OldNick Posted 3 March, 2011 Share Posted 3 March, 2011 WTF are you on about? Canada saint obviously is an ex saints player who played with Mick Channon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Leake Saint Posted 3 March, 2011 Share Posted 3 March, 2011 Saints lose 1-0 at Walsall and 8 pages on the official thread, plus a number of other threads. Dean Richards passes away tragically at a very young age, 5 pages on the official thread. Hmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 March, 2011 Share Posted 3 March, 2011 Saints lose 1-0 at Walsall and 8 pages on the official thread, plus a number of other threads. Dean Richards passes away tragically at a very young age, 5 pages on the official thread. Hmmm. Hmmm what ? The threads are driven by discussion and debate, which means disagreement. What is there to disagree with about the tragedy of Deano's death ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 March, 2011 Share Posted 3 March, 2011 Source? leftback....say no more squire,say no more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 3 March, 2011 Share Posted 3 March, 2011 I'm just glad that too many people didn't harp on the fact that the Walsall defence included one...Oliver Lancashire ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 3 March, 2011 Share Posted 3 March, 2011 I'm just glad that too many people didn't harp on the fact that the Walsall defence included one...Oliver Lancashire ! Had a decent game, he's clearly come leaps and bounds since he was knocking them in our net every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 3 March, 2011 Share Posted 3 March, 2011 Saints lose 1-0 at Walsall and 8 pages on the official thread, plus a number of other threads. Dean Richards passes away tragically at a very young age, 5 pages on the official thread. Hmmm. What a ridiculous insinuation. The tributes on the Dean Richard's thread are restricted to one (or two in my case) replies expressing their commiserations/respect/tributes to a fine player who tragically passed away too early. No need for any other threads, no need for debate, people's thoughts are clear. On this thread and other threads connected to the match, performance and result there are a myriad of opinions, an exchange of thoughts, argument and counter argument, what ifs, buts and a whole host of other posts going back and forth. To try and suggest something is amiss is somewhat missing the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 3 March, 2011 Share Posted 3 March, 2011 Saints lose 1-0 at Walsall and 8 pages on the official thread, plus a number of other threads. Dean Richards passes away tragically at a very young age, 5 pages on the official thread. Hmmm. Why would you like us to disagree about a tragic death? it's not really going to be a thread for heated debate is it? what an odd post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 March, 2011 Share Posted 3 March, 2011 What a ridiculous insinuation. The tributes on the Dean Richard's thread are restricted to one (or two in my case) replies expressing their commiserations/respect/tributes to a fine player who tragically passed away too early. No need for any other threads, no need for debate, people's thoughts are clear. On this thread and other threads connected to the match, performance and result there are a myriad of opinions, an exchange of thoughts, argument and counter argument, what ifs, buts and a whole host of other posts going back and forth. To try and suggest something is amiss is somewhat missing the point. That the DR thread is shorter than the post match for Tuesday must be my fault. I haven't posted on the DR thread because I've absolutely nothing to say on that subject,or ever on any similar thread.Although with 217 or so posts that would mean that I'm not the only one right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 3 March, 2011 Share Posted 3 March, 2011 I think he is calling you a nob. HTH On another note, i think half or so of the posters above actually prefer it when we lose: chance for a good moan, kick the cat, slap the mis... oh Thanks, doesn't take a lot of perception to work that out, that is if the brain works quicker than the mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 3 March, 2011 Share Posted 3 March, 2011 I'm just glad that too many people didn't harp on the fact that the Walsall defence included one...Oliver Lancashire ! Had a decent game, he's clearly come leaps and bounds since he was knocking them in our net every week. Always was a good player, even when he was at Saints. Was captain of our U18's, reserves and capped at England U19 level. Was highly regarded during his time here and predicted to have a bright future. Problem was, he was thrown in too early under the Poortvliet era, and it knocked him back a few steps in terms of development. Hopefully he'll settle at Walsall and prove that he's got what it takes to make a decent career for himself. Always find some of the criticism thrown at him by sections of our support as slightly unjust and a little unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 3 March, 2011 Share Posted 3 March, 2011 Always was a good player, even when he was at Saints. Was captain of our U18's, reserves and capped at England U19 level. Was highly regarded during his time here and predicted to have a bright future. Problem was, he was thrown in too early under the Poortvliet era, and it knocked