a bonus. We just need to be within 3 points of 2nd going into that game.

[alpine_saint]

I avoided the board tonight, largely because anything less than a win was going to result in the utter ****** that has been posted by some. i've got three posts per day but I might just go for the infraction. Alpine you are one fookin weirdo T W A T

 

I dunno why, but your post made me laugh.

[LGTL]

We played OK, nothing more nothing less. It was an extremely frustrating night, I absolutely hate Charlton. Hopefully AOC and Lallana aren't too serious, the former looked worse than the latter. We were unlucky with the offside goal but then again they should have scored before the equaliser when they hit the bar. We dominated possession and were never really troubled except the last 5 minutes. The long break will hopefully help us get AOC and Lallana back. A valuable point although should have been all three.

[alpine_saint]

Really? Why would anyone be happy with a draw rather than a win? There is no logic that I can see in that statement. A draw is rubbish considering the form Charlton are in compared to ours and conceding in the last five minutes.

 

I agree completely.

 

However, there is a definite "smug mode" happening here, where those who reckon a draw tonight will be enough for promotion in 2nd place still expect to proven correct. Of course, these morons also predicted a win against Walsall, so it will be interesting to see what else (including the blow that could lose us 2nd place) they will get wrong.

 

Add into that the huge amount of animostiy directed towards me, where I am adamant only a win was good enough last night, and you can see the dynamic that has developed...

[Fan The Flames]

It's not the draw that's bad it's our style of play. Make no mistake Charlton were very poor last time and if we played with a bit more composure and skill we would have walked that game. But instead we didn't take control and left us hanging on in the end. Its not helped by having no depth on the bench.

 

Anyone saying get over it are missing the point, yeah the result on face value is fine but our play was not that of a team that is going to smash into the promotion positions.

[JustMike]

got back so late from game last night so here is my 10p worth.

 

Yet another ****e performance, with the exceptions of Fonte and Deano. We have been played badly for a while now but got out of jail because the teams we played were alot worse. Charlton have been woeful of late and were just a poor in the 1st half. We scored, then for some reason stopped tackling / marking! Their goal was on the back of several passes across the back, into the middle, back again, out wide, back into middle and then forward, we didnt get close to them at any point. And to think, they hit the bar too. We were lucky to get a point from this.

[Windmill Arm 2]

I agree completely.

 

However, there is a definite "smug mode" happening here, where those who reckon a draw tonight will be enough for promotion in 2nd place still expect to proven correct. Of course, these morons also predicted a win against Walsall, so it will be interesting to see what else (including the blow that could lose us 2nd place) they will get wrong.

 

Add into that the huge amount of animostiy directed towards me, where I am adamant only a win was good enough last night, and you can see the dynamic that has developed...

 

The animosity is directed at you because you are not a fan, you are a psycho ***t who revels in doom mongering. You should be banned from this forum, none of your post match comments have any substance, and you seem to have lost all grip on reality. You are pathetic and childlike, and basically a c##t. I would wager that You've never even been to St Marys in your life, I don't even know why you post here, what enjoyment do you get from your deppressive and wholly inaccurate bollix based on.......nothing? YOUVE GOT NOTHING TO SAY AND YOUR SAYING IT TOO LOUD, please stop posting. Report me if you like, being banned from this site would not be a bad thing, its c##Ts like you that have dragged a once good forum into the gutter. I stick to the footymad site, we get GROWN UPS posting over there.

[thefunkygibbons]

Shame

 

Weep a minute

 

Then next

 

The gaffer is right, 10 days rest will help get over the various knocks

[doddisalegend]

Feck me the forum spastics are hard at it tonight. Did anyone notice we actually moved UP the table tonight??? Morons!!! Who honestly believed we would win ALL our remaining games??? And anyone who thinks we were in with a chance of catching Brighton is a retard. Alps etc GROW UP FFS, YOU ARE TRULY PATHETIC, AND HAVE ABSOLUTLEY NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. C###S !!!!

