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Oh shut up. It means a lot to some people when their football team loses. Let people be a bit fed up for a few hours and stop being so bloody high and mighty

 

quite . Most of us do this stuff to get away from the slog of real life.

All I want at the moment football wise, is for us to be up against our "equals"....derby, ipswich, cov, forest etc.not that much to ask.

Excuse me if i am pretty fed up as our multi million pound team screws up at hartlepool and walsallwith Average crowds well under 5k. And genuinley, no dispespect to them.

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I like to feel I normally stay fairly composed after a loss and weigh up the positives and negatives, but this result has really frinded me.

 

The amount of times this season we have worked to get ourselves in a good position and then blown it is becoming really frustrating and is now starting to make me think we do not have the bottle to maintain a push for 2nd place.

 

I do however firmly believe that a decent run will get us second quite comfortabley, especially with our games coming up. Beating the sides around us will put us in a great position. We have enough to beat anyone in this league but we just are not doing it, especially in away matches. We are scraping through in home games and winning, good yes, but in away games we are just not cutting it.

 

Tonight sounded like 'one of those games'. We dominated, had about 10 corners, had shots off the line etc etc, but for me, losing to Walsall isnt acceptable. Home or away. I really felt confident for tonight and there is no excuse for losing. I was so frustrated listening to that game but even had we scored in the 95th minute to equalize I dont think it would have brought a smile to my face as a draw away to Walsall, albeit 22nd placed Walsall just does not cut it for me.

 

I am not cynical and was accepting dropping points here and there, but it is becoming all too often now and I am starting to think we need to do what Millwall did last season and just blow everyone out of the water for the last 15 games.

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Just back from the game.

 

That was a complete clusterf*ck of a performance.

 

The tactics were all wrong.

The sub for Morgan was all wrong.

Walsall were dreadful. We gave it to them on a silver platter.

 

No imagination. Either too simple hoofing or happy tappy nothing.

 

I may write up the match report if I can be arsed.

 

TBF I don't think there was another sub he could have made for Morgan, It's not like it was planned and it probably changed the entire tactical game plan that they worked on over the last few days.

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I imagine this will be the end of the Adkins regime. Mr Cortese will not be a happy man, he wants promotion this year and Adkins seems ever more incapable of delivering it. No predictions but to deliver promotion now a new guy needs the games in hand and enough time to get things stabilised for the run-in so it has to be now before the match on Saturday and another disastrous result. If nothing changes and we lose again at Colchester it might be the end of it for this season and Adkins would surely not get another chance so ergo it seems entirely logical that he will be fired tomorrow provided that Corteses has a replacement up his sleeve.

 

The remaining question is "Who?" It's no good handing over to Wilkins as he couldn't handle it last time and now all of the best candidates with the exception of Big Sam are in work and MON of course. Could we just cling to a glimmer of hope that one of those guys might take a chance on us?

 

The alternative doesn't bear thinking abut, Cortese and the Liebherr family lose interest and sell up and we are well and truly b*ggered and stuck down here as an impoverished club with years of third division football to come.

 

Afraid to say I kind of agree with the Gooner here. Not being one for making snap judgements etc. but we can't paper over the cracks any more with this Scouse physio. NC proper manager in now! this result has got me right p i s s e d off.

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Players, manager, message boards, radio coverage persons should realise they are not expected to PERFORM they are REQUIRED TO.

 

no drawing a blue line under it and blundering onto the next disaster... someone has to take responsibility for the failure to provide a minimum standard of performance on and off the field.

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Jesus I didnt realise it was the last day of the season......... Hang on a minute I have just woken up and it's NOT the last day of the season. Whew I was worried there for a minute I thought it was all over over but no I was just panicking. Oh silly me!! Will post again when it IS the last day!! FFS get a grip guys talk about knee jerk it's a wonder you all don't knock yourselves out.!!!!!

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Glenn Hoddle or WGS. One of those two can do the job.

