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I dont understand why everyone is getting worked up. All he has done is write a not inaccurate article, attempting to stoking up the "rivalry". All you lot getting angry about it are just doing excatly what was intended. If their cute little club and town want to put down the beach mats and zimmer frames and stand in the street calling us "scummers" let them. Bournemouth are on our radar for one season and one season only. Just remember, it's them doing all the talking, them claiming they dont fear us, them being spiteful. Let them get on with it.

 

Is this because you think they will go up this season or you think Saints will? If the latter, then aren't you being what you accuse other Saints fans of being, arrogant?

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Good luck with that one....

 

It'll never happen - there's just too many idiots on both sides. Even if some Saints fans say they don't care about the match, there will always be the odd poster going on our site or the Echo being an arse! (and vica versa)

 

Its the generalisations that really annoy though - I constantly read posts on here thinking..I don't think that (obsessed with hating 'scummers'), I didn't do that (sing that crap song about going to St.Mary's at Burton)...and it goes on and on - and there are a fair few Bmth fans like me. Also I don't think many of us expect to get 2nd place really, play offs would be great - an incredible achievement after losing a top manager, TWO top scorers and the Patrick Viera of Lge 1 (ok thats going a bit too far..)

 

Just want this bloody game out of the way now - long way to go!!

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[quoteAnd This Bloke Is Supposed To Be A Saints Fan

 

Exactly what I thought when I read it. I generally refrain from criticism of the Echo but I do think this and one or two other Echo articles about the match with Bournemouth are a bit pathetic.

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Is this because you think they will go up this season or you think Saints will? If the latter, then aren't you being what you accuse other Saints fans of being, arrogant?

 

Because i think if they dont go up this season they will do a Swindon, probably lose their best players to other L1 or NPC sides and struggle or at best finish midtable. They have massively overachieved this season and unfortunately the nature of the modern game is small clubs dont do well for a sustained period of time. If we are both still in this league next season i'd think we'd still be challenging for promotion whereas they wont be. The only reason they are on our radar this season is because they have overachieved, if they were struggling do you think they'd have built the game up so much? So no, not arrogant, realistic.

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What a very very sad little man this Meldrum bloke is. Weak, simple, selective, antogonistic and basically lazy journalism written by someone who is clearly a bitter individual. However anyone wants to attempt to partray it Southampton FC is a "relatively" big club in this country. Based on ground capacity which is the most usual indicator of size, we are ranked 17th in all divisions and 2nd in League 1 behind Sheffield Wednesday. Its a total other disussion but because we have only had that size stadium for 10 years I wonder how different our past would have been on hte field if indeed during the 70's, 80,s, and 90's we had been able to attract 30k+ week in week out?!

 

Anyway, the similar little club down the road has a capacity of just under 10K and cant fill that every week when they are having a great season. And here-in lies the vast difference between the clubs. We, once everyone has played the same number of games are quite likely to be 2nd in the division ahead of Bournemouth, but because they have played more games they currently sit there. Sure they are having a good season but because of our history we do have very much higher exectations and quite rightly so. We also have the fanbase the stadium and we have the money. Those three things are the main ingredieents for success in football.get over it Bournemouth.

 

This Cup Final tomorrow is not one for any normal level headed Saints fan. Its merely a game against a team who just happen to be above us at the moment. Its important because they currently have more points despite the games played, and whoever we were playing in the same situation, it would matter that we win.

 

Bournemouth are not our football rivals on a daily, yearly, lifetime basis....Portsmouth are, and that will never change. We are Bournemouths closest Football League team so they obviously feel like we should be. WE ARE NOT!!!

 

Journalists like Meldrum are a disgrace to their profession.If he really does class hmself as a Saints fan then he should really hang his head in shame.

 

Anyway it will probably be a draw tomorrow...!!

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Because i think if they dont go up this season they will do a Swindon, probably lose their best players to other L1 or NPC sides and struggle or at best finish midtable. They have massively overachieved this season and unfortunately the nature of the modern game is small clubs dont do well for a sustained period of time. If we are both still in this league next season i'd think we'd still be challenging for promotion whereas they wont be. The only reason they are on our radar this season is because they have overachieved, if they were struggling do you think they'd have built the game up so much? So no, not arrogant, realistic.

 

one of your posts i like!!

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Personally i don't see how you could be a saints fan & write something like that. He basically takes the **** out of our history especially The Dell. That stadium holds a lot of great memories for us. How can you slag it off like that? The same goes with the players and managers comments. It bends the truth to create a false impression of the club and fans. One that is well out of order. He is saying we as fans are arrogant and he is right. We have earned that right through what we did in our past. We had a fall from grace. Our club is the biggest in league one, that is fact. But we respect all teams and other then this i have heard no issues with us from the other teams. Most of the time we are friendly and respectful to whoever we play. Didn't the oldham manager say only recently "they are too big to be in this league"?

 

If anything i think the arrogance is from them. For years we helped them with loans, staff to help maintain the stadium and even donated money to them when they were in financial struggles. To me this seems nothing but a hatred article written with the purpose of riling us up. Sort of like a troll wanting a reaction because they love the attention. Like earlier in the season when they were taunting us for being higher in the league. If you look at their echo's front page it has "build up to the cup final". They are trying so hard to build this rivalry up that it is just stupid. We have no bad history with them and to try and create one off the back of this kind of thing is lame. We are your promotion chasing rivals nothing more. We have already beaten them twice this year and i don't recall us gloating all over them after those wins. By building the game up and we then win again our fans will gloat, and by doing so will once more give them the ammo to shoot at us. And if they win they will gloat. I can see the headlines now. Which is double standards.

 

The other thing is by writing stuff like that can lead to trouble. There is no need to stoke the fire.

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If it does 'go off' tomorrow it will be more down to the local press than any original animosity between the fans!

 

I thought the article was pretty reasonable aimed at Bournemouth Fans it is just banter for god's sake

 

Just shows what an intolerant bunch of fans we have if there is trouble

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I have a mate who works in a National Press agency and NC is hated with a passion by the local boys (The nationals dont really care less in League 1).

 

The press have an overinflated opinion of their importance in the game (look at things like Sunday Supplement, on Sky). NC has hurt their massive egos and combine that with Eddie Mitchell's nonsense has led to this stupid article. This clown is sucking up to Mitchell, his press buddies and Boscombe's supporters.........

