Saint_Ash Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Adkins will get in another chump. God I'd hate to be you and have your sad little life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 don't think Saint Lard likes saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 don't think Saint Lard likes saints I am sure he does its just he wants to be Alpine 2 The Sequel. He has been on Adkins case since day one with an irrational dislike of Adkins based on a 'feeling I have'. Personally I am not convinced totally but that is based on me watching him, the team display, tactics and substitutions after half a season not a couple of days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MINIBARCELONASAINT Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 freddy adu. hth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 don't think Saint Lard likes saints Oh,trust me i love saints. Hence, i believe Adkins is not the right man, for the club i love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 really need a manager who can get us 3 points per game average and a better run than W W W L W D W D W ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Oh,trust me i love saints. Hence, i believe Adkins is not the right man, for the club i love. At this moment in time, yours is a very minority view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 God I'd hate to be you and have your sad little life! Excellent input to the thread,Well done. I dont' think Adkins has the ability to 'sell' the club to a player of any real worth. As i stated sometime ago we need to be putting in place the building blocks for a club that is prospectively playing in the CCC next season,we did not do that in January and anyone that comes in now should be of CCC calibre.Be it a loan with a view to a permanant deal would be ideal,however this is what should have happend in the recent transfer window. If we had been in a position,in the transfer window, that would point to others we were on course for promotion others may have been willing to join,however we were and have been the opitimy of inconsistancy,underperformance and relying on hope that we go up, instead of paving the way with the squad we have at our disposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 really need a manager who can get us 3 points per game average and a better run than W W W L W D W D W ! I've just been physically sick looking at those results. Disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 wtf is an opitimy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 At this moment in time, yours is a very minority view. Ok, so be it,but it is my view,like you are entitled to yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 wtf is an opitimy? I think you know what i mean. **** me,picking up on grammer, is that all you have to offer the debate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 I've heard that we are signing Brian Howard on loan from reading with a view to a permanent! My son is a mate of his, I've asked him to check with Brian. He would be a great signing but he will cost at least £10k a week and he has two more years left on his Reading contract after this season, secondly he has said that he doesn't want to play in div 1, however he does want to play for Saints before he retires and he lives near Cadnam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Thomas7 Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 I just got an inbox saying "Brain Howard to sign on loan next week"... Usually good source... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 I just got an inbox saying "Brain Howard to sign on loan next week"... Usually good source... Quick, everyone on to Twitter.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 I think you know what i mean. **** me,picking up on grammer, is that all you have to offer the debate? There's no point "debating" with someone who prattles on about inconsistency when we've won 4 games out of the last 5 and taken 20 points from the last 9 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Excellent input to the thread,Well done. I dont' think Adkins has the ability to 'sell' the club to a player of any real worth. As i stated sometime ago we need to be putting in place the building blocks for a club that is prospectively playing in the CCC next season,we did not do that in January and anyone that comes in now should be of CCC calibre.Be it a loan with a view to a permanant deal would be ideal,however this is what should have happend in the recent transfer window. If we had been in a position,in the transfer window, that would point to others we were on course for promotion others may have been willing to join,however we were and have been the opitimy of inconsistancy,underperformance and relying on hope that we go up, instead of paving the way with the squad we have at our disposal. Please factually spell out exactly how we have been inconsistent and underperforming. Adkins has almost the same record as Poyet, yet we are inconsistent? We have won our last 3 including two banana skin away games - games which Pardew may well have lost us - and have lost what - once in 10? How many big deals happened anywhere never mind league 1 in Jan? In essence, what exactly is it you think Adkins isn't doing or is doing wrong? I suspect you are creating a rationale to fit your unfounded dislike of Adkins, since none of the facts support your assertions. By all means try and prove me' wrong, but I am struggling to see any truth in anything you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 really need a manager who can get us 3 points per game average and a better run than W W W L W D W D W ! 6 away - 11 points, 3 home - 9 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Frimpong from Arsenal would be an amazing loan signing, have heard some really good things about him. Very much in the Schneiderlin mould as he likes to sit back and spray the ball around. Probably hoping for too much though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Excellent input to the thread,Well done. I dont' think Adkins has the ability to 'sell' the club to a player of any real worth. As i stated sometime ago we need to be putting in place the building blocks for a club that is prospectively playing in the CCC next season,we did not do that in January and anyone that comes in now should be of CCC calibre.Be it a loan with a view to a permanant deal would be ideal,however this is what should have happend in the recent transfer window. If we had been in a position,in the transfer window, that would point to others we were on course for promotion others may have been willing to join,however we were and have been the opitimy of inconsistancy,underperformance and relying on hope that we go up, instead of paving the way with the squad we have at our disposal. people in the game will not just look as shallowly at the game as you do, just because he never played for italy doesn't make him a bad manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 people in the game will not just look as shallowly at the game as you do, just because he never played for italy doesn't make him a bad manager.