David Cameron is a total bellend.

[sunrise]

Discuss....

[Thedelldays]

I think he is alright...

damn sight better than the game show host clegg and the wallace and gromit wannabe..

and then you have the previous PM...the man was a complete loser

[bridge too far]

It's always good to know that the government is single-minded and determined to pursue what it considers to be right.

 

But I like his flexibility.

 

He bends and U turns almost on a daily basis.

[dune]

I think he's good PM and leader that makes us look good on the global stage. His predecessor (the one eyed mong) was utterly embarrassing. I also admire him for making deep cuts to the public sector to tackle the mess left by Labour.

[Gingeletiss]

I think that Sunrise, is not as nice as our PM, DC brings light into the lives of those darkened by 13 years of hard labour!

[Sheaf Saint]

Although I am not a Conservative supporter, I have to say he has impressed me so far in the way that he carries himself in public and represents Britain on the world stage. The previous incumbent was an utter clown and a national embarrassment so DC has been a breath of fresh air in that he speaks coherently and intelligently.

[Thedelldays]

to be fair..its not a hard act to follow

 

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[dune]

Although I am not a Conservative supporter, I have to say he has impressed me so far in the way that he carries himself in public and represents Britain on the world stage. The previous incumbent was an utter clown and a national embarrassment so DC has been a breath of fresh air in that he speaks coherently and intelligently.

 

I think his upper class voice is also an asset to the country and as British patriot i like our leaders to be able to deal with foreign leaders with an air of superiority.

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

I think history wil judge Brown better than we do. I think he acted comeptently when we faced global meltdown. I think he did have a moral compass but that an obsession with power got the better of him and he became something awful in his latter days.

[barney]

Thatcher wannabe with no ideas of his own.

Apart from unemployment rising at an alarming rate and everything else rising except peoples wages i think hes done an excellent job.

Sorry DUNcE i forget that was all labours fault zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Jonnyboy]

to be fair..its not a hard act to follow

 

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Big mistake trying to be something he wasnt,

 

mind you they all do fake smiles, and least he had a few human flaws

Edited 5 March, 2011 by Jonnyboy

[Gingeletiss]

Thatcher wannabe with no ideas of his own.

Apart from unemployment rising at an alarming rate and everything else rising except peoples wages i think hes done an excellent job.

Sorry DUNcE i forget that was all labours fault zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

It was, short memory have we

[Jonnyboy]

It was, short memory have we

 

i hate to start the insults early in a thread, but you = mong

[Lord Duckhunter]

"David Cameron is a total bellend. "

 

 

 

 

 

 

Political debate is alive and well, looks like we have the next Andrew Neil on our hands.

[dune]

It was, short memory have we

 

Socialists aren't very bright.

[norwaysaint]

I think he's good PM and leader that makes us look good on the global stage. His predecessor (the one eyed mong) was utterly embarrassing. I also admire him for making deep cuts to the public sector to tackle the mess left by Labour.

 

Here come the Cameron luvvies out in force again...

[dune]

And look at Labours latest leader.

 

[ecuk268]

Made a prat of himself by suggesting a no-fly zone over Libya which we couldn't do without the US and they weren't interested.

 

They said it would need at least 2 aircraft carriers (ours haven't got any aircraft as Dave scrapped the Harriers).

 

Otherwise, much too early to say.

[Lord Duckhunter]

Thatcher wannabe with no ideas of his own.

 

Rubbish, he is just the type of wet wishy washy Tory that Thatcher couldn't stand. He's a wannabe Blair, rather than Thatcher.

[Deppo]

I don't think it is fair to comment until he been in power for at least 13 years and started at least three different wars

[Saintandy666]

Gordon Brown was well respected abroad for his knowledge of economics whatever his reputation here.

 

David Cameron has been a better Prime Minister than opposition leader in terms of effectiveness even if I don't agree with him at all, Coalition politics suits him. However, he is a total mong on foreign policy and what to say and what not to say on it; though I saw that coming from before the election.

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

Insightful and constructive observations. The left always seem to start with an insult.

[norwaysaint]

Insightful and constructive observations. The left always seem to start with an insult.

