Brian Howard

[Appy]

Would be a fantastic signing but i'll beleive it when i see it on the OS.

[S-Clarke]

it rumours like this that cause such disapointment when who it is we get in arrives...and fans get on their backs...

 

Agree with you on that DD.

 

Thats why I feel sorry for Forte and N'Guessun, they're good players in their own right but they'll be given little chance here (as we're seeing) because they cost a pittance and aren't Macakil-Smith/Austin etc...

[Give it to Ron]

Agree with you on that DD.

 

Thats why I feel sorry for Forte and N'Guessun, they're good players in their own right but they'll be given little chance here (as we're seeing) because they cost a pittance and aren't Macakil-Smith/Austin etc...

 

What are you basing on Forte being a good player...how many times have you seen him play?? 10 goals in 118 games yeah bloody hell lets sign that sort of striker rather than a proven one! Christ it ****es me off that some fans get moaned at for having some ambition.

[Smirking_Saint]

What are you basing on Forte being a good player...how many times have you seen him play?? 10 goals in 118 games yeah bloody hell lets sign that sort of striker rather than a proven one! Christ it ****es me off that some fans get moaned at for having some ambition.

 

So what are you basing on him being a bad player ?? Seeing as he has hardly played and contrary to the boll*cks you have posted there is primarily a winger ?

[explorer saint]

What are you basing on Forte being a good player...how many times have you seen him play?? 10 goals in 118 games yeah bloody hell lets sign that sort of striker rather than a proven one! Christ it ****es me off that some fans get moaned at for having some ambition.

 

Never heard of these two players before arriving here so can't see sorry for them. Adkins obviously rates them as squad players but it is up to those players to show in training they are up for it. Both have probably got a good deal coming here thanks to Nigel so sorry no why?

[chocco boxo]

Howard was on £20,000 + at Sheff Utd prob on £15,000 at Reading, has had his time and IMHO is not what we are looking for.

Surely NA has some contacts on Merseyside to get some of their youngsters to ensure we **** Fergie jnr up!

[Give it to Ron]

So what are you basing on him being a bad player ?? Seeing as he has hardly played and contrary to the boll*cks you have posted there is primarily a winger ?

 

Where have I posted he is a bad player...read whats written FFS not the ****** you wanted it to be.

WTF are you on about at the end? Is he primarily a winger...go look again

[RobM]

Delete. I'm being a spaz.

[S-Clarke]

What are you basing on Forte being a good player...how many times have you seen him play?? 10 goals in 118 games yeah bloody hell lets sign that sort of striker rather than a proven one! Christ it ****es me off that some fans get moaned at for having some ambition.

 

I've seen him play for both Sheffield United and S****horpe, and he scored goals in the level above. He's a good squad player for us at the moment

[Smirking_Saint]

Where have I posted he is a bad player...read whats written FFS not the ****** you wanted it to be.

WTF are you on about at the end? Is he primarily a winger...go look again

 

So when did you read someone say he is a good player ?? Read what was written FFS not the ******** you want it to be.

 

Ask most Scunny supporters what position he played and the majority will tell you he was a winger that was played up front occasionally due to his pace, also, the times i have seen him play for scunny (limited i admit) he played on the wing.

 

Wind your neck in.

[SuperMikey]

Tbf, Forte is sh!t.

[capitalsaint]

What are you basing on Forte being a good player...how many times have you seen him play?? 10 goals in 118 games yeah bloody hell lets sign that sort of striker rather than a proven one! Christ it ****es me off that some fans get moaned at for having some ambition.

 

You're right, but if they won't sell him there isn't much we can do. Ambition is good, but if we can't actually get the player in then you could argue it is damaging.

[NickG]

What are you basing on Forte being a good player...how many times have you seen him play?? 10 goals in 118 games yeah bloody hell lets sign that sort of striker rather than a proven one! Christ it ****es me off that some fans get moaned at for having some ambition.

 

he is a winger primarily to act as sub/cover to Lallana and Ox-C. Much better pedigree /experience than Antonio and he did ok. Were you expecting someone from top four club to come in and sit on bench?

[Give it to Ron]

he is a winger primarily to act as sub/cover to Lallana and Ox-C. Much better pedigree /experience than Antonio and he did ok. Were you expecting someone from top four club to come in and sit on bench?

 

No I was expecting someone better - weren't you? Had you heard of him before he came here?

He is a winger...funnily enough you know better than his club who list him as striker...whereas I always believed wingers were midfield.

http://www.s****horpe-united.co.uk/page/ProfilesDetail/0,,10442~29718,00.html

[NickG]

no wasn't expecting CCC player to be honest. Expected we would sign one winger from lower level or league 1, so 2 who seem to have done ok at CCC is better than expected

[NickG]

wingers are often described as "attackers" or "attacking midfielder" or "forward player" "striker" etc - not the same as CF.

