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Never thought for a minute we were going to loose, enjoyed both goals in the pub full of Wednesday fans, Didn't think they were half as bad as there fans did but they were seriously lacking in the final third tonight. Solid performances through out the team Harding again looked quality him and Butters must be pretty much our best free signings. Quality told in the end, thought Barnards work rate was incredible and he took a hell of a beating from the wednesday back four!

 

More of the same on Tuesday, hoping franchise FC can manage a bore draw with Posh but either way it is in our hands and I'm feeling more confident by the game!

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Some people are saying that we didn't play well but that's nonsense - it may not have been pretty but we were composed and solid throughout and we made ourselves extremely difficult to play against.

 

I don't think we played that well. Plenty of misplaced passes in the first half, as well as a lack of fluidity between the players. It started to give Sheffield Wednesday some confidence as well. I am not one of the pessimistic supporters, but I would not say that we played particularly well with the ball and moving as a unit going forward. It was solid, workmanlike, and professional. Not too much to gripe about but we can be much better when in possession, both retaining it and creating chances. Our defence gives us the platform to not play too well and still win, and I think that was the case today. You could see the relief when we got the first goal. Anyway, used up my three posts for today now so I can't reply back but I still think we can play considerably better than that.

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Not really dodgy, we never looked like shipping a goal.

 

Second half though we really kicked off, all over Wednesday.

 

Dodgy in that we couldn't string together more than 2 passes and hoofed quite a lot - Adkins commented on that. 2nd half we got the ball down and passed it comfortably, and that led to us scoring our goals.

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The stats from the BBC site show how only one side were trying to win the game (the other came to spoil and stop us playing but failed).

 

 

 

Possession

  • Southampton 56%
  • Sheff Wed 44%

Attempts on target

  • Southampton 12
  • Sheff Wed 2

Attempts off target

  • Southampton 6
  • Sheff Wed 7

Corners

  • Southampton 7
  • Sheff Wed 1

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Dodgy in that we couldn't string together more than 2 passes and hoofed quite a lot - Adkins commented on that. 2nd half we got the ball down and passed it comfortably, and that led to us scoring our goals.

 

We hoofed, i agree, but it is difficult attempting to break down a side that was so commited to not letting us get passed 10-20 yards into their own half. The second half yes i agree, we looked far far better and could have easily scored more than 3 goals. But it wasn't really dodgy, it was just not up to the same level of quality as we showed in the first half.

 

I don't remember Wednesday ever really looking like they could score TBH, i was distinctly unimpressed by a side supposedly trying to get out of this league.

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It was a good solid performance, nothing special - but we never looked in trouble at any stage.

 

Tactically I felt it wasn't right in the first half - everything was too congested and we were kind of playing into Wednesdays hands and making it easy for them to defend against us, but on the other side they rarely threatened and we were solid and controlled at the back. - lots of pretty possession and triangles from us, but little impact in the first 45.

 

2nd half started slow...but we eventually started picking it up and pushed Wednesday back - notably by getting wide and getting Oxo running at players down the flanks, the corner which lead to the goal was a direct result of our wing play.

 

That knocked the stuffing out of Wednesday and from that moment on the game was won, great to get the 2nd so soon after as it really made it a comfortable end for us. Barnard's work-rate is immense and what he did to get the ball to Lambo was fantastic - but boy, what a finish by Lambo - just watched it back on the TV to see if it's as good as I thought it was....you betcha.

 

Overall nothing to scream home about - but Wednesday are in a false position, they have far better players than their league standing shows and could have potentially been a threat - but we were professional and solid throughout and the result was never in doubt.

 

Great day for us.

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The game was probably a fairly decent reflection of most of our season. Not firing on all cylinders, fairly solid at the back, and a few moments of quality get us the win. People will moan that we aren't playing very well, and they are entitled to do that, but I am very happy with our ability to dig out results more often than not. We are right in the thick of this and whether we are playing or not, every weekend and Tuesday from now until May has something of interest going on.

 

I was worried about Sheffield Wednesday reacting to their recent poor form tonight, but it didn't happen. I hope the same happens with Charlton on Tuesday.

 

Pretty fair assessment - at this stage of the season results matter far more than performances. Only played well for about 20 minutes early in the 2nd half, but a few moments of quality were enough to win it.

 

Watching on TV (unfortunately sober as recovering from a 'flu bug) it looked as though Lallana spent a lot of time away from the left flank - Harding was very often the "out ball" on the left flank. It also seemed to me that Harding gets forward and supports his winger much more than Butterfield does. Those little runs that the overlapping fullbacks do help the winger if he decides to cut inside, as it draws one of their opposing defenders away from the winger. It was quite noticeable that both Lallana and Chamberlain were up against 2 men most of the times they got the ball in the opposition half, at least until Wednesday had to start chasing the game. It was also noticeable that Chamberlain didn't get Butterfield overlapping him any where near as often, and he ended up doing it by himself, to be fair he nearly scored a belter in the 2nd half.

 

It also seemed to me that with with Gobern out for another 2 games and therefore no natural replacement for either of them on the bench, Chaplow and particularly Hammond put themselves about considerably less than normal in terms of closing down opposition players. If I'm right in my understanding they are both close (3 bookings to be precise) to a 2 match ban, and they are both on a tightrope until the 2nd Sunday in April, when the amnesty kicks in. According to the Football League site they are both on 7 yellows and Saints have 4 games between now and the amnesty date. So they need to ensure they pick up no more than 2 yellows each in the next 4 games, although Gobern will be available again for the last 2 games before the amnesty.

 

I know there has been much speculation about Saints signing an "emergency loan" Central Midfielder, possibly Brian Howard. What's the realistic likelihood of getting someone in, and if not, what options do we have in central midfield? Could we put Dickson in there? Or Butterfield with Richardson going to right back? Looks like Schneiderlin is out for some time, if not the rest of the season. The OS lists Callum McNish as a central midfielder, anyone seen him play and able to say whether he could slot into Hammond's/Chaplow's boots?

 

Central midfield is the engine of the team, and I fear that if we don't have options there it will hamper our charge for the line.

 

http://www.football-league.co.uk/page/Discipline/0,,10794~201010280~25,00.html

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enjoyed both goals in the pub full of Wednesday fans, Didn't think they were half as bad as there fans did

 

I thought they were a very poor side. They only had one hope from the game and that was 0-0. They looked league 2 standard to me. If they don't improve they will be relegated.

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They gave us no space in the first half and I'm not sure what system we were playing but quite a few times Alex and Adam seemed to be playing almost on the same side ? Second half we pressed them a bit harder and it seemed to work a few hairy moments from jaidi but we were never really troubled ! I'm putting money on a peterboro win Monday they will not win if I do !

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I thought they were a very poor side. They only had one hope from the game and that was 0-0. They looked league 2 standard to me. If they don't improve they will be relegated.

 

I think that's a distinct possibility - especially now they've got that idiot Megson in charge.

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They gave us no space in the first half and I'm not sure what system we were playing but quite a few times Alex and Adam seemed to be playing almost on the same side ? Second half we pressed them a bit harder and it seemed to work a few hairy moments from jaidi but we were never really troubled ! I'm putting money on a peterboro win Monday they will not win if I do !

 

Looked like a Diamond to me.

 

Hammond sitting - Lallana at the point of the diamond, Chaplow on the right tucked in and Oxo tucked in on the left.

 

Very narrow and as I said above, we played into Wednesdays hands a bit.

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It was a very poor first half overall, perhaps because there is a lot of pressure on the players, pressure which is exacerbated by the growing number of games we have in hand over teams above us who already have the points on the board. The situation was heightened today because we played the match later than most, but at least we knew that we could gain two points on Huddersfield today with a win.

 

There appears to be a pattern developing over the past few matches, that we begin nervously, lack fluidity and invite pressure onto ourselves during the first half. The players are tentative and the crowd is subdued. Then Adkins must either calm them with a metaphorical arm around their shoulders, or galvanise them into action with a kick up the backside, because we often come out the second half almost a different team.

 

SW, who had gradually come more and more into the game towards the last 20 minutes of the half, must have been told that it was in their hands to go and produce an upset, because they came out to the second half all guns blazing. But we have an experienced defence, who do not flap and they weathered the storm and provided the base for our own midfield and strikers to gain a stranglehold on the match. A great corner provided Fonte with the chance to lose his marker and head in a goal, which steadied the nerves and confidence and belief began to grow. A good assist from Barnard, lively throughout, gave Lambert the chance he needed to continue his recent return to form and place the ball to the keeper's right and secure the three points. SW hadn't looked as if they had enough ammunition to overturn a two goal lead and indeed as the half continued towards its conclusion, it was Saints that were looking the more likely to increase the scoreline.

 

So altogether the important thing was the three points, but the added bonus is the clean sheet, the closing in on Huddersfield and the rare winning of a televised game. Maybe with the next televised game, we ought to be thinking in terms of those we have had under Adkins, as apart from a loss against ManUre where we impressed all the neutrals with our flair and dominated them for 70 minutes before their star subs tipped it their way, the other matches have been an exciting draw against Posh and this win.

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If we had let in a goal, then come from behind, I'd have turned my £11.25 stake into £95. Damn you Saints, win, but win in the way we're used to, coming back from behind!

 

Apart from that, brilliant day :)

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Really enjoyed the game...well, second half anyway.

 

Thought the fat sheffield wednesday fan was great comedy value and made me laugh lots.

 

One question...what the bloody hell did guly do in front of the chapel stand?? From Itchen North it looked like he fell over his own feet...

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Absolutely superb professional result , seemed comfortable, if not pretty, right from the off. Can't remember watching many Saints games ever where the entire match I was confident we would win,its a strange feeling.

 

personally I don't give a crap about winning the league. Allmi care about is auto promotion and that is solidly in our hands and that's all you can ask for really.

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We hoofed, i agree, but it is difficult attempting to break down a side that was so commited to not letting us get passed 10-20 yards into their own half. The second half yes i agree, we looked far far better and could have easily scored more than 3 goals. But it wasn't really dodgy, it was just not up to the same level of quality as we showed in the first half.

 

I don't remember Wednesday ever really looking like they could score TBH, i was distinctly unimpressed by a side supposedly trying to get out of this league.

 

Agree more or less, but that lad Osbourne had a right poke with his cut-in and left foot shot, plus that through ball that Kelvin had to sprint out and head from outside his area gave me a cold sweat. Overall tho, we were well worth the three points.

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Really enjoyed the game...well, second half anyway.

 

Thought the fat sheffield wednesday fan was great comedy value and made me laugh lots.

 

One question...what the bloody hell did guly do in front of the chapel stand?? From Itchen North it looked like he fell over his own feet...

 

He did...classic air shot and fell over !!!

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Really enjoyed the game...well, second half anyway.

 

Thought the fat sheffield wednesday fan was great comedy value and made me laugh lots.

 

One question...what the bloody hell did guly do in front of the chapel stand?? From Itchen North it looked like he fell over his own feet...

 

He went to Cross the ball, got his feet totally mixed up, missed the ball and fell on his arse - and it went for a GK.

 

thankfully we were 2-0 up!

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Really enjoyed the game...well, second half anyway.

 

Thought the fat sheffield wednesday fan was great comedy value and made me laugh lots.

 

One question...what the bloody hell did guly do in front of the chapel stand?? From Itchen North it looked like he fell over his own feet...

 

EXactly right.He fell over his feet as he tried to cross.

