Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 It's hypothetical but I would think that would be the strongest pairing defensively. Are you going to the driving range with him today or is he busy elsewhere doing something else contracty-like?
derry Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 Are you going to the driving range with him today or is he busy elsewhere doing something else contracty-like? I've not heard a thing today but I didn't really expect to, as my son is working and the loose arrangement was for sevenish this evening. I think Brian was going to contact him later on in the day. If anything is happening or either of them decide not to, it won't happen. My son isn't really that bothered about Saints or professional football, although he is sport minded. So he is not bothered either way as it makes no difference to him where Brian plays. Although if Brian joined Saints he would probably use my spare ST when he was available.
scott_saints Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 My son's fourth best mate is Brian Howard. He thinks it isn't happening.
Window Cleaner Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 My son's fourth best mate is Brian Howard. He thinks it isn't happening. Perhaps if Howard signed for us he could move up a couple of places in your son's friend hierarchy?
derry Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 My son's fourth best mate is Brian Howard. He thinks it isn't happening. I think maybe as there was an approach last week but after costs were looked at things didn't progress, although to be fair, Brian did say he would know more towards the end of this week which said to me that nobody was pushing at either end.
CanadaSaint Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 I think maybe as there was an approach last week but after costs were looked at things didn't progress, although to be fair, Brian did say he would know more towards the end of this week which said to me that nobody was pushing at either end. That would be a little surprising wouldn't it, Dave? Costs - as in wages - shouldn't be that big a stumbling block if we really need the player because they're pro-rated for the balance of the season. Perhaps it's the insurance or Reading are looking for a fee, or something else. Strange.
Soggy Bottom Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 In which case we must definitely be signing Frimpong as he was he was the other player linked earlier this week and NA didn't mention him. Can't we get both, just in case we get into the play offs, can we loan 2.
Window Cleaner Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 That would be a little surprising wouldn't it, Dave? Costs - as in wages - shouldn't be that big a stumbling block if we really need the player because they're pro-rated for the balance of the season. Perhaps it's the insurance or Reading are looking for a fee, or something else. Strange. Not at all surprising really, why would we want to pay any significant part of 12/15K a week for a back-up midfielder?
CanadaSaint Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 Not at all surprising really, why would we want to pay any significant part of 12/15K a week for a back-up midfielder? I said "if we really need the player", which many think we do.
Ken Tone Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 I said "if we really need the player", which many think we do. The question may well be if we need this player that much. Is someone who can't get into Reading's team worth £15k a week, or might we get someone better or as good, for less money? Maybe we're shopping around before we decide either way, perhaps between Howard and one or two others? Being rich doesn't mean you don't want value for money.
Saint Charlie Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 The question may well be if we need this player that much. Is someone who can't get into Reading's team worth £15k a week, or might we get someone better or as good, for less money? Maybe we're shopping around before we decide either way, perhaps between Howard and one or two others? Being rich doesn't mean you don't want value for money. Agree with this, Howard is good but not good enough to break the wage structure for.
Mustapha Fag Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 if Scott_Saints has a son he will be at pre-school, unless they have accelerated the aging process in Fair Oak
Window Cleaner Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 The question may well be if we need this player that much. Is someone who can't get into Reading's team worth £15k a week, or might we get someone better or as good, for less money? Maybe we're shopping around before we decide either way, perhaps between Howard and one or two others? Being rich doesn't mean you don't want value for money. This is exactly what I meant, we have our own players,all of whom will be on lesser salaries than Howard,NA is very group minded and I really can't see him taking a player for more money who we just don't need. If the bloke was coming from the EPL perhaps but a Reading reserve for a shedload ?.....no thanks.
Window Cleaner Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 I heard he wants 40k a week! wouldn't even get 40K a month at SMS.
derry Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 That would be a little surprising wouldn't it, Dave? Costs - as in wages - shouldn't be that big a stumbling block if we really need the player because they're pro-rated for the balance of the season. Perhaps it's the insurance or Reading are looking for a fee, or something else. Strange. I don't think Brian's contract is at a level which is any different to the likes of Fonte, Lambert, Lallana etc. Some of the figures being quoted on here are really a waste of a post, It remains whether the approach was made as a result of the committee including Cortese or just an enquiry that was leaked but isn't being pursued. Up to 10pm last night there had been no change.