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I feel compelled to write a terse response detailing Mr Meldrum's inaccuracies and poor article.

 

I'm pressed for time however, so I'll just quote this ONE example:

 

Dropping into League One in 2009 did little to halt the disdain among fans and, when Cherries were elevated to the same level as their south coast rivals last season, it was too much for many supporters in the SO postcode to take.

 

Rather than welcome the boot being on the other foot after so many years of playing David to the Premier League’s Goliaths, an undercurrent of arrogance began to seep out of St Mary’s. The tiny club of the 90s was now far too big to welcome the likes of AFC Bournemouth and Dagenham & Redbridge to its 32,000-seater St Mary’s home.

 

 

...and settle for calling him a d1ckhead.

 

You're a d1ckhead.

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This isn't journalism it's comment. There's very little in the way of fact and more interpretation and assumption. As many people have pointed out it's clearly designed to appeal to fans of a Boscombe variety and I suppose it tells them what they want to hear. Personally I find it quite funny - I mean we can't win here can we? If we ignore them we're arrogant and belittling them and if we take up their mantle of being our chief rivals then it's "look how far we've fallen".

 

Personally I can't stand comment - it's just one person's opinion and if I wanted to I could read a blog (or a forum) for that. The opinion is no more valid than yours, mine, or anyone else's with the only difference being that ours haven't been bought, and bought by a paper with the only criteria being write something that gets people riled up.

 

So I guess it's nice try fella but I still don't really care about Boscombe, never have, never will.

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I feel compelled to write a terse response detailing Mr Meldrum's inaccuracies and poor article.

 

I'm pressed for time however, so I'll just quote this ONE example:

 

 

 

 

...and settle for calling him a d1ckhead.

 

You're a d1ckhead.

 

Very restrained Mr Lungs, I'm sure there's one or two queueing up to demonstrate their feelings on the matter a little stronger.

 

Has the Dorset air done funny things to his head, he really must know what he's got coming writing sh*t like that?

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This isn't journalism it's comment. There's very little in the way of fact and more interpretation and assumption. As many people have pointed out it's clearly designed to appeal to fans of a Boscombe variety and I suppose it tells them what they want to hear. Personally I find it quite funny - I mean we can't win here can we? If we ignore them we're arrogant and belittling them and if we take up their mantle of being our chief rivals then it's "look how far we've fallen".

 

Personally I can't stand comment - it's just one person's opinion and if I wanted to I could read a blog (or a forum) for that. The opinion is no more valid than yours, mine, or anyone else's with the only difference being that ours haven't been bought, and bought by a paper with the only criteria being write something that gets people riled up.

 

So I guess it's nice try fella but I still don't really care about Boscombe, never have, never will.

 

perfect...

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SimonC and the decent AFCB fans aside, a personal message from me:

 

Dear Bucket Rattlers

 

Stop it, just stop it. Enough is enough.

 

Your infatuation with us has surpassed even the mildest mannered of Saints supporters now. Those whom, like me, went along to support and contribute to one of the money spinning friendlies between the two clubs when you were in dire financial straights – only to be abused remorselessly for the duration of the game. “Scummers! Scummers!” you shouted at us as we stood there, completely bemused as to where this hatred had come from. Many, like me, had always looked out for Bournemouth results and had cheered whenever the tannoy announcer at The Dell or St.Mary’s announced that the Cherries had won.

 

You have left us feeling rather confused and if truth be told, a little angry. I know I am.

 

You accuse us of arrogance. That’s an incredible statement coming from a side that has dwelled beneath us for decades. Sure, some Saints fans have in the past alluded to the fact that we are probably too big a club for this league. That’s the truth. If you’d take the time to look at the facts then you might agree, too.

 

We average more than many Premier League clubs and likewise, Championship clubs. However, don’t be fooled; we KNOW implicitly that football is not decided on attendances alone. We know we must earn the right to get out of this division like everyone else. Don’t confuse “arrogance” with what is clearly an educated and correct assessment of the size of our club. We are a medium sized Premier League club and no amount of bleating and accusations of arrogance will change that.

 

Yet you must also remember that despite this, most if not all Saints fans recognise that we have no god-given right to be a Premier League side.

 

So, with that in mind, please dispel any misconceptions you have about us being arrogant.

 

Bournemouth, on the other hand, can be dutifully proud of their own snobbish and arrogant behaviour. One season at level pegging with us divisionally and you’ve gone into meltdown. You have the temerity to accuse us of arrogance while chomping on your sticks of rock.

 

Then, at another level, you are very quick to forget that we did help you in the times you needed financial help. Neil Moss, remember him? Advance payment. Loan players like Surman and Lallana in recent years… remember them? Friendlies, fundraisers and pitch maintenance equipment too – you even received help from our ground staff!

 

Is it me, or have you forgotten to thank us?

 

Christ, it’s like dealing with a spoilt child. And before you begin whining that I’ve mentioned that we’ve helped you and you accuse my comments of atypical arrogance that you’ve received from us, please remember one thing; Did you, or did you not receive that help?

 

Yes. Yes you did. If anyone is arrogant, it is you for completely bypassing those parts of your history.

 

But we’re not done yet. Oh no, I’ve still more points to make.

 

Let’s talk about your “plucky underdog” mentality.

 

“Big bad Southampton” are coming to visit. “Nasty, horrible Southampton” whose fans kill babies and rape women (and men, probably too – I’ve seen the scaremongering rubbish in your local paper from Neil Meldrum). Led by their evil mastermind, Don Cortese!

 

Give it a rest you morons.

 

You like to remind us that we too, are a “nothing club”. In terms of the top six or so clubs in the Premier League and a few traditional founding football members spattered across the leagues or now defunct, yes, you’re right. We’ve achieved nothing. Yet, if our best achievements include treading water in the top division for 27 consecutive years amongst the real big, bad bullies of the Premier League and a couple of cup final appearances, then I'd take that over "plucky Bournemouth". Remind us, what have you achieved?

