trousers Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1362860/AC-Milan-eyeing-Southamptons-Alex-Oxlade-Chamberlain.html AC Milan are weighing up whether to join the race to sign Southampton whizkid Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain. The Saints starlet remains a target for Arsenal after Arsene Wenger failed to sign him during the January transfer window, while Liverpool, Manchester United and City are also keen on the 17-year-old winger. And now the Italian giants are keeping an eye on Oxlade-Chamberlain, sending scouts to watch his England Under 21 debut in Italy last month, according to the Daily Star.
Window Cleaner Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 it was Barcelona yesterday Agent must be working hard then:blush:
jam Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 I'm pretty surprised to read that there were AC Milan and Barcelona scouts at an Italy vs. England u21 game.
hypochondriac Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 Lol Barcelona? Nowhere near good enough. I feel we are going to get some serious cash for him and it will be an amazing deal on our part. He really isn't as good as the hype says if we hadn't bought through so many youngsters and talked him up as better than Theo then there wouldn't be half as much fuss.
Evil Monkey Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 Lol Barcelona? Nowhere near good enough. I feel we are going to get some serious cash for him and it will be an amazing deal on our part. He really isn't as good as the hype says if we hadn't bought through so many youngsters and talked him up as better than Theo then there wouldn't be half as much fuss. He would walk into their first team.
Rory Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 I'm pretty surprised to read that there were AC Milan and Barcelona scouts at an Italy vs. England u21 game. Why? The game was in Italy.
Window Cleaner Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 Why? The game was in Italy. I think the reply was kind of sarcastic. Anyway at Barca he'd be played on the left, have we tried that with him as yet?
jam Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 I think the reply was kind of sarcastic. Anyway at Barca he'd be played on the left, have we tried that with him as yet? You think right. The point being there's huge potential for 2+2=5 with this story, unless the scouts from AC and Barca actually said that they were there to check out chambo. I think we played him on the left against Utd and in switched him about a bit. For me he's nowhere near as effective out there but neither was Lallana at first.
Window Cleaner Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 You think right. The point being there's huge potential for 2+2=5 with this story, unless the scouts from AC and Barca actually said that they were there to check out chambo. I think we played him on the left against Utd and in switched him about a bit. For me he's nowhere near as effective out there but neither was Lallana at first. I've a DVD of the Utd game, I'll have a look at it sometime and see how playing him on the left pans out.Lallana is a left footer though isn't he?
EBS1980 Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 Sell him to Barca, and get some kind of link up agreed with them as part of the deal!
Window Cleaner Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 get some kind of link up agreed with them as part of the deal! They might let us have their old bus on the cheap when they get a new one,wheels are looking a bit wobbly on ours..
Toadhall Saint Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 Lol Barcelona? Nowhere near good enough. I feel we are going to get some serious cash for him and it will be an amazing deal on our part. He really isn't as good as the hype says if we hadn't bought through so many youngsters and talked him up as better than Theo then there wouldn't be half as much fuss. So how do you rate him? Not as good as Theo by the look of it?
dickyhale Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 Its the Mail.........again ffs.....................
hypochondriac Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 So how do you rate him? Not as good as Theo by the look of it? Nowhere near as good at the moment. Anything over ten million we should snap their hand off. Imagine what we could buy for ten mill!
Deppo Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 I like the term "wonderkid". It's a step up from "starlet" and light years away from "promising youngster". At what do you stop being a "wonderkid" (and then either a star or someone who never lived up their potential?).
Dig Dig Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 I like the term "wonderkid". It's a step up from "starlet" and light years away from "promising youngster". At what do you stop being a "wonderkid" (and then either a star or someone who never lived up their potential?). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Cadamarteri
jam Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 I've a DVD of the Utd game, I'll have a look at it sometime and see how playing him on the left pans out.Lallana is a left footer though isn't he? Think he's right footed... I'll await your proving me wrong on both counts..!
Toadhall Saint Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 Nowhere near as good at the moment. Anything over ten million we should snap their hand off. Imagine what we could buy for ten mill! At the same age he's miles ahead - he can actually read the game well for one so young. Theo apart from pace is nowhere near having the same kind of football brain (and I doubt he ever will).
trousers Posted 4 March, 2011 Author Posted 4 March, 2011 Its the Mail.........again ffs..................... Who were reporting a story in the Daily Star....not sure if that makes it better or worse TBH.... ;-)
Saint_clark Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 I've a DVD of the Utd game, I'll have a look at it sometime and see how playing him on the left pans out.Lallana is a left footer though isn't he? No, although he's better with his left foot now than he was when he was a CM.