him back a few steps in terms of development. Hopefully he'll settle at Walsall and prove that he's got what it takes to make a decent career for himself. Always find some of the criticism thrown at him by sections of our support as slightly unjust and a little unfair. I thought we should have given him more time despite signing Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 March, 2011 Share Posted 3 March, 2011 (edited) Lancashire was responsible for two of the worst pieces of play I've ever seen from any professional footballer last season away to Swindon. One step over dummy 10 yards from the halfway line under pressure from the striker which led to him accidentally stabbing the ball out for a corner (40 yards away). One unchallenged clearance with the ball on the floor, which went from the edge of the area to the 10th row of the stand near the halfway line without a hint of who it was originally intended for. In addition to that he was slow and got himself sent off too often, DESPITE having pros like Thomas and Perry around to give him a hand. Aaron Martin in contrast at least looks like he might be capable of stepping up. From the BBC highlights we had as many chances as we wanted, their keeper made some great saves. That doesn't say "excellent defensive performance" even if they did somehow keep a clean sheet. Edited 3 March, 2011 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 8 May, 2011 Share Posted 8 May, 2011 After Walsall away and this reaction (some classics in there!) we were 1 point behind Peterborough 4 behind Huddersfield 6 behind cherries 10 behind Brighton Even I didn't think the next 15 games would be W 2-0 W 3-0 W 3-1 W 2-0 D 1-1 W 3-2 W 2-0 W 2-0 L 0-2 W 1-0 W 2-1 W 2-0 W 3-0 W 3-1 W 3-1 now 21 points clear of cherries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 9 May, 2011 Share Posted 9 May, 2011 After Walsall away and this reaction (some classics in there!) we were 1 point behind Peterborough 4 behind Huddersfield 6 behind cherries 10 behind Brighton Even I didn't think the next 15 games would be W 2-0 W 3-0 W 3-1 W 2-0 D 1-1 W 3-2 W 2-0 W 2-0 L 0-2 W 1-0 W 2-1 W 2-0 W 3-0 W 3-1 W 3-1 now 21 points clear of cherries. And the point of this post is what exactly ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 9 May, 2011 Share Posted 9 May, 2011 and the point of this post is what exactly ? w 2-0 w 3-0 w 3-1 w 2-0 d 1-1 w 3-2 w 2-0 w 2-0 l 0-2 w 1-0 w 2-1 w 2-0 w 3-0 w 3-1 w 3-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cestrian Saint Posted 9 May, 2011 Share Posted 9 May, 2011 If we'd won away at Walsall we'd have been Champions. Ah well, it's always easy to tak about what could have been. Just glad to be back in the Championship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 9 May, 2011 Share Posted 9 May, 2011 After Walsall away and this reaction (some classics in there!) we were 1 point behind Peterborough 4 behind Huddersfield 6 behind cherries 10 behind Brighton Even I didn't think the next 15 games would be W 2-0 W 3-0 W 3-1 W 2-0 D 1-1 W 3-2 W 2-0 W 2-0 L 0-2 W 1-0 W 2-1 W 2-0 W 3-0 W 3-1 W 3-1 now 21 points clear of cherries. why are you being a bellend and bring up all the negative threads this season? Get over yourself, it's boring. After going to the Wallsall game and seeing us huff and puff to break down the team who at the time were the second worst at home in the whole country i didn't think we'd make promotion. Did anyone really think we'd then win 13 of our last 15 games? Anyone that says they did is a liar. We needed that incredible form to stay ahead of Huddersfiled who themselves were on a great run, because of performances like Wallsall, like notts County & Brentford at home. We've achieved promotion but your constant "look at me, i was right" is getting f*cking boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 9 May, 2011 Share Posted 9 May, 2011 After Walsall away and this reaction (some classics in there!) we were 1 point behind Peterborough 4 behind Huddersfield 6 behind cherries 10 behind Brighton Even I didn't think the next 15 games would be W 2-0 W 3-0 W 3-1 W 2-0 D 1-1 W 3-2 W 2-0 W 2-0 L 0-2 W 1-0 W 2-1 W 2-0 W 3-0 W 3-1 W 3-1 now 21 points clear of cherries. After going to the Wallsall game and seeing us huff and puff to break down the team who at the time were the second worst at home in the whole country i didn't think we'd make promotion. Did anyone really think we'd then win 13 of our last 15 games? Anyone that says they did is a liar. We needed that incredible form to stay ahead of Huddersfiled who themselves were on a great run, because of performances like Wallsall, like notts County & Brentford at home. . My prediction for these games would have been wrong. Celebrate the run - it was amazing, probably unlikely to see 15 game run like that for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 9 May, 2011 Share Posted 9 May, 2011 My prediction for these games would have been wrong. Celebrate the run - it was amazing, probably unlikely to see 15 game run like that for a while. I am and not by sniping at everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 9 May, 2011 Share Posted 9 May, 2011 why are you being a bellend and bring up all the negative threads this season? Get over yourself, it's boring. After going to the Wallsall game and seeing us huff and puff to break down the team who at the time were the second worst at home in the whole country i