Gemmel Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/8903213.Cherries_comment__Few_tiers_shed_for_Saints/ I think Cortese, might have got under his skin. And as for the imminent take over.....oh
Liquidshokk Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 I thought some of the comments from idiotic Bornmuff fans were OTT and unnecesary but from a saints fan!. The undercover secret agent Cortese will sort him out don't worry.... Didn't Nick get banned for less?
scott_saints Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 Oh dear, how bitter. Bompey fans love it aswell. "He's a Southampton fan you know, he's one of you!".......... Yes. A southampton fan. Not trying to sell papers to Southampton fans though, is he?
doddisalegend Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 LOL it's quite funny and I don't disagree with all of it by any means, maybe a little strong on the hate though.
Turkish Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 It's not inaccurate though is it. In top flight we were a small club at the Dell expectations of just surival and most clubs had a soft spot for. Since relegation, particularly to this league we have become arrogant, expecting to walk this league and being able to sign who we want. The only thing that annoys me is that we have this perception of being perennial strugglers when we weren't but for about 5 or 6 seasons out of 27. Most of the time we finished lower mid table, i am sure Fulham, Bolton and Sunderland aren't considered perennial strugglers.
Liquidshokk Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 What is it with the Daily echo... They make me hate football sometimes..... The bournemouth fans really do sound jealous and scared. All these comments of "we are going to beat them well and show them how small their club really is and if we don't then it doesnt matter because we're not expected to win anyway" Does that not contradict itself somewhat???
Liquidshokk Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 (edited) It's not inaccurate though is it. In top flight we were a small club at the Dell expectations of just surival and most clubs had a soft spot for. Since relegation, particularly to this league we have become arrogant, expecting to walk this league and being able to sign who we want. The only thing that annoys me is that we have this perception of being perennial strugglers when we weren't but for about 5 or 6 seasons out of 27. Most of the time we finished lower mid table, i am sure Fulham, Bolton and Sunderland aren't considered perennial strugglers. Who are these "we" though Turkish? I'm not arrogant about it, I presume you wouldnt say your arrogant about it as you can do no wrong, and noone I speak to on a daily basis expects us to walk this league or buy our way out of this league. The club haven't been arrogant in my eyes either and always said they will respect the league despite being able to buy their way out of it if they wanted to (apparently). The majority are intelligent enough to work out where we are these days and why and have realistic expectations. Edited 11 March, 2011 by Liquidshokk
NickG Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 Markus is just like Mitchell Lallana is like Pugh Think all these comments of saints being arrogant is their insecurity - just remember their promotion winning celebration and first thought on their minds!
Turkish Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 Who are these "we" though Turkish? I'm not arrogant about it, I presume you wouldnt say your arrogant about it as you can do no wrong, and noone I speak to on a daily basis expects us to walk this league or buy our way out of this league. The club haven't been arrogant in my eyes either and always said they will respect the league despite being able to buy their way out of it if they wanted to (apparently). The majority are intelligent enough to work out where we are these days and why and have realistic expectations. Really?! Why the dispear then everytime we fail to win? Who at the start of the season exepected automatic promotion? In fact many people on here said only the top 2 was acceptable, is that not arrogant? There is nothing wrong with being arrogant when you are good and when you deliver, but when you dont you end up looking like a c*nt.
up and away Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 This is just a continuation of the Dean Richards tribute as he already went off on that one. I really do not understand the language being aimed at Saints, especially by Solent in midweek. Maybe the club should have done more, but there was no lack of respect or acknowledgement of his sad passing. When you get these thwats like Merrington calling it atrocious. underlining that by making £8.5M from his transfer, quickly forgetting it was a transfer saints never wanted. I love this bit "For if Southampton Football Club does fail, for a second season, to get back to ‘its level’, the St Mary’s powers that be might need a few of those friends from years gone by. If they can fight their way through the enemies made during this campaign first. " Does this thwat really believe things will be any better either way? Our recent experiences have shown those friends being of no practical use what soever, we would have been better off without their help. Meldrum you are a thwat and need resetting with a good kick in the ******. Something you have a very good chance of collecting on Saturday.
Liquidshokk Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 (edited) Really?! Why the dispear then everytime we fail to win? Who at the start of the season exepected automatic promotion? In fact many people on here said only the top 2 was acceptable, is that not arrogant? There is nothing wrong with being arrogant when you are good and when you deliver, but when you dont you end up looking like a c*nt. I think there would just as much dispear whoever we are or what the expectation is. Losing sucks. I've never got the impression that people have thought only top two is acceptable simply because we are Southampton FC (that would be arrogant as that doesnt mean much anymore). Surely thats more about the fact that we now have billionaire owners so you would predict it would happen. Is that arrogant? Edited 11 March, 2011 by Liquidshokk
Turkish Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 I dont understand why everyone is getting worked up. All he has done is write a not inaccurate article, attempting to stoking up the "rivalry". All you lot getting angry about it are just doing excatly what was intended. If their cute little club and town want to put down the beach mats and zimmer frames and stand in the street calling us "scummers" let them. Bournemouth are on our radar for one season and one season only. Just remember, it's them doing all the talking, them claiming they dont fear us, them being spiteful. Let them get on with it.