 

Oh, that’s right. You’re a “plucky underdog”, I remember now. Still, teams of a similar size have achieved far more than you in recent times. Blackpool? Well, they’re in the Premier League. Hull? Swindon? Notts County? Oldham? They’ve all been in the top division over the past twenty years. Brighton? Colchester, S****horpe, Plymouth, Luton, Southend, Bury, Crewe, Walsall, Stockport, Doncaster? They’ve got further than you, too. That’s a lot of plucky underdogs not weighed down with a significant chip on their shoulders.

 

Hell, even MK Dons have won more in their short existence than you lot.

 

So that makes you a "plucky, underachieving underdog". Diddums.

 

So if you’re going to remind us that our existence in the Premier League was pointless than I am almost duty-bound to remind you that you’ve been nothing in the lower leagues too. Forgive me. Oh no, wait - poke it. I'm not done yet.

 

And by the way, I’d take our Matt Le Tissier memories to your Roger Boli moments every day of the week, ta.

 

At first, you reminded me of Portsmouth’s annoying little brother with all the “Scummer” comments. It was almost as if you were pulling at your big brothers coat tails and saying “Look, look, we called them a scummer too!”.

 

But over the past few days (possibly weeks), you’ve been frothing at the mouth, fantasising about playing us again and creating some sort of rivalry. From being Portsmouth’s annoying, perhaps retarded little brother you’ve transformed. Forgive me, but in my imagination now you’ve morphed into a crazed, wide-eyed stalker. You’re obsessed with us, yet you are convinced that despite our constant reaffirmation that we don’t care about you, it’s us who is stalking you.

 

Truth is you’ve been tailing us ever since the final whistle at Burton Albion.

 

“Que sera sera, whatever will be, will be, we’re going to St.Mary’s, que sera sera”

 

Remember that? How cringeworthy. Yet you say its our Cup final and not yours? Are you sure about that, or are you just being arrogant? Hang on, I thought you said you were the “plucky underdogs”? Which is it, Cherries?

 

So, from a benign if slightly annoying neighbour to a crazy, rabidly obsessed one. The type whom is always peering through his binoculars and into our garden. Dare we show any affection?

 

Cherries, you’ll never be our rivals for any long-term period of time. All that you’ve achieved from your continuous baiting, bickering and belittling of Saints is a loss of empathy and ultimately, support from Saints fans – which, if truth be told, you had in abundance up until a couple of years back. We feel more inclined to laugh at you now than help you but anyway, that's what you always wanted, right? You never wanted our sympathy, you keep reminding us. That's ok then - just don't ever come rattling your buckets this way again because it won't be money going in it this time.

 

Some of us who were present at one of those many fundraising games have never forgotten our “welcome” and how ungracious you were and continue to be. That said, most Saints fans have only come to realise in recent days in the build up to this game what prized pillocks most of you are. You have been spiteful and petty. You have been rude and arrogant. With any luck, you'll finally be put in your rightful place (sectioned, if I were to keep with the analogy I described above) tomorrow when the Premier League juggernaut rolls into your quaint, 12000 capacity but rarely full, field of dreams. How's that for arrogance?

 

 

Enjoy your Cup Final.

 

 

 

Afterthoughts...

 

PS: Many of your fans have arrogantly panned The Dell and/or St. Mary’s in recent times. Whatever your observation, at the very least our stadiums have always had four sides operational. Think about it.

PPS: You’ve also criticised our attendances. Have a think about that one… we get more than many Premier League and Championship clubs. Remind us of what you get again?

PPPS: Get your own radio station, you’ve been clogging up Radio Solent for years now and it’s getting as tiresome as your stalker-like advances towards us.

PPPPS: If I ever come into to any money I'm going to partner up with Marc Jackson, buy AFBC, demolish Dean Court and put a monkey chicken petting zoo there. At least it'll guarantee more than 5,000 visitors every Saturday.

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"when Cherries were elevated to the same level as their south coast rivals last season, it was too much for many supporters in the SO postcode to take. "

 

A bit dramatic, when Bournemouth got promoted last season I don't remember speaking to one Saints fan who didn't want them to go up, was more a shrug of the shoulders.

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I thought the article was pretty reasonable aimed at Bournemouth Fans it is just banter for god's sake

 

Just shows what an intolerant bunch of fans we have if there is trouble

 

The voice of sanity. It's banter, enjoy it for what it is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I bet it will be great game and memorable occasion.

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SimonC and the decent AFCB fans aside, a personal message from me:

 

Dear Bucket Rattlers

 

Stop it, just stop it. Enough is enough.

 

Your infatuation with us has surpassed even the mildest mannered of Saints supporters now. Those whom, like me, went along to support and contribute to one of the money spinning friendlies between the two clubs when you were in dire financial straights – only to be abused remorselessly for the duration of the game. “Scummers! Scummers!” you shouted at us as we stood there, completely bemused as to where this hatred had come from. Many, like me, had always looked out for Bournemouth results and had cheered whenever the tannoy announcer at The Dell or St.Mary’s announced that the Cherries had won.

 

You have left us feeling rather confused and if truth be told, a little angry. I know I am.

 

You accuse us of arrogance. That’s an incredible statement coming from a side that has dwelled beneath us for decades. Sure, some Saints fans have in the past alluded to the fact that we are probably too big a club for this league. That’s the truth. If you’d take the time to look at the facts then you might agree, too.

 

We average more than many Premier League clubs and likewise, Championship clubs. However, don’t be fooled; we KNOW implicitly that football is not decided on attendances alone. We know we must earn the right to get out of this division like everyone else. Don’t confuse “arrogance” with what is clearly an educated and correct assessment of the size of our club. We are a medium sized Premier League club and no amount of bleating and accusations of arrogance will change that.

 

Yet you must also remember that despite this, most if not all Saints fans recognise that we have no god-given right to be a Premier League side.

 

So, with that in mind, please dispel any misconceptions you have about us being arrogant.

 

Bournemouth, on the other hand, can be dutifully proud of their own snobbish and arrogant behaviour. One season at level pegging with us divisionally and you’ve gone into meltdown. You have the temerity to accuse us of arrogance while chomping on your sticks of rock.

 

Then, at another level, you are very quick to forget that we did help you in the times you needed financial help. Neil Moss, remember him? Advance payment. Loan players like Surman and Lallana in recent years… remember them? Friendlies, fundraisers and pitch maintenance equipment too – you even received help from our ground staff!

 

Is it me, or have you forgotten to thank us?