 

Are you being ironic? look back through the thread at the first comment of right wing posters...

 

damn sight better than the game show host clegg and the wallace and gromit wannabe..

and then you have the previous PM...the man was a complete loser

 

plus an insulting picture labelled as Milliband.

 

I'm not saying they're wrong or that left wing posters don't lower themselves to petty insults, but it seems odd to single them out in a thread generally filled with the usual mud-slinging from both sides.

 

His predecessor (the one eyed mong) was utterly embarrassing

 

The previous incumbent was an utter clown

 

Socialists aren't very bright.

[Deppo]

Norway, you lefty-mong

 

Why do you have to be such a lefty mong?

 

I am offended by you.

[badgerx16]

I don't think it is fair to comment until he been in power for at least 13 years and started at least three different wars

Given the mess HIS spending review has left him with, ( a total lack of effective naval and air power ), he is trying his best in the middle east - he did go on tour with arms salesmen. It's the new Tory way - to save British public money, encourage the fuzzies to fight amongst themselves.

[Thedelldays]

Given the mess HIS spending review has left him with, ( a total lack of effective naval and air power ), he is trying his best in the middle east - he did go on tour with arms salesmen. It's the new Tory way - to save British public money, encourage the fuzzies to fight amongst themselves.

he went to kuwait with arms salesmen....you think kuwait are about to tear up the middle east..?

[badgerx16]

he went to kuwait with arms salesmen....you think kuwait are about to tear up the middle east..?

Not at all, but post Tunisia, at the height of the Egyptian uprising, and with the problems in Yemen and Bahrain ( pretty close to Kuwait ), what impression did the TV images and press coverage of the British PM in the immediate neighbourhood make ?

[Redbul]

I think he's good PM and leader that makes us look good on the global stage. His predecessor (the one eyed mong) was utterly embarrassing. I also admire him for making deep cuts to the public sector to tackle the mess left by Labour.

 

Nothing at all to do with a global recession and the banks greed then? And what will happen when the infrastructure starts to break down due to these cuts in the public sector? It is starting to happen already with police overtime being stopped; and libraries shutting. Oh hang on, if the masses haven't got access to literature, they can't educate themselves and they will therefore be easier to subjugate!! That coupled with increases in university fees....Genius!!!

 

Let's not forget that the rush to sort out this economic [global] crisis is political; there is absolutely no need to try and wipe the slate clean in 4 years so there is absolutely no need to dismantle the public sector or the NHS.

[dune]

Nothing at all to do with a global recession and the banks greed then? And what will happen when the infrastructure starts to break down due to these cuts in the public sector? It is starting to happen already with police overtime being stopped; and libraries shutting. Oh hang on, if the masses haven't got access to literature, they can't educate themselves and they will therefore be easier to subjugate!! That coupled with increases in university fees....Genius!!!

 

Let's not forget that the rush to sort out this economic [global] crisis is political; there is absolutely no need to try and wipe the slate clean in 4 years so there is absolutely no need to dismantle the public sector or the NHS.

 

Do you have any idea how much interest we paying to service the debt and how much more we need to borrow because of the mess labour left this country in?

 

Labour have always left this country on its knees for the conservatives to sort out.

[Jonnyboy]

he went to kuwait with arms salesmen....you think kuwait are about to tear up the middle east..?

 

Funny that country we liberated still has NO democracy, still represses women and minorities, and obviously is stocking up on batons and tear gas in case any of the working classes get any funny ideas.

[Thedelldays]

Funny that country we liberated still has NO democracy, still represses women and minorities, and obviously is stocking up on batons and tear gas in case any of the working classes get any funny ideas.

are you saying we should tell others how to run their affairs..?

[badgerx16]

are you saying we should tell others how to run their affairs..?

Should we not, therefore, stay out of the debate over Gaddafi ?

[Jonnyboy]

are you saying we should tell others how to run their affairs..?

 

lol! I imagine you were in favour of invading iraq etc etc?!!!

[Thedelldays]

lol! I imagine you were in favour of invading iraq etc etc?!!!

 

why..?

