sunrise Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 Discuss.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 I think he is alright... damn sight better than the game show host clegg and the wallace and gromit wannabe.. and then you have the previous PM...the man was a complete loser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 It's always good to know that the government is single-minded and determined to pursue what it considers to be right. But I like his flexibility. He bends and U turns almost on a daily basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 I think he's good PM and leader that makes us look good on the global stage. His predecessor (the one eyed mong) was utterly embarrassing. I also admire him for making deep cuts to the public sector to tackle the mess left by Labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 I think that Sunrise, is not as nice as our PM, DC brings light into the lives of those darkened by 13 years of hard labour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 Although I am not a Conservative supporter, I have to say he has impressed me so far in the way that he carries himself in public and represents Britain on the world stage. The previous incumbent was an utter clown and a national embarrassment so DC has been a breath of fresh air in that he speaks coherently and intelligently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 to be fair..its not a hard act to follow [video=youtube;vf-IatBcpqg] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 Although I am not a Conservative supporter, I have to say he has impressed me so far in the way that he carries himself in public and represents Britain on the world stage. The previous incumbent was an utter clown and a national embarrassment so DC has been a breath of fresh air in that he speaks coherently and intelligently. I think his upper class voice is also an asset to the country and as British patriot i like our leaders to be able to deal with foreign leaders with an air of superiority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 I think history wil judge Brown better than we do. I think he acted comeptently when we faced global meltdown. I think he did have a moral compass but that an obsession with power got the better of him and he became something awful in his latter days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 Thatcher wannabe with no ideas of his own. Apart from unemployment rising at an alarming rate and everything else rising except peoples wages i think hes done an excellent job. Sorry DUNcE i forget that was all labours fault zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 (edited) to be fair..its not a hard act to follow [video=youtube;vf-IatBcpqg] Big mistake trying to be something he wasnt, mind you they all do fake smiles, and least he had a few human flaws Edited 5 March, 2011 by Jonnyboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 Thatcher wannabe with no ideas of his own. Apart from unemployment rising at an alarming rate and everything else rising except peoples wages i think hes done an excellent job. Sorry DUNcE i forget that was all labours fault zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz It was, short memory have we Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 It was, short memory have we i hate to start the insults early in a thread, but you = mong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 "David Cameron is a total bellend. " Political debate is alive and well, looks like we have the next Andrew Neil on our hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 It was, short memory have we Socialists aren't very bright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 I think he's good PM and leader that makes us look good on the global stage. His predecessor (the one eyed mong) was utterly embarrassing. I also admire him for making deep cuts to the public sector to tackle the mess left by Labour. Here come the Cameron luvvies out in force again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 And look at Labours latest leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 Made a prat of himself by suggesting a no-fly zone over Libya which we couldn't do without the US and they weren't interested. They said it would need at least 2 aircraft carriers (ours haven't got any aircraft as Dave scrapped the Harriers). Otherwise, much too early to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 Thatcher wannabe with no ideas of his own. Rubbish, he is just the type of wet wishy washy Tory that Thatcher couldn't stand. He's a wannabe Blair, rather than Thatcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 I don't think it is fair to comment until he been in power for at least 13 years and started at least three different wars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 Gordon Brown was well respected abroad for his knowledge of economics whatever his reputation here. David Cameron has been a better Prime Minister than opposition leader in terms of effectiveness even if I don't agree with him at all, Coalition politics suits him. However, he is a total mong on foreign policy and what to say and what not to say on it; though I saw that coming from before the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 Insightful and constructive observations. The left always seem to start with an insult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 Insightful and constructive observations. The left always seem to start with an insult. Are you being ironic? look back through the thread at the first comment of right wing posters... damn sight better than the game show host clegg and the wallace and gromit wannabe.. and then you have the previous PM...the man was a complete loser plus an insulting picture labelled as Milliband. I'm not saying they're wrong or that left wing posters don't lower themselves to petty insults, but it seems odd to single them out in a thread generally filled with the usual mud-slinging from both sides. His predecessor (the one eyed mong) was utterly embarrassing The previous incumbent was an utter clown Socialists aren't very bright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 Norway, you lefty-mong Why do you have to be such a lefty mong? I am offended by you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 I don't think it is fair to comment until he been in power for at least 13 years and started at least three different wars Given the mess HIS spending review has left him with, ( a total lack of effective naval and air power ), he is trying his best in the middle east - he did go on tour with arms salesmen. It's the new Tory way - to save British public money, encourage the fuzzies to fight amongst themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 Given the mess HIS spending review has left him with, ( a total lack of effective naval and air power ), he is trying his best in the middle east - he did go on tour with arms salesmen. It's the new Tory way - to save British public money, encourage the fuzzies to fight amongst themselves. he went to kuwait with arms salesmen....you think kuwait are about to tear up the middle east..