 

The animosity is directed at you because you are not a fan, you are a psycho ***t who revels in doom mongering. You should be banned from this forum, none of your post match comments have any substance, and you seem to have lost all grip on reality. You are pathetic and childlike, and basically a c##t. I would wager that You've never even been to St Marys in your life, I don't even know why you post here, what enjoyment do you get from your deppressive and wholly inaccurate bollix based on.......nothing? YOUVE GOT NOTHING TO SAY AND YOUR SAYING IT TOO LOUD, please stop posting. Report me if you like, being banned from this site would not be a bad thing, its c##Ts like you that have dragged a once good forum into the gutter. I stick to the footymad site, we get GROWN UPS posting over there.

 

Chill pill? kind of sums up your two posts there. As Voltaire said "Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too"

Edited 23 March, 2011 by doddisalegend

[simonsaints1]

Oh and a BIG respect to the Burger place next to The Market Porter. Man those Burgers with Stilton & Chilli Sauce they were the only thing that raised the blood pressue all night

 

Apart from Jaidi's quality strike (and RL's dummy header to set him up)

 

Spot on-those burgers were different quality-I can taste them now.

L Bridge is a great area, plenty of food and drink opportunities, nice women, shame it was all spoilt by the footie.

 

We will bounce back.

COYS

[sandwichsaint]

Poor performance and poor result, I couldn't understand the build up thread - Posh lose (like we've all been hoping they would for weeks) and 50% of posters think that means we then don't have to win our next game - 'a draw will be a good result'. Before yesterday we prob had to win 7 of our last 11 games (4 slip-ups), we now have to win 7 of our last 10 (3 slip-ups) - we have just blown 25% of our wriggle-room.

 

Why was Charlton away bigged up into such a difficult game 'A point will be a good result', 'hard place to go' etc? They have lost 7 of their previous 8, their best player (Jackson) was out, confidence and support at a very low ebb (13k home fans for a meaningless end of season mid-table kick about), they prob didn't have a player on the pitch who would get into our starting 11, yet people seem happy/ok with a point?

 

Potentially Rochdale, Brentford, Plymouth, Orient, and MK are all 'harder' games than Charlton.

 

Badly missed Morgan last night (Chaplow again struggled to retain the ball), and again we underplayed AOC (good when he had it in the first half but he saw very little of the ball). Barnard was busy and effective but RL was a bit meh for most of the game. Injury to AL was obviously disruptive but we should have had enough about us to compensate from other areas - attacking corners in the first half looked dangerous and Fonte has become a real scoring threat over the last few games.

 

Second half we huffed and puffed without forcing any clear cut openings and Dailly and Llera were never really under sustained pressure. Set pieces always looked our best chance and Jaidi took his goal really well, we looked very tired last 15 minutes and their equaliser always looked likely (great goal too, it looked good last night and seen it on the telly now, good measured build up and real quality from their front two to link up there).

 

Gutted we didn't win (I don't expect us to win every game but this was definitely 'winnable'); I suppose if we go up 'drawing ugly' all will be forgiven and forgotten but I expected more last night (a triumph of hope over years of experience I guess?)

[Bucks Saint]

Yeah true, when he first came on other player didn't look too keen to give him the ball.

 

Anyone else spot John Denham MP in the away end by the way?

 

Yep spotted him too - quite close to him. Fair play.

[alpine_saint]

Poor performance and poor result, I couldn't understand the build up thread - Posh lose (like we've all been hoping they would for weeks) and 50% of posters think that means we then don't have to win our next game - 'a draw will be a good result'. Before yesterday we prob had to win 7 of our last 11 games (4 slip-ups), we now have to win 7 of our last 10 (3 slip-ups) - we have just blown 25% of our wriggle-room.

 

Why was Charlton away bigged up into such a difficult game 'A point will be a good result', 'hard place to go' etc? They have lost 7 of their previous 8, their best player (Jackson) was out, confidence and support at a very low ebb (13k home fans for a meaningless end of season mid-table kick about), they prob didn't have a player on the pitch who would get into our starting 11, yet people seem happy/ok with a point?