[Seaford Saint]

Do you have any idea how much interest we paying to service the debt and how much more we need to borrow because of the mess labour left this country in?

 

Labour have always left this country on its knees for the conservatives to sort out.

 

Dune, who are we paying interest to? Name them? Who owns the bank of England. Name them as well. Why are we paying interest to anyone. Why can't we the people create money in the same way the bank does but with a low (or no interest) interest

 

Who decided to bail out the banks with our money without asking us first? Something about this stinks.....you obsess with trying to say we have 2 different parties etcwhen I think they are pretty much identical and you come across as a complete *****. You redeem yourself when you talk about the 2nd war though.

 

have a lovely evening

[dune]

Dune, who are we paying interest to? Name them?

 

I'm not sure of the latest figures, but a few years ago (before Labour really went to town) the largest buyer of UK gilts was insurance companies and pension funds closely followed the overseas investors. I'm would think it's highly likely that overseas investors are now the largest owner in line with the USA who publish who these overseas investors are. If we are anything like the USA (probable) we are in the debt of Marxist China. In effect China is building an Empire and unless thick people realise that the Conservative cuts are essential we will effectively become slaves to them. It's about time people started educating Socialist types to the reality of the situation.

Edited 5 March, 2011 by dune

[CB Fry]

Dune, who are we paying interest to? Name them? Who owns the bank of England. Name them as well. Why are we paying interest to anyone. Why can't we the people create money in the same way the bank does but with a low (or no interest) interest

Who decided to bail out the banks with our money without asking us first? Something about this stinks.....you obsess with trying to say we have 2 different parties etcwhen I think they are pretty much identical and you come across as a complete *****. You redeem yourself when you talk about the 2nd war though.

 

have a lovely evening

 

 

You don't think that "we the people creating money" would make the money that is already in the economy everso slightly worthless?

 

Didn't you do GCSE history and the story of Germany between the wars.

 

"We the people" giving each other a crisp £10,000 note each isn't actually going to make anyone richer.

[dune]

You don't think that "we the people creating money" would make the money that is already in the economy everso slightly worthless?

 

Didn't you do GCSE history and the story of Germany between the wars.

 

"We the people" giving each other a crisp £10,000 note each isn't actually going to make anyone richer.

 

You only have to look to Rhodesia and it's hyper-inflation.

[Seaford Saint]

You don't think that "we the people creating money" would make the money that is already in the economy everso slightly worthless?

 

Didn't you do GCSE history and the story of Germany between the wars.

 

"We the people" giving each other a crisp £10,000 note each isn't actually going to make anyone richer.

 

How do banks create money? Let me see....take a building society that has deposits of 1 million? They can lend between 10 and twenty times that and so can banks. The money as far as I can figure out did not and does not exist as money - it exists as debt. Have I got this correct. They do not lend out money pe se.

 

So you have done your GCSE home work tell me where I am going wrong? All I am asking is this.....if banks can do it, why can't governments?

[Seaford Saint]

I'm not sure of the latest figures, but a few years ago (before Labour really went to town) the largest buyer of UK gilts was insurance companies and pension funds closely followed the overseas investors. I'm would think it's highly likely that overseas investors are now the largest owner in line with the USA who publish who these overseas investors are. If we are anything like the USA (probable) we are in the debt of Marxist China. In effect China is building an Empire and unless thick people realise that the Conservative cuts are essential we will effectively become slaves to them. It's about time people started educating Socialist types to the reality of the situation.

 

OK Dune we are getting somewhere. So the question is this...who owns the insurance companies and pension funds who buy the gilts? Are they independent....lets assume that China owns a lot our debt........ take the mortgage example that maybe only 5% or 10% of what gets loaned out is backed up by assets. Why should we be paying back debt when it was not backed up by assets in the first place. If its the banks in China who loaned the money then we should default on the loans, these are the loans that are not actually backed up by any meaningful assets....

 

I am surprised in a free country like ours you cant instantly name those to whom we are paying our £120 million a day?

[Seaford Saint]

You only have to look to Rhodesia and it's hyper-inflation.

 

I agree and I remember that the money wasn't backed up by anything.......no gold, silver or land, nothing.....