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 he went to kuwait with arms salesmen....you think kuwait are about to tear up the middle east..? Not at all, but post Tunisia, at the height of the Egyptian uprising, and with the problems in Yemen and Bahrain ( pretty close to Kuwait ), what impression did the TV images and press coverage of the British PM in the immediate neighbourhood make ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbul Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 I think he's good PM and leader that makes us look good on the global stage. His predecessor (the one eyed mong) was utterly embarrassing. I also admire him for making deep cuts to the public sector to tackle the mess left by Labour. Nothing at all to do with a global recession and the banks greed then? And what will happen when the infrastructure starts to break down due to these cuts in the public sector? It is starting to happen already with police overtime being stopped; and libraries shutting. Oh hang on, if the masses haven't got access to literature, they can't educate themselves and they will therefore be easier to subjugate!! That coupled with increases in university fees....Genius!!! Let's not forget that the rush to sort out this economic [global] crisis is political; there is absolutely no need to try and wipe the slate clean in 4 years so there is absolutely no need to dismantle the public sector or the NHS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 Nothing at all to do with a global recession and the banks greed then? And what will happen when the infrastructure starts to break down due to these cuts in the public sector? It is starting to happen already with police overtime being stopped; and libraries shutting. Oh hang on, if the masses haven't got access to literature, they can't educate themselves and they will therefore be easier to subjugate!! That coupled with increases in university fees....Genius!!! Let's not forget that the rush to sort out this economic [global] crisis is political; there is absolutely no need to try and wipe the slate clean in 4 years so there is absolutely no need to dismantle the public sector or the NHS. Do you have any idea how much interest we paying to service the debt and how much more we need to borrow because of the mess labour left this country in? Labour have always left this country on its knees for the conservatives to sort out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 he went to kuwait with arms salesmen....you think kuwait are about to tear up the middle east..? Funny that country we liberated still has NO democracy, still represses women and minorities, and obviously is stocking up on batons and tear gas in case any of the working classes get any funny ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 Funny that country we liberated still has NO democracy, still represses women and minorities, and obviously is stocking up on batons and tear gas in case any of the working classes get any funny ideas. are you saying we should tell others how to run their affairs..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 are you saying we should tell others how to run their affairs..? Should we not, therefore, stay out of the debate over Gaddafi ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 are you saying we should tell others how to run their affairs..? lol! I imagine you were in favour of invading iraq etc etc?!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 lol! I imagine you were in favour of invading iraq etc etc?!!! why..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 Do you have any idea how much interest we paying to service the debt and how much more we need to borrow because of the mess labour left this country in? Labour have always left this country on its knees for the conservatives to sort out. Dune, who are we paying interest to? Name them? Who owns the bank of England. Name them as well. Why are we paying interest to anyone. Why can't we the people create money in the same way the bank does but with a low (or no interest) interest Who decided to bail out the banks with our money without asking us first? Something about this stinks.....you obsess with trying to say we have 2 different parties etcwhen I think they are pretty much identical and you come across as a complete *****. You redeem yourself when you talk about the 2nd war though. have a lovely evening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 (edited) Dune, who are we paying interest to? Name them? I'm not sure of the latest figures, but a few years ago (before Labour really went to town) the largest buyer of UK gilts was insurance companies and pension funds closely followed the overseas investors. I'm would think it's highly likely that overseas investors are now the largest owner in line with the USA who publish who these overseas investors are. If we are anything like the USA (probable) we are in the debt of Marxist China. In effect China is building an Empire and unless thick people realise that the Conservative cuts are essential we will effectively become slaves to them. It's about time people started educating Socialist types to the reality of the situation. Edited 5 March, 2011 by dune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 Dune, who are we paying interest to? Name them? Who owns the bank of England. Name them as well. Why are we paying interest to anyone. Why can't we the people create money in the same way the bank does but with a low (or no interest) interest Who decided to bail out the banks with our money without asking us first? Something about this stinks.....you obsess with trying to say we have 2 different parties etcwhen I think they are pretty much identical and you come across as a complete *****. You redeem yourself when you talk about the 2nd war though. have a lovely evening You don't think that "we the people creating money" would make the money that is already in the economy everso slightly worthless? Didn't you do GCSE history and the story of Germany between the wars. "We the people" giving each other a crisp £10,000 note each isn't actually going to make anyone richer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 You don't think that "we the people creating money" would make the money that is already in the economy everso slightly worthless? Didn't you do GCSE history and the story of Germany between the wars. "We the people" giving each other a crisp £10,000 note each isn't actually going to make anyone richer. You only have to look to Rhodesia and it's hyper-inflation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 You don't think that "we the people creating money" would make the money that is already in the economy everso slightly worthless? Didn't you do GCSE history and the story of Germany between the wars. "We the people" giving each other a crisp £10,000 note each isn't actually going to make anyone richer. How do banks create money? Let me see....take a building society that has deposits of 1 million? They can lend between 10 and twenty times that and so can banks. The money as far as I can figure out did not and does not exist as money - it exists as debt. Have I got this correct. They do not lend out money pe se. So you have done your GCSE home work tell me where I am going wrong? All I am asking is this.....if banks