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Goths and Emu's/Emo's or whatever they are called all want to be different.

 

Fine I can accept it that they have a personality which leads them to crave attention and they think the way to get that is to shock people into giving it to them by looking different. Yet, they hang around with others similar looking to them and go to places which cater for only that kind of person.

 

Surely this makes them the same?!

 

I bet they all sit around in their dungeon-esk clubs moaning about following rules and criteria, yet they all look the frickin same!

 

You never see a goth in full blacked up dress wear in the middle of a nightclub do you? Now that would be different.

 

Bunch of 'Oh look at me, im different' freaks

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They'll grow out of it :)

 

You say that but I have seen a fair few late twenties - mid thirties goths. You have to ask how they get on in life. I know prejedism (sp?) isnt allowed in todays soceity, however, you cant imagine many employers seeing past the makeup and dark clothes!

 

I certainly wouldnt employ a goth who dressed that way for work, would scare the clients off!

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You say that but I have seen a fair few late twenties - mid thirties goths. You have to ask how they get on in life. I know prejedism (sp?) isnt allowed in todays soceity, however, you cant imagine many employers seeing past the makeup and dark clothes!

 

I certainly wouldnt employ a goth who dressed that way for work, would scare the clients off!

 

I don't think there's any difference between them and their 'uniforms' and us grown ups wearing our 'uniforms', be it suits for work or jeans and Tshirts / football tops for leisure.

 

Don't judge a book by a cover is my maxim.

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Goths and Emu's/Emo's or whatever they are called all want to be different.

 

Fine I can accept it that they have a personality which leads them to crave attention and they think the way to get that is to shock people into giving it to them by looking different. Yet, they hang around with others similar looking to them and go to places which cater for only that kind of person.

 

Surely this makes them the same?!

 

I bet they all sit around in their dungeon-esk clubs moaning about following rules and criteria, yet they all look the frickin same!

 

You never see a goth in full blacked up dress wear in the middle of a nightclub do you? Now that would be different.

 

Bunch of 'Oh look at me, im different' freaks

 

What harm are they doing though? Would you prefer they dressed as chavs and beat you up?

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No harm. It doesnt say they are causing me harm, just an observation.

 

FWIW, Chavs also do my nut in. Why would anyone want to be branded a Chav, knowing full well they are the butt of most peoples jokes?!

 

Maybe because they get a sense of belonging - something they haven't experienced when growing up? Or maybe because they'd rather have attention, even if they're being derided, than no attention at all :smt102

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No harm. It doesnt say they are causing me harm, just an observation.

 

FWIW, Chavs also do my nut in. Why would anyone want to be branded a Chav, knowing full well they are the butt of most peoples jokes?!

 

Well it would be a bit boring if everyone dressed the same. They might think you look a bit square etc but i'm sure you don't care. This comes from an old punk btw :-)

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Bunch of 'Oh look at me, im different' freaks
If I had a pound for every time I heard a goth say that I would have no pounds.

You seem to be making up both sides of the argument here, you have put across the case for goths and emos and then taken it apart. It makes no sense.

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Aren't we all tribal in one sense or another and the clothes/music etc show which tribe we are in?

 

Isn't that why people wear replica kits for example?

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Aren't we all tribal in one sense or another and the clothes/music etc show which tribe we are in?

 

Isn't that why people wear replica kits for example?

 

Which is why it's fun being different / enigmatic. Get people guessing and annoyed because you can't be pigeonholed.

 

Which brings me back to the other thread on this forearm:

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=3301

 

and why the short-haired girl gets noticed.

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Which is why it's fun being different / enigmatic. Get people guessing and annoyed because you can't be pigeonholed.

 

Which brings me back to the other thread on this forearm:

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=3301

 

and why the short-haired girl gets noticed.

 

Is it because she drinks from the furry cup?

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Which is why it's fun being different / enigmatic. Get people guessing and annoyed because you can't be pigeonholed.

 

But Emos, Goths etc aren't being different, which is the whole point.

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They're being different to the mainstream and that is the whole point.

 

Tripe. They've created a new tribe and therefore conformed to the rules of that tribe and ipso facto adopted mainstream rules of acceptance by doing so.

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But Emos, Goths etc aren't being different, which is the whole point.

 

No that's not the point I was trying to make! I was trying to say that any 'young person' who doesn't dress like a chav, goth, emo IS different.

 

To me, this indicates they're capable of independent thought and confident of their own identity so that they don't feel they need to conform to a stereotype.

 

In the same way - I'm a grandmother but I certainly don't fit the stereotype and that really annoys some people of my age group because I don't neatly fit their perceptions of what a grandmother should look like ;)

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No that's not the point I was trying to make! I was trying to say that any 'young person' who doesn't dress like a chav, goth, emo IS different.

 

That I agree with.

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No that's not the point I was trying to make! I was trying to say that any 'young person' who doesn't dress like a chav, goth, emo IS different.

 

To me, this indicates they're capable of independent thought and confident of their own identity so that they don't feel they need to conform to a stereotype.

 

In the same way - I'm a grandmother but I certainly don't fit the stereotype and that really annoys some people of my age group because I don't neatly fit their perceptions of what a grandmother should look like ;)

 

Rule 1!!

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