Dazza82 Posted 12 March, 2011 Posted 12 March, 2011 I think they will be our biggest challangers for 2nd place, its hard to see them dropping points and they have now stopped shipping goals too. Could our 4-4 game against them be worse than we thought? Looking at their fixtures though does make me think they will slip up, If we win all of our games anyway it wont matter but thats a big IF, They have only 4 games left to play at home and that against Bournemouth * Plymouth Yeovil Dag & Red Away they have Sheff Wed MK Dons * Bristol R Dag & Red Huddersfield * Leyton Orient * Rochdale * are the ones they may slip up in imo
saints-cris Posted 12 March, 2011 Posted 12 March, 2011 There home games are easy besides B'mouth, but Orient, Rochdale, H'field and MK are guna be tough. 5 of their next 6 are away as well. We need to get as far away from them as we can during this period.
um pahars Posted 12 March, 2011 Posted 12 March, 2011 I think they will be our biggest challangers for 2nd place, its hard to see them dropping points and they have now stopped shipping goals too. Could our 4-4 game against them be worse than we thought? Looking at their fixtures though does make me think they will slip up, If we win all of our games anyway it wont matter but thats a big IF, They have only 4 games left to play at home and that against Bournemouth * Plymouth Yeovil Dag & Red Away they have Sheff Wed MK Dons * Bristol R Dag & Red Huddersfield * Leyton Orient * Rochdale * are the ones they may slip up in imo I too think they will be our biggest rivals for second place, but not writing off Huddersfield either!!! Think they'll win all their home games and the upsets could come away from home with the ones you have marked being real toughies/6 pointers (although they haven't been that bad away either recently - 9 from 5 games I think)
Golden Balls Posted 12 March, 2011 Posted 12 March, 2011 Beat Bompey today helps to put them to one side. It's still in our own hands but we do have just as many difficult games as they do. As it stands, they are the biggest threat.
skintsaint Posted 12 March, 2011 Posted 12 March, 2011 I'm not bothered by them too much. They wont win half their remaining games.
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 12 March, 2011 Posted 12 March, 2011 While I agree that Peterborough do have some hard games remaining, can we please not forget that we have to go to Leyton Orient, Brighton, and Charlton ourselves. It will be very tight.
sandwichsaint Posted 12 March, 2011 Posted 12 March, 2011 Charlton have W0 D1 L5 and really aren't very good, we can not go there expecting anything other than a win!
St.Jeweller Posted 12 March, 2011 Posted 12 March, 2011 That 4-4 has been very costly IMO because i had us to win 4-3 in the prediction league, have been ruing over this result for weeks now! and it was a dodgy penalty as well wasn't it!
up and away Posted 12 March, 2011 Posted 12 March, 2011 Unless Peterborough suffer a drop off in form, they have to be favourites for the second spot over us. Although our form has not been the greatest, we have managed results that in previous times we never would of, that bodes very well. The last team I would want to meet in the play offs at present would be Peterborough, they are ripping teams apart for fun. We have not gone on a run yet and if we did, we will have our chance.
Rebel Posted 12 March, 2011 Posted 12 March, 2011 I think Peterborough will be beat Bournemouth - they are a very different team now to the one that got thrashed by Bournemouth earlier this season! Also I think our third defeat of Bompey could be a psychological nail in their coffin - and lead to a collapse of form from them
mcjwills Posted 12 March, 2011 Posted 12 March, 2011 Unless Peterborough suffer a drop off in form, they have to be favourites for the second spot over us. Although our form has not been the greatest, we have managed results that in previous times we never would of, that bodes very well. The last team I would want to meet in the play offs at present would be Peterborough, they are ripping teams apart for fun. We have not gone on a run yet and if we did, we will have our chance. How can you say if we win our 2 games in hand we are 4 points ahead of them and all we have to do is match them point for point
Glasgow_Saint Posted 12 March, 2011 Posted 12 March, 2011 How can you say if we win our 2 games in hand we are 4 points ahead of them and all we have to do is match them point for point 1 game
stug76 Posted 12 March, 2011 Posted 12 March, 2011 We are effectively in second (technically not, but taking a pts per game we are and should expect to be in 2nd when games in hand are taken into consideration), on a great run of form, with a great squad. Whilst I agree that Peterborough are probably our closest competiton, it's in our hands.