can do it, why can't governments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 I'm not sure of the latest figures, but a few years ago (before Labour really went to town) the largest buyer of UK gilts was insurance companies and pension funds closely followed the overseas investors. I'm would think it's highly likely that overseas investors are now the largest owner in line with the USA who publish who these overseas investors are. If we are anything like the USA (probable) we are in the debt of Marxist China. In effect China is building an Empire and unless thick people realise that the Conservative cuts are essential we will effectively become slaves to them. It's about time people started educating Socialist types to the reality of the situation. OK Dune we are getting somewhere. So the question is this...who owns the insurance companies and pension funds who buy the gilts? Are they independent....lets assume that China owns a lot our debt........ take the mortgage example that maybe only 5% or 10% of what gets loaned out is backed up by assets. Why should we be paying back debt when it was not backed up by assets in the first place. If its the banks in China who loaned the money then we should default on the loans, these are the loans that are not actually backed up by any meaningful assets.... I am surprised in a free country like ours you cant instantly name those to whom we are paying our £120 million a day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 (edited) You only have to look to Rhodesia and it's hyper-inflation. I agree and I remember that the money wasn't backed up by anything.......no gold, silver or land, nothing..... What's different today other than to present day where we conduct business on the basis that the loans are backed up by assets when they are not. Edited 5 March, 2011 by Seaford Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 Everytime I find myself not liking him, I think of Osborne or Gove in charge of the country, and then realise how much worse we could have it. For a Tory he is bearable, just. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acersaint Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 You guys are having a laugh. There are such echos Of Maggie thatcher. This guy will have us back in high unemployment begging him to let us work for less than minimum wage. They are going to undo all the good that was done previously for the working man. Believe me they only have the interest of the elite minority at heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 All politicians are in it for their own ends. But if you are looking for a real bellend look at Gordon Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 You guys are having a laugh. There are such echos Of Maggie thatcher. This guy will have us back in high unemployment begging him to let us work for less than minimum wage. They are going to undo all the good that was done previously for the working man. Believe me they only have the interest of the elite minority at heart. Ahh thats why manufacturing went to Asia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 6 March, 2011 Share Posted 6 March, 2011 Although I am not a Conservative supporter, I have to say he has impressed me so far in the way that he carries himself in public and represents Britain on the world stage. The previous incumbent was an utter clown and a national embarrassment so DC has been a breath of fresh air in that he speaks coherently and intelligently. Exactly. Regardless of what you think of his policies to describe him as a "bellend" cannot be right. He is head and shoulders, as a statesman, above any party leader or PM since Thatcher. The only exception might be Blair but there is someone who truly is an almighty bellend. Cameron or Brown/Prescott/Millibean representing Britain on the world stage? There's a tough choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 6 March, 2011 Share Posted 6 March, 2011 Exactly. Regardless of what you think of his policies to describe him as a "bellend" cannot be right. He is head and shoulders, as a statesman, above any party leader or PM since Thatcher. The only exception might be Blair but there is someone who truly is an almighty bellend. Cameron or Brown/Prescott/Millibean representing Britain on the world stage? There's a tough choice. Not sure why you've got Prescott in there. He's never been PM (or didn't you know that?) Both Milibands were and still are highly respected on the world stage. I'm not too sure that Cameron is (yet, or ever will be). He doesn't seem to do anything of any importance - he just poses about looking for photo opportunities IMO. Even the Americans seem to be ignoring his suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 6 March, 2011 Share Posted 6 March, 2011 You only have to look to Zimbabwe and it's hyper-inflation. That's better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 6 March, 2011 Share Posted 6 March, 2011 Do you have any idea how much interest we paying to service the debt and how much more we need to borrow because of the mess labour left this country in? Labour have always left this country on its knees for the conservatives to sort out. And do you realise that deficit - caused worldwide by the Tory's most natural backers incidentally - could be wiped out at a stroke by the corporations paying tax at the prescibed rate in the country that they did their business in rather than it going to their shareholders and upper management in bonuses? Barclays would be a case in point - do the maths on the difference on the difference between 2% and 28% on their taxable profit and they are just one of tens of thousands. I share the belief that Brown, for all his shortcomings, will be judged more kindly by history. At the moment Cameron has Clegg as his condom and Brown to blame but this is not going to sustain much longer - he is already starting to be judged on his own decisions and it's not pretty. The comparison with Thatcher is valid despite her acolytes' protests, I believe. Cameron is hell bent on enforcing his ideology on the health service, the education system and furthering it within the armed forces. This means that private and publically quoted companies and their shareholders will benefit from providing services to the very things that most have come to expect as a right...health, education and the ability of the country to defend itself. Privatisation will not improve efficiency or lower costs - witness BT, Water Companies, Electricity, Gas etc from the Thatcher era...it will direct taxpayers money in to private pockets rather than give it back in kind as the basic right to which we all subscribe. Now just who are the Tory party's prime funders? Work it out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 6 March, 2011 Share Posted 6 March, 2011 He's a tory and therefore a c**t by nature as every tory is. However, I do think his desire to move away from the dependence on financial services to a more balanced economy is a sensible move and should be applauded. If he has the capability to actually make it happen I doubt but, for once, I don't believe that they are hollow words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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