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I was part of a "Violent assault" and the stewards were informed to eject all parties involved. I spent 45 minutes with St Johns being treated and was promtly ejected afterwards. I made my disgust clear and will take up my issues with SFC at 9am on Monday. I have plenty of witnesses who will confirm the goings on.

 

PSML from someone who always 'gives it the big one'; on here.

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I was part of a "Violent assault" and the stewards were informed to eject all parties involved. I spent 45 minutes with St Johns being treated and was promtly ejected afterwards. I made my disgust clear and will take up my issues with SFC at 9am on Monday. I have plenty of witnesses who will confirm the goings on.

 

Sounds rough, what was the argument about?

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All about the results. But if the performances don't improve we'll be heading for the playoffs. Apart from a twenty minute spell in the second half, and a brief flicker at the end of the first half we were very pedestrian, very ordinary indeed. It's not a team thing - just lots and lots of individual errors - cracking under pressure - poor first touches, misplaced passes, moving the ball too slow, strolling around. I expected better to be honest. Take the 3 points though, and hopefully performances will improve with the confidence results bring.

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Well done Saints. Not the prettiest display I've ever seen, but there was never any doubt as to who the eventual winner of this match would be.

 

Great day for football. Wake up and watch Saints win on the internet, then go down the road and watch the Vancouver Whitecaps play their first game in the MLS. Great atmosphere, and good to see the Whitecaps fully deserving of their 4-2 win against rivals Toronto F.C. (Canada's Pompey equivalent!)

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He was a moron, I made my opinion clear as I always do and am happy for people to tell me to my face when they feel I am so... Ten minutes later he f*****g smashed me in the face with hardest right hook I have ever recieved (been a few).
To be fair, if you insist on giving your opinion to lagered up morons at a football match, you can have no complaint when one of them decides to dig you in the chops, It might be a good idea to keep your opinions to yourself next time.
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all about the results. But if the performances don't improve we'll be heading for the playoffs. Apart from a twenty minute spell in the second half, and a brief flicker at the end of the first half we were very pedestrian, very ordinary indeed. It's not a team thing - just lots and lots of individual errors - cracking under pressure - poor first touches, misplaced passes, moving the ball too slow, strolling around. I expected better to be honest. Take the 3 points though, and hopefully performances will improve with the confidence results bring.

omg !!!!!! We won ffs !!!??? Who cares how we win, what matters is that more often than not, we win !!!???

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Despite the complacency of some people, my feeling is that fans should remain cautious. As many have pointed out, the team did not play well for long periods. In the first 15 minutes or so they hardly strung any passes together, despite Adkins' intention that they should play a 'passing game'. When they did start to have more possession, they weren't able to make it count. There did seem to be more wing play in the second half which seemed to make a difference, so did Adkins change his tactics at half time. If so, good for him for that, but it would mean he adopted the wrong tactics for the first half.

 

It is said that results speak for themselves, and 4 straight wins do that (still a shame about Walsall though) and looking at the table, those 12 points have proved to be crucial. The reason for the caution, is that any slip can prove to be very costly when other teams are also performing well. Realistically, Saints can't win every game to the end of the season, that would be very unlikely, but slips have got to be kept to a minimum and at half-time yesterday a slip looked all too possible.

 

The new CMF needs to be someone who really is worth a starting place, not just cover for DH/RC, so we shall find out this week if NC and NA have the resolve that we expect of them because the team does need improvement to make slip-ups less of a worry.

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PSML from someone who always 'gives it the big one'; on here.

 

Yep, I'm always making threats and giving it the biggy, cuz I think I'm a right geeza. I like to have a laugh mate, I go to Footy to have a good time, I'd had a couple of jars and our fellow Saints fan who was spouting absolute garbage took offense to something I said, His answer was violence.

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Despite the complacency of some people, my feeling is that fans should remain cautious. As many have pointed out, the team did not play well for long periods. In the first 15 minutes or so they hardly strung any passes together, despite Adkins' intention that they should play a 'passing game'. When they did start to have more possession, they weren't able to make it count. There did seem to be more wing play in the second half which seemed to make a difference, so did Adkins change his tactics at half time. If so, good for him for that, but it would mean he adopted the wrong tactics for the first half.