 

I would agree with you if amended to " Glenn Hoddle or WGS. One of those two might have done the job,once upon a time. "

 

But not now, they are in the history book and should stay there as both have subsequently been found out as lacking,Hoddle twice,and WGS at 'boro.

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I see we are still playing as individuals and not as a team , no wonder Brighton and Bournemouth are up there with their spirit.

 

No change from last season - still can't win away to the sh*t teams.

 

We'll be playing MK Dons in the play-offs I bet...will probably lose on penalties.....:(

 

Taking N'Guessan off instead of one of the useless (tonight in Chaplow's case) two Cm's or a defender is beyond me. No excuses any more.

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F*ck you Adkins you pathetic waste of space with your uninspiring cr*ppy interviews and sh*t style of play with the players you have.

F*ck you overpaid players who last gave a cr*p against Man United and never take their chances.

F*ck you sh*tty saints forum which crashes despite receiving a load of money.

F*ck you Solent which forces me to listen to Skates winning and possibly making the playoffs.

 

F*ck you.

 

Look mate, it's not all bad news the Skates won!

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TBF I don't think there was another sub he could have made for Morgan, It's not like it was planned and it probably changed the entire tactical game plan that they worked on over the last few days.

 

A switch to 4-4-2 with N'Guessan as a winger rather then slotting him into the 4-3-3 would have been a start.

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Disappointing result but the reaction on here is way overboard. We've still two games in hand over the clubs above us. (

 

Problem is though ART that this big chicken thinks we're in somewhat of a rut at them moment and for all these games in hand we are struggling for consistency and getting points on the board.

 

Last 4 games = 7 out of 12pts

 

Last 6 games = 11 out of 18pts

 

Last 8 games = 12 out of 24pts

 

With some tough away games coming up, that's not the type of form needed to get an automatic spot.

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TBF I don't think there was another sub he could have made for Morgan, It's not like it was planned and it probably changed the entire tactical game plan that they worked on over the last few days.

 

That's implying they had one to start with,as of late performances have indicated otherwise.

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A switch to 4-4-2 with N'Guessan as a winger rather Ben slotting him into the 4-3-3 would have been a start.

 

ah ok - didn't really know what tactics they deployed when he was brought on. Lots of lessons to be learned by the sounds of it.

 

Was N'Guessan any good tonight btw?

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Right. A view now from someone at the game. Tonight was one of the biggest muggings I've ever seen. An utter travesty, in fact. We totally dominated, creating loads of chances and made one mistake at the back that cost the game. They had two shots worthy of the name and Kelvin was blameless. Their keeper had a blinder, making six great saves, and we had a couple of shots cleared off the line. We managed all this despite abysmal refereeing - he gave us nothing all night including an obvious handball when the ball rolled up Richards' arm! Football's unfairness was on show tonight in a big way and I hope this has a galvanising effect. We can't afford many more bad results, regardless of the performances though.

 

Just got in.

We had lots of efforts on goal, but dont think for a second we played well & were unlucky......

Why did Adkins start with Chaplow on the wing? Then bring NGuesson on who was actually playing well only to be bought off. That will do his confidence loads of good Nigel!!!! NOT!!!

Harding, BUtterfield, Hammond all very poor. Jaidi, Fonte, Chaplow, Lambert not much better. Davis had very little to do & we missed some free headers.

I am starting to worry about Adkins now. He looks a little lost.............I have to admit I had more faith in Pardew.

All that ******** spouted about Hartlepool, Tranmere, Brentford from Adkins. I want to hear him take some responsibility for some of HIS decisions & stop the nonsense about buildings!!

 

This is getting more confusing by the second. The commentary on solent suggested that we were playing very well indeed and unlucky not to have wrapped it up in the first half, then they decided to give us the skates game instead. Half the posters on here are saying we were utter sh*te, and the other half think we played well, created loads of chances that on another day could have gone in, then got mugged by a sucker punch. Now we've got a couple of reports from fans at the game and I'm still none the wiser.

