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]We are not going to get promoted playing champagne football for 90 minutes and thrashing everybody[/color]. if we go up, it will be by keeping solid at the back, having enough firepower to win whether we score early or late, and by everybody, players and fans, sticking together through a really tough 13 games.

Most teams we play will also have something to play for...we will scratch some wins, have the odd break, have a down when we lose or draw a game we "should" win.

 

lets hope that the team have plenty of bottle, and are keeping their best form for the last 10 games when its all decided.

 

There are one or two high profile people on this forum who seem to have an agenda.....

 

Errmmmm yes we would......... in fact any team who played amazing football and thrashed every team they played would have a hard time not being promoted........

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Heard worse comments behind me. To list a couple;

 

Man 1: Cant believe Adkins isnt playing schneiderlin, very poor decision

Man 2: He's injured isnt he?

Man 1: No, he was playing the last time I came here and he was very good.

 

Man 1: Ooh we're bring on N'Geessan

Man 2: Who??

Man 1: N'Geessan

Announcer: Substitution for the saints, Jonathan Forte........

 

:facepalm:

 

Almost as good as behind us.

 

 

Imbecile 1: Fooks sake Hammond, you're crap

Imbecile 2: I think that's Seabourne

Imbecile 1: Where's Martin?

Imbecile 2: Dunno.

Imbecile 1: He should be playing.

 

D'oh.

 

Also, the other week it was:

 

Imbecile 1: Who's the right back?

Imbecile 2: Butterfield.

Imbecile 3: Oh yeah, Danny Butterfield, he's only a young nipper, 19/20, he's doing well.

 

Quality fans.

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A win's a win so we'll take it.

 

Other than that this was the biggest load of crap you could ever imagine, how on earth did we win and score three goals - Chuck only knows!

 

What happened to winning with a smile on our faces, Nige? I didn't see many fans smiling when they left they all looked effing relieved it was all over. Adkins is no longer in charge that's obvious, the players are just ignoring the idiot and his useless sidekick - it was only rare moments of genius from one or two of our lads that got us the points. What's happened to Chaplow???????????????????

 

If we play like that against a better team we'll be shafted so pull your socks up Saints before Saturday.

 

Still, a win's a win for all that.

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A loss is a loss

This was the biggest load of crap you could ever imagine, how on earth did we win score a goal - Chuck only knows!

 

What happened to losing with a smile on our faces, Arsene? I didn't see many fans smiling when they left they all looked effing relieved it was all over. Arsene is no longer in charge that's obvious, the players are just ignoring the idiot and his useless sidekick - it was only rare moments of genius from one or two of our lads that got us anywhere near them. What's happened to Fabregas???????????????????

 

If we play like that against a better team we'll be shafted so pull your socks up Gunners before Saturday.

 

Still, a loss is a loss for all that.

 

I've edited it for you personally.

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Errmmmm yes we would......... in fact any team who played amazing football and thrashed every team they played would have a hard time not being promoted........

 

i may have expressed that badly.

 

We are not going to play champagne football for 90 mins every game and thrash everybody.

 

To get promoted will require doing a bit of that, but in the main by grinding out results in some tough matches..keeping clean sheets, and nicking the odd game at the end. look how many games manure win late on. Thats football. Its going to be a bumpy ride, but we might just get there.

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I'm not bothered about us playing "good" football, but we do struggle at times and in my eyes we don't look like a league winning or promotion team. Games like this coming Saturday will tell us where we really are .

 

Games like the one at Bournemouth won't tell us much beyond whether we can beat them away or not. We already know that we can beat them at home. We learned from playing Man Ure and Blackpool that we are capable of beating at least one Premiership side and giving the Premiership leaders a nasty fright for two-thirds of the match. So following that, we lose against one of the teams in the third division basement. There are too many twists and turns to predict whether we are a league winning or promotion team at this stage, especially as some of the top 6 are playing each other and not beyond stumbling against those lower placed teams themselves

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We are on the run in now. Every win is vital. Agreed that we weren't very fluent last night but we are finding a way to grind out a good result. Better to win than play well. Having said that Lambert is a peripheral figure floating around in front of the midfield. Except for getting into the box at set pieces he isn't trying to get on the end of moves any more. He is an excellent passer but he is playing more like a playmaker than our main striker, we need him making more effort to get in on goal.