 

It is said that results speak for themselves, and 4 straight wins do that (still a shame about Walsall though) and looking at the table, those 12 points have proved to be crucial. The reason for the caution, is that any slip can prove to be very costly when other teams are also performing well. Realistically, Saints can't win every game to the end of the season, that would be very unlikely, but slips have got to be kept to a minimum and at half-time yesterday a slip looked all too possible.

 

The new CMF needs to be someone who really is worth a starting place, not just cover for DH/RC, so we shall find out this week if NC and NA have the resolve that we expect of them because the team does need improvement to make slip-ups less of a worry.

 

Of course cautious, it is very tight - couple of bad results and will look a lot different.

 

It is not just 4 wins in a row which is good, last ten - 7 wins, 2 draws, 1 defeat (and the defeat was meant to be one of the best performances!)

 

Disagree about looking like a slip yesterday, I often get nervy at games and never doubted a win during game yesterday.

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Good game :D

 

You think? I don't! First half was woeful, poor quality hoof football. It wasn't good despite the result. Yet again we made a vast improvement second half with more urgency, passing & movement but it wasn't a match deserving of many plaudits considering how poor Wednesday were. I'm not sure if it's the squad not following instructions or Adkins tactics but we certainly need to coach the squad in playing both halves.

 

Pleased with 3 points but I defintely have concerns how we have be playing as of late. Colchester start, etc. Hope we buck our ideas up for Charlton, MK & Brighton. Don't think we'll get let off the hook so easily.

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We won, we didn't play well, this is generally accepted as a sign of a good team!

In truth I thought we were poor for most of the game. Couldn't pass or keep the ball for very long, particularly in central midfield where we really miss Morgan. We need to sign another cm who can do the simple things well or we could find ourselves struggling against the better teams.

Thought Harding was very good and another clean sheet is excellent. Whilst we keep clean sheets the team do not have to play well for 90 minutes or even 45, a 15 minute spell will be good enough to win us games.

the auto promotion spot is within our grasp now I have to hope I can get out of work early enough to get to Carlton.

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Why all the sniping? First half was a bit too much hoof ball but I can't remember Kelvin having to make a serious save in the entire game. The only shots they had on target went gently into his arms. And in the second half we managed to pass to each other and could easily have had more goals. I thought Harding was excellent, as were Fonte and Barnard. Jaidi's passing sometimes frightened me but, defensively, he was great.

 

Three more points. On we go to the Valley.

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It's the morning after the night before.

 

Hammond is really stepping up to the plate now, he was the backbone in our performance yesterday. Fonte was also immense, great to see him score. Lee Barnard's energy on their backline was crucial, his patience for the pass for Rickie's goal was outstanding, very cleverly done and a lovely instinctive finish.

 

It wasn't the best overall performance but there were moments of pure quality in there.

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Really enjoyed the game...well, second half anyway.

 

Thought the fat sheffield wednesday fan was great comedy value and made me laugh lots.

 

One question...what the bloody hell did guly do in front of the chapel stand?? From Itchen North it looked like he fell over his own feet...

 

He'd done the hard bit inchasing down and winning the ball. So he takes it to the bye line and as he places his left foot next to the ball he catches it with his toe, pushing it out. He got himself up to a round of cheers and acknowledged it was funny.

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He'd done the hard bit inchasing down and winning the ball. So he takes it to the bye line and as he places his left foot next to the ball he catches it with his toe, pushing it out. He got himself up to a round of cheers and acknowledged it was funny.

 

.....which he followed up by skilfully flicking the ball over a defender before turning him only to get fouled. Lovely bit of skill. I really think Guly will be a key player for us in the last few weeks of the season, whether as an impact sub or from the off. I also agree with a previous poster about Forte; he showed glimpses of why Adkins rates him.

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You expect me to moan so I won't let you down!

 

A win is a win for all that so I'll take it but beautiful game aficionados like me can forget it - it's down and dirty from here on in!

 

Nevertheless, it would be nice to see us win instyle at home just now and again but with luck I won't be giving a toss come May.

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one little thing about the crowd...it would be nice to see the folks in the Itchen Centre stay around long enough to clap the team off the pitch when they have won a big game. I know there are a lot of corporates round there but still....