LGTL Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 True Turkish, but still, this guy is meant to be a Saints fan and you don't expect it from your own. Who needs enemies eh!
Turkish Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 I think there would just as much dispear whoever we are or what the expectation is. Losing sucks. I've never got the impression that people have thought only top two is acceptable simply because we are Southampton FC. Surely thats more about the fact that we now have billionaire owners so you would predict it would happen. Is that arrogant? Not at all, would their be dispear if we were in the top flight and lost at Man United or Chelsea? Of course not because we expect to win all the time in this league and dont in the Premier league. If you've never got that impression then you obviously weren't on here pre season, this is apparantly the season with no excuses, the season where failiure to achieve promotion is faliure and where some even said the play offs weren't acceptable. Some claimed we can sign anyone we want, just throw enough money at them, others said we are the most attractive club for any side not playing the champions league, still more people said that a player would rather join us than Champions league Rangers. Lambert is better than Torres, Saints would beat England, i could go on. Actually some of those comments are arrogant, they are just idiotic.
Miltonaggro Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 This tick turd of a provincial journalist is an agitator, pure and simple. Football history is rather more sophisticated than making rash assumptions and unsubstantiated comments, every statistic of the past 50 years shows Southampton as a mid sized top flight club, whether it's tenure, attendance, or international players. As far as I am aware mis-management, administration and the Taylor report were not Saints choice - have a look at Birmingham, Sunderland and Middlesborough for comparison - are they small arrogant clubs too? There seems to be a collective mental illness effecting our seaside friends...
Liquidshokk Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 Not at all, would their be dispear if we were in the top flight and lost at Man United or Chelsea? Of course not because we expect to win all the time in this league and dont in the Premier league. If you've never got that impression then you obviously weren't on here pre season, this is apparantly the season with no excuses, the season where failiure to achieve promotion is faliure and where some even said the play offs weren't acceptable. Some claimed we can sign anyone we want, just throw enough money at them, others said we are the most attractive club for any side not playing the champions league, still more people said that a player would rather join us than Champions league Rangers. Lambert is better than Torres, Saints would beat England, i could go on. Actually some of those comments are arrogant, they are just idiotic. But on what scale is this arrogance?? A few people speaking this way on here pre-season doesnt represent what the majority of saints fans think. I think bournemouth fans truly believe we all think like that when its probably just a few immature, idotic fans, which exist at all clubs. I'm sure arrogance among a few fans exists in the lowest leagues too where they have unrealistic views/expectations. Maybe I'm just naive. Wouldnt be the first time..
Turkish Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 This tick turd of a provincial journalist is an agitator, pure and simple. Football history is rather more sophisticated than making rash assumptions and unsubstantiated comments, every statistic of the past 50 years shows Southampton as a mid sized top flight club, whether it's tenure, attendance, or international players. As far as I am aware mis-management, administration and the Taylor report were not Saints choice - have a look at Birmingham, Sunderland and Middlesborough for comparison - are they small arrogant clubs too? There seems to be a collective mental illness effecting our seaside friends... it's called an inferiority complex, funnily enough it effects a lot of people 20 miles east of here as well.
SuperMikey Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 I think it's quite funny that Bournemouth are trying to establish us as rivals - Saints only have one true rival, and we all know which team that is. And Turkish, while the article is not inaccurate, it's hardly accurate either. Talking about the Pardew sacking; "Clearly a 4-0 away win was simply unacceptable for such a giant of the third tier" when we all know that there were things going on off the pitch which contributed to his dismissal, plus a poor start to the season before that game. " “When you speak to all the opposition managers or you read their reports after the game, you will find that it is the best their team has played all season when they play Southampton,” rambled Adkins ahead of Saints’ 1-0 defeat to Walsall on March 1" ", which is true, almost every post-match interview I hear when a team beats Saints mentions being pleased at beating on of the best in the division and how well the players played. The whole thing reeks of bitterness.
Super_Uwe Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 It just goes to show that the "dark forces" NC was on about are alive and kicking. That's not to say the overall message here is completely wrong; I do think we as a club in general have struggled to come to terms with our fall from grace. But to be fair to us, we sank like a stone in no more than about four years (2004-2008) and we had to put up with all sorts of comings and goings. Who wouldn't feel aggrieved at falling so far in so little time? The thing I am finding hard to get my head round is this - we seem to be in a really stable position and have ambitious managers both on and off the pitch, but the way we have gone about it seems to have riled so many people that are or were connected to the club, and I mean REALLY riled.
