K,Billy's supersound Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_6787333,00.html when we get promoted how about we sign him up.a proven championship player on a free. imo he's better than barnard plus it would be nice to take portsmouths one and only good player and have him score agaisnt them.
Saint Charlie Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 He is pretty poor. Not much of an improvement to Barnard.
gaz Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 Doesn't have a good goals-games ratio. Not sure how much of that is him, and how much is his supply.
SuperMikey Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 Depending on his wages, i'd take him fo' sho'. He's a good player.
Colinjb Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 Sign him. Would love to see the look on the blue few's faces!
Gemmel Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 I am still waiting to hear who Cifti has agreed a contract with after snubbing portsmouth. A young and upcoming talent....... not beyond the realms of possibility
Turkish Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 can you believe this guy played for England once. It's up there with Keith Curle, Andy Hinchcliffe, Carlton Palmer and Geoff Thomas.
Big Bad Bob Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_6787333,00.html when we get promoted how about we sign him up.a proven championship player on a free. imo he's better than barnard plus it would be nice to take portsmouths one and only good player and have him score agaisnt them. OMG you are kidding right, tell me you are taking the proverbial. OK, he has scored a goal for England, I'll give you that One good season for Preston, ****e since then
LGTL Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 can you believe this guy played for England once. It's up there with Keith Curle, Andy Hinchcliffe, Carlton Palmer and Geoff Thomas. You forgot Michael Ricketts!
K,Billy's supersound Posted 1 March, 2011 Author Posted 1 March, 2011 can you believe this guy played for England once. It's up there with Keith Curle, Andy Hinchcliffe, Carlton Palmer and Geoff Thomas. james beattie and michael rickkets
Micky Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 can you believe this guy played for England once. It's up there with Keith Curle, Andy Hinchcliffe, Carlton Palmer and Geoff Thomas. Didn't he also score an absolute screamer in said game from about errr 6 inches as well - or is my mind playing up again....???
Chez Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 Can't see Nugent joining us. He wants another Premiership size wage, so that counts us out. Should he lower his demands then that will bring the skates back into play.
Crab Lungs Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 I met David Nugent in Marbella; he called me a scummer. That said, he's actually alright and has done it at Champ level before so why not? Don't think he takes our rivalry too seriously anyway. The biggest problem would be his wages... then again, he wont' get another contract like the one he got a Portsmouth and besides, we'll probably be one of the few clubs who could afford him outside the PL.
Big Bad Bob Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 Didn't he also score an absolute screamer in said game from about errr 6 inches as well - or is my mind playing up again....??? Oh yes, I bet Michael Owen absolutely beat the crap out of his knee in the dressing room afterwards...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 I'd take him, but feel he'll go up North. Blackpool seem to pick up a few rejects,and there was talk of him going on loan earlier in the year, so I reckon he'll end up there.
Turkish Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 I met David Nugent in Marbella; he called me a scummer. That said, he's actually alright and has done it at Champ level before so why not? Don't think he takes our rivalry too seriously anyway. The biggest problem would be his wages... then again, he wont' get another contract like the one he got a Portsmouth and besides, we'll probably be one of the few clubs who could afford him outside the PL. Did you tell him anymore his norf an sarf and you'll open him up like a tin of beans you mug.
Chez Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 The biggest problem would be his wages... then again, he wont' get another contract like the one he got a Portsmouth maybe not but he is available on a free rather than the £6m he came for, so that usually adds a few bob to your next wage deal. I'm not saying he's a £6m player now, but over three years that was effectively £40k a week on top of his £30k a week wages. You could take him on £30k a week for three years or spend £3m on a striker and then pay them £10k a week (what £3m striker will accept £10k a week I might add).
Crab Lungs Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 Did you tell him anymore his norf an sarf and you'll open him up like a tin of beans you mug. Sadly not, though he was one of the very few conversations I've had with Scouser that I actually enjoyed.
dronskisaint Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 maybe not but he is available on a free rather than the £6m he came for, so that usually adds a few bob to your next wage deal. I'm not saying he's a £6m player now, but over three years that was effectively £40k a week on top of his £30k a week wages. You could take him on £30k a week for three years or spend £3m on a striker and then pay them £10k a week (what £3m striker will accept £10k a week I might add). His record just doesn't justify his fee or his wages...58 league goals in 273 matches mostly in the Chamionship or L1 (or 2 with Bury?). I don't know what Ricky or Barny earn but I'm guessing less than 10k a week and their goals per game in the lower leagues is far superior. He's a 3-5k a week lower league journeyman who got lucky in the Bagpuss madness era...we can do far better. Also funnier to let them keep him in my opinion.....without taking in to account his wages he's cost them around £600k per goal so far!
stu0x Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 maybe not but he is available on a free rather than the £6m he came for, so that usually adds a few bob to your next wage deal. I'm not saying he's a £6m player now, but over three years that was effectively £40k a week on top of his £30k a week wages. You could take him on £30k a week for three years or spend £3m on a striker and then pay them £10k a week (what £3m striker will accept £10k a week I might add). True, but the flipside is you radically alter the wage structure within the club. After all, what do you think the likes of Lambert, Lallana, Fonte and Chamberlain would do if they found out Nugent (or whoever) was being paid three times as much as them? If there's one thing the Pompey saga has taught us, it's that the total financial impact of high wage earners at the club goes far beyond the simple cost of the wage itself, it's the inflation to the average wage that is the killer. Or, to give it its proper name, "the John Utaka effect".