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This is getting more confusing by the second. The commentary on solent suggested that we were playing very well indeed and unlucky not to have wrapped it up in the first half, then they decided to give us the skates game instead. Half the posters on here are saying we were utter sh*te, and the other half think we played well, created loads of chances that on another day could have gone in, then got mugged by a sucker punch. Now we've got a couple of reports from fans at the game and I'm still none the wiser.

 

I'd go with Chap in the Chapel's view.

 

Just one of those games.

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ah ok - didn't really know what tactics they deployed when he was brought on. Lots of lessons to be learned by the sounds of it.

 

Was N'Guessan any good tonight btw?

 

Oh good lord.

 

He provided no width at all. Was clumsy with he ball at his feet and refused to take the man on around the outside most of the time and WHEN he did his crossing was atrocious.

 

Easily our worst player out there.

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Oh good lord.

 

He provided no width at all. Was clumsy with he ball at his feet and refused to take the man on around the outside most of the time and WHEN he did his crossing was atrocious.

 

Easily our worst player out there.

 

Oh well, my search for positives goes on.

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Oh good lord.

 

He provided no width at all. Was clumsy with he ball at his feet and refused to take the man on around the outside most of the time and WHEN he did his crossing was atrocious.

 

Easily our worst player out there.

 

And some people on here reckoned he was going to be an improvement on Antonio ?

Oh yeah, sure................we still need a winger in my opinion and he is still not getting off the bench for Reading.

FFS try and get the guy back for the rest of the season, at least we know he is capable of unsettling teams and scoring from out wide !

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Wrong,wrong,wrong.

Checkout who started the matchday threads on Saturday and was who online and posting throughout the post match thread.

And kept very quiet throughout todays matchday thread.

 

Actually, why am i trying to justify my views to you.

Put me on ignore,probably for the best eh.

 

Well TBH I don't give a f*ck if you 'don't believe me.' I am a Southampton fan and I dearly want us to do well. That does not mean excusing every sh*te performance and no I don't come on here after every bad performance, it just so happens that I was particularly fecked off by the utterly predictable performance this evening. I regularly come on here after a good result (see my reaction to the Swindon result on Saturday and the Exeter result which I actually went to) so you are completely wrong there.

 

You are wrong.

 

I stand by what I posted, and I don’t give a rat’s arse whether you like it or not.

 

I’m sick of reading the wrist-slashing crap that you two and Alpine post day-in, day-out, and you’re joined by nuts like Gooner Wayman and one-verse Dalek.

 

You both wanted a “big name” but you didn’t get that so you’re going to whine like schoolgirls and stamp your feet at every bad result. You want to be right so much that it hurts.

 

And for your information, lard, I’ve NEVER put anyone on ignore and hopefully never will.

 

I’m willing to entertain all opinions but you guys are something else.

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How many of you declaring this to be the end of our season were actually at the match tonight?

 

A simple question, not intending to inflame.

 

I was there. It is not the end of the world. But my word we need to get the basic things right before attempting champagne football away on a dismal Tuesday night in the arse end of nowhere.

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How many of you declaring this to be the end of our season were actually at the match tonight?

 

A simple question, not intending to inflame.

 

Not really relevant it's the points that matter we could have played like Barca we still came away with 0pts unlike some of our rivals. To decide if our season is going tits up you only need access to a league table not be at Walsall.

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I stand by what I posted, and I don’t give a rat’s arse whether you like it or not.

 

I’m sick of reading the wrist-slashing crap that you two and Alpine post day-in, day-out, and you’re joined by nuts like Gooner Wayman and one-verse Dalek.

 

You both wanted a “big name” but you didn’t get that so you’re going to whine like schoolgirls and stamp your feet at every bad result. You want to be right so much that it hurts.

 

And for your information, lard, I’ve NEVER put anyone on ignore and hopefully never will.