Flyer Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 If it happens, it will happen before his 18th birthday as he will count as a homegrown player in Euro comps for them.
Huffton Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 I hope they get him. Anything that pishes off that whining miserable gooner ***t is ok by me...
latter day saint Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 if/when he does go, all these interested parties will mean we will end up with a tidy sum of money. let the bidding war commence ! (unless he sees out his contract & we end up with a tribunal deciding on compo ? )
hypochondriac Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 At the same age he's miles ahead - he can actually read the game well for one so young. Theo apart from pace is nowhere near having the same kind of football brain (and I doubt he ever will). Overall I rated theo as the better player at the same age. I also think Theo made a much greater contribution to the team at the time (and he was in the championship.) Regardless, Bale was better than both of them.
solentstars Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 Its the Mail.........again ffs..................... true so its got to be made up,a paper for the angry brigade of losers
The Worm Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 He would walk into their first team. Swap deal for Messi
Window Cleaner Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 Swap deal for Messi Messi + a lot of cash surely. He's a superstar don'tcha know.
sambosa75 Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 Totally agree with a lot of the comments on this thread. He is a decent player with promise but putting him in the same bracket as a Gareth Bale or Theo Walcott is ridiculous. Bale and Walcott influenced games in the Championship week in, week out. Chamberlain doesnt yet have that ability and I doubt he will be here by the time he matures in to a player than can. I swear half the money put on his estimated value is due to the fact he is coming from the famed Southampton academy which can only bode well for us in the future. £10m for him would be incredible business.
The Godfather Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 Watch out for a big article in tomorrow's papers with AFC Wimbledon & Crawley battling to sign Chamberlain aswell.
Smirking_Saint Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 At the same age he's miles ahead - he can actually read the game well for one so young. Theo apart from pace is nowhere near having the same kind of football brain (and I doubt he ever will). I wouldn't bother argueing, Hypo basis his thoughts about any player or indeed life in general on what the lads say in the school library queue, just before he reports them for logging into their home email accounts. FWIW i think the deal is already done, and he is Arsenal bound.
sambosa75 Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 I wouldn't bother argueing, Hypo basis his thoughts about any player or indeed life in general on what the lads say in the school library queue, just before he reports them for logging into their home email accounts. FWIW i think the deal is already done, and he is Arsenal bound. So you'd both rather have AOC in your side than the Theo Walcott that left us for Arsenal back in 2006?
hypochondriac Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 Totally agree with a lot of the comments on this thread. He is a decent player with promise but putting him in the same bracket as a Gareth Bale or Theo Walcott is ridiculous. Bale and Walcott influenced games in the Championship week in, week out. Chamberlain doesnt yet have that ability and I doubt he will be here by the time he matures in to a player than can. I swear half the money put on his estimated value is due to the fact he is coming from the famed Southampton academy which can only bode well for us in the future. £10m for him would be incredible business. This. It is good that we have a reputation as a breeding ground for quality players. It can only add to a player's value.
hypochondriac Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 So you'd both rather have AOC in your side than the Theo Walcott that left us for Arsenal back in 2006? Oh God don't quote the little turd. Football is all about opinions but with the facts we do have, Walcott was our most influential player in the championship. We relied on him in many games. Chamberlin isn't even our best player in league one.
Window Cleaner Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 So you'd both rather have AOC in your side than the Theo Walcott that left us for Arsenal back in 2006? Personally I'd rather have Craig Mackail Smith but then what do I know.I am not particularly concerned about next season or the one after because it's a pound to a radish that AOC won't still be here anyway. I'd rather have a lighting fast,man shrugging off striker who's scored a shedload now than a wonder boy who's just using us as a stepping stone...but there you go, I have strange opinions about many things.