didn't think we'd make promotion. Did anyone really think we'd then win 13 of our last 15 games? Anyone that says they did is a liar. We needed that incredible form to stay ahead of Huddersfiled who themselves were on a great run, because of performances like Wallsall, like notts County & Brentford at home. We've achieved promotion but your constant "look at me, i was right" is getting f*cking boring. I have to say, this post is spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 9 May, 2011 Share Posted 9 May, 2011 If we'd won away at Walsall we'd have been Champions. Ah well, it's always easy to tak about what could have been. Just glad to be back in the Championship! No we wouldn't. Brighton would've not taken their foot off the gas quite so early. Very proud of our run in but the 3 points behind Brighton doesn't quite tell the story does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 9 May, 2011 Share Posted 9 May, 2011 I was looking on OS to see when this great run started, although we have done very well since Adkins arrived we seemed to get into top gear after Walsall game. I thought would post run and seemed suitable place. I genuinely did not mean to embarrass people for their earlier posts (although one posters reaction did make me laugh! ) I will start a new thread on the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 9 May, 2011 Share Posted 9 May, 2011 No we wouldn't. Brighton would've not taken their foot off the gas quite so early. Very proud of our run in but the 3 points behind Brighton doesn't quite tell the story does it? if we hadn't started so badly then maybe then would not have come to St Marys for a draw and we could have beaten them then! They keep saying the league table is over the season (rightly) - not just the second half when we have been better, so that also includes last few games, so they did just beat us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 9 May, 2011 Share Posted 9 May, 2011 if we hadn't started so badly then maybe then would not have come to St Marys for a draw and we could have beaten them then! They keep saying the league table is over the season (rightly) - not just the second half when we have been better, so that also includes last few games, so they did just beat us I have to say, this post is spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 9 May, 2011 Share Posted 9 May, 2011 why are you being a bellend and bring up all the negative threads this season? Get over yourself, it's boring. After going to the Wallsall game and seeing us huff and puff to break down the team who at the time were the second worst at home in the whole country i didn't think we'd make promotion. Did anyone really think we'd then win 13 of our last 15 games? Anyone that says they did is a liar. We needed that incredible form to stay ahead of Huddersfiled who themselves were on a great run, because of performances like Wallsall, like notts County & Brentford at home. We've achieved promotion but your constant "look at me, i was right" is getting f*cking boring. Superb post. I note with interest that NickG is finally being sussed out on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 9 May, 2011 Share Posted 9 May, 2011 I genuinely did not mean to embarrass people for their earlier posts The only person who should be embarrassed should be you with your constant need of self gratification and worthiness, coupled with an obvious insecurity issue that needs to be fed by attempting to show up others. How any Saints fan can be embarrassed at seeing their Club promoted and seeing such joyous scenes over the weekend is beyond me. At this moment in time I would imagine that anyone who blew a gasket over the Wallsall loss is feeling something much more positive and joyous, and is not even contemplating being embarrassed. The overwhelming majority of the initial responses on this thread are from passionate supporters who were obviously frustrated at losing to a team fighting relegation, whilst we were challenging for promotion. Throw in the immediacy and the knee jerkiness of the interweb and it should be no surprise that people let off steam on threads like these. It is not a measure of their support, indeed I would say their passionate outbursts show how much this Club means to them. Methinks you really need to give it a rest with this approach and instead wallow in the delight and happiness of promotion (or see a shrink). HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 9 May, 2011 Share Posted 9 May, 2011 No we wouldn't. Brighton would've not taken their foot off the gas quite so early. Very proud of our run in but the 3 points behind Brighton doesn't quite tell the story does it? Yes it does. Brighton fans are using the fact they signed off before our game with them as an excuse for us only finishing 3 points behind them. Yet when we use excuses such as having the Pardew/Adkins changover and other teams raising their games against us, these are just poor excuses. The league table is only a true reflection of achievement once every team has played every other twice. Brighton won the league fair and square but if you look at the season as a whole, we werent far behind them, especially if you consider goal difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 9 May, 2011 Share Posted 9 May, 2011 Yes it does. Brighton fans are using the fact they signed off before our game with them as an excuse for us only