 

I’m willing to entertain all opinions but you guys are something else.

 

Well if you standby your incorrect comments with zero evidence to backup what you say (and in fact lots evidence which contradicts your statements) then you are an idiot and not worth talking to. I will react to results expressing my pleasure or anger when results come in )see here for Saturday for instance which makes your opinions sound pathetic:

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?28459-Adkins&p=977081#post977081

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?28536-Saints-v-Swindon-1st-half-amp-half-time-chat...&p=976395#post976395

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?28536-Saints-v-Swindon-1st-half-amp-half-time-chat...&p=976293#post976293

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Just back from the game. If we took half our chances tonight we'd have scored more than we did at Oldham.

 

Walsall, one chance, one goal.

 

We didn't even play that well. But every time we went forward we were dangerous.

 

These things happen, we shouldn't be too downbeat despite what some of our mong supporters will now say.

 

Not play well and create 10+ goalscoring opportunities? I'll take that every week. Sometimes we'll score 6 from about 8 chances as we did at Oldham, and sometimes we'll have nights like tonight.

 

Not worried at all.

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Yes it's a bad result but if you look at the game we clearly were the better side who dominated with 11 shots on target goal to Walsall's 3 and 9 off target!

 

The problem lies in that the chances we created and the way we played was obviously not THAT bad, however when we seemingly can't hit a barndoor with a Banjo and stick our chances away we set ourselves up for results like this.

 

The reaction on here is over the top, the expectations of automatic promotion shouldn't be abandoned after one bad result however our away form must improve and Adkins who has been VERY positive has to give some players a dressing down for missing so many chances.

 

We need to go on another run now and get a nice winning streak, the teams around us will mess up including Bournemouth the league table is set to change in the next 4 weeks, and this means our match against Bournemouth is a cup final.

 

But I think we have the mental edge against them in terms of previous results and class and the fact they're a passing team, what we struggle with is direct teams, Bournemouth aren't that.

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Report from the local Midlands paper

 

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/walsall-fc/2011/03/01/walsall-1-southampton-0/

 

Does not sound like an excuse for wrist slitting to me, but I am stuck in Aberdeen tonight rather than being at the match. BTW Matt Le Tiss is hosting a dinner at one of the local Hilton's here tomorrow, and I am flying back home in the afternoon. In all the wrong places this week.

 

Look forward to hearing from those at the game.

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Just back from the game. If we took half our chances tonight we'd have scored more than we did at Oldham.

 

Walsall, one chance, one goal.

 

We didn't even play that well. But every time we went forward we were dangerous.

 

These things happen, we shouldn't be too downbeat despite what some of our mong supporters will now say.

 

Not play well and create 10+ goalscoring opportunities? I'll take that every week. Sometimes we'll score 6 from about 8 chances as we did at Oldham, and sometimes we'll have nights like tonight.

 

Not worried at all.

 

How many chances fell to Lambo? That's the problem. Only one genuine outlet for goals. Look at Brighton - Wood, Murray and Barnes all likely to score.

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Its all relative - we lost and everyone else who played won except Charlton. Someone posted earlier that all of our opposition got points at Walsall. This is not going to get us promoted automatically. Some of the players could not hit a barn door tonight. Just not good enough. I personally am not going to slit my wrists but we cannot afford too many more of these results. Any confidence for Colchester away?

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Yes it's a bad result but if you look at the game we clearly were the better side who dominated with 11 shots on target goal to Walsall's 3 and 9 off target!

 

The problem lies in that the chances we created and the way we played was obviously not THAT bad, however when we seemingly can't hit a barndoor with a Banjo and stick our chances away we set ourselves up for results like this.

 

The reaction on here is over the top, the expectations of automatic promotion shouldn't be abandoned after one bad result however our away form must improve and Adkins who has been VERY positive has to give some players a dressing down for missing so many chances.