 

Christ, it’s like dealing with a spoilt child. And before you begin whining that I’ve mentioned that we’ve helped you and you accuse my comments of atypical arrogance that you’ve received from us, please remember one thing; Did you, or did you not receive that help?

 

Yes. Yes you did. If anyone is arrogant, it is you for completely bypassing those parts of your history.

 

But we’re not done yet. Oh no, I’ve still more points to make.

 

Let’s talk about your “plucky underdog” mentality.

 

“Big bad Southampton” are coming to visit. “Nasty, horrible Southampton” whose fans kill babies and rape women (and men, probably too – I’ve seen the scaremongering rubbish in your local paper from Neil Meldrum). Led by their evil mastermind, Don Cortese!

 

Give it a rest you morons.

 

You like to remind us that we too, are a “nothing club”. In terms of the top six or so clubs in the Premier League and a few traditional founding football members spattered across the leagues or now defunct, yes, you’re right. We’ve achieved nothing. Yet, if our best achievements include treading water in the top division for 27 consecutive years amongst the real big, bad bullies of the Premier League and a couple of cup final appearances, then I'd take that over "plucky Bournemouth". Remind us, what have you achieved?

 

Oh, that’s right. You’re a “plucky underdog”, I remember now. Still, teams of a similar size have achieved far more than you in recent times. Blackpool? Well, they’re in the Premier League. Hull? Swindon? Notts County? Oldham? They’ve all been in the top division over the past twenty years. Brighton? Colchester, S****horpe, Plymouth, Luton, Southend, Bury, Crewe, Walsall, Stockport, Doncaster? They’ve got further than you, too. That’s a lot of plucky underdogs not weighed down with a significant chip on their shoulders.

 

Hell, even MK Dons have won more in their short existence than you lot.

 

So that makes you a "plucky, underachieving underdog". Diddums.

 

So if you’re going to remind us that our existence in the Premier League was pointless than I am almost duty-bound to remind you that you’ve been nothing in the lower leagues too. Forgive me. Oh no, wait - poke it. I'm not done yet.

 

And by the way, I’d take our Matt Le Tissier memories to your Roger Boli moments every day of the week, ta.

 

At first, you reminded me of Portsmouth’s annoying little brother with all the “Scummer” comments. It was almost as if you were pulling at your big brothers coat tails and saying “Look, look, we called them a scummer too!”.

 

But over the past few days (possibly weeks), you’ve been frothing at the mouth, fantasising about playing us again and creating some sort of rivalry. From being Portsmouth’s annoying, perhaps retarded little brother you’ve transformed. Forgive me, but in my imagination now you’ve morphed into a crazed, wide-eyed stalker. You’re obsessed with us, yet you are convinced that despite our constant reaffirmation that we don’t care about you, it’s us who is stalking you.

 

Truth is you’ve been tailing us ever since the final whistle at Burton Albion.

 

“Que sera sera, whatever will be, will be, we’re going to St.Mary’s, que sera sera”

 

Remember that? How cringeworthy. Yet you say its our Cup final and not yours? Are you sure about that, or are you just being arrogant? Hang on, I thought you said you were the “plucky underdogs”? Which is it, Cherries?

 

So, from a benign if slightly annoying neighbour to a crazy, rabidly obsessed one. The type whom is always peering through his binoculars and into our garden. Dare we show any affection?

 

Cherries, you’ll never be our rivals for any long-term period of time. All that you’ve achieved from your continuous baiting, bickering and belittling of Saints is a loss of empathy and ultimately, support from Saints fans – which, if truth be told, you had in abundance up until a couple of years back. We feel more inclined to laugh at you now than help you but anyway, that's what you always wanted, right? You never wanted our sympathy, you keep reminding us. That's ok then - just don't ever come rattling your buckets this way again because it won't be money going in it this time.

 

Some of us who were present at one of those many fundraising games have never forgotten our “welcome” and how ungracious you were and continue to be. That said, most Saints fans have only come to realise in recent days in the build up to this game what prized pillocks most of you are. You have been spiteful and petty. You have been rude and arrogant. With any luck, you'll finally be put in your rightful place (sectioned, if I were to keep with the analogy I described above) tomorrow when the Premier League juggernaut rolls into your quaint, 12000 capacity but rarely full, field of dreams. How's that for arrogance?

 

 

Enjoy your Cup Final.

 

 

 

Afterthoughts...

 

PS: Many of your fans have arrogantly panned The Dell and/or St. Mary’s in recent times. Whatever your observation, at the very least our stadiums have always had four sides operational. Think about it.

PPS: You’ve also criticised our attendances. Have a think about that one… we get more than many Premier League and Championship clubs. Remind us of what you get again?

PPPS: Get your own radio station, you’ve been clogging up Radio Solent for years now and it’s getting as tiresome as your stalker-like advances towards us.

PPPPS: If I ever come into to any money I'm going to partner up with Marc Jackson, buy AFBC, demolish Dean Court and put a monkey chicken petting zoo there. At least it'll guarantee more than 5,000 visitors every Saturday.

 

 

feck me you have posted it twice!!!

 

dont people read your posts...? im not suprised..looks like you have verbal diarrhea

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I'm shocked by the completely amateur and irresponsible level of journalism shown by NM,and also by an editor who would have approved it?.........Should there be any trouble, and I hope not, then I hope his piece of gutter inflammatory trash is shown to a media ombudsman. Rant over come on you Saints!!!!

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Really?! Why the dispear then everytime we fail to win? Who at the start of the season exepected automatic promotion? In fact many people on here said only the top 2 was acceptable, is that not arrogant? There is nothing wrong with being arrogant when you are good and when you deliver, but when you dont you end up looking like a c*nt.

 

This is football nothing is guaranteed that what makes it the game it is, look at Blackpool, all saints fan want us to win and get us back to when we all saw us playing in a higher division, Bournemouth and many of the teams in this league havn't seen their team in a higher division.

We should on our financial backing get promoted but we are no different as already stated as such teams as Man City, Leeds, Norwich and Sheff Wed. Can't see where this arrogant slant comes from smacks of a bit of jealousy perhaps and an easy target for some more rivalry

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any outsider will see it as jealousy and not see any significance other than current league table.