finishing 3 points behind them. Yet when we use excuses such as having the Pardew/Adkins changover and other teams raising their games against us, these are just poor excuses. The league table is only a true reflection of achievement once every team has played every other twice. Brighton won the league fair and square but if you look at the season as a whole, we werent far behind them, especially if you consider goal difference. When I say the table doesn't tell the whole story what I mean is, if you look at the final table you could say it seems that we ran them close, when in reality they won it comfortably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 9 May, 2011 Share Posted 9 May, 2011 The only person who should be embarrassed should be you with your constant need of self gratification and worthiness, coupled with an obvious insecurity issue that needs to be fed by attempting to show up others. How any Saints fan can be embarrassed at seeing their Club promoted and seeing such joyous scenes over the weekend is beyond me. At this moment in time I would imagine that anyone who blew a gasket over the Wallsall loss is feeling something much more positive and joyous, and is not even contemplating being embarrassed. The overwhelming majority of the initial responses on this thread are from passionate supporters who were obviously frustrated at losing to a team fighting relegation, whilst we were challenging for promotion. Throw in the immediacy and the knee jerkiness of the interweb and it should be no surprise that people let off steam on threads like these. It is not a measure of their support, indeed I would say their passionate outbursts show how much this Club means to them. Methinks you really need to give it a rest with this approach and instead wallow in the delight and happiness of promotion (or see a shrink). HTH Yep, just about covers it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 9 May, 2011 Share Posted 9 May, 2011 No problem with people being down after a loss, but a few should take a look at their comments and just learn not to write things off so early, or base such strong opinions on single games. It's a long old season, so base your opinions on that. Why should their reaction conform to your expectations ? Its down to the individual to response in these cases as they see fit, just as everyone is allowed to celebrate promotion in their own way. I've always thought with this team they need the occasional loss at a poor side to give them a kick up the arse and spur them on. Walsall and Rochdale, 2 poor results yes, but 2 results that spurred us on to a fantastic run overall. That's why the 'points needed from games in hand' debate was silly, because no-one seemed to consider the impact of those games on our other performances. Agree with the occasional kick in the arse theory, but it doesnt always work and could be the opening of a serious slump in form. Look at Bournemouth. Considering the impact of those games in thier immediate aftermath is exceedingly difficult. Being p*ssed off at a defeat and having to consider it at all, and ranting about that, isnt difficult... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted 9 May, 2011 Share Posted 9 May, 2011 Superb post. I note with interest that NickG is finally being sussed out on here. I really don't get where you lot are coming from - what exactly has NickG done wrong here? Personally I think that the (predictable) overreaction to the Walsall defeat, coupled with the incredible run subsequently, is an interesting observation to share. I didn't sense any "sniping" - perhaps the miserable doom-mongers (yes you and your ilk Alpine) have had certain nerves touched? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 9 May, 2011 Share Posted 9 May, 2011 I really don't get where you lot are coming from - what exactly has NickG done wrong here? Personally I think that the (predictable) overreaction to the Walsall defeat, coupled with the incredible run subsequently, is an interesting observation to share. I didn't sense any "sniping" - perhaps the miserable doom-mongers (yes you and your ilk Alpine) have had certain nerves touched? You must have missed the other half dozen threads that Nick has dredged up from the past the last week............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 9 May, 2011 Share Posted 9 May, 2011 You must have missed the other half dozen threads that Nick has dredged up from the past the last week............. Exactly, or indeed the numerous ones he has started throughout the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 9 May, 2011 Share Posted 9 May, 2011 (edited) I really don't get where you lot are coming from - what exactly has NickG done wrong here? Personally I think that the (predictable) overreaction to the Walsall defeat, coupled with the incredible run subsequently, is an interesting observation to share. I didn't sense any "sniping" - perhaps the miserable doom-mongers (yes you and your ilk Alpine) have had certain nerves touched? Not been around much since the Plymouth game ? There has been a constant undercurrent of snide comments and dredging up old threads since then, mostly coming from this particular poster. I reckon its attention-seeking, plain and simple. Something to pity as much as ridicule. Edited 9 May, 2011 by alpine_saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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