Winning every game,maybe a must

[doddisalegend]

Are the two points that

 

a) we will win our games in hand

b) our rivals will **** up anytime soon

 

based on any actual facts or just gut feelings? It seems there are a lot of ifs and buts to the arguments on this thread. It's so much like last season were people kept insisting the play offs were reachable (how'd that work out?) games in hand, form on our side blah, blah. Faith isn't the same as fact.

 

Having said that we're not out of this by a long shot as long as we keep winning. Truth is we might not need to win every game but I would really like the team to play like we do.

[Charlie Wayman]

Bloody Colchester, Bloody Huddersfield looks liek we'll be in play-offs at best unless these burgers start losing. Why can't they effing lose now and then like everyone else? Miserable sods.

[Thedelldays]

Bloody Colchester, Bloody Huddersfield looks liek we'll be in play-offs at best unless these burgers start losing. Why can't they effing lose now and then like everyone else? Miserable sods.

 

seriously...do you actually follow saints at all...?

[Leicestersaint]

I certainly want us to avoid the lotterty of the play offs - to me it is essential to get promtoed this year and to be sure of that we have to finish in the top two.

 

We will certainly have to have a very good run up to the end of the season - I would think we should be OK with 28 more points - but we may need more if Peterborough carry on as they are.

[alpine_saint]

Are the two points that

 

a) we will win our games in hand

b) our rivals will **** up anytime soon

 

based on any actual facts or just gut feelings? It seems there are a lot of ifs and buts to the arguments on this thread. It's so much like last season were people kept insisting the play offs were reachable (how'd that work out?) games in hand, form on our side blah, blah. Faith isn't the same as fact.

 

Having said that we're not out of this by a long shot as long as we keep winning. Truth is we might not need to win every game but I would really like the team to play like we do.

 

Post of the day.

[Ken Tone]

Anyone who thinks we will need to win all our remaining games to secure a top two spot is living in cloud cuckoo land. Peterboro and Huddersfield play each other and also both will have other set backs along the way. For either of these two teams to win all their remaining fixtures would be a miracle - it's not going to happen. We need to keep our heads and take one game at a time. I'm sure Adkins is sensible enough to realise this and that he'll be impressing this on the players. Start to heap unnecessary pressure on ourselves and it will go pear-shaped so a bit of perspective is what's required.

 

You called?

 

Winning all our remaining games may be an unnecessary target, and an even harder one to meet, since we still have to play Brighton away, but with the way Peterboro and Huddersfield are going we will have to win damn near all.

 

Btw those who quote bookies' odds for promotion as if this gives a good indication of likely success, forget that bookies aren't simply predicting likelihood. They look at expected gains and losses, which take into account the amount bet on an event as well. So any club with a large following will almost automatically have short odds for promotion, because their large number of fans will put a lot of money on it.

[lethallee]

Last season Leeds were in 2nd position with 71 points after 35 games looking dead certs for automatic promotion.

They then lost 6 of the last 11 games winning the other 5. They ended up with 86 points and only just finishing in 2nd place. They had a couple of injuries to important players and with pressure intensifying as season drew to a close they almost threw it away. This season there are 6 teams within 10 points of each other, albeit with various games in hand, and the pressure of winning every week to stay in the mix is massive. We don't need to win every game but the team who handles the pressure best and not choke will gain automatic promotion.

[Lord Duckhunter]

I think we have to win all our home games and hopefully we'll get enough points on the road to sneak up. Although they're unbeaten this year Huddersfield are not convincing, my mates a supporter and he was more confident last year. Peterbourough are the ones to watch, but then Boscombe were a month a go. I just wish we could put a bit of pressure on Brighton a couple of slip ups with them still to play and we'll see what they are made of. As Adkins said on saturday they are so near and yet so far. They aren't as good as Leeds were and they had an awful finish to last season.

[Dark Munster]

Not winning every game could possibly be not a necessity.

 

Not winning every game can never be a necessity.

[Scudamore]

Good run of form in final quarter > good run of form in third quarter

[Lets B Avenue]

Ah yes forgot that was on TV, and other than that ?

 

The Semi-Final against Franchise FC.

 

(still cant get those blo ody smilies to work)

[Lets B Avenue]

Anyone who thinks we will need to win all our remaining games to secure a top two spot is living in cloud cuckoo land. QUOTE]

 

Who would live in a land of Cuckoos? (Smilie not available)

[Window Cleaner]

Winning 9 out of 12 will do the trick, maybe 8 and a draw who knows.Only 3 main stumbling blocks left though unlessCharlton have a sudden revival which probably won't happen.Can't believe that over 1/4 of votants on the Echo poll think that we will not obtain promotion at all...miserable bastards.