 

Potentially Rochdale, Brentford, Plymouth, Orient, and MK are all 'harder' games than Charlton.

 

 

Good post.

[Cabrone]

I don't particularly like them, but a round of applause to Brighton, who seem to have top spot well in their grasp, they keep picking up the results like tonight. It's a battle for second now.

 

Unlike us they know how to consistently turn a narrow lead into 3 points, especially away from home.

 

The difference is mental toughness IMO.

[Wes Tender]

Losing points in the last few minutes of a game isn't a good sign,why take Barnard off every game?,his work rate is excellent on and off the ball and we obviously lack that towards the end of games.

 

So it couldn't be that Barnard was taken off for having been booked and Adkins didn't want to risk us being down to 10 men if he got booked again?

 

No, of course not. He was taken off just to weaken the team by depriving it of his effort and industry, even though the pair of legs brought on to replace him would also be fresher too.

[PokingFun]

F ucK me who died and made you god? Saints fans ****ed off and upset they didn't win after conceding in the last five miniutes shocker. When will people learn that the after match thread is were people let all their anger out give it a couple of days and they will have all calmed down. Why do we always have the righteous brigade telling people they can't be upset about the result of a saints match?

 

Not god, just sick of hearing how bad we are after every game we draw / lose even though the team is doing well. We all get upset at individual results, its natural, but do you really think the comments on some of these posts people write about immediately after the games are justified?

[OldNick]

I didnt go and so can't comment on the game as such. My observations are that Peterboro play good football and can score from all over the pitch, and that makes them dangerous to our hopes. We seem unable to score from open play and so cant get the 2nd goal in games like last night to kill a team.

A point away is OK and Charlton however bad form they are in were likely to raise their game.I have called for us to sign some players in the eventuality of injuries suspensions and just to freshen up the squad. Many treated that with scorn, once the loan transfer window closes and the worse happens what then?

How did Forte play?

[OldNick]

The difference is mental toughness IMO.

i believe is that they play decent football and have the players with guile to win games

[Wes Tender]

got back so late from game last night so here is my 10p worth.

 

Yet another ****e performance, with the exceptions of Fonte and Deano. We have been played badly for a while now but got out of jail because the teams we played were alot worse. Charlton have been woeful of late and were just a poor in the 1st half. We scored, then for some reason stopped tackling / marking! Their goal was on the back of several passes across the back, into the middle, back again, out wide, back into middle and then forward, we didnt get close to them at any point. And to think, they hit the bar too. We were lucky to get a point from this.

 

They hit the bar, but the ball didn't go in. Who cares if they hit the bar, the post, whether the ball was cleared off the line several times, etc? On the other side of that particular coin, we actually scored a match winning goal which was apparently disallowed by an inept linesman who called it offside and had a good penalty appeal dismissed also.

 

That's the way it goes sometimes

[doddisalegend]

Not god, just sick of hearing how bad we are after every game we draw / lose even though the team is doing well. We all get upset at individual results, its natural, but do you really think the comments on some of these posts people write about immediately after the games are justified?

 

It's not up to me to decide if they're justified. They're someone elses opinions normally written in the heat of the moment. Against a team who hasn't won in eight it could be seen as a poor result I have no problem with that. Whether someone thinks the team is doing well problably depends on what peoples expectations were at the start of the season.

[dubai_phil]

So it couldn't be that Barnard was taken off for having been booked and Adkins didn't want to risk us being down to 10 men if he got booked again?

 

No, of course not. He was taken off just to weaken the team by depriving it of his effort and industry, even though the pair of legs brought on to replace him would also be fresher too.

 

Barnard was labouring for 5 or 10 mins before the foul. The foul was also a tired attempt to make a "must win tackle" and he got booked rightly so.