Super_Uwe Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 Not sure why the 8 is a smiley face but hey ho!
Turkish Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 I think it's quite funny that Bournemouth are trying to establish us as rivals - Saints only have one true rival, and we all know which team that is. And Turkish, while the article is not inaccurate, it's hardly accurate either. Talking about the Pardew sacking; "Clearly a 4-0 away win was simply unacceptable for such a giant of the third tier" when we all know that there were things going on off the pitch which contributed to his dismissal, plus a poor start to the season before that game. " “When you speak to all the opposition managers or you read their reports after the game, you will find that it is the best their team has played all season when they play Southampton,” rambled Adkins ahead of Saints’ 1-0 defeat to Walsall on March 1" ", which is true, almost every post-match interview I hear when a team beats Saints mentions being pleased at beating on of the best in the division and how well the players played. The whole thing reeks of bitterness. No, it reaks of someone trying to stir up Bournemouth fans ahead of their biggest home game for decades. dont forget not only is this a "derby" but lose and 2nd place is as good as gone for them. We will be level on points with two games in hand. Its not just a local derby, its a promotion 6 pointer. The bloke is only doing his job as a local journalist FFS.
Turkish Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 But on what scale is this arrogance?? A few people speaking this way on here pre-season doesnt represent what the majority of saints fans think. I think bournemouth fans truly believe we all think like that when its probably just a few immature, idotic fans, which exist at all clubs. I'm sure arrogance among a few fans exists in the lowest leagues too where they have unrealistic views/expectations. Maybe I'm just naive. Wouldnt be the first time.. But where do oppositon fans form their views these days? Its on other teams forums, you know like we do, posts on here from Bournemouth, Sheff Wednesday, brighton forums etc in the past and everyone on here slagging them off. If i went onto a league one clubs forum and saw them saying that a current premier league player would join them ahead of the Scottish champions and play champions league football, or that they are the most attractive side to join outside of the premier league i'd think they were arrogant c*nts, wouldn't you? BTW where is Tartan Owl? He's gone a bit quiet lately!
trousers Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 As I posted on the build up thread, I think all this 'war of words' will work in our favour. The more pumped up the players are )on both sides) the more open the game will be, which suits our style of play... Good tactics Mr Adkins....your provocative seed sowing is having the desired effect..... IMHO of course
doddisalegend Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 I'm arrogant having spent years being the plucky underdogs, I rather enjoy being the billy big ******** club now. We are the biggest club in this league and I'm going to enjoy it. We should be bending teams over and ramming a large one up them in this league and when we don't I get upset by it. My thinking is sooner or later we will be back in the prem and I can go back to being the meek,mild mannered underdog thankful that we got a point of a visiting Stoke or kept the Man U score down to only 3-0. Till then I'm going to be an arrogant c unt and expect saints to actually beat teams and beat them well. 6-0 againt little old Bournemouth it is then.
Daren W Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 I dont understand why everyone is getting worked up. All he has done is write a not inaccurate article, attempting to stoking up the "rivalry". All you lot getting angry about it are just doing excatly what was intended. If their cute little club and town want to put down the beach mats and zimmer frames and stand in the street calling us "scummers" let them. Bournemouth are on our radar for one season and one season only. Just remember, it's them doing all the talking, them claiming they dont fear us, them being spiteful. Let them get on with it. ^This...
trousers Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 Mr Sibley stirring things up nicely I see.... :-) jordansibley Jordan Sibley A cup final press box special #ff @ohecmelly @ohecperrett @gordonsimpson @kristemple #saintsfc #afcb 31 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
SuperMikey Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 Sent Neil Meldrum (the journo) an email, interesting point made in his reply: The Southern Daily Echo, I'm sure, would like to get behind Saints but they aren't able to because Mr Cortese finds it in his wisdom to ban them from press conferences. I didn't know the the Echo were banned from press conferences. Did that one just pass me by or is this news?
sfc1976 Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 Dear oh dear, is this really happening??! I've never given Bournemouth a second thought in my life. This is getting ridiculous.
doddisalegend Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 Dear oh dear, is this really happening??! I've never given Bournemouth a second thought in my life. This is getting ridiculous. I doubt anyone thought back in august that this fixture would amount to much. However the way the season has shaped up this match could be a season defining one and we all have to think about bompey whether we like it or not.
trousers Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 I doubt anyone thought back in august that this fixture would amount to much. However the way the season has shaped up this match could be a season defining one and we all have to think about bompey whether we like it or not. Indeed. And it would have been as "big" a game regardless of the opposition - playing the team in 2nd place who are 3 points above us with a dozen games to go would always be a "big game". Ergo, it's not a big game because it's Bournemouth; it's a big game because of the two teams' respective positions.
voteforpedro Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 Hahahaha... surely even Bournemouth fans can't take that article seriously.