 

think they are getting carried away with the luck that their short good time coincided with our short bad time - otherwise they are pretty irrelevant

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SimonC and the decent AFCB fans aside, a personal message from me:

 

Dear Bucket Rattlers

 

Stop it, just stop it. Enough is enough.

 

Your infatuation with us has surpassed even the mildest mannered of Saints supporters now. Those whom, like me, went along to support and contribute to one of the money spinning friendlies between the two clubs when you were in dire financial straights – only to be abused remorselessly for the duration of the game. “Scummers! Scummers!” you shouted at us as we stood there, completely bemused as to where this hatred had come from. Many, like me, had always looked out for Bournemouth results and had cheered whenever the tannoy announcer at The Dell or St.Mary’s announced that the Cherries had won.

 

You have left us feeling rather confused and if truth be told, a little angry. I know I am.

 

You accuse us of arrogance. That’s an incredible statement coming from a side that has dwelled beneath us for decades. Sure, some Saints fans have in the past alluded to the fact that we are probably too big a club for this league. That’s the truth. If you’d take the time to look at the facts then you might agree, too.

 

We average more than many Premier League clubs and likewise, Championship clubs. However, don’t be fooled; we KNOW implicitly that football is not decided on attendances alone. We know we must earn the right to get out of this division like everyone else. Don’t confuse “arrogance” with what is clearly an educated and correct assessment of the size of our club. We are a medium sized Premier League club and no amount of bleating and accusations of arrogance will change that.

 

Yet you must also remember that despite this, most if not all Saints fans recognise that we have no god-given right to be a Premier League side.

 

So, with that in mind, please dispel any misconceptions you have about us being arrogant.

 

The arrogance which some accuse you of is actually highlighted in the first part of your rant, yes you came down for a friendly and some may have thrown money into buckets, thanks for that, thanks also goes out to the numerous other teams who did the same, however I haven't heard them bang on about it for weeks after let alone years.

 

That is something that riles me, I know it shouldn't but it does, having lived in your City for a few years the number of times I heard it was amazing, some (I completely understand that one person doesn't represent a whole club) truly believe it was Southampton that saved AFC Bournemouth, when in reality a lot of hard work and years of debt afterwards was what saved us, not the money you refer too...but I could go on.

 

I've thrown money into buckets for other clubs, I can't even remember who or how many, it's just something you do as we all know how much our clubs mean to one another, I didn't do it for a thank you, I did it as I sympathise with all supporters of football clubs. However some Southampton supporters appear to want a letter of thanks for it.

 

Bournemouth, on the other hand, can be dutifully proud of their own snobbish and arrogant behaviour. One season at level pegging with us divisionally and you’ve gone into meltdown. You have the temerity to accuse us of arrogance while chomping on your sticks of rock.

 

Then, at another level, you are very quick to forget that we did help you in the times you needed financial help. Neil Moss, remember him? Advance payment. Loan players like Surman and Lallana in recent years… remember them? Friendlies, fundraisers and pitch maintenance equipment too – you even received help from our ground staff!

 

Is it me, or have you forgotten to thank us?

 

Christ, it’s like dealing with a spoilt child. And before you begin whining that I’ve mentioned that we’ve helped you and you accuse my comments of atypical arrogance that you’ve received from us, please remember one thing; Did you, or did you not receive that help?

 

Yes. Yes you did. If anyone is arrogant, it is you for completely bypassing those parts of your history.

 

I'll skip over the whole "thanking you" part again and concentrate on the other points.

 

Southampton benefited from loaning players to us, just as much (if not more) than we received by having them, they were sent down to us, knowing they'd learn, develop and gain experience, there was no other reason for it, certainly not seen as a favour.

 

As for Lallana, he came through our youth development and was pinched, so not exactly much of a favour there either.

 

Pitch etc, not free, irrelevant, one member of your ground staff also worked at our ground, so what?

 

But we’re not done yet. Oh no, I’ve still more points to make.

 

Let’s talk about your “plucky underdog” mentality.

 

“Big bad Southampton” are coming to visit. “Nasty, horrible Southampton” whose fans kill babies and rape women (and men, probably too – I’ve seen the scaremongering rubbish in your local paper from Neil Meldrum). Led by their evil mastermind, Don Cortese!

 

Give it a rest you morons.

 

Meldrum is a Southampton fan.

 

You like to remind us that we too, are a “nothing club”. In terms of the top six or so clubs in the Premier League and a few traditional founding football members spattered across the leagues or now defunct, yes, you’re right. We’ve achieved nothing. Yet, if our best achievements include treading water in the top division for 27 consecutive years amongst the real big, bad bullies of the Premier League and a couple of cup final appearances, then I'd take that over "plucky Bournemouth". Remind us, what have you achieved?

 

Oh, that’s right. You’re a “plucky underdog”, I remember now. Still, teams of a similar size have achieved far more than you in recent times. Blackpool? Well, they’re in the Premier League. Hull? Swindon? Notts County? Oldham? They’ve all been in the top division over the past twenty years. Brighton? Colchester, S****horpe, Plymouth, Luton, Southend, Bury, Crewe, Walsall, Stockport, Doncaster? They’ve got further than you, too. That’s a lot of plucky underdogs not weighed down with a significant chip on their shoulders.

 

Hell, even MK Dons have won more in their short existence than you lot.

 

So that makes you a "plucky, underachieving underdog". Diddums.

 

So if you’re going to remind us that our existence in the Premier League was pointless than I am almost duty-bound to remind you that you’ve been nothing in the lower leagues too. Forgive me. Oh no, wait - poke it. I'm not done yet.

 

And by the way, I’d take our Matt Le Tissier memories to your Roger Boli moments every day of the week, ta.

 

At first, you reminded me of Portsmouth’s annoying little brother with all the “Scummer” comments. It was almost as if you were pulling at your big brothers coat tails and saying “Look, look, we called them a scummer too!”.

 

But over the past few days (possibly weeks), you’ve been frothing at the mouth, fantasising about playing us again and creating some sort of rivalry. From being Portsmouth’s annoying, perhaps retarded little brother you’ve transformed. Forgive me, but in my imagination now you’ve morphed into a crazed, wide-eyed stalker. You’re obsessed with us, yet you are convinced that despite our constant reaffirmation that we don’t care about you, it’s us who is stalking you.