derry Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 (edited) That would be a little surprising wouldn't it, Dave? Costs - as in wages - shouldn't be that big a stumbling block if we really need the player because they're pro-rated for the balance of the season. Perhaps it's the insurance or Reading are looking for a fee, or something else. Strange. I've taken a close interest in this lad as he and his girlfriend / were friends of my son while he was still at Saints. He could pick locks with his left foot and direction/tactical etc wise he is streets ahead of anybody else at Saints. We haven't had a player with his range of passing for years, probably since MLT. He would make an enormous difference to our team play especially to Chamberlain, Lallana, Lambert and Barnard/Guly. We have no leadership on the field and he would lead and direct. Edited 17 March, 2011 by derry
Weston Saint Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 Sad to say it looks unlikely now. If Howard/Agent has not held talks with Saints yet despite enquiries to Reading last week (or the weekend at the latest) it may be terms could not be agreed with Reading and we are looking elsewhere. We have another week to find someone so no panic yet.
Saint Charlie Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 I've taken a close interest in this lad as he and his girlfriend / were friends of my son while he was still at Saints. He could pick locks with his left foot and direction/tactical etc wise he is streets ahead of anybody else at Saints. We haven't had a player with his range of passing for years, probably since MLT. He would make an enormous difference to our team play especially to Chamberlain, Lallana, Lambert and Barnard/Guly. We have no leadership on the field and he would lead and direct. These kind of claims do nobody any good. At the end of the day he is a good player but isn't a regular for Reading so lets not get carried away.
derry Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 Sad to say it looks unlikely now. If Howard/Agent has not held talks with Saints yet despite enquiries to Reading last week (or the weekend at the latest) it may be terms could not be agreed with Reading and we are looking elsewhere. We have another week to find someone so no panic yet. You may be right Ron but as I said before Brian did say he would know more by the end of the week which didn't sound like anybody was in a rush. He did say that Saints knew his current contract and he wasn't looking for an increase. I think there is an urgency on here that isn't there in the real world. I think if it was over I would know pretty soon after, that it wasn't going to happen. Thursday is still a week away as you say.
Saint Charlie Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 You may be right Ron but as I said before Brian did say he would know more by the end of the week which didn't sound like anybody was in a rush. He did say that Saints knew his current contract and he wasn't looking for an increase. I think there is an urgency on here that isn't there in the real world. I think if it was over I would know pretty soon after, that it wasn't going to happen. Thursday is still a week away as you say. Thursday is a week away but we have 2 games before then so if we are going to get someone in then it makes sense to have done it this week!
derry Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 These kind of claims do nobody any good. At the end of the day he is a good player but isn't a regular for Reading so lets not get carried away. He is a good player, but my comment stands as more a criticism of the content of the Saints team of Indians but no Chiefs. We need on field direction and he would supply that. He could well get back into Reading's team and has already played 22 games but was out through injury and Reading are doing well.
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 Is anyone seriously doubting that we need a player of his quality and with his leadership skills?
Saint Charlie Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 Is anyone seriously doubting that we need a player of his quality and with his leadership skills? No, just that he isn't going to be the only option! I'm sure Saints have quite a few players on their list!
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 Reading chronicle seem to think he is on the verge of joining us on loan although they may be as reliable as the echo for all I know. http://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/sport/roundup/articles/2011/03/17/51157-tabb-set-to-sign-new-deal-but-howard-on-verge-of-loan-move/
hypochondriac Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 No, just that he isn't going to be the only option! I'm sure Saints have quite a few players on their list! I think quality is the word. Haven't really been impressed with our signings (bar Chaplow) since last January.
Asaint4ever Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1366955/Southampton-close-deal-sign-Reading-midfielder-Howard.html?ito=feeds-newsxml Looks like could be true.
Window Cleaner Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1366955/Southampton-close-deal-sign-Reading-midfielder-Howard.html?ito=feeds-newsxml Looks like could be true. is there any update in that link from the exact same one given in post 222?
explorer saint Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1366955/Southampton-close-deal-sign-Reading-midfielder-Howard.html?ito=feeds-newsxml Looks like could be true. More interesting is that Norwich set to sign Mackail-Smith
Matthew Le God Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 Reading chronicle seem to think he is on the verge of joining us on loan although they may be as reliable as the echo for all I know. http://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/sport/roundup/articles/2011/03/17/51157-tabb-set-to-sign-new-deal-but-howard-on-verge-of-loan-move/ They use the phrase "reports suggest", thus only regurgitating the rumour from elsewhere.