 

B'mth manager after game was talking about our striker - Lallana and Ox-C.

[Give it to Ron]

So when did you read someone say he is a good player ?? Read what was written FFS not the ******** you want it to be.

 

Ask most Scunny supporters what position he played and the majority will tell you he was a winger that was played up front occasionally due to his pace, also, the times i have seen him play for scunny (limited i admit) he played on the wing.

 

Wind your neck in.

 

Read their site then....me wind my neck in you tell me I am talking b0llocks and you expect me not to respond?

Scunny OS lists him as strikere http://www.s****horpe-united.co.uk/page/ProfilesDetail/0,,10442~29718,00.html

I still think its odd Adkins loaned him out a few times as well.

 

To make this clearer...its not about Forte personally as its too early to state whether he will be good or bad for us.

Its just that I expected us to sign someone of better quality ...an insurance policy rather than a hope.

Whats wrong with that ...why is that so difficult for you to comprehend?

[LeBenali]

Tbf our OS states Guly is a midfielder, yet is played predominantly upfront.

[Windmill Arm 2]

Read their site then....me wind my neck in you tell me I am talking b0llocks and you expect me not to respond?

Scunny OS lists him as strikere http://www.s****horpe-united.co.uk/page/ProfilesDetail/0,,10442~29718,00.html

I still think its odd Adkins loaned him out a few times as well.

 

To make this clearer...its not about Forte personally as its too early to state whether he will be good or bad for us.

Its just that I expected us to sign someone of better quality ...an insurance policy rather than a hope.

Whats wrong with that ...why is that so difficult for you to comprehend?

I bet you'd love to see us spend spend spend and end up back in the shyte eh? You are also seriously deluded if you thought we would be able to sign anyone of real quality in January, yes we're pushing for promotion, but DUH! so are many others.

[Smirking_Saint]

Read their site then....me wind my neck in you tell me I am talking b0llocks and you expect me not to respond?

Scunny OS lists him as strikere http://www.s****horpe-united.co.uk/page/ProfilesDetail/0,,10442~29718,00.html

I still think its odd Adkins loaned him out a few times as well.

 

To make this clearer...its not about Forte personally as its too early to state whether he will be good or bad for us.

Its just that I expected us to sign someone of better quality ...an insurance policy rather than a hope.

Whats wrong with that ...why is that so difficult for you to comprehend?

 

Yeah, i remember the clamour of players just drooling over the oppurtunity to sit on a league 1 clubs bench behind two youngsters (note, not even older players that would eventually slow down and regress)

 

Plus the other 91 league clubs that obviously would be more than willing to forget about their insurance policies that could cost them promotion/relegation for us to cross their palm with silver.

 

How about some of our fans engaging their brain and realise without paying stupidly over the odds we would never have signed decent players and the fact that very rarely do top quality first 11 players move mid season.

 

You also appear to be the worst kind, moan moan moan we are not spending money and then p*ss and moan about players we have actually signed, jesus christ.

[Give it to Ron]

Yeah, i remember the clamour of players just drooling over the oppurtunity to sit on a league 1 clubs bench behind two youngsters (note, not even older players that would eventually slow down and regress)

 

Plus the other 91 league clubs that obviously would be more than willing to forget about their insurance policies that could cost them promotion/relegation for us to cross their palm with silver.

 

How about some of our fans engaging their brain and realise without paying stupidly over the odds we would never have signed decent players and the fact that very rarely do top quality first 11 players move mid season.

 

You also appear to be the worst kind, moan moan moan we are not spending money and then p*ss and moan about players we have actually signed, jesus christ.

 

Where the fck has that come from...one post where I state that we should of signed beter than Forte...Where have I said we should of spent millions? Thats right I didnt but dont let that ruin your little rant.

Yeah of course Barnard didn't want to come here ...nor did Fonte.....this thread is about Howerd ...why would he want to come here and sit on the bench behind Chaplow or Hammond?.

[Give it to Ron]

I bet you'd love to see us spend spend spend and end up back in the shyte eh? You are also seriously deluded if you thought we would be able to sign anyone of real quality in January, yes we're pushing for promotion, but DUH! so are many others.

 

Sorry Windmill thats wrong...it wasn't me that stated we had put in substantial bids....for what its worth you don't have to spend fortunes to get in decent players in League 1 and no I don't think we need to either.

I do believe we could of got better without paying a fortune.

Would BWP for 200k been such a gamble as Forte? To me he would of been ideal for us - good player to bring on with 20 mins to go.

Ideal League One player as proved by his goals this season.