 

Truth is you’ve been tailing us ever since the final whistle at Burton Albion.

 

“Que sera sera, whatever will be, will be, we’re going to St.Mary’s, que sera sera”

 

Remember that? How cringeworthy. Yet you say its our Cup final and not yours? Are you sure about that, or are you just being arrogant? Hang on, I thought you said you were the “plucky underdogs”? Which is it, Cherries?

 

I'm not going to comment on that little tirade, personally I don't care where Southampton have been for 27 years as I'm an AFC Bournemouth fan and concentrate on supporting them no matter what league we're in, it's all irrelevant to me.

 

As for the "Que sera sera, whatever will be, will be", it was banter, as we had won promotion and you had stayed in League One, when we went down to League Two we sang Que sera sera, whatever will be, will be, we're going to Shrewsbury... that wasn't our "Cup Final" either.

 

The banter in the media from the Echo and some of our fans, plays off of what has come from some of your supporters and Adkins comments regarding every game you play being a Cup final, it's banter, smacked with a heap of sarcasm, hence jokes about silver foil cups and Abide with me being sung, it's all done as a laugh.

 

most Saints fans have only come to realise in recent days in the build up to this game what prized pillocks most of you are. You have been spiteful and petty. You have been rude and arrogant. With any luck, you'll finally be put in your rightful place (sectioned, if I were to keep with the analogy I described above) tomorrow when the Premier League juggernaut rolls into your quaint, 12000 capacity but rarely full, field of dreams. How's that for arrogance?

 

Nice you've done well there.

 

PPPPS: If I ever come into to any money I'm going to partner up with Marc Jackson, buy AFBC, demolish Dean Court and put a monkey chicken petting zoo there. At least it'll guarantee more than 5,000 visitors every Saturday.

 

"monkey chicken petting zoo" at least be original.

 

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SimonC and the decent AFCB fans aside, a personal message from me:

 

Dear Bucket Rattlers

 

Stop it, just stop it. Enough is enough.

 

Your infatuation with us has surpassed even the mildest mannered of Saints supporters now. Those whom, like me, went along to support and contribute to one of the money spinning friendlies between the two clubs when you were in dire financial straights – only to be abused remorselessly for the duration of the game. “Scummers! Scummers!” you shouted at us as we stood there, completely bemused as to where this hatred had come from. Many, like me, had always looked out for Bournemouth results and had cheered whenever the tannoy announcer at The Dell or St.Mary’s announced that the Cherries had won.

 

You have left us feeling rather confused and if truth be told, a little angry. I know I am.

 

You accuse us of arrogance. That’s an incredible statement coming from a side that has dwelled beneath us for decades. Sure, some Saints fans have in the past alluded to the fact that we are probably too big a club for this league. That’s the truth. If you’d take the time to look at the facts then you might agree, too.

 

We average more than many Premier League clubs and likewise, Championship clubs. However, don’t be fooled; we KNOW implicitly that football is not decided on attendances alone. We know we must earn the right to get out of this division like everyone else. Don’t confuse “arrogance” with what is clearly an educated and correct assessment of the size of our club. We are a medium sized Premier League club and no amount of bleating and accusations of arrogance will change that.

 

Yet you must also remember that despite this, most if not all Saints fans recognise that we have no god-given right to be a Premier League side.

 

So, with that in mind, please dispel any misconceptions you have about us being arrogant.

 

Bournemouth, on the other hand, can be dutifully proud of their own snobbish and arrogant behaviour. One season at level pegging with us divisionally and you’ve gone into meltdown. You have the temerity to accuse us of arrogance while chomping on your sticks of rock.

 

Then, at another level, you are very quick to forget that we did help you in the times you needed financial help. Neil Moss, remember him? Advance payment. Loan players like Surman and Lallana in recent years… remember them? Friendlies, fundraisers and pitch maintenance equipment too – you even received help from our ground staff!

 

Is it me, or have you forgotten to thank us?

 

Christ, it’s like dealing with a spoilt child. And before you begin whining that I’ve mentioned that we’ve helped you and you accuse my comments of atypical arrogance that you’ve received from us, please remember one thing; Did you, or did you not receive that help?

 

Yes. Yes you did. If anyone is arrogant, it is you for completely bypassing those parts of your history.

 

But we’re not done yet. Oh no, I’ve still more points to make.

 

Let’s talk about your “plucky underdog” mentality.

 

“Big bad Southampton” are coming to visit. “Nasty, horrible Southampton” whose fans kill babies and rape women (and men, probably too – I’ve seen the scaremongering rubbish in your local paper from Neil Meldrum). Led by their evil mastermind, Don Cortese!

 

Give it a rest you morons.

 

You like to remind us that we too, are a “nothing club”. In terms of the top six or so clubs in the Premier League and a few traditional founding football members spattered across the leagues or now defunct, yes, you’re right. We’ve achieved nothing. Yet, if our best achievements include treading water in the top division for 27 consecutive years amongst the real big, bad bullies of the Premier League and a couple of cup final appearances, then I'd take that over "plucky Bournemouth". Remind us, what have you achieved?

 

Oh, that’s right. You’re a “plucky underdog”, I remember now. Still, teams of a similar size have achieved far more than you in recent times. Blackpool? Well, they’re in the Premier League. Hull? Swindon? Notts County? Oldham? They’ve all been in the top division over the past twenty years. Brighton? Colchester, S****horpe, Plymouth, Luton, Southend, Bury, Crewe, Walsall, Stockport, Doncaster? They’ve got further than you, too. That’s a lot of plucky underdogs not weighed down with a significant chip on their shoulders.

 

Hell, even MK Dons have won more in their short existence than you lot.

 

So that makes you a "plucky, underachieving underdog". Diddums.

 

So if you’re going to remind us that our existence in the Premier League was pointless than I am almost duty-bound to remind you that you’ve been nothing in the lower leagues too. Forgive me. Oh no, wait - poke it. I'm not done yet.

 

And by the way, I’d take our Matt Le Tissier memories to your Roger Boli moments every day of the week, ta.

 

At first, you reminded me of Portsmouth’s annoying little brother with all the “Scummer” comments. It was almost as if you were pulling at your big brothers coat tails and saying “Look, look, we called them a scummer too!”.