Johnny Shearer Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 All the papers change their tune on transfers on a daily basis, so wouldnt believe any of it!
Appy Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 More interesting is that Norwich set to sign Mackail-Smith http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/norwich/9428228.stm Not happening.
trousers Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 So, in summary, this thread can be closed and filed alongside the Charlie Austin 24 pager?
david in sweden Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 Instead of Chaplow I assume? with Puncheon away, and Guly, Holmes and Schneiderlin all injured... it must be a case of AS WELL, as Chaplow.
derry Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 So, in summary, this thread can be closed and filed alongside the Charlie Austin 24 pager? You could well be right.
trousers Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 You could well be right. Time to dust off the Nicky Butt thread then....that hasn't seen the light of day for a while.....
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 It looks like it isn't going ahead. I'm guessing your son has had a chat with the boy Howard?
trousers Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 It looks like it isn't going ahead. In other words, Mr Cortese isn't interested in paying a few hundred thousand quid to help get us out of the division....? Said Trousers provocatively....
up and away Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 Sad to say it looks unlikely now. If Howard/Agent has not held talks with Saints yet despite enquiries to Reading last week (or the weekend at the latest) it may be terms could not be agreed with Reading and we are looking elsewhere. We have another week to find someone so no panic yet. I would not definitely say so, there is very little to thrash out for a loan. If Saints agree, it could happen very quickly. I expect we are looking elsewhere, but there's nothing to stop a last day deal for Howard.
dubai_phil Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 In other words, Mr Cortese isn't interested in paying a few hundred thousand quid to help get us out of the division....? Said Trousers provocatively.... Or....... You could have said, NC is really keen on spending a few hundred thousand to get us out of this league but his bosses aren't. There, I made your comment much more provocative
derry Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 I would not definitely say so, there is very little to thrash out for a loan. If Saints agree, it could happen very quickly. I expect we are looking elsewhere, but there's nothing to stop a last day deal for Howard. There is no doubt he would come if asked. It depends I suppose on other options and whether other targets want to come. Noone else would have Brian's reasons, living here, supporter, and wanting to prove himself here. It's a shame, he could have improved us. Whoever we get in, he has to be better than those here already and a leader. Average backup doesn't cut it for me. If things don't work out on possibly cheaper options we might revisit.
beatlesaint Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 It's a shame, he could have improved us. Whoever we get in, he has to be better than those here already and a leader. Average backup doesn't cut it for me. Totally agree. We must wait and see what happens but i will be very annoyed if we get some no mark that nobody has ever heard of just to sit on the bench and act as cover when, for a not considerable sum of money, we could have gotten a quality player in on loan. A quality player who could be the difference between staying in this league or getting out of it.
Chez Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 with Puncheon away, and Guly, Holmes and Schneiderlin all injured... it must be a case of AS WELL, as Chaplow. nice theory except you have forgotten Hammond.
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 Totally agree. We must wait and see what happens but i will be very annoyed if we get some no mark that nobody has ever heard of just to sit on the bench and act as cover when, for a not considerable sum of money, we could have gotten a quality player in on loan. A quality player who could be the difference between staying in this league or getting out of it. Who would you drop then? The midfield 4 of AOC, Hammond, Chaplow, and Lallana seem pretty set. Why did we sign Chaplow if we could go and get a better midfielder than him on loan in the first place? For what it is worth anyway, I don't think Howard is the type of midfield cover we need. I'd rather a Hammond type player at the moment, even if that means the player we bring in has less quality than Howard.
beatlesaint Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 Who would you drop then? The midfield 4 of AOC, Hammond, Chaplow, and Lallana seem pretty set. Why did we sign Chaplow if we could go and get a better midfielder than him on loan in the first place? For what it is worth anyway, I don't think Howard is the type of midfield cover we need. I'd rather a Hammond type player at the moment, even if that means the player we bring in has less quality than Howard. Its not a case of dropping anyone, its a case of having quality in depth so, with the number of games we have coming up, we can keep players fresh and not have to play them for every minute of every game.....and thats not even considering injuries.
Badger Posted 17 March, 2011 Posted 17 March, 2011 Its not a case of dropping anyone, its a case of having quality in depth so, with the number of games we have coming up, we can keep players fresh and not have to play them for every minute of every game.....and thats not even considering injuries. Or suspensions.
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