Edited 15 March, 2011 by Give it to Ron

[Smirking_Saint]

Where the fck has that come from...one post where I state that we should of signed beter than Forte...Where have I said we should of spent millions? Thats right I didnt but dont let that ruin your little rant.

Yeah of course Barnard didn't want to come here ...nor did Fonte.....this thread is about Howerd ...why would he want to come here and sit on the bench behind Chaplow or Hammond?.

 

Pretty sure he wouldn't, which is why i am not getting carried away by the whole thing. I have no doubt we were in for quality players in January, in fact Adkins stated this himself. I do understand the difficulties of trying to persue players in January however.

 

Perhaps the little rant is because i am absolutely f*cked off with people believing we didn't do enough in January as far as spending is concerned. Its not like on paper we haven't got a f*cking good team already. The main cause of our struggle this season is because, like saints always do, we started p*ss poor.

 

You moaned earlier about Forte and N'Guessan as you expected better, and hadn't heard of them. I hadn't heard of Rickie Lambert, Harding or Barnard before they came here but they are doing alright. For a start Forte has hardly played so far. How do you think we would have got better than Forte without spending money ?

[Smirking_Saint]

BWP

[Give it to Ron]

Pretty sure he wouldn't, which is why i am not getting carried away by the whole thing. I have no doubt we were in for quality players in January, in fact Adkins stated this himself. I do understand the difficulties of trying to persue players in January however.

 

Perhaps the little rant is because i am absolutely f*cked off with people believing we didn't do enough in January as far as spending is concerned. Its not like on paper we haven't got a f*cking good team already. The main cause of our struggle this season is because, like saints always do, we started p*ss poor.

 

You moaned earlier about Forte and N'Guessan as you expected better, and hadn't heard of them. I hadn't heard of Rickie Lambert, Harding or Barnard before they came here but they are doing alright. For a start Forte has hardly played so far. How do you think we would have got better than Forte without spending money ?

 

Do you actually read anything people write or just make sh1te up to suit you agenda? Where have I said anything about NGuessan..where did I say I hadnt heard of them?

Where have I said that we should of spent a lot of money??

As for BWP ....yeah he has been so ****e he has scored 5 goals in 9 games at Charlton...jesus christ 200k that is less than we took for the TV for Man Utd

Edited 15 March, 2011 by Give it to Ron

[Smirking_Saint]

No I was expecting someone better - weren't you? Had you heard of him before he came here?

He is a winger...funnily enough you know better than his club who list him as striker...whereas I always believed wingers were midfield.

http://www.s****horpe-united.co.uk/page/ProfilesDetail/0,,10442~29718,00.html

 

There for a start.

 

Also as for BWP he is having a purple patch, it will fade, we all know how bad he is and in reality he would never get in the team above Lambert, Barnard and Guly so why would he have come here anyways ?? Infact, we could have been in for him, you don't know we weren't, and if he was sensible he would take a game for Charlton rather than on the bench for us.

[RobM]

You're a bunch of girls, get over yourselves.

[Give it to Ron]

Read that again...did I say that I hadnt heard of him....where is N'Guessan comments?

BWP is now in League One not the CCC. Do you think we would of sold him the idea he would of been on the bench or that if he plays well he starts?

If Forte has a purple patch no-one repeat no-one will be more pleased than me.

My point again is that we shouldn't be relying on chances...and hoping that players like Forte come good here.

I believe BWP would of been a better option and for only 200kish....that is not spending vast fortunes or even a gamble.

Does that now explain it clearer....

[Smirking_Saint]

He started it

[PokingFun]

To be fair to BWP, he has scored nearly 50 goals in 200 games but the ratio is better than nearly 1 in 4 as he has spent half of his 200 odd games on the bench. L1 seems to be his level to excel somewhat and would arguably still remain a useful impact sub in CCC as he is actually quite an exerienced player now at CCC / L1 level and should be coming into his prime at the age of 26. Wouldn't have been the worst signing ever.

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

Any more on Brian Howard anyone? What's he going to think of us if we can't even keep his thread on topic?

[CWD]

Wouldn't have been the worst signing ever.

 

Yes it would. Literally the worst. Ever.

[ghq]

Howard stated to freinds in a pub in Chandler's Ford 15 months ago that he wouldn't mind playing for Saints. However, in light of Cortese's recent record on signings I'd be very surprised if we heard about his signing, if indeed it occurs, from anywhere except the Saints site.

[Katalinic]

Looks to be something in it...http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/8910842.Howard_closing_in_on_Saints_return/

[patred44]

LOCAL READING PAPER

 

http://www.getbracknell.co.uk/sport/football/readingfc/s/2089365_reading_fc_midfielder_set_to_join_southampton_fc?