 

Barnard has great industry and in the box will be deadly, BUT with our possession based passing game, there are too many times when Lee has his back to goal and is simply bundled off the ball as the ball comes in to his chest or head. Future Son In Law noted the huge difference in the way Lambert has the control & strength to hold the ball better in those situations.

When you have LB being brushed aside on the edge of the box and AOC not firing on all cylinders, it makes it very difficult for our style of football. When Forte came on he did give the option of pace, and I can see why we have brought him in, he does offer something different as the game gets more open.

[Wes Tender]

I didnt go and so can't comment on the game as such. My observations are that Peterboro play good football and can score from all over the pitch, and that makes them dangerous to our hopes. We seem unable to score from open play and so cant get the 2nd goal in games like last night to kill a team.

 

We have had goals from all over the pitch too. Did you forget the goal from Jaidi and Fonte's goals recently? They are our CBs for crissakes. We have had others from all over the pitch too. And as for the second goals to kill off a team, what were all those matches where we scored several goals and have a massive goal difference advantage over our main rivals? Anyway, even if all of those goals came from set-pieces, rival teams would be saying that Southampton were dangerous to their hopes because of our ability to score from them.

[Kingsbridge Saint]

Another open door Saints fail to walk through. Different season, same ****. Saw it coming a

Mile off. Need to develop some mental toughness pdq or we're play off bound. Very disappointing.

[forever a red and white]

A draw isn't ideal but by no means a disaster considering we lost two very creative players, but Guly and N'Guessan should be worthy replacements, actually gives them both a chance to prove themselves and the same with Forte as well.

 

Seen the highlights, N'Guessan was well on side, but these things happen. The break will be good, bring on MK Dons.

[Fan The Flames]

Not god, just sick of hearing how bad we are after every game we draw / lose even though the team is doing well. We all get upset at individual results, its natural, but do you really think the comments on some of these posts people write about immediately after the games are justified?

 

Those post are people's opinion and are just as justified as yours. You can only beat it with reasoned arguments not personal attacks. What is the reasoned argument for Southampton playing so poorly of late.

[wild-saint]

N'Guessan for me could be ok. Yesterdays game when he came on he look like Ali Dia. His first touch was the worst Ive ever seen. His second third and fourth werent much better. To be fair he looks like a player with shattered confidence and is waiting for the crowd to get on his back. As the game wore on he looked better and I can see why we have brought him in if he is firing on all cylinders. However Im not sure he is what we need over a short period of time as he is definately a player that needs work to rebuild his confidence and im not sure we will see the best of him over 10 games.

[Griffo]

Some people on here are pathetic. We're still in the driving seat for 2nd.

 

As for the game.. We hardly played any football, smashed it up to Lambert far too much. We should have controlled the game much better too. With 3,000 of us there, we made **** all noise either.

[Toomer]

I think most of us would have taken a draw when we should have played at Christmas, not the end of the world, the knocks to AL & OXO are more of a worry.

[Roger]

We were shocking last night. I can't remember too many times in last two years we have been worse. Nguessan was just shocking.We didn't deserve to win at all. Carry on like that and we won't go up.although we have won a lot recently, chaplow and Hammond are too similar and don't hold ball. Marks are:

 

Davis 6

butterfield 6

jaidi 7

fonte 7

Harding 7

chambo 4

chaplow 3

Hammond 7

lallana 5

lambert 7

Barnard 7

 

Nguessan 3

forte 6

we need to get someone in midfield who can pass asap

[LostBoys]

Just not good enough. The goal was schoolboy error again - ok we did score a winner and it was disallowed but the performance according to those there was crap. Why not shore up the midfield once we scored as the two new boys cannot mark or tackle to save their careers - but I am not blaming them we are lightweight in midfield and unless something is done we will not reach 2nd. Very very disappointed.

[CWD]

With 3,000 of us there, we made **** all noise either.

 

You seem to say this after every away game, but once again, on the radio the saints fans sounded fantastic. Also both sets of commentators said how fantastic the travelling support was.

 

Think you need to clear your ears out mate!