 

I noticed that several times myself. Is it something planned because of his ability to pick out a good pass, or is it just down to him? Whichever, I would have thought that he would be utilised more effectively in the box alongside Barnard.

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We are on the run in now. Every win is vital. Agreed that we weren't very fluent last night but we are finding a way to grind out a good result. Better to win than play well. Having said that Lambert is a peripheral figure floating around in front of the midfield. Except for getting into the box at set pieces he isn't trying to get on the end of moves any more. He is an excellent passer but he is playing more like a playmaker than our main striker, we need him making more effort to get in on goal.

 

he did nothing last night, he didn't win any headers, didn't get in box and didn't threaten at all. Virgo (was it?) had the easiest night of his life and unlike the last few games Lambert was climbed all over either. A lot of poor service but both strikers offered minimal threat IMO if that is possible with one of them scoring twice.

I must point out though that for a brief period near the end Lambert was actually moved into the hole with Forte and Barnard playing up top.

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Hit and miss performance, at times we were unplayable but for a large (and frustrating) period of the game we couldn't get the ball out of our own half. Good evidence of lots of work on the training ground for set-pieces though, Barney's first was perfectly executed, which is something that we've lacked in our game before. Chaplow's booking was disgraceful, it was a great challenge but the Yeovil player made a real meal of it and ended up getting Chappers booked. Still, 3 very useful points and we're definitely picking up momentum. Bournemouth hit a stumbling block last night, so if we can take advantage of their slip-up and beat them on Saturday, we'll be well on our way to sealing automatic!

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I noticed that several times myself. Is it something planned because of his ability to pick out a good pass, or is it just down to him? Whichever, I would have thought that he would be utilised more effectively in the box alongside Barnard.

 

Exactly....I wish we had a 20yard chain and tied one end to the goal post and the other to Lamberts ankle - we don't need him wide....he was cramping Lallana last night so when the cross came in we only had the excellent Barnard in the middle.

Stay in the danger zone Ricky thats where we need you leave the rest to the other 4 midfielders.

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Don't know what people are moaning about, we did exactly what we had to last night. Win comfortably. Yeovil came here with a simple plan. Stick 5 in midfield, stiffle all creativity and hope for a scrappy draw, or at best a Walsall style fluke goal. We managed to break them down and took our chances when they came. You can't really ask for much more that that.

 

Having said that, there were a few sloppy performances. My thought's on the players:

 

Davis - 5 Never really troubled, but feck me he made a meal of trying to put a cross over the bar. Dodgy kicking at times too. A throw in in your own half isn't good.

 

Butters - 6 Never got too adventurous down the right and was barely troubled defensively. Great awareness for the first goal

 

Fonte - 7 By far our best CB. We'd be terrible without him. A couple of panicked clearances.

 

Martin - 7 Did alright considering his chances have been limited. Looked better on the deck than in the air, which was unfortunate as he had a lot of long balls to deal with.

 

Harding - 7 Nothing wrong here, supported Lallana well.

 

AOC - 7 Was a bit quite, but some decent skill in the lead up to his goal and a couple of decent runs.

 

Hammond - 4 Looked like he was running in marmalade most of the time. Didn't really put a shift in.

 

Chaplow - 6 Not his best performance. How the ref booked him for that challenge I'll never know.

 

Lallana - 8 A touch of class

 

Lambert - 5 still looks overweight and a bit lethargic at times.

 

Barnard - 8 Looked switched on and took his chances. A worker and would be my first choice striker.

 

Subs:

 

Gobern - 6 Had a couple of good moments

Forte - 6 Didn't think he was that bad, apart from his tribute to BWP with the 1-on-1.

Richardson - Wasn't on all that long, but I'd probably start him at RB. He hasn't really had a decent run since his injury and Butters isn't all that.