[/QUOTE] Just because he managed Scunny, that does not make him a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 people in the game will not just look as shallowly at the game as you do, just because he never played for italy doesn't make him a bad manager.[/QUOTE] Just because he managed Scunny, that does not make him a good one. Has anyone ever said he is a good manager "because he managed Scunny"? Anyone? Ever? Heard a few say that getting them promoted twice indicates he might be a good manager though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Josh Wright and Brian Howard are both reasonable shouts. The former handed in a transfer request at S****horpe, but has since withdrawn it. Howard is a local lad and would undoubtedly like to play for us one day. We'll have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Excellent input to the thread,Well done. I dont' think Adkins has the ability to 'sell' the club to a player of any real worth. As i stated sometime ago we need to be putting in place the building blocks for a club that is prospectively playing in the CCC next season,we did not do that in January and anyone that comes in now should be of CCC calibre.Be it a loan with a view to a permanant deal would be ideal,however this is what should have happend in the recent transfer window. If we had been in a position,in the transfer window, that would point to others we were on course for promotion others may have been willing to join,however we were and have been the opitimy of inconsistancy,underperformance and relying on hope that we go up, instead of paving the way with the squad we have at our disposal. Just out of interest what part of our January do you have a problem with? The bit where the manager and club convinced our best player to sign a 4 year deal? The bit where we signed a midfielder who is very much capable of playing in the Championship? The bit where we as fans were desperatley calling for some options both out wide and up front, but in reality we all knew that the options would only be options and not first team players because you seriously can't be suggesting we go out and snap up a winger that is better than Chambo or Lallana, so instead we get a winger who's played Championship football this season until his club got new owners and revamped the squad and we also got someone who looks pretty rapid and too played at Championship level this season, although not exactly a goal scoring god, there is no doubt that he was not first choice (CMS, who it sounds as though we were priced out of) but instead an option the manager knows and actually offers something we don't have upfront (raw pace) but in reality like most players he's not going to start much while Lambert, Barnard and Guly are fit. I really would like to know what you expected and who you expected would be willing to sign for us in this league with the squad we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Has anyone ever said he is a good manager "because he managed Scunny"? Anyone? Ever? Heard a few say that getting them promoted twice indicates he might be a good manager though. And relegated once. I think you have just asnwered your question,he got scunny up twice...therefore he is a good manager??? Many have tried to impress on others what he did at scunny has some relevance to us...it has none. A CV is only a good indicator if the two jobs are on par and relative to each other.....Scunny V sfc is not on par nor relative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Brian Howard just played against Man City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 You are making yourself look very silly on here saint lard. It's like you're desperate for him to do badly so you can say ''I told you so'' - but you're bringing up totally ridiculous reasons as to why he's ''rubbish'' and apparently promotion form since Adkins has been ''in the building'' isn't good enough. Just accept that you've been proven wrong before you embarrass yourself even further - he's a good manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Well Brian Howard played the last 5 mins for Reading in the FA Cup today but has only played 16 League games for them this season so he is by no means a regular.....and he is obviously not out injured. He would do :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgoose Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 And relegated once. I think you have just asnwered your question,he got scunny up twice...therefore he is a good manager??? Many have tried to impress on others what he did at scunny has some relevance to us...it has none. A CV is only a good indicator if the two jobs are on par Sorry but I don't understand your logic. Of course it has relevance. He has managerial experience of getting a side with limited funds and resources promoted from League 1 (if anything the relegation is irrelevant because he had little resources to stay there). If no previous experience was relevant we might as well just appoint someone off this forum. Sorry if I'm missing something here...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Brian Howard just played against Man City Another one we get linked with all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom28 Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 On Frimpong... “He is coming along well for a guy who has a cruciate,” said Arsene Wenger on December 30. “You count nine months and it is now nearly six. He is close to running and in one month he should start to play in training.” So from that we can assume he's been in training for a month or so....about time he started getting some games I would reckon.