SNSUN Posted 12 March, 2011 Posted 12 March, 2011 At the start of the season I was worried about Huddersfield and I still am. But... it's in our own hands still, we aren't at that point yet to have to worry about other teams.
corsacar saint Posted 12 March, 2011 Posted 12 March, 2011 I agree with you on this as well. They are scoring goals for fun,and seem to have tightened up at the back in the last few games,which they needed to do. I just hope throwing away two goal leads twice in the game up there,does not come back to haunt us.I heard a rumour at the Swindon game,that Mackhail-Smith was one of the players we had a substantial bid in for in january,we offered supposedly 1.2 million and they wanted 2 million. I hope that does not comeback to haunt us either.
S-Clarke Posted 12 March, 2011 Posted 12 March, 2011 Hudders are very stretched at the moment. As well as Pilkington being out, they've now lost Kay - their CB, for a good month or so. I think they'll feel the strain if I'm honest and just come up short in the end. It's easy to say ''I don't know where P'boro will drop points'' at the moment - as they're winning most weeks, but there was a thread about Charlton a few months ago ''They're our biggest challengers'' etc. A month of defeats and draws for them and they are out of any promotion race. The amount of away games they have left is crucial and with our games in hand and our home games....we should have enough to do it, and hopefully before the last game of the season too!
um pahars Posted 12 March, 2011 Posted 12 March, 2011 and hopefully before the last game of the season too! Have always thought it will go to the last game of the season, which won't be good for my nerves. History has us getting promoted at a London venue, so maybe we will go up at Brentford and Walsall at home will be a party!!!!!
S-Clarke Posted 12 March, 2011 Posted 12 March, 2011 Have always thought it will go to the last game of the season, which won't be good for my nerves. History has us getting promoted at a London venue, so maybe we will go up at Brentford and Walsall at home will be a party!!!!! If it does go to the last game of the season...then we have to be second going into it. The key games on the last day: Bournemouth v Rochdale, 15:00 Huddersfield v Brentford, 15:00 Peterborough v Dag & Red, 15:00 Southampton v Walsall, 15:00 All at home against struggling teams...you'd fancy everyone to win their games.
benjii Posted 12 March, 2011 Posted 12 March, 2011 They are playing well but we have more games and two extra home games. If we win all our home games then their away form will need to be very good indeed to finish above us.
Under Weststand Posted 12 March, 2011 Posted 12 March, 2011 Whilst I hope & pray we go up in 2nd automatically, Peterborough are our biggest threat, if we have to go via the play off route then I hope its Posh who get the 2nd auto place. I really wouldn't want to be playing them now. They are scoring for fun & have stopped conceding 4 clean sheets in a row.
labibs Posted 12 March, 2011 Posted 12 March, 2011 I certainly think we will drop points over the rest of the season. Leyton Orient away I think we will los and Brighton away will be very tough. Peterborough definitely our main rivals IMO. They have some player (CMS/Boyd) that are simply far too good for this league. It's going to be very tight, I fully expect us to go into the last game if the season needing to beat Walsall to guarantee promotion.
dellboypete Posted 12 March, 2011 Posted 12 March, 2011 .............. Leyton Orient away I think we will los and Brighton away will be very tough. ................ Orient have really surprised me (and loads of others) having a great run at the moment, but hey, great memories of '66 and '78 should be enough
docker-p Posted 12 March, 2011 Posted 12 March, 2011 Orient have really surprised me (and loads of others) having a great run at the moment, but hey, great memories of '66 and '78 should be enough Orient are on a march. We'll get 2nd spot but Bournemouth might loose out a play off place to the Londoners.