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There were times in the first half that this game looked more like a relegation struggle than a promotion side against a team just above the relegation places. So we won; but if we hadn't won at home against YEOVIL! could anyone have taken promotion as a serious prospect. My confidence in Adkins went weeks ago but I'm not that confident in NC either since he must have set the policy for the January transfers - which was hold what we have but don't improve. What depresses me is that there is nothing that can be done. Its not possible to contemplate another change of manager so we are stuck with what we've got. Second place looks very difficult as our current form is not as good as the teams around us. The play-offs do look assured, but that is no guarantee of promotion and neither is it meeting the target of a team that would hit the NpC running. With the strength of others in the top 6, missing out in the play-offs has to be more likely than not.

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There were times in the first half that this game looked more like a relegation struggle than a promotion side against a team just above the relegation places. So we won; but if we hadn't won at home against YEOVIL! could anyone have taken promotion as a serious prospect. My confidence in Adkins went weeks ago but I'm not that confident in NC either since he must have set the policy for the January transfers - which was hold what we have but don't improve. What depresses me is that there is nothing that can be done. Its not possible to contemplate another change of manager so we are stuck with what we've got. Second place looks very difficult as our current form is not as good as the teams around us. The play-offs do look assured, but that is no guarantee of promotion and neither is it meeting the target of a team that would hit the NpC running. With the strength of others in the top 6, missing out in the play-offs has to be more likely than not.

 

What league table are you looking at

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There were times in the first half that this game looked more like a relegation struggle than a promotion side against a team just above the relegation places. So we won; but if we hadn't won at home against YEOVIL! could anyone have taken promotion as a serious prospect. My confidence in Adkins went weeks ago but I'm not that confident in NC either since he must have set the policy for the January transfers - which was hold what we have but don't improve. What depresses me is that there is nothing that can be done. Its not possible to contemplate another change of manager so we are stuck with what we've got. Second place looks very difficult as our current form is not as good as the teams around us. The play-offs do look assured, but that is no guarantee of promotion and neither is it meeting the target of a team that would hit the NpC running. With the strength of others in the top 6, missing out in the play-offs has to be more likely than not.

 

You talk rubbish about NC and the transfer window policy. He (or Adkins) said that clubs we were talking to pushed their asking prices up to unrealistic levels because they thought we were about to get £10M for Chamberlain. We wouldn't meet their inflated asking prices - but don't let facts get in the way of things eh??

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He has got a point though. No-one is expecting or asking us to play anything like Barcelona. I'm not bothered about us playing "good" football, but we do struggle at times and in my eyes we don't look like a league winning or promotion team. Games like this coming Saturday will tell us where we really are and I hope I am proved wrong For the resources we have had available, we should have been doing what Brighton are doing and running away with the league, not thrashing it out with Huddersfield, Bournemouth, Peterborough etc, while crossing our fingers and hoping we'll come good for the end of the season.

 

But what does a promotion winning team look like?

 

Leeds certainly didn't look promotion-winning when we dominated them at St Mary's last season. Neither did Millwall. You can't "look" like a promotion winning team unless you're playing "good" football and convincingly dispatching teams like Yeovil.

 

It's all about results.

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But what does a promotion winning team look like?

 

Leeds certainly didn't look promotion-winning when we dominated them at St Mary's last season. Neither did Millwall. You can't "look" like a promotion winning team unless you're playing "good" football and convincingly dispatching teams like Yeovil.

 

It's all about results.

 

Exactly it is about points not performances

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I'd forgotten about that. :lol: Priceless.

 

I listened to the game on BBC Somerset and the commentators (one sounded like Dickie Davies from Sky Sports News and the other was the Chris Sweet from the Western Gazette) said it was the worst free kick they've ever seen from Yeovil. It must have been pretty terrible!

 

The commentators were really complimentary of Saints in the second half, saying we'd quite easily beat most teams in this league and will go up automatically.

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Been a bit busy, so here's my twopenneth on last night.

 

Really chuffed with 3 points, great news that Bournemouth lost, although not much else went for us with regards other results. A win Saturday would be great, but a draw not that bad a result either.

 

As for the game, although I think we were comfortable winners, once again we seem to be stuttering and misfiring. I don't mind how we win and even winning ugly at this stage of the season is OK with me, but my worry is that unless we step up from these poor performances then it could well be a really tough run in. Yeovil were absolute garbage (sorry any Glover fans out there) and for long periods we struggled to produce any decent football. Certainly need to up the performance over the coming weeks.

 

As for players:

 

As someone who was somewhat critical of Gobern recently, I have to say he looked much better last night. Harding had his boots on the wrong feet. Lallana looked as though he was the only quality player we had on the pitch. Barnard got stuck in, gave everything and was duly rewarded.

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A win's a win so we'll take it.

 

Other than that this was the biggest load of crap you could ever imagine, how on earth did we win and score three goals - Chuck only knows!

 

What happened to winning with a smile on our faces, Nige? I didn't see many fans smiling when they left they all looked effing relieved it was all over. Adkins is no longer in charge that's obvious, the players are just ignoring the idiot and his useless sidekick - it was only rare moments of genius from one or two of our lads that got us the points. What's happened to Chaplow???????????????????

 

If we play like that against a better team we'll be shafted so pull your socks up Saints before Saturday.

 

Still, a win's a win for all that.

 

Charlie

Just to warn you, some idiot has been logging on under your user name and posting crap - maybe worth changing your password?

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There were times in the first half that this game looked more like a relegation struggle than a promotion side against a team just above the relegation places. So we won; but if we hadn't won at home against YEOVIL! could anyone have taken promotion as a serious prospect. My confidence in Adkins went weeks ago but I'm not that confident in NC either since he must have set the policy for the January transfers - which was hold what we have but don't improve. What depresses me is that there is nothing that can be done. Its not possible to contemplate another change of manager so we are stuck with what we've got. Second place looks very difficult as our current form is not as good as the teams around us. The play-offs do look assured, but that is no guarantee of promotion and neither is it meeting the target of a team that would hit the NpC running. With the strength of others in the top 6, missing out in the play-offs has to be more likely than not.

 

 

 

wrong

current form we are better than cherries, Mk, Huddersfield - but behind Peterborough.

 

Adkins has better points per game return than Ferguson.

 

We are 3 points behind cherries, better goal difference - game in hand

 

We are 2 points behind Hudd, 1 behind Peterborough - games in hand - better goal diference.

 

some stated we have easirt upcoming fixtures.

 

2nd place will be differcult - always is! We are favorites for it.

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There were times in the first half that this game looked more like a relegation struggle than a promotion side against a team just above the relegation places. So we won; but if we hadn't won at home against YEOVIL! could anyone have taken promotion as a serious prospect. My confidence in Adkins went weeks ago but I'm not that confident in NC either since he must have set the policy for the January transfers - which was hold what we have but don't improve. What depresses me is that there is nothing that can be done. Its not possible to contemplate another change of manager so we are stuck with what we've got. Second place looks very difficult as our current form is not as good as the teams around us. The play-offs do look assured, but that is no guarantee of promotion and neither is it meeting the target of a team that would hit the NpC running. With the strength of others in the top 6, missing out in the play-offs has to be more likely than not.

 

 

I'm not disagreeing with your summary of the match because I wasn't there to see it myself, but I'm not quite sure how you come to that conclusion, considering we have closed the gap on 2nd place from 6 to 3 points over the last week.

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I listened to the game on BBC Somerset and the commentators (one sounded like Dickie Davies from Sky Sports News and the other was the Chris Sweet from the Western Gazette) said it was the worst free kick they've ever seen from Yeovil. It must have been pretty terrible!

 

The commentators were really complimentary of Saints in the second half, saying we'd quite easily beat most teams in this league and will go up automatically.

 

The Yeovil manager in his post match interview was equally complimentary about Saints. He acknowledged that we weren't firing on all cylinders but said that we were still in a different class.

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I am just back and I am sorry to deflate anyone who hasn’t been and thinks a 3-0 win is satisfactory but that first half we were absolutely dire – the worst I have seen for ages. We looked absolutely clueless and my confidence in Adkins is draining.