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Doesn't Pulis play centre midfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 (edited) Must be Howard. I believe there's a rule in Saints constitution that says that whilst we're outside of the top flight we must have a player on loan from Reading. He'd be the fourth in recent times after Pearce, Antonio and Bignall wouldn't he? Isn't it nice when a bigger club helps us littl'uns out? Edited 13 March, 2011 by Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 I think you know what i mean. **** me,picking up on grammer, is that all you have to offer the debate? I think you need to have bit more about the debate yourself if you expect anyone to take you seriously. Dismissing Adkins cos Scunny aren't Saints and he got them relegated between two promotions is hardly a credible argument. To judge Adkins potential you need to analyse what he did with limited resources and then consider what he could do in our club where the whole set up is different from youth, training facilities, marketing, finance, fans, etc. At the end of the day Adkins has got a young team playing football the way he wants it played - a rare achievement for any Saints manager - ask Strachan! He has taken us from the lower half of the league to within a point of automatic promotion and still has 1/4 of the season to go. He has shown he can attract the best youth to the club and can retain the likes of Chamberlain and Lallana. There is a good spirit in the camp. The players clearly want to play for him and most fans, recognising there is still room for some improvement can see we are moving in the right direction. Most imprortantly we have shown that we will not be held to ransome or try to buy our way to the top. That clearly does not work in the real world - only on computer games! For the last few years people have been banging on about the negative effect of constant change at management and board level. We now have some consistency and - surprise surprise - it's working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Doesn't Pulis play centre midfield? I was waiting for this suggestion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 I see Saint_Lard is still around with his anti-atkins tirade ?? I am starting to believe he is actually Pardew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Saint Lard's views are so inconsistent. He is so inconsistent. Frankly, I expect better of him. Far too inconsistent and underachieving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 I see Saint_Lard is still around with his anti-atkins tirade ?? I am starting to believe he is actually Pardew at last an explanation that makes sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 at last an explanation that makes sense! Well it was from me Nick A man of limitless knowledge and to the point posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Ok, so be it,but it is my view,like you are entitled to yours. You are quite right - you are entitled to your view. Its just that the rationale you use to support it is not very convincing - to me at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Thomas7 Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Just to pass on my info (don't shoot the messenger, please..) Brian Howard to sign on loan till end of the season with view to make the move permanent in summer. (I'd imagine that this is promotion dependant?) He would have joined us last week but stayed at Reading to play in the FA cup this weekend and get his FA cup bonus from making an appearance. That's what I've been told, would love this to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 14 March, 2011 Share Posted 14 March, 2011 Just to pass on my info (don't shoot the messenger, please..) Brian Howard to sign on loan till end of the season with view to make the move permanent in summer. (I'd imagine that this is promotion dependant?) He would have joined us last week but stayed at Reading to play in the FA cup this weekend and get his FA cup bonus from making an appearance. That's what I've been told, would love this to be true. This is no dispect to you and obviously your post is appreciated. But the whole he would have signed last week but for the appearance fee business just seems a little far fetched and a way of explaining why he played today if he was coming on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 14 March, 2011 Share Posted 14 March, 2011 Sam Togwell of S****horpe is a likely target, Adkins signed him for them. But I would like to think that Les Reed will try to get Palace to loan us Darren Ambrose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 14 March, 2011 Share Posted 14 March, 2011 With regards to Adkins, I personally feel it's worth remembering he's still young in management terms. I reckon we've seen him improve a fair bit as a manager just in the time he's been here, and we could have a really good one there... Thomas, with respect to the fact you probably don't want to reveal who your source is, how confident are you in them? Have they had good info before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 14 March, 2011 Share Posted 14 March, 2011 Isn't Howard more of a wide MF player than the central role we are currently after ? But can anyone answer the above ? I'm not sure BH matches what we are currently looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 14 March, 2011 Author Share Posted 14 March, 2011 Were we not 'linked' with Howard befor NA arrived? Just think it's strange that were being linked with a player a previous manager liked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 March, 2011 Share Posted 14 March, 2011 Just think it's strange that were being linked with a player a previous manager liked. Very common in football, as it is not solely down to the manager to make player purchases from the start of the process of identifying targets to the completion of the deal. The scouting team under Pardew would have identified potential targets, just because Pardew left it doesn't mean the club are no longer interested or still tracking players they identified earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwiz Posted 14 March, 2011 Share Posted 14 March, 2011 I have contacted Josh McEachran's uncle. Aint replied yet, he's not the fastest on Facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 14 March, 2011 Share Posted 14 March, 2011 The Howard rumour does surface quite often. He was previously here, lives nearby and from memory was a Saints fan. Would and could make sense as he has been far from a regular at Reading this year and they are set for mid-table mediocrity now out of the cup. I'll ask a few of my Reading supporting friends if they have heard anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 14 March, 2011 Author Share Posted 14 March, 2011 Very common in football, as it is not solely down to the manager to make player purchases from the start of the process of identifying targets to the completion of the deal. The scouting team under Pardew would have identified potential targets, just because Pardew left it doesn't mean the club are no longer interested or still tracking players they identified earlier. Fair comment. Don't know much about the guy, is he the player we need to make the final push? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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