 

But over the past few days (possibly weeks), you’ve been frothing at the mouth, fantasising about playing us again and creating some sort of rivalry. From being Portsmouth’s annoying, perhaps retarded little brother you’ve transformed. Forgive me, but in my imagination now you’ve morphed into a crazed, wide-eyed stalker. You’re obsessed with us, yet you are convinced that despite our constant reaffirmation that we don’t care about you, it’s us who is stalking you.

 

Truth is you’ve been tailing us ever since the final whistle at Burton Albion.

 

“Que sera sera, whatever will be, will be, we’re going to St.Mary’s, que sera sera”

 

Remember that? How cringeworthy. Yet you say its our Cup final and not yours? Are you sure about that, or are you just being arrogant? Hang on, I thought you said you were the “plucky underdogs”? Which is it, Cherries?

 

So, from a benign if slightly annoying neighbour to a crazy, rabidly obsessed one. The type whom is always peering through his binoculars and into our garden. Dare we show any affection?

 

Cherries, you’ll never be our rivals for any long-term period of time. All that you’ve achieved from your continuous baiting, bickering and belittling of Saints is a loss of empathy and ultimately, support from Saints fans – which, if truth be told, you had in abundance up until a couple of years back. We feel more inclined to laugh at you now than help you but anyway, that's what you always wanted, right? You never wanted our sympathy, you keep reminding us. That's ok then - just don't ever come rattling your buckets this way again because it won't be money going in it this time.

 

Some of us who were present at one of those many fundraising games have never forgotten our “welcome” and how ungracious you were and continue to be. That said, most Saints fans have only come to realise in recent days in the build up to this game what prized pillocks most of you are. You have been spiteful and petty. You have been rude and arrogant. With any luck, you'll finally be put in your rightful place (sectioned, if I were to keep with the analogy I described above) tomorrow when the Premier League juggernaut rolls into your quaint, 12000 capacity but rarely full, field of dreams. How's that for arrogance?

 

 

Enjoy your Cup Final.

 

 

 

Afterthoughts...

 

PS: Many of your fans have arrogantly panned The Dell and/or St. Mary’s in recent times. Whatever your observation, at the very least our stadiums have always had four sides operational. Think about it.

PPS: You’ve also criticised our attendances. Have a think about that one… we get more than many Premier League and Championship clubs. Remind us of what you get again?

PPPS: Get your own radio station, you’ve been clogging up Radio Solent for years now and it’s getting as tiresome as your stalker-like advances towards us.

PPPPS: If I ever come into to any money I'm going to partner up with Marc Jackson, buy AFBC, demolish Dean Court and put a monkey chicken petting zoo there. At least it'll guarantee more than 5,000 visitors every Saturday.

 

Who is infatuated with who again?

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Utter utter tripe unfortunately a few "fans" with an agenda think like that on this forum.

Anyway its not even a must win game for us but it is for Boscombe...............

 

Given this was pretty much what I was going to write I'll just agree and say nothing else.

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Oh for FS..... Its a comment post in the Bournemouth Echo. It doesn't laud Saints. Jeez - what the Fark do you expect? Southmpto Echo to write pages in praise of weymouth or something???

 

What I find surprising is that Crab KLunkgs can waste 30 minutes of his life on a meaningless rant to the toilet wall. Plus me wasting a couple of minutes positing this.

 

Fans. Are. Fans. They. Are. Not. Objective. And. Don't. Want. To. Be.

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Really?

 

saints average league attendence 21,615

sheff wednesday average league attendence 18,364

 

What ever has happened in the past we are the biggest club in league one right now.

 

You just shot your own case down mate.

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Oh for FS..... Its a comment post in the Bournemouth Echo. It doesn't laud Saints. Jeez - what the Fark do you expect? Southmpto Echo to write pages in praise of weymouth or something???

 

What I find surprising is that Crab KLunkgs can waste 30 minutes of his life on a meaningless rant to the toilet wall. Plus me wasting a couple of minutes positing this.

 

Fans. Are. Fans. They. Are. Not. Objective. And. Don't. Want. To. Be.

 

I had to get that off my chest. Like you said, fans aren't objective but I've tried to be as much as possible. They're annoying. They're irritating. I've risen above it for a good few years now. Surely you can afford me a rant having waited to so long?

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SimonC and the decent AFCB fans aside, a personal message from me:

 

Dear Bucket Rattlers

 

Stop it, just stop it. Enough is enough.

 

Your infatuation with us has surpassed even the mildest mannered of Saints supporters now. Those whom, like me, went along to support and contribute to one of the money spinning friendlies between the two clubs when you were in dire financial straights – only to be abused remorselessly for the duration of the game. “Scummers! Scummers!” you shouted at us as we stood there, completely bemused as to where this hatred had come from. Many, like me, had always looked out for Bournemouth results and had cheered whenever the tannoy announcer at The Dell or St.Mary’s announced that the Cherries had won.

 

You have left us feeling rather confused and if truth be told, a little angry. I know I am.

 

You accuse us of arrogance. That’s an incredible statement coming from a side that has dwelled beneath us for decades. Sure, some Saints fans have in the past alluded to the fact that we are probably too big a club for this league. That’s the truth. If you’d take the time to look at the facts then you might agree, too.

 

We average more than many Premier League clubs and likewise, Championship clubs. However, don’t be fooled; we KNOW implicitly that football is not decided on attendances alone. We know we must earn the right to get out of this division like everyone else. Don’t confuse “arrogance” with what is clearly an educated and correct assessment of the size of our club. We are a medium sized Premier League club and no amount of bleating and accusations of arrogance will change that.

 

Yet you must also remember that despite this, most if not all Saints fans recognise that we have no god-given right to be a Premier League side.

 

So, with that in mind, please dispel any misconceptions you have about us being arrogant.

 

Bournemouth, on the other hand, can be dutifully proud of their own snobbish and arrogant behaviour. One season at level pegging with us divisionally and you’ve gone into meltdown. You have the temerity to accuse us of arrogance while chomping on your sticks of rock.

 

Then, at another level, you are very quick to forget that we did help you in the times you needed financial help. Neil Moss, remember him? Advance payment. Loan players like Surman and Lallana in recent years… remember them? Friendlies, fundraisers and pitch maintenance equipment too – you even received help from our ground staff!