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Appreciate I'll sound like Nigel, but it's 3 points, a clean sheet and two good goals scored.

 

We move on to Charlton on Tuesday, lets keep it up!

 

Worth noting that the Liebherr family were well represented in the Directors Box today too. A good sign perhaps?

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Jose and butterfield were are best players today with good performances also from lallana and banard.

 

AOC was poor today as was chaplow (who's normally very good).

 

Went to the game today and was happy with the noise we made much better from us fans.

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not a vintage performance by any means but decent. Wednesday were poor and never looked like scoring, the only question was would we. Once we did the result was never in doubt and we played some decent stuff. Another comfortable in unspectacular win and three points in tuesday mean automatic promotion is a real possibility, well done lads. Barnard, hammond and Fonte were very very good. A word on Jonathan "jonno quick" Forte, got a feeling this lad will be a Saints legend.

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High five to the "Saints Fan" who smashed me in the face with a perfect snakey right hook, busting my nose, puffing up my lips and getting me kicked out. Thats what I duly love about us Saints. I'll be sure to see him him same place next week.... Oh wait... No I won't.

 

What were you doing to warrent this? I saw three people thrown out of the Northam today, not sure what they did though, seemed pretty minor whatever it was.

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Great win, job well done.

 

At the end of the 1st half, I felt we let them into the game, but in the 2nd half we took better control of the game. We're still not scoring goals for fun a la Peterboro, but we have a solid, patient team, that will keep working their socks off for 90 minutes. I think I heard the commentators note that as well: that if we kept the same amount of possession in the 2nd half as in the 1st, we'd surely create some good chances...

 

Kelvin looked good on a few occasions coming out to claim crosses. Lamberts ball control was excellent for the early episode that lead to a booking to their centre back.

 

League table gets increasingly interesting every week. Bournemouth collapsing, Huddersfield dropping points here and there...

 

PS. If you need a reminder of how things could have been (and more often than not have been in the last 6-7 years) just skim through this utterly depressing thread: http://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=148019&st=0 ... I really do feel for those fans, 'cause their team is truly shambolic and they know it...

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He was a moron, I made my opinion clear as I always do and am happy for people to tell me to my face when they feel I am so... Ten minutes later he f*****g smashed me in the face with hardest right hook I have ever recieved (been a few).

 

So why were you thrown out? You must have done something.

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He was a moron, I made my opinion clear as I always do and am happy for people to tell me to my face when they feel I am so... Ten minutes later he f*****g smashed me in the face with hardest right hook I have ever recieved (been a few).

 

Why did you get ejected for getting a smack? Had the 'argument' finished for 10 minutes and then the smack came randomly?

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What were you doing to warrent this? I saw three people thrown out of the Northam today, not sure what they did though, seemed pretty minor whatever it was.

 

Would you warrant this by any Saints fan on another?

 

You would have seen the f*****g pr*ck and his mate ejected, along with myself with a face p*ssing blood. Congratulations to him, he can snake someone and make him bleed, as can my little brother.

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Would you warrant this by any Saints fan on another?

 

You would have seen the f*****g pr*ck and his mate ejected, along with myself with a face p*ssing blood. Congratulations to him, he can snake someone and make him bleed, as can my little brother.

 

I saw some chunky geezer in a white top and some other fella get ejected. What i dont understand is why you were thrown out for being punched. I am not saying this is warranted but was this really a case of of someone sneaking up beind you and punching you? What did you do to warrent ejection?

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I saw some chunky geezer in a white top and some other fella get ejected. What i dont understand is why you were thrown out for being punched. I am not saying this is warranted but was this really a case of of someone sneaking up beind you and punching you? What did you do to warrent ejection?

 

I was part of a "Violent assault" and the stewards were informed to eject all parties involved. I spent 45 minutes with St Johns being treated and was promtly ejected afterwards. I made my disgust clear and will take up my issues with SFC at 9am on Monday. I have plenty of witnesses who will confirm the goings on.

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