 

We need to go on another run now and get a nice winning streak, the teams around us will mess up including Bournemouth the league table is set to change in the next 4 weeks, and this means our match against Bournemouth is a cup final.

 

But I think we have the mental edge against them in terms of previous results and class and the fact they're a passing team, what we struggle with is direct teams, Bournemouth aren't that.

 

It isn't one bad result in isolation. We are incapable of putting a run together. Look at Huddersfield and Peterborough.

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It isn't one bad result in isolation. We are incapable of putting a run together. Look at Huddersfield and Peterborough.

 

TBF they're both incapable of putting a long run together too.

 

It's a mish mash of a league this year.

 

The only team that have shown any real consistency is Brighton. The rest have been much of a muchness which does kind of indicate that it will go right down to the last few weeks.

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Just back from the game. If we took half our chances tonight we'd have scored more than we did at Oldham.

 

Walsall, one chance, one goal.

 

We didn't even play that well. But every time we went forward we were dangerous.

 

These things happen, we shouldn't be too downbeat despite what some of our mong supporters will now say.

 

Not play well and create 10+ goalscoring opportunities? I'll take that every week. Sometimes we'll score 6 from about 8 chances as we did at Oldham, and sometimes we'll have nights like tonight.

 

Not worried at all.

 

But we didnt take the chances & we hoofed it too much..............

 

Why was AOC not playing from the start???

 

Anyone who is not at all worried is delusional................

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Just back from the game. Bad night all round.

 

THE worst home support I've ever seen.

We were poor, but I still can't believe we didn't score at least 1. It's beyond me how a goalkeeper that short and fat can be that good. We had so many chances and should have won comfortably, despite playing so badly. Not sure about NA's tactics tonight, we lost the midfield battle despite starting with Morgan, Chappers and DH, and resorted to hoofing from fairly early on.

I think Lambert needs a talking to. He won his headers but didn't look dangerous, or even interested, and spent loads of time sulking and moaning to the ref. Ref was shocking, but surely a pro footballer should know to play to the whistle.

 

No promotion with displays and results like that...

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Just back from the game. If we took half our chances tonight we'd have scored more than we did at Oldham.

 

Walsall, one chance, one goal.

 

We didn't even play that well. But every time we went forward we were dangerous.

 

These things happen, we shouldn't be too downbeat despite what some of our mong supporters will now say.

 

Not play well and create 10+ goalscoring opportunities? I'll take that every week. Sometimes we'll score 6 from about 8 chances as we did at Oldham, and sometimes we'll have nights like tonight.

 

Not worried at all.

 

Right now I'd settle for one chance, one goal and a win. The reality is playing really well/badly creating dozens of chances and still losing isn't going help us get were we want to be. 3pts is

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Well if you standby your incorrect comments with zero evidence to backup what you say (and in fact lots evidence which contradicts your statements) then you are an idiot and not worth talking to. I will react to results expressing my pleasure or anger when results come in )see here for Saturday for instance which makes your opinions sound pathetic

 

You can post all the carefully selected links you want, hypo, but if most people on this forum were asked who they'd least like to be shipwrecked with, I think Alpine would be at the top and lard, you, dalek and Charlie Wayman would be right there too.

 

Think about the number of times that you've each encountered widespread anger in response to your negative, over the top posts. Just think about it.

 

Today's result was dreadful but we're still well-placed thanks in no small part to the efforts of the guy you'd all fire - not because he deserves it but because you, in your infinite wisdom, didn't want him in the first place. Because he wasn't a "big name".

 

For most balanced people the jury is still out on Adkins, but not for you guys.

 

That's the "pathetic" opinion from this "idiot".

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TBF they're both incapable of putting a long run together too.

 

It's a mish mash of a league this year.

 

The only team that have shown any real consistency is Brighton. The rest have been much of a muchness which does kind of indicate that it will go right down to the last few weeks.

 

Huddersfield are unbeaten in 13 I believe.

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