 

Hey! I'm Itchen Centre and none of our group ever leaves until every player is down the tunnel. We clap those that deserve it and even call out "Well done, Rickie, old lad!" or Adam, Jose whoever deserves the accolades on the day.

 

We are the very model of thoroughly decent supporters. Agreed, there are a few who decide that there is nothing else worth watching after 75 minutes, we don't understand it either especially if we have to get up to let them through or they block our view.

 

And we certainly won't be singing "Can we play you every week" to Sheff W, by far the worst team we've seen down here for years - it'll be a blessing by the way if they don't need to come here again in the next 20 years.

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Why all the sniping?

 

I'm not sure people giving their opinions and perhaps being honest about our performance is sniping. I haven't seen anyone pronounce their unhappiness with the result, instead some have merely suggested we're still not firing on all cylinders.

 

As for my take, it certainly looked like a game we were never going to lose and I was also pretty confident as the game went on (despite playing poorly) we would eventually grind out a win. Poor Wednesday look like a team who are really struggling and they need to get their act together if they are not to fall in to Div 4 (that said, there is a lot of sh*te beneath them).

 

Not sure what happened with us at the start of the game as the set up looked wrong, or the players interpreted incorrectly what NA was looking for. We struggled for width, Chaplow looked too far forward and we couldn't find another player when passing. Someone has already suggested it may have been the diamond, but whatever it was it wasn't working. On the positive side the defence looked strong with Jaidi making up for some errors with a bit of brain and brawn.

 

Harding gave us options going forward, but too often lacked support as the wide men were drawn inside. Barnard worked his socks off and was in their faces from the word go (he had a snidey kick out in the very first few minutes!!) and Lambert seems to be regaining his confidence (looked a clinical finish from our seats). Good to see Guly coming off the bench and Wednesday didn't know what to do with him.

 

We seemed to be smouldering as opposed to being on fire.

 

That said 3 points once again and two clawed back on Huddersfield is a good afternoon's work. Something similar due to a Posh draw tomorrow would be good.

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Just back home after a clean stopout! I was dreading looking up the score as I had a bad feeling: managed to get the first 20 minutes on the internet before I went out last night and it was all a bit hoof-ball although SW didn't seem to offer much. Still, 3 points and sounds like a good Ricky goal.

 

Now off to pack my kit for our afternoon match. Hope I get off the bench today...

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It's the morning after the night before.

 

Hammond is really stepping up to the plate now, he was the backbone in our performance yesterday. Fonte was also immense, great to see him score. Lee Barnard's energy on their backline was crucial, his patience for the pass for Rickie's goal was outstanding, very cleverly done and a lovely instinctive finish.

 

It wasn't the best overall performance but there were moments of pure quality in there.

 

 

For this, read 'deflected shot' fell nicely for the main man, who scored a cracker!

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Of course cautious, it is very tight - couple of bad results and will look a lot different.

It is not just 4 wins in a row which is good, last ten - 7 wins, 2 draws, 1 defeat (and the defeat was meant to be one of the best performances!)

Disagree about looking like a slip yesterday, I often get nervy at games and never doubted a win during game yesterday.

An opinion not shared by Dave Merrington. Watching from the Kingsland and listening on an earpiece I was impressed by the commentary and the analysis. Merrington's view was that either team could have scored in the first hour and that it would probably take a dead ball situation to break it. He was concerned that this could be a slip by Saints and was of the view that Saints were fortunate it went their way as it could easily have gone the other. With a good view of our penalty area, you could see that Rob Jones was a real threat every time he came up for corners or free kicks. It was only after Fonte's goal that we seemed to really get on fire and the second goal was a tribute to hard work by Barnard as well as Rickie's clinical strike, but until then a slip remained on the cards.