Smirking_Saint Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 So you'd both rather have AOC in your side than the Theo Walcott that left us for Arsenal back in 2006? A ??? When did i say that ? IMO Chamberlain is a better all round player at the same age as Walcott was when he was here, if you are comaring them right now, I.e a 17/18 yr old Chambo to a 20 yr old walcott then I would have Walcott atm. Bale was the best of all three though, and i have seen all three of them, many times in a Saints shirt. EDIT - i get what you meant now sorry, and the answer is yes, i would rather have a current Chambo to the Walcott that left us in 2006
sambosa75 Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 Personally I'd rather have Craig Mackail Smith but then what do I know.I am not particularly concerned about next season or the one after because it's a pound to a radish that AOC won't still be here anyway. I'd rather have a lighting fast,man shrugging off striker who's scored a shedload now than a wonder boy who's just using us as a stepping stone...but there you go, I have strange opinions about many things. I dont think anyone would argue about that! He'd be a great partner for RL but I'd imagine there will be sides in the Championship more than willing to take a punt on him too. That said, I'd be quite happy if we sold AOC for £10m, £5m up front and used £2m of the up front money to bring Mackail Smith in. Get on the blower to Nige and let him know this is whats happening.
sambosa75 Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 A ??? When did i say that ? IMO Chamberlain is a better all round player at the same age as Walcott was when he was here, if you are comaring them right now, I.e a 17/18 yr old Chambo to a 20 yr old walcott then I would have Walcott atm. Bale was the best of all three though, and i have seen all three of them, many times in a Saints shirt. EDIT - i get what you meant now sorry, and the answer is yes, i would rather have a current Chambo to the Walcott that left us in 2006 I asked if you would rather have AOC now or the player Walcott was at the time he left us. To be honest I am still amazed you would go for AOC. He's decent but Walcott absolutely dominated games at a higher level. As hypo said, AOC isnt even our best player and we are in League One.
Matthew Le God Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 £10m for him would be incredible business. Alex has some of the biggest clubs in the world interested in him and important people in the national setup rating him very highly. Selling him for £10m, when he still has over 15 years of good playing time ahead of him, would not be "incredible business". With the club being backed financially for the first time in 125 years, it is under no financial pressure to sell.
Smirking_Saint Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 I asked if you would rather have AOC now or the player Walcott was at the time he left us. To be honest I am still amazed you would go for AOC. He's decent but Walcott absolutely dominated games at a higher level. As hypo said, AOC isnt even our best player and we are in League One. Horses for courses, I am of the opinion that if Chambo was playing in the championship then he would also dominate it in a similar way to Walcott, lets face it, first and foremost Walcott is a sprinter and his football comes second, Chambo has IMO more to his game and i believe he could turn out to be the better player. Just IMO anyway.
Matthew Le God Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 I'd be quite happy if we sold AOC for £10m, £5m up front and used £2m of the up front money to bring Mackail Smith in. If Saints are spending money regardless of selling youth products. There is no need to sell the youth products.
Smirking_Saint Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 Alex has some of the biggest clubs in the world interested in him and important people in the national setup rating him very highly. Selling him for £10m, when he still has over 15 years of good playing time ahead of him, would not be "incredible business". With the club being backed financially for the first time in 125 years, it is under no financial pressure to sell. We are league 1 BTW
hypochondriac Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 Alex has some of the biggest clubs in the world interested in him and important people in the national setup rating him very highly. Selling him for £10m, when he still has over 15 years of good playing time ahead of him, would not be "incredible business". With the club being backed financially for the first time in 125 years, it is under no financial pressure to sell. Yes it would.
hypochondriac Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 If Saints are spending money regardless of selling youth products. There is no need to sell the youth products. Except that the evidence from January (and you could argue the summer) suggests that is not the case.
hypochondriac Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 I just can't see why people think Chamberlin is better than Walcoot was. Chamberlin has not even played in the championship, Walcott was our best player in the CCC and we relied on him a lot. We don't rely on Chamberlin really and he has some good and some bad games. He won't go on to be more successful than Walcott is atm IMO.
Matthew Le God Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 He is a decent player with promise but putting him in the same bracket as a Gareth Bale or Theo Walcott is ridiculous. Bale and Walcott influenced games in the Championship week in, week out. Chamberlain doesnt yet have that ability and I doubt he will be here by the time he matures in to a player than can. A strange logic you use there. As Saints are not a Championship club at the moment, so Alex hasn't had that opportunity. Doesn't mean he wouldn't though. Some of the best managers in the world have publicly rated him highly as have important people in the England setup.
hypochondriac Posted 4 March, 2011 Posted 4 March, 2011 A strange logic you use there. As Saints are not a Championship club at the moment, so Alex hasn't had that opportunity. Doesn't mean he wouldn't though. Some of the best managers in the world have publicly rated him highly as have important people in the England setup. He hasn't been tested at a higher level. He isn't better than Walcott was. Good player no doubt, hence the england involvement and big clubs sniffing around. Ten million would be brilliant business as all of it could be used to buy decent players.
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