Saints foreva Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 This whole AFCB thing is getting so boring now, but it isn't a surprise that they think about us in that way when we have so many supporters who are signing up to their forums and acting like ****ing retards.
derry Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 Is it that they still don't believe that they can be promoted, and that we will see them off on the way to promotion. This is shows a real inferiority complex in Bournemouth. Who the hell cares what Bournemouth do or think. We haven't thought much about them in the past and only have a passing interest tomorrow. After last Tuesday's result they have to win if they are to have any chance of automatic promotion but I get the feeling from their hyping that they are worried that their season might blow up tomorrow. We still have 12 matches after tomorrow and two home games in hand which I think we can win and overtake Bournemouth. After tomorrow their results will have no more significance than any other team we are competing with for second place.
dronskisaint Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 LOL at a Bompey rag's description of The Dell as a tinpot ground!! Still held 50% more than theirs even after standing was banished. I hope Adkins pins this on the dressing room wall!
Sour Mash Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 There is no-way that bloke is a Saints fan. What the f**k has become of journalism in this country when sh**e like that gets published, bizarre!
Mustapha Fag Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 Sent Neil Meldrum (the journo) an email, interesting point made in his reply: I didn't know the the Echo were banned from press conferences. Did that one just pass me by or is this news? All stemmed from leaking training ground plans i think. Also confirms what i thought, its the Daily Echos sister paper so NC is not on the xmas card list
Pedro Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 Didn't we send groundstaff down 2 or 3 days a week when they were struggling. Mitchell also happy sharing the gate receipts with our 3 games this season, with all this hype maybe they can get more than 7k to go to every home match. Thats what really riles Mitchell, the lack of people going through the turnstile, so we may be fairly equal on the pitch at the moment and fair play to them, but we're a far bigger club so they should accept that.
simo Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 Never liked Meldrum at school I like him even less now !
thesaint sfc Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 I can't think of what we have done, but I'm sure we've helped them out before when they've been struggling. We've certainly favoured them when loaning out players in the past. WTF is their problem?
scotty Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 Dear oh dear, is this really happening??! I've never given Bournemouth a second thought in my life. This is getting ridiculous. this.
rallyboy Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 Cortese will take that attack by the newspaper group as a fresh declaration of war, imo the Bournemouth Echo has damaged the Southampton one and set media relations back, it's more insulting than what the Sun did! I thought the intitial ban was a mistake - this makes it look justified. I wouldn't have that reporter in my ground - he insults the club, the manager, the chairman, the history, even Le Tissier - and it is clearly angled to create trouble between two sets of fans who historically have been far enough apart to have a healthy relationship. Was it the final fling in the transparent PR campaign to try and sell out their fine stadium? If so it was ill-judged and poorly delivered. That aside, 5pm Saturday....as Mick McCarthy would say.
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 I think the best thing would be to win the game and then make no big deal out if it in the press, on their forums etc. Would show them it's just another game won and that it was no special than beating Yeovil, Swindon et al.
Liquidshokk Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 I think the best thing would be to win the game and then make no big deal out if it in the press' date=' on their forums etc. Would show them it's just another game won and that it was no special than beating Yeovil, Swindon et al.[/quote'] Good luck with that one....
Wes Tender Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 Sent Neil Meldrum (the journo) an email, interesting point made in his reply: The Southern Daily Echo, I'm sure, would like to get behind Saints but they aren't able to because Mr Cortese finds it in his wisdom to ban them from press conferences. I didn't know the the Echo were banned from press conferences. Did that one just pass me by or is this news? So Meldrew (sic) realises obviously the background between Cortese and Murray, the editor at their sister publication here at Southampton and regardless of his alleged support of Saints, is willing to place his tongue on the posterior orifice of his employers and slag off the Saints. It's sad to see that a so-called supporter of ours is willing to place his career advancement ahead of his allegiance to us in a pathetic effort to sell more copies of that rag. Perhaps he ought to support Bournemouth instead, as I'm sure that Mitchell will grant him a place in the Directors' box for his Quisling rhetoric on their behalf.
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 Methinks Meldrum will no longer be welcome at St Marys, his loss.. Also worth noting Southern Daily/Bournemouth Echo are sister papers... oh dear oh dear Murray
Chez Posted 11 March, 2011 Posted 11 March, 2011 nicely written article for the audience it was aimed at. Now when does the expiry date run out on that yogurt?
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