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Ground out another 3-points, poor 1st half great 20-min spell which we scored 2 & could have had another couple. Lallana & chamberlain looked a class apart at times. Fonte looked solid as a rock at the back & a good header for the vital 1st goal, what a great strike by Lambert for the 2nd. SW were poor & came for a point, they showed good commitment & closed us down from start to finish, but really offered very little attacking wise they look a very poor outfit at the moment & are in real danger. At times we looked sloppy & in the last 20-mins gave the ball away in dodgy positions, gave to many easy free kicks around the box. A better team than SW could have made us pay but at the end of the day we got what we wanted. Icing on the cake to Huddersfield s draw against Swindon. Just need MK to do them & us a favour on Monday. onwards & upwards

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Ground out another 3-points, poor 1st half great 20-min spell which we scored 2 & could have had another couple. Lallana & chamberlain looked a class apart at times. Fonte looked solid as a rock at the back & a good header for the vital 1st goal, what a great strike by Lambert for the 2nd. SW were poor & came for a point, they showed good commitment & closed us down from start to finish, but really offered very little attacking wise they look a very poor outfit at the moment & are in real danger. At times we looked sloppy & in the last 20-mins gave the ball away in dodgy positions, gave to many easy free kicks around the box. A better team than SW could have made us pay but at the end of the day we got what we wanted. Icing on the cake to Huddersfield s draw against Swindon. Just need MK to do them & us a favour on Monday. onwards & upwards

 

That was my only worry as they had 4 CB's on the pitch and could have got ont he end of one of them. Chaplow was giving them away way too much for my liking !

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I was part of a "Violent assault" and the stewards were informed to eject all parties involved. I spent 45 minutes with St Johns being treated and was promtly ejected afterwards. I made my disgust clear and will take up my issues with SFC at 9am on Monday. I have plenty of witnesses who will confirm the goings on.

 

If thats the case that you have not done anything wrong, ask the club for details of the other people and report them for assault, they should get 6 months if recent sentencing is anything to go by, and I'll have no regrets that thugs that will assault others are sent down.

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I will happily take this game and the first half happily. Not completely at our best in the first half, but we were professional and had cut out the individual errors. Wednesday set their stall out and did a pretty good job at the back, considering all the problems they have had. Saints did exactly what was needed in the second half and with the amount of games we have left to play, this is the only practical way of doing it. Adkins is doing so many things now that were just not happening before, the classy Fonte goal being the prime example. I did not realise how good Ricky's goal was until seeing the replays, real quality that few in this division would pull off. Really impressed with the back line, especially in getting forward which was partly due to Wednesday's generosity.

 

We have a steady 2 games a week coming up and it will cost us the way we play, we just cannot expect to win every game with our set up. Having two very attacking wingers in Lallana and Oxo leaves 2 in midfield trying to hold the fort and against other teams that will expose the full backs more. Anyone who really gets at our midfield will have a good chance unless the wingers are exerting enough pressure to pin them back. This was the type of professional performance we have been crying out for in this position and bodes well for the future.

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You expect me to moan so I won't let you down!

 

A win is a win for all that so I'll take it but beautiful game aficionados like me can forget it - it's down and dirty from here on in!

 

Nevertheless, it would be nice to see us win instyle at home just now and again but with luck I won't be giving a toss come May.

 

We'd all like to see our team play like Barca but getting out of theis league is all that matters and if winning ugly does it so be it.

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I went away feeling quite comfortable about the way we won. First half a lot of things 'nearly' came off...little flicks that didn't quite find their target and we were a little cautious in the first quarter. When we are cautious (understandable and probably team orders from Adkins) it seems like we don't get the run of the ball.

 

In the second half I thought we'd got them sussed and started to force things our way...we really did play all the football that was on show. I also think everyone played well...Kelvin didn't put a foot wrong - Radhi was immense, the backs did everything well...Fonte just at his imperious best and even Lallana playing at around 80% is too good for most teams. Hammond has got better and better since returning from injury - it can be more fluent but this was a good performance, a professional performance.

Thought Forte added something when he came on and look forward to more and Guly showed the best and worst with the flick that got the player booked as he skinned him and the er ..well - whatever it was!

 

Crowd was superb today...my throat still hurts - to me the only downside was a ref who had a yellow shirt on under his kit but at least he didn't book any Saints player suspect he'll have some explaining to do to his bosses who watched on Sky...

 

Onwards & upwards...we're well placed and playing better than a lot are giving credit for. It's in our own hands now :)

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Not seen it mentioned particularly but the reason we struggled in the first half was that Adkins went for his 'diamond' formation, meaning that neither Lallana or Chamberlain had any time or room and we had zero width. Fair play to him that after thirty-five minutes he realised it wasn't working and switched back to 4-4-2, whereupon both of them starting ripping into their defence and suddenly we were on top. There might be moments in tough away games that this formation works, but not at home against negative & poor teams. Once we got the formation sorted we never looked like losing. My MoM was Dean Hammond - worked his socks off and ran midfield.