Chez Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 His record just doesn't justify his fee or his wages...58 league goals in 273 matches mostly in the Chamionship or L1 (or 2 with Bury?). I don't know what Ricky or Barny earn but I'm guessing less than 10k a week and their goals per game in the lower leagues is far superior. He's a 3-5k a week lower league journeyman who got lucky in the Bagpuss madness era...we can do far better. Also funnier to let them keep him in my opinion.....without taking in to account his wages he's cost them around £600k per goal so far! I don't agree with that. He was a top player for Preston in the Championship scoring 34 league goals in 86 starts and worthy of his move to the Premiership. Once at the skates he had a shocker in a preseason game and ****flaps decided there and then that he had made a mistake signing him. ****flaps never played him leading to a massive loss of confidence. He hardly got a game in two years and when he finally got in the side it was playing out wide. The Premiership was perhaps just a little too early for him, but now having refound his form and confidence he is showing at Championship level that he is pretty decent. I'd take him like a shot. He won't come here so it matters not.
Chez Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 True, but the flipside is you radically alter the wage structure within the club. After all, what do you think the likes of Lambert, Lallana, Fonte and Chamberlain would do if they found out Nugent (or whoever) was being paid three times as much as them? If there's one thing the Pompey saga has taught us, it's that the total financial impact of high wage earners at the club goes far beyond the simple cost of the wage itself, it's the inflation to the average wage that is the killer. Or, to give it its proper name, "the John Utaka effect". Very good point. The other thing is if you sign a guy on £30k a week it is very difficult to offload him should it not work out - as the skates are finding.
Window Cleaner Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 Very good point. The other thing is if you sign a guy on £30k a week it is very difficult to offload him should it not work out - as the skates are finding. I think it will be a while before anyone gets 30K a week at Saints.
Big Bad Bob Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 I think it will be a while before anyone gets 30K a week at Saints. has anyone actually ever got £30k a week at Saints, last highest earner I heard was BT on £18.5k and that was just before we were relegated!!
Window Cleaner Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 has anyone actually ever got £30k a week at Saints, last highest earner I heard was BT on £18.5k and that was just before we were relegated!! You just can't say with all those weirdo contracts that the "non-execs" insisted on to placate Burley.I very much doubt it though. It could well be that certain players available on free transfers got enormous signing on fees which linked to their actual time with the club actually produced salaries in the region of 1.5 million £/annum.Euell,John and Idiakiez spring to mind.
Big Bad Bob Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 one? watched him closely then? he had a lot more than one good season and has played well in many games. not a great goalscorer but a pretty good player. he'll get a move to a top flight club though, merely because he's experienced and free. blackpool, wolves, west brom, brum, one of these. I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. As a striker his goals to games ratio is not *THAT* good (273 games 68 goals). I've not seen him play, why would I, his only sub appearance for England resulted in a goal he "stole" off of Defoe (or was it Owen). Another Dean Ashton for mine..
SNOWY Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 Apparently Lee Bowyer is being released by Birmingham at the end of the season. He'd be a good player in the championship.
Window Cleaner Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 Apparently Lee Bowyer is being released by Birmingham at the end of the season. He'd be a good player in the championship. Too old
Huntingdon Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 I'd take him, but feel he'll go up North. Blackpool seem to pick up a few rejects,and there was talk of him going on loan earlier in the year, so I reckon he'll end up there. My missus is from Preston, and all the talk in January was that Holloway wanted to snap up Nugent, but due to Nugent's Preston connections he told Blackpool he wasn't interested
Micky Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 (edited) I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. As a striker his goals to games ratio is not *THAT* good (273 games 68 goals). I've not seen him play, why would I, his only sub appearance for England resulted in a goal he "stole" off of Defoe (or was it Owen). Another Dean Ashton for mine.. Errr it was Defoe, and even I would have been embarrassed to claim this one - but thats strikers I guess...! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnHpg5Wz_Xk Edited 1 March, 2011 by Micky
ericb Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 I've not seen him play, why would I Then why the hell would you be able to proclaim so confidently that he's not that good. Football is about more than stats you know, there's some strickers who are absolutely fantastic at creating space for others or playing the ball/knocking it on/holding it up, of course their goals to games ratio isn't going to be great but what they create will be. Sorry if that comes across as harsh but it really does my head in all the internet geeks* who throw numbers around yet seem to either a: never go or b: have never played the game in their lives. *n.b. not necessarily saying you are since i have no idea about you beside this post but there's many like that online
Saint Fan CaM Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 He's a has-been...don't want him, don't need him. Let him wallow in the stench of Farton Park.
farawaysaint Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 He's a has-been...don't want him, don't need him. Let him wallow in the stench of Farton Park. He's 25 I think? He's got his best years ahead of him hopefully in a team that nurtures him, his pompey stay has been a joke.
StrangelyBrown Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 You missed Andy Sinton and Tony Dorigo from the Graham Taylor years
sandwichsaint Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 The sort of player who could do very well with the right 'nurturing'. Def not 20k a week better than what we have but if the price was right I wouldn't say no.
FMPR Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 I am still waiting to hear who Cifti has agreed a contract with after snubbing portsmouth. A young and upcoming talent....... not beyond the realms of possibility Fenerbache
Amesbury Saint Posted 1 March, 2011 Posted 1 March, 2011 how about an emergency loan? should nicely mess up Pompey as well!
saint_boysie Posted 2 March, 2011 Posted 2 March, 2011 no thanks, this could happen though.. http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_6787690,00.html Wouldn't say no..
rolosfc Posted 2 March, 2011 Posted 2 March, 2011 can you believe this guy played for England once. It's up there with Keith Curle, Andy Hinchcliffe, Carlton Palmer and Geoff Thomