Ken Tone Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 Must be Howard. I believe there's a rule in Saints constitution that says that whilst we're outside of the top flight we must have a player on loan from Reading. He'd be the fourth in recent times after Pearce' date=' Antonio and Bignall wouldn't he? Isn't it nice when a bigger club helps us littl'uns out? [/quote'] Hey ...yes, and when we're promoted we can all sing "ce sera, ce sera, we're all going to the Madejski" and invent a whole new major derby rivalry. ...oh hang on, that's been done.
Chez Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 Danny Guthrie anyone ? there was talk of Forest loaning him recently, but no chance of him dropping down two divisions. None at all.
Doctoroncall Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 Sam Togwell of S****horpe is a likely target, Adkins signed him for them. But I would like to think that Les Reed will try to get Palace to loan us Darren Ambrose. Charlton need to shake a few things up and I'd expect a clear out this summer. They're done that already on the managerial front with Parkinson replaced by Powell and now that Charlton are more or less out of the promotion race that could be a good call for both teams.
St.Thomas7 Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 This is no dispect to you and obviously your post is appreciated. But the whole he would have signed last week but for the appearance fee business just seems a little far fetched and a way of explaining why he played today if he was coming on loan. None taken! Like I say, just passing on what I've heard... Thomas, with respect to the fact you probably don't want to reveal who your source is, how confident are you in them? Have they had good info before? In all honesty he's been spot on with a couple of transfers. Got Lambert, Chaplow and Barnard bang on the money... but then he was so certain about Stock (remember that?) and that didn't come off at all, so I'm going to go with "fairly" confident but wouldn't bet the farm just yet...
Dellman Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 The way the current Executive works in a leak-free manner with very few ITK people (much to their dismay) I won't be surprised if the name is a surprise, and that's how it should be!
Colinjb Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 Someone's modified wikipedia..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Howard_%28footballer%29 Brian Richard William Howard (born 23 January 1983) is an English footballer who plays for Reading in the Football League Championship as a midfielder. He is also a former England U20 international. Howard is set to join boyhood former club southampton on loan after talks, with a view to signing a long term deal with the saints in the summer, providing they gain promotion to the championship.
Lets B Avenue Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 Charlton need to shake a few things up and I'd expect a clear out this summer. They're done that already on the managerial front with Parkinson replaced by Powell and now that Charlton are more or less out of the promotion race that could be a good call for both teams. All very interesting, but Ambrose plays for Palace.
ohwhenthesaints Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 Someone's modified wikipedia..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Howard_%28footballer%29 Quick, somebody contact the Echo.
miserableoldgit Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 The way the current Executive works in a leak-free manner with very few ITK people (much to their dismay) I won't be surprised if the name is a surprise, and that's how it should be! Bound to be a chump, though. ..... Right??????
Glasgow_Saint Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 Adkins + SFC transfers = nightmare! (so far)
Doctoroncall Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 All very interesting, but Ambrose plays for Palace. haha, ta. It was the Les Reed connection that threw me and I'm exhausted from being up dealing with a sick daughter... I'd better check my other posts now!
miserableoldgit Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 Quick, somebody contact the Echo. Probably the Echo that did it after reading it on here!
altoniansaints Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 Matt Oakley`s loan move to Nott Forest has hit a snag????
derry Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 Someone's modified wikipedia..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Howard_%28footballer%29 This is a case of really jumping the gun. I have been in contact with Brian and the way it is being put about as a done deal is nonsense. That is not to say it can't happen but it is nowhere near at this point in time.
Saints67 Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 This is a case of really jumping the gun. I have been in contact with Brian and the way it is being put about as a done deal is nonsense. That is not to say it can't happen but it is nowhere near at this point in time. When you say nowhere near do you mean he just has to put his stuff in the car?
derry Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 When you say nowhere near do you mean he just has to put his stuff in the car? No. I mean nowhere near.
Chez Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 with Gobern, Morgan and potentially Hammond if he gets another yellow all out, why would we be looking for an attacking midfielder like Howard? I know Chaplow has been poor recently, but unless we are bringing in two I'd of thought a holding midfielder would be the order of the day.
Window Cleaner Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 with Gobern, Morgan and potentially Hammond if he gets another yellow all out, why would we be looking for an attacking midfielder like Howard? I know Chaplow has been poor recently, but unless we are bringing in two I'd of thought a holding midfielder would be the order of the day. Hammond is on 8 yellows,Chaplow only 7 but he's picking them up at an impressive rate of late. I'd think the chances of us making the next amnesty without one of them being either injured or suspended are virtually zero.The Plymouth game being postponed might help though.
Wallington Saint Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 If Guly is nearly fit, surely he played central midfield in Italy? If he could slot in with Barnard & Lambert up front, it could actually improve the team.
Window Cleaner Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 If Guly is nearly fit, surely he played central midfield in Italy? If he could slot in with Barnard & Lambert up front, it could actually improve the team. There is no way Guly is a central midfielder in the English sense of it.He'd be comfortable in the Lallana or Chamberlain role but he'd be crap in the tackle and would probably get sent off within minutes. Chaplow is already limited enough in his defensive qualities,we don't need to burden ourselves with Guly as well.If the worse comes to the worst I'd do what Derry suggested and move Fonte forward a notch.
NickG Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 If Guly is nearly fit, surely he played central midfield in Italy? If he could slot in with Barnard & Lambert up front, it could actually improve the team. good shout. pretty attacking / lightweight midfield - Ox-C / Guly / Lallana!
NickG Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 There is no way Guly is a central midfielder in the English sense of it.He'd be comfortable in the Lallana or Chamberlain role but he'd be crap in the tackle and would probably get sent off within minutes. Chaplow is already limited enough in his defensive qualities,we don't need to burden ourselves with Guly as well.If the worse comes to the worst I'd do what Derry suggested and move Fonte forward a notch. think Fonte would be lacking in passing and quick moving of the ball
Thedelldays Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 fonte is not going to play CM......simple as that
Window Cleaner Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 think Fonte would be lacking in passing and quick moving of the ball but a far better ball winning and defensive solution than Guly.Can't pass the ball if you can't win it and being down to 10 wouldn't help.Look what happened to Gobern..........
Thedelldays Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 but a far better ball winning and defensive solution than Guly.Can't pass the ball if you can't win it and being down to 10 wouldn't help.Look what happened to Gobern.......... why are we obsessed with ball winning midfielders..?
Window Cleaner Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 fonte is not going to play CM......simple as that we're talking about worst case emergency scenarios here and we have no-one else if Hammond had to go off or wasn't available.
Window Cleaner Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 why are we obsessed with ball winning midfielders..? because you need to be able to win the ball to move it forward, if you can't win the ball in midfield you are f*cked.
NickG Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 but a far better ball winning and defensive solution than Guly.Can't pass the ball if you can't win it and being down to 10 wouldn't help.Look what happened to Gobern.......... That's why he is, and will stay a CB! Think options that Adkins would use in CM before Fonte are: Guly Richardson Butterfield Dickson Lallana McNish
derry Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 We need players to win the ball because we keep giving it away. Yes Fonte could play CM but unlikely to happen.
Window Cleaner Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 That's why he is, and will stay a CB! Think options that Adkins would use in CM before Fonte are: Guly Richardson Butterfield Dickson Lallana McNish Well hopefully it won't come to that. Not even sure on Dickson's status, may have to deputise for Harding next Saturday.
Kingsland Red Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 Danny Guthrie anyone ? http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Transfer-News-Nottingham-Forest-have-turned-their-attention-to-Newcastle-s-Dannie-Guthrie-after-missing-out-on-Leicester-s-Matt-Oakley-article713565.html He's played for us and I'm sure Pardew owes us one for the poor start to the season !!!!!!!
Crab Lungs Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 If we don't sign anyone, Butterfield will fill in at CM if required with Richardson coming in at RB. I think.
Chez Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 I'd prefer Dickson in CM than Fonte or Butterfield. A few foraging runs from the back doesn't make a centre midfielder and Butterfield just doesn't have the legs to play in the middle. I don't see the issue in playing Guly alongside Hammond if required. Guly is mobile, excellent in the ball and contrary to previous posters suggestions he can tackle. The issue is if Hammond is suspended or injured. An underperforming Chaplow alongside Dickson doesn't inspire.
Colbury Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 Howard would be great, as would frimpong Werent we linked with him before he did his cruciate pre season? He is class BTW and was meant to challenge Arsenals first team this year.
Smirking_Saint Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 Werent we linked with him before he did his cruciate pre season? He is class BTW and was meant to challenge Arsenals first team this year. If he did his cruciate pre season i wouldn't imagine he would be playing until next season, especially in a league 1 dogfight.
Thedelldays Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 hope no one made a fool of themselves and suggested surman
Raging Bull Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 hope no one made a fool of themselves and suggested surman No but he took his goal well tonight though. Am I right in thinking that come April the yellow card count is higher than 10 before you serve a ban?
benjii Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 I'd prefer Dickson in CM than Fonte or Butterfield. A few foraging runs from the back doesn't make a centre midfielder and Butterfield just doesn't have the legs to play in the middle. I don't see the issue in playing Guly alongside Hammond if required. Guly is mobile, excellent in the ball and contrary to previous posters suggestions he can tackle. The issue is if Hammond is suspended or injured. An underperforming Chaplow alongside Dickson doesn't inspire. Absolutely, that's the key concern. He is our number one CM.
Rebel Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 You are kidding about Hammond right!?! At times he is bl**dy awful - recently against Swindon and against Yeovil he was the worst player on the pitch for most of the game. He failed to track back time and again, his passing was abysmal and his tackling poor.Hopefully it's just because he needs 3 or 4 games to get match fit! Both Morgan and Chaplow are far better midfielders. As for that both Howard and Surman would improve our team right now. What we really need is a CM, a winger and a striker before the loan window closes to cover for Chamberlain and Lallana as well as Barnard if legal issues take him out of the team - as well central midfield!
S-Clarke Posted 14 March, 2011 Posted 14 March, 2011 You are kidding about Hammond right!?! At times he is bl**dy awful - recently against Swindon and against Yeovil he was the worst player on the pitch for most of the game. He failed to track back time and again, his passing was abysmal and his tackling poor.Hopefully it's just because he needs 3 or 4 games to get match fit! Both Morgan and Chaplow are far better midfielders. As for that both Howard and Surman would improve our team right now. What we really need is a CM, a winger and a striker before the loan window closes to cover for Chamberlain and Lallana as well as Barnard if legal issues take him out of the team - as well central midfield! Hammond is a good player and is in a good run of form at the moment. I've always liked what he offers, he can look limited at times but I think he always gives his all. We don't need cover for Chambo and Lallana, that's just being greedy tbh. We have N'Guessun and Forte who have not had a chance to make an impact yet, they can play on the flanks (either side) or up front. I don't understand why they're being written off with less than 120mins to their names.
Nick65 Posted 15 March, 2011 Posted 15 March, 2011 According to the OS, Hammond's on 6 yellows, not 8. Anyone know which is right? Agree we need some midfield cover as still six games to go (maybe five depending on when the Plymouth date is) before the amnesty comes in (April 10th), plus another injury would leave us stretched in midfield and I'm assuming Morgan won't be back in a hurry. But wouldn't be surprised if we end up with one of Guly/Butterfield/Dickson and hopefully they'll step up and surprise us. Matty Oakley on loan would be good except he's still starting for Leicester.
Window Cleaner Posted 15 March, 2011 Posted 15 March, 2011 According to the OS, Hammond's on 6 yellows, not 8. Anyone know which is right? Agree we need some midfield cover as still six games to go (maybe five depending on when the Plymouth date is) before the amnesty comes in (April 10th), plus another injury would leave us stretched in midfield and I'm assuming Morgan won't be back in a hurry. But wouldn't be surprised if we end up with one of Guly/Butterfield/Dickson and hopefully they'll step up and surprise us. Matty Oakley on loan would be good except he's still starting for Leicester. 6 yellows in the League,one in the JPT and 1 in the Carling Cup, total 8.
saint1977 Posted 15 March, 2011 Posted 15 March, 2011 You are kidding about Hammond right!?! At times he is bl**dy awful - recently against Swindon and against Yeovil he was the worst player on the pitch for most of the game. He failed to track back time and again, his passing was abysmal and his tackling poor.Hopefully it's just because he needs 3 or 4 games to get match fit! Both Morgan and Chaplow are far better midfielders. As for that both Howard and Surman would improve our team right now. What we really need is a CM, a winger and a striker before the loan window closes to cover for Chamberlain and Lallana as well as Barnard if legal issues take him out of the team - as well central midfield! I've criticised Hammond earlier in the season but I do think on current performances that is a bit harsh. He's weighed in with vital goals like Saturday's and has been more vocal on the pitch. He's not our most talented player but not our worst either. As for N'Guessan, he played well when I saw him at Exeter but has been stop-start since but his pace is a threat and we've hardly seen Forte. We do another CM after Morgan's injury and Gobern's stupidity on Saturday. Gobern has been a red card waiting to happen as a sub, he also totalled one of Exeter's players straight after coming on and got away with it, a loan next season might be in order as there is a good player in there somewhere.
patred44 Posted 15 March, 2011 Posted 15 March, 2011 http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/football-league/league-one/5916/9/peterborough-southampton-and-charlton-chasing-arsenal-starlet?
Chez Posted 15 March, 2011 Posted 15 March, 2011 6 yellows in the League,one in the JPT and 1 in the Carling Cup, total 8. he wasn't booked in the JPT game according to the BBC website http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8951114.stm so I make it 7. Suspension less of an issue then more the worry about an injury leaving us wafer short never mind not having any CM subs.
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