Edited 16 March, 2011 by patred44

[Saint Charlie]

Howard can deliver a good corner too, would be a great loan!

[JustMike]

Looks to be something in it...http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/8910842.Howard_closing_in_on_Saints_return/

 

arent most of their "source" quotes just stuff lifted from here?

[beatlesaint]

arent most of their "source" quotes just stuff lifted from here?

 

Thats exactly what I thought when I read it.

I have a little more faith reading the Reading local paper however.

[Rebel]

Howard might give us the leadership on the pitch we so desperately need as well - and if nothing else it will capture the imagination of Saints fans as he is a local boy coming home to the club he supports - which might all give the club the little lift it needs to push on for automatic promotion

[hughieslastminutegoal]

Sorry if posted before but anyone heard about Brian Howard Set to be signed by us on loan till the end of season, with a permy move in place? Deal to be done this week

 

A permy move sounds great - the last one was Kevin Keegan, and he did well for us.

[St_Tel49]

When you have to take one of your central midfielders off after 4 minutes, it's going to create a problem whoever it is. Especially as Hammond and Chaplow were already on the pitch and we had to bring on Guess to replace him, who is a completely different player. Besides, from what people have said on here we had chances, but didn't finish any of them off at Walsall.

 

Or you can take everything at face value, in which case it's still 3 wins and a defeat. 2.25 points per game without Morgan, compared to 1.73 before Morgan got injured.

I would be careful of waving statistics about based on a sample of 4. Quite frankly, in the match against Yeovil I thought we won inspite of the midfield - not because of them. If Yeovil had any finishing ability that match could have gone differently. In the first half especially I thought that there was no flow through the midfield or coherence from them.

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

I checked this thread 10 mins ago and there's been no confirmation of his signing since? WTF is going on? Adkins out.

[Give it to Ron]

I checked this thread 10 mins ago and there's been no confirmation of his signing since? WTF is going on? Adkins out.

 

Go to the Ugly Inside ...Pat reckons its a done deal just needs approving and finalising.

Good signing if true.

[Thedelldays]

Go to the Ugly Inside ...Pat reckons its a done deal just needs approving and finalising.

Good signing if true.

 

this is the same pat that said martin o'neil was just waiting for the call to be our manager......hmmmmm

[thorpie the sinner]

this is the same pat that said martin o'neil was just waiting for the call to be our manager......hmmmmm

 

He was!!

[Thedelldays]

He was!!

lol...yeah, one of the best british managers....cup winner, champions league experience, euro cup final...left because the owner would not plough millions into the team to get top 4 in england..

 

yeah, was waiting for the call to manage in division 3....lol

[Thedelldays]

The Howard deal seems all but complete.

Reading are OK with it

Howard seems keen to come home

Adkins wants him.

Every thing is in place.

 

Now our chairman, with the advice of Les Reed, has to seal the deal.

Given previous occasions when we failed to complete deals, will this be different?

Will Cortese and Reed deliver?

 

that is what Pat said...so, when it does not happen, he can yet again slate the chairman and reed.....same old story

[jam]

lol...yeah, one of the best british managers....cup winner, champions league experience, euro cup final...left because the owner would not plough millions into the team to get top 4 in england..

 

yeah, was waiting for the call to manage in division 3....lol

 

Maybe he just wants to work at clubs that are moving in an upward direction. If he left Villa because he felt the club was not going to take the next step then then although we are in the lower leagues now, I can see it being a rewarding challenge for an ambitious manager. Keegan went to Fulham and Dalglish went to Blackburn when both were in the third tier...

 

That said, I think it's firmly for the Paul Allen bin and am not an O'Neill fan myself.

[Weston Saint]

Echo say Adkins approached Reading last week so the Gobern ban was not the reason. Schneiderlin's long term injury was likely to be the reason.

 

They say there are still major stumbling blocks. I should say so. Howard has a good contract with Reading that still has about 18 months to go. He is on good wages and not likely to take a drop. Unlikely Reading would fund some of it. Then there is the issue on playing Div 1 football. I doubt Howard would want that long term. Then there is the fee to make the deal long term if we persuaded him to stay....promotion would be the only persuasion in my opinion. Reading will try to sqeeze as much as they can.

 

With this out in the open on in the media and forums will this ruin any talks? Who is manipulating the media. Reading? Howard? Howards friends? It certainly won't be Southampton FC.

 

It might happen, then again we know the history of so called deals when they have broken before they are finalized.

 

Good it it happens but I am not holding my breath.

[Miltonaggro]

Howard would be an excellent signing, a vastly experienced player and a solid pro (quality in the Murty mould) - could just give us that cool head in the middle of the park for the run in that we have been crying out for. Would love it if this happens...