 

2nd half obviously a bit better because we put the ball in the net twice and gained an element of control but that was only because Yeovil were awful. We were far better at Walsall last week – believe me.

 

I am going to Bournemouth but we are going to perform a lot better to get anything.

 

I agree - the only thing that was convincing last night was the score. It worries me that taking Lallana out of the side would make us look very average. Any inspiration that there was was coming from him. And I am sorry Derry and co - without Schneiderlin our midfield looks a bloody shambles.

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Totally.

 

The play from Lallana to setup the 2nd goal was simply majestic.

 

The 2nd half was pretty decent from us tbh, could have got a 4th or 5th.

 

Have to agree that the second goal looked good. The header from Barnard was almost straight off the training ground. But I do have to take exception about the second half being pretty decent.

 

I'd accept it was better than the first half, but then again anything would be as our first half performance was very poor, but I would certainly not call it pretty decent!!!

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I listened to the game on BBC Somerset and the commentators (one sounded like Dickie Davies from Sky Sports News and the other was the Chris Sweet from the Western Gazette) said it was the worst free kick they've ever seen from Yeovil. It must have been pretty terrible!

 

And their snazzy short corner thingy shouldn't go without mention, straight off the training ground...fooled everyone, even the thicko ref who didn't appear to know the rules...

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And their snazzy short corner thingy shouldn't go without mention, straight off the training ground...fooled everyone, even the thicko ref who didn't appear to know the rules...

 

I'm presuming you were somewhere in the Kiingsland/Northam as the fans around there obviously knew what they were up to (along with Barnard), but the dinlo ref didn't have a clue!!!!!!

 

I've never seen parts of the Kingsland get so animated (along with a fair dash of industrial language!!!!).

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We are on the run in now. Every win is vital. Agreed that we weren't very fluent last night but we are finding a way to grind out a good result. Better to win than play well. Having said that Lambert is a peripheral figure floating around in front of the midfield. Except for getting into the box at set pieces he isn't trying to get on the end of moves any more. He is an excellent passer but he is playing more like a playmaker than our main striker, we need him making more effort to get in on goal.

 

You get to see him all the time, and me stuck in Scotland.... Do you think he has been 'really' properly ft at all this season, or if his 32 years is catching up with his legs? I still think he can do a great job, but maybe linking with a pacy younger striker that can feed off his aerial wins? And he is then obviously still a threat IF we can get the ball wide and then into the box?

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You get to see him all the time' date=' and me stuck in Scotland.... Do you think he has been 'really' properly ft at all this season, or if his 32 years is catching up with his legs? I still think he can do a great job, but maybe linking with a pacy younger striker that can feed off his aerial wins? And he is then obviously still a threat IF we can get the ball wide and then into the box?

 

Lambert is only 29 HTBH

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I'm presuming you were somewhere in the Kiingsland/Northam as the fans around there obviously knew what they were up to (along with Barnard), but the dinlo ref didn't have a clue!!!!!!

 

I've never seen parts of the Kingsland get so animated (along with a fair dash of industrial language!!!!).

 

I am indeed Um, it's fair to say most of us have never seen a team take/f*ck up a corner and then watch the ref generousy/wrongly let them retake it.

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I'm presuming you were somewhere in the Kiingsland/Northam as the fans around there obviously knew what they were up to (along with Barnard), but the dinlo ref didn't have a clue!!!!!!

 

I've never seen parts of the Kingsland get so animated (along with a fair dash of industrial language!!!!).

 

Guilty as charged. Block 34 if you meant me.

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I only have the iphone app so get 4 mins of highlights, I assume they are in the longer version. Was it just a misplaced pass or a misunderstanding? I genuinely want to understand how a professional footballer can take a free kick like that.

 

It was like playing FIFA on the PS3, when you're taking a FK and accidentally press X instead of O.

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Guilty as charged. Block 34 if you meant me.

 

In Block 34 as well. Obviously some eagle eyed supporters in that block who appreciated that Yeovil were doing that short corner routine.

 

Didn't some team score a cracker from it a couple of years back.

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