 

What's different today other than to present day where we conduct business on the basis that the loans are backed up by assets when they are not.

Edited 5 March, 2011 by Seaford Saint

[LGTL]

Everytime I find myself not liking him, I think of Osborne or Gove in charge of the country, and then realise how much worse we could have it. For a Tory he is bearable, just.

[acersaint]

You guys are having a laugh. There are such echos

Of Maggie thatcher. This guy will have us back in high unemployment begging him to let us work for less than minimum wage. They are going to undo all the good that was done previously for the working man. Believe me they only have the interest of the elite minority at heart.

[Kingsbridge Saint]

All politicians are in it for their own ends. But if you are looking for a real bellend look at Gordon Brown.

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

You guys are having a laugh. There are such echos

Of Maggie thatcher. This guy will have us back in high unemployment begging him to let us work for less than minimum wage. They are going to undo all the good that was done previously for the working man. Believe me they only have the interest of the elite minority at heart.

 

Ahh thats why manufacturing went to Asia.

[benjii]

Although I am not a Conservative supporter, I have to say he has impressed me so far in the way that he carries himself in public and represents Britain on the world stage. The previous incumbent was an utter clown and a national embarrassment so DC has been a breath of fresh air in that he speaks coherently and intelligently.

 

Exactly.

 

Regardless of what you think of his policies to describe him as a "bellend" cannot be right. He is head and shoulders, as a statesman, above any party leader or PM since Thatcher. The only exception might be Blair but there is someone who truly is an almighty bellend.

 

Cameron or Brown/Prescott/Millibean representing Britain on the world stage? There's a tough choice.

[bridge too far]

Exactly.

 

Regardless of what you think of his policies to describe him as a "bellend" cannot be right. He is head and shoulders, as a statesman, above any party leader or PM since Thatcher. The only exception might be Blair but there is someone who truly is an almighty bellend.

 

Cameron or Brown/Prescott/Millibean representing Britain on the world stage? There's a tough choice.

 

Not sure why you've got Prescott in there. He's never been PM (or didn't you know that?)

 

Both Milibands were and still are highly respected on the world stage. I'm not too sure that Cameron is (yet, or ever will be). He doesn't seem to do anything of any importance - he just poses about looking for photo opportunities IMO. Even the Americans seem to be ignoring his suggestions.

[Thorpe-le-Saint]

You only have to look to Zimbabwe and it's hyper-inflation.

 

That's better.

[dronskisaint]

Do you have any idea how much interest we paying to service the debt and how much more we need to borrow because of the mess labour left this country in?

 

Labour have always left this country on its knees for the conservatives to sort out.

 

And do you realise that deficit - caused worldwide by the Tory's most natural backers incidentally - could be wiped out at a stroke by the corporations paying tax at the prescibed rate in the country that they did their business in rather than it going to their shareholders and upper management in bonuses? Barclays would be a case in point - do the maths on the difference on the difference between 2% and 28% on their taxable profit and they are just one of tens of thousands.

 

I share the belief that Brown, for all his shortcomings, will be judged more kindly by history. At the moment Cameron has Clegg as his condom and Brown to blame but this is not going to sustain much longer - he is already starting to be judged on his own decisions and it's not pretty.

 

The comparison with Thatcher is valid despite her acolytes' protests, I believe. Cameron is hell bent on enforcing his ideology on the health service, the education system and furthering it within the armed forces. This means that private and publically quoted companies and their shareholders will benefit from providing services to the very things that most have come to expect as a right...health, education and the ability of the country to defend itself. Privatisation will not improve efficiency or lower costs - witness BT, Water Companies, Electricity, Gas etc from the Thatcher era...it will direct taxpayers money in to private pockets rather than give it back in kind as the basic right to which we all subscribe.

 

Now just who are the Tory party's prime funders? Work it out..

[View From The Top]

He's a tory and therefore a c**t by nature as every tory is.

 

However, I do think his desire to move away from the dependence on financial services to a more balanced economy is a sensible move and should be applauded.

 

If he has the capability to actually make it happen I doubt but, for once, I don't believe that they are hollow words.