 

Is it me, or have you forgotten to thank us?

 

Christ, it’s like dealing with a spoilt child. And before you begin whining that I’ve mentioned that we’ve helped you and you accuse my comments of atypical arrogance that you’ve received from us, please remember one thing; Did you, or did you not receive that help?

 

Yes. Yes you did. If anyone is arrogant, it is you for completely bypassing those parts of your history.

 

But we’re not done yet. Oh no, I’ve still more points to make.

 

Let’s talk about your “plucky underdog” mentality.

 

“Big bad Southampton” are coming to visit. “Nasty, horrible Southampton” whose fans kill babies and rape women (and men, probably too – I’ve seen the scaremongering rubbish in your local paper from Neil Meldrum). Led by their evil mastermind, Don Cortese!

 

Give it a rest you morons.

 

You like to remind us that we too, are a “nothing club”. In terms of the top six or so clubs in the Premier League and a few traditional founding football members spattered across the leagues or now defunct, yes, you’re right. We’ve achieved nothing. Yet, if our best achievements include treading water in the top division for 27 consecutive years amongst the real big, bad bullies of the Premier League and a couple of cup final appearances, then I'd take that over "plucky Bournemouth". Remind us, what have you achieved?

 

Oh, that’s right. You’re a “plucky underdog”, I remember now. Still, teams of a similar size have achieved far more than you in recent times. Blackpool? Well, they’re in the Premier League. Hull? Swindon? Notts County? Oldham? They’ve all been in the top division over the past twenty years. Brighton? Colchester, S****horpe, Plymouth, Luton, Southend, Bury, Crewe, Walsall, Stockport, Doncaster? They’ve got further than you, too. That’s a lot of plucky underdogs not weighed down with a significant chip on their shoulders.

 

Hell, even MK Dons have won more in their short existence than you lot.

 

So that makes you a "plucky, underachieving underdog". Diddums.

 

So if you’re going to remind us that our existence in the Premier League was pointless than I am almost duty-bound to remind you that you’ve been nothing in the lower leagues too. Forgive me. Oh no, wait - poke it. I'm not done yet.

 

And by the way, I’d take our Matt Le Tissier memories to your Roger Boli moments every day of the week, ta.

 

At first, you reminded me of Portsmouth’s annoying little brother with all the “Scummer” comments. It was almost as if you were pulling at your big brothers coat tails and saying “Look, look, we called them a scummer too!”.

 

But over the past few days (possibly weeks), you’ve been frothing at the mouth, fantasising about playing us again and creating some sort of rivalry. From being Portsmouth’s annoying, perhaps retarded little brother you’ve transformed. Forgive me, but in my imagination now you’ve morphed into a crazed, wide-eyed stalker. You’re obsessed with us, yet you are convinced that despite our constant reaffirmation that we don’t care about you, it’s us who is stalking you.

 

Truth is you’ve been tailing us ever since the final whistle at Burton Albion.

 

“Que sera sera, whatever will be, will be, we’re going to St.Mary’s, que sera sera”

 

Remember that? How cringeworthy. Yet you say its our Cup final and not yours? Are you sure about that, or are you just being arrogant? Hang on, I thought you said you were the “plucky underdogs”? Which is it, Cherries?

 

So, from a benign if slightly annoying neighbour to a crazy, rabidly obsessed one. The type whom is always peering through his binoculars and into our garden. Dare we show any affection?

 

Cherries, you’ll never be our rivals for any long-term period of time. All that you’ve achieved from your continuous baiting, bickering and belittling of Saints is a loss of empathy and ultimately, support from Saints fans – which, if truth be told, you had in abundance up until a couple of years back. We feel more inclined to laugh at you now than help you but anyway, that's what you always wanted, right? You never wanted our sympathy, you keep reminding us. That's ok then - just don't ever come rattling your buckets this way again because it won't be money going in it this time.

 

Some of us who were present at one of those many fundraising games have never forgotten our “welcome” and how ungracious you were and continue to be. That said, most Saints fans have only come to realise in recent days in the build up to this game what prized pillocks most of you are. You have been spiteful and petty. You have been rude and arrogant. With any luck, you'll finally be put in your rightful place (sectioned, if I were to keep with the analogy I described above) tomorrow when the Premier League juggernaut rolls into your quaint, 12000 capacity but rarely full, field of dreams. How's that for arrogance?

 

 

Enjoy your Cup Final.

 

 

 

Afterthoughts...

 

PS: Many of your fans have arrogantly panned The Dell and/or St. Mary’s in recent times. Whatever your observation, at the very least our stadiums have always had four sides operational. Think about it.

PPS: You’ve also criticised our attendances. Have a think about that one… we get more than many Premier League and Championship clubs. Remind us of what you get again?

PPPS: Get your own radio station, you’ve been clogging up Radio Solent for years now and it’s getting as tiresome as your stalker-like advances towards us.

PPPPS: If I ever come into to any money I'm going to partner up with Marc Jackson, buy AFBC, demolish Dean Court and put a monkey chicken petting zoo there. At least it'll guarantee more than 5,000 visitors every Saturday.

Last edited by Crab Lungs; Today at 07:22 PM.

 

 

That is undoubtedly brilliant, now from another saints fan that used to look out for bournemouth's scores on a saturday, GO **** YOURSELVES !!

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Crab Lungs - Thanks so much for not being tarred with that brush - but christ that must have taken some time to write.

 

And thanks Sir Woody - just a shame that you think ALL cherries fans are obsessed with hating 'Scummers'. I'm a bit of a stuck record when it comes to generalisations I know. So i'll get in the bunker until tomorrow.

 

I'll be back, win lose or draw - have fun. Soccer saturday for me - Need to save my pennies for Notts, Yeovil and Pools away..

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Crab Lungs - Thanks so much for not being tarred with that brush - but christ that must have taken some time to write.

 

And thanks Sir Woody - just a shame that you think ALL cherries fans are obsessed with hating 'Scummers'. I'm a bit of a stuck record when it comes to generalisations I know. So i'll get in the bunker until tomorrow.

 

I'll be back, win lose or draw - have fun. Soccer saturday for me - Need to save my pennies for Notts, Yeovil and Pools away..

 

Damn it. Your dignified reply makes me feel guilty! :-o

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