Fan The Flames Posted 12 March, 2011 Posted 12 March, 2011 If it does go to the last game of the season...then we have to be second going into it. The key games on the last day: Bournemouth v Rochdale, 15:00 Huddersfield v Brentford, 15:00 Peterborough v Dag & Red, 15:00 Southampton v Walsall, 15:00 All at home against struggling teams...you'd fancy everyone to win their games. Thats quite remarkable.
skintsaint Posted 13 March, 2011 Posted 13 March, 2011 Orient are on a march. We'll get 2nd spot but Bournemouth might loose out a play off place to the Londoners. Havent Orient about 5 games in hand? They will be knackered playing all the games so won't win all of them I think.
rallyboy Posted 13 March, 2011 Posted 13 March, 2011 I don't think Peterborough are as good as the table suggests, they have some tough games to come and yesterday they played against a very different Carlisle to the one that we saw, they looked drunk - and with a soft ref - again. Do some of these smaller teams not bother at grounds like Peterborough and then get all committed when they come to a big ground? We need to keep on pocketing the points and the others will fall away - we have depth in the squad, they don't. Yesterday was pivotal to the season.
SaintRichmond Posted 13 March, 2011 Posted 13 March, 2011 I think they will be our biggest challangers for 2nd place, its hard to see them dropping points and they have now stopped shipping goals too. Could our 4-4 game against them be worse than we thought? IMHO, Two things will come back to haunt us 1) Letting a two goal lead slip TWICE in the 4-4 v P'boro .... Two VITAL points dropped 2) NOT getting Craig Mackail Smith I cannot see where they will drop any points on the run in All the more galling when it's Sir Alex's wonderful Son ( who couldn't motivate PNE ), getting all the plaudits for P'boro's Goal Machinr Team I really hope we do not have to go through the Lottery of the Play Offs
NickG Posted 13 March, 2011 Posted 13 March, 2011 Peterborough are saying that they hope not getting Lallana and Ox-C of us in January is not going to come back to haunt them, also worried about drawing a recent home game allowing an away team to score 4.
Window Cleaner Posted 13 March, 2011 Posted 13 March, 2011 I cannot see where they will drop any points on the run in Peterborough have a few hard games left as do we. I think MK Dons,Huddersfield,Orient and even Bournemouth may well trouble them still.With their potent attack they can crush anyone on their day but it may not always be their day.Saints and Posh have an equal number of tricky games left and it's possible second place depends on the outcome of these,particularly the games against MK Dons and Orient for both sides.We have to play Brighton they've got Huddersfield so it's about even steven really.
Trader Posted 13 March, 2011 Posted 13 March, 2011 Peter who ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Brough Radio ventriloquist - doesn't take much talent TBF
Jones91 Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 Hopefully Shef Weds beat them tomorrow and are then too knackered to play us Sat. Carlsberg don't do prediction leagues...
Thedelldays Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 worryingly....the Posh have kept 3 clean sheets in a row
RedArmy Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 worryingly....the Posh have kept 3 clean sheets in a rowIndeed, if Fergie Jr has sorted out their back 4 then it's Brighton who need to worry about Peterborough, not us.
thesaint sfc Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 I reckon they'll beat us to second place to be honest.
Sheaf Saint Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 IMHO, Two things will come back to haunt us 1) Letting a two goal lead slip TWICE in the 4-4 v P'boro .... Two VITAL points dropped Or you could look at the fact that they have only taken 1 point off us this season - and that was only thanks to a very dodgy last-minute penalty. Remember we beat them 4-1 at SMS earlier in the season.
benjii Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 If they finish second we will win the play offs and if they don't finish second then we will so I am chilled.
Junction 9 Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 82 goals is quite something. Our main threat in my opinion. Huddersfield and Bournemouth with drop too many points.
saints-cris Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 As long as us or Peterborough get 2nd, sounds crazy i know.. they would be the one side I wouldnt want in the playoffs. Dont think id be able to last 90 minutes of that again. I think we could beat the rest.
RedArmy Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 They've only conceded twice in their last 7 games (5 clean sheets) and have scored in their last 21 league games at a rate of 2.52 goals per game. It might be "in our hands" but those are some worrying statistics.
Window Cleaner Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 They've only conceded twice in their last 7 games (5 clean sheets) and have scored in their last 21 league games at a rate of 2.52 goals per game. It might be "in our hands" but those are some worrying statistics. they've changed a central defender of late don't know the whys and wherefores though.
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 If Peterborough and Saints continue their current form, if I was Brighton I would be bricking it.
Window Cleaner Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 If Peterborough and Saints continue their current form, if I was Brighton I would be bricking it. Not really, Brighton can probably afford to lose nearly half of their remaining games and still be champions.Their current form is as good as or better than ours or Peterborough's.
beardy Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 Not really, Brighton can probably afford to lose nearly half of their remaining games and still be champions.Their current form is as good as or better than ours or Peterborough's. Better.
thesaint78 Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 We have a better goal difference by 10 goals at the moment. The way Peterborough are scoring for fun could see that negated by the end of the season. Could come down to this in the end though. It'll be tight for sure.
Supersubpuckett Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 Their away record isn't good and they have MK Dons, Udds and Orient to play on their travels. Some big talk from Boyd on the BBC site too.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/peterborough_united/9424096.stm
up and away Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 Originally Posted by up and away Unless Peterborough suffer a drop off in form, they have to be favourites for the second spot over us. Although our form has not been the greatest, we have managed results that in previous times we never would of, that bodes very well. The last team I would want to meet in the play offs at present would be Peterborough, they are ripping teams apart for fun. We have not gone on a run yet and if we did, we will have our chance. Have to be? No they don't. In fact, they aren't, factually, are they? Every bookies I check puts us as favourites for 2nd. So we HAVE to be favourites for second don't we? I'd rather be in our position as I think we'll win the games in hand. Plus I think we're a better side. Many twists and turns to come, but I think we'll focus more for the business end of the season. Focus has been our problem, as if we need a walsall defeat to start a winning run again. 3 wins in a row is nice, but we need more. 2 tough games coming up, but hopefully we can get 6 points and not look back. Peterborough are capable of losing any game, especially away, just like we've been, so it's pointless predicting their results. If it's pointless predicting anything, why are any of us on this forum? Both ourselves and Peterborough have been getting the results of late, but Peterborough have looked far more convincing and I firmly believe we will need more than a two point advantage over them if they keep up their current form. I don't think they will keep up their form, but I am even more concerned with ourselves than them. You look at all the teams for the +/- in their play and form, Brighton are built around a solid defence and I don't think they are touchable at present, being able to drag out results when sometimes they don't deserve to all through the season. Peterborough have suddenly found a defence to go alongside that awesome attack and that is a major threat. The way we set up the team we are dependent to a large extent upon our two star talents, Lallana and Oxo and I feel we are risking them and our chances too much by the amount of games we are asking them to start. If these players are not doing the business, pressure immediately comes on the full backs and midfield. Lose Lallana and we all know what happens to our results, lose Oxo and the pressure and volume of games on Lallana become excessive. If you play them when jaded it's just as bad because it allows the opposition free run at our full backs. How we finish this season will be dependent upon how we use Lallana and Oxo in getting the most quality out of them. The way we are going at present I feel is very risky to get the best results with the volume of games we have for the rest of the season.
Window Cleaner Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 Their away record isn't good and they have MK Dons, Udds and Orient to play on their travels. Some big talk from Boyd on the BBC site too.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/peterborough_united/9424096.stm Their recent away form is excellent, won 3 of 3, everything has changed at Peterborough since Ferguson has got them back under control. He's brought back Zakuani into the centre of their defence and has them scoring almost at will. They might crack, so might we,so might Brighton but on recent form everybody Brighton,Saints and Peterborough are much on a par.
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