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Not seen it mentioned particularly but the reason we struggled in the first half was that Adkins went for his 'diamond' formation, meaning that neither Lallana or Chamberlain had any time or room and we had zero width.

 

 

Not sure what happened with us at the start of the game as the set up looked wrong, or the players interpreted incorrectly what NA was looking for. We struggled for width, Chaplow looked too far forward and we couldn't find another player when passing. Someone has already suggested it may have been the diamond, but whatever it was it wasn't working.

 

Soemone else mentioned the diamond not working and it was something that certainly struck me, in that our set up at the start was not quite right.

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Good game yesterday. 1st half was a bit flat, but I still felt like it was only a matter of time before we broke them down and got a goal or two. Never felt in trouble. Important couple of days coming up. MK Dons to win tomorrow.

 

Also, we probably want Brighton to beat any teams around us from now on(except us of course).

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Not seen it mentioned particularly but the reason we struggled in the first half was that Adkins went for his 'diamond' formation, meaning that neither Lallana or Chamberlain had any time or room and we had zero width. Fair play to him that after thirty-five minutes he realised it wasn't working and switched back to 4-4-2, whereupon both of them starting ripping into their defence and suddenly we were on top. There might be moments in tough away games that this formation works, but not at home against negative & poor teams. Once we got the formation sorted we never looked like losing. My MoM was Dean Hammond - worked his socks off and ran midfield.

 

Quite right. Although we were on top during the narrow phase too. We tried something, it didn't work, we changed it, we won easily.

 

Great stuff. Next.

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Good game yesterday. 1st half was a bit flat, but I still felt like it was only a matter of time before we broke them down and got a goal or two. Never felt in trouble. Important couple of days coming up. MK Dons to win tomorrow.

 

Also, we probably want Brighton to beat any teams around us from now on(except us of course).

 

Can't help you there for a while. Our next 8 games are against teams currently in the bottom 9 (except Rochdale)

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Dan Harding stood out for me always made himself available when were going forward.

 

Agree 100% Toomer.

For me that was his best match for us ever.

 

He was so instrumental in unlocking their midfield that on occasion he found himself overlapping with our front men. Bringing back great memories of my favourite ever squads. They all have talisman left backs; Bridgey, phsyco and (who can forget) Dave Peach.

 

I felt that Megson did a good job of stifling us but as the clock ticked Dan grew in stature and stole the show.

 

Dan THE Man

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If thats the case that you have not done anything wrong, ask the club for details of the other people and report them for assault, they should get 6 months if recent sentencing is anything to go by, and I'll have no regrets that thugs that will assault others are sent down.

 

I dont want to take the "assault" any further and informed the police of that. My problem was that I was ejected and I feel even worse that the guy who kept the guy away from me whilst I was on the deck got kicked out too. Absolute madness.

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Great positive result and day; we didn't panic when we couldn't break down Sheffield Wednesday which I feel is important. We were patient and turned a few opportunities we created into goals, kept a clean sheet, didn't pick up any more yellow cards (especially for Chaplow and Hammond) and some of our competitors didn't fair so well. Lallana, Lambert, Oxo and Barnard all played well and with goals coming from lots of different players at the moment it must make it harder for the opposition to plan on closing us down, though Wednesday did seem to constrict us in the middle yesterday. It seemed we were playing a diamond midfield in the first half and created overlaps or more width in the second half. Or maybe it was my dodgy internet connection. We won, I'd have taken a 1-0 win before kick-off, and I'm happy.

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I dont want to take the "assault" any further and informed the police of that. My problem was that I was ejected and I feel even worse that the guy who kept the guy away from me whilst I was on the deck got kicked out too. Absolute madness.

 

Well I hope there is enough evidence for him to get prosecuted irrespective of your strange stance on the whole thing.

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I know the game was dead, but I liked the look of Forte when he came on. He didn't achieve a great deal, but he looked quick, was busy, strong and showed a decent touch. Bearing in mind we have him for three years these are positive signs IMO

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