[Barry the Badger]

Winning 9 out of 12 will do the trick, maybe 8 and a draw who knows.Only 3 main stumbling blocks left though unlessCharlton have a sudden revival which probably won't happen.Can't believe that over 1/4 of votants on the Echo poll think that we will not obtain promotion at all...miserable bastards.

 

Miserable bastards? Or just ground down by the last 7 years? I am pretty optimistic when it comes to Saints, and even I am nervous, it's going to be exciting though one way or another.

[bristolterrier]

It never seems to help us. I don't think people make enough of it on here, it's always sack a manager, buy a new team, sign this player get rid of that one. But all we tend to see is teams with far fewer resources outperform us. I know Leeds found it tough because every team playing them treated it like a huge game and raised their performance. Add TV cameras and they raise it a bit more. Even Fulham all those years ago in L1 with the big spending struggled initially as everyone wanted to beat them.

 

We went out and signed a league 1 allstars effectively, so I'm not surprised teams raise it and want to put us in our place. We've had some dodgy performances of course, but we've also had a lot of teams playing out of their skin against us. A lot of our players aren't used to winning things, they're lower league players, so obviously a history of success and dealing with expectation isn't there. Take Lambert, good player, scored for fun for a few seasons, but this was the first season he started at a club expected to win the league. Throw in all the off the field changes and I think we've done fairly well.

 

Why lose sleep over other teams performance? Nothing we can do about it. Saying 'we should have signed player X' just because they do well for a rival doesn't help, we can't sign the best players of every rival. Sooner or later we'll have to lay off and actually give it some time and patience.

 

Besides the TV and game raising problem, look at our stadium and pitch. Most teams enjoy visiting, yet we've got a good home record. Then look at Brightons. I'm not surprised theirs is so good, I can't think of any team wanting to play there. It's a horrible experience for players and fans, but they're the only team used to it, so they win game after game.

 

 

 

 

"Teams raise their game against us" "Teams have fewer resources than us" "It,s tough because every team treats playing us as a huge game" "We signed the League 1 allstars" "Teams play out of their skin against us" "Look at our stadium and pitch" "No team wants to play at Brighton its horrible so they always win" Just listen to yourself,no wonder every other fan in the third division calls you lot the new L666s Utd.And by the way you do not have a history of success whilst we do.Unbelievable tosh.

[Matthew Le God]

And by the way you do not have a history of success whilst we do.Unbelievable tosh.

 

In the last 50 years Saints have a better record than the Terriers.

 

As for your other points... many opposition League One managers have reinforced the view in interview that it is their biggest game playing Saints and you can't argue that Saints don't have large resources.

[bristolterrier]

In the last 50 years Saints have a better record than the Terriers.

 

As for your other points... many opposition League One managers have reinforced the view in interview that it is their biggest game playing Saints and you can't argue that Saints don't have large resources.

 

 

 

 

Sorry,didn't realise "history" meant the last 50 years.Silly me.For the record;

 

South Coast Club;

FA Cup Winners 1976

Paint pot 2010

Tennants Caledonian Cup 1976 ???

Trofeo Ciudad de Vigo 1983 (WTF!)

 

Little Old Huddersfield Town;

Champions of England 1923,1924,1925.

FA Cup Winners 1922.

[NickG]

did you enjoy those games?

[doddisalegend]

"Teams raise their game against us" "Teams have fewer resources than us" "It,s tough because every team treats playing us as a huge game" "We signed the League 1 allstars" "Teams play out of their skin against us" "Look at our stadium and pitch" "No team wants to play at Brighton its horrible so they always win" Just listen to yourself,no wonder every other fan in the third division calls you lot the new L666s Utd.And by the way you do not have a history of success whilst we do.Unbelievable tosh.

 

Wierdly enough this is a saints board for saints fans. So we disscuss many different opinions on err saints amazingly we actually think our club is pretty great and most other clubs well.......aren't. Which is why I find it kind of strange that fans of other clubs come on here (not only to read but actually comment) and get upset about the things that are said. I'm pretty sure if I could be arsed to go on a hudders message board I'd find plenty of crap posted there too. The fact you got upset enough to comment on our board speaks more about you than us.

Edited 18 March, 2011 by doddisalegend

[The9]

Sorry,didn't realise "history" meant the last 50 years.Silly me.For the record;

 

South Coast Club;

FA Cup Winners 1976

Paint pot 2010

Tennants Caledonian Cup 1976 ???

Trofeo Ciudad de Vigo 1983 (WTF!)

 

Little Old Huddersfield Town;

Champions of England 1923,1924,1925.

FA Cup Winners 1922.

 

Well done, but that 1925 change in the offside law from 3 defenders to 2 and Herbert Chapman leaving really messed you lot up didn't it ?

 

Strange to think the last time you won anything the pitch wasn't even marked like it is today. My grandad's 90 this year and he's too young to remember Huddersfield winning anything.

[Kingsbridge Saint]

Sorry,didn't realise "history" meant the last 50 years.Silly me.For the record;

 

South Coast Club;

FA Cup Winners 1976

Paint pot 2010

Tennants Caledonian Cup 1976 ???

Trofeo Ciudad de Vigo 1983 (WTF!)

 

Little Old Huddersfield Town;

Champions of England 1923,1924,1925.

FA Cup Winners 1922.

 

Meanwhile back in the real world you were sh1t last season when it mattered and are going to choke again this season. Really not worried about you Northern gravy boys, just Peterborough

[bender]

Huddersfield will start to drop points for me. They were so lucky to win last weekend and on Tuesday and clearly miss Pilkington. Posh are the worry - theyre winning comfortably. However so are MK Dons and they meet next. We need to keep winning.

[SaintRichmond]

Anyone who thinks we will need to win all our remaining games to secure a top two spot is living in cloud cuckoo land. Peterboro and Huddersfield play each other and also both will have other set backs along the way. For either of these two teams to win all their remaining fixtures would be a miracle - it's not going to happen. We need to keep our heads and take one game at a time. I'm sure Adkins is sensible enough to realise this and that he'll be impressing this on the players. Start to heap unnecessary pressure on ourselves and it will go pear-shaped so a bit of perspective is what's required.

 

Very sound, BUT

 

We ARE "suspect" in some vital positiond due to injury's/suspensions etc, yet we have NOT brought anyone in

 

THAT, IMHO, is sheer folly by " I shall not spend on NEW players, loanees or permanent " Cortese, and that purely MONEY decision, will come back to haunt us very shortly

[Window Cleaner]

Very sound, BUT

 

We ARE "suspect" in some vital positiond due to injury's/suspensions etc, yet we have NOT brought anyone in

 

THAT, IMHO, is sheer folly by " I shall not spend on NEW players, loanees or permanent " Cortese, and that purely MONEY decision, will come back to haunt us very shortly

 

Perhaps we haven't got any money? I'm sure that we'll have whatever is required in the close season for our campaign in the NPC.

[SaintRichmond]

Perhaps we haven't got any money? I'm sure that we'll have whatever is required in the close season for our campaign in the NPC.

 

You are assuming Promotion This season ??? It's NOT nailed on, and could well not happen because Coretese does not get cover for players that are injured/suspended

 

And I doubt he will spend ANYTHING if we are still stuck in Div 1 NEXT season

[Window Cleaner]

You are assuming Promotion This season ??? It's NOT nailed on, and could well not happen because Coretese does not get cover for players that are injured/suspended

 

And I doubt he will spend ANYTHING if we are still stuck in Div 1 NEXT season

 

If we don't get promotion...well then I guess we'll be rolling in shedloads of cash due to the sale of Ox,Fonte,Morgan,Rickie and Adam to name but a few. Mark my words if we fail to accede to the level above not one of them will be here come August.

Only Morgan is injured and we have a bit part player suspended, we have all the players we need to finish off our campaign.

[John B]

You are assuming Promotion This season ??? It's NOT nailed on, and could well not happen because Coretese does not get cover for players that are injured/suspended

 

And I doubt he will spend ANYTHING if we are still stuck in Div 1 NEXT season

 

Yes we will spend money from the Sale of OXO either in the Championsip or League 1

 

Although he is a good player OXO is not winning enough games for us at the moment and perhaps he should have been sold in January and the club should have invested in two or thee players in order to get promotion.

[NickG]

if only we replaced our squad every transfer window we would be fine!

 

you do realise this isn't fantasy football?

[Professor]

Looking at our run in there are a few games that recent form suggests we will struggle to win. Away to Orient, whose last 8 games are 7 wins and a draw at Huddersfield? MK Dons, unbeaten in the last 6 and currently on 4 straight wins including a win over Brighton? Brentford, who beat us 2-0 at the SMS in Dec? If we win those 3 games and beat Brighton at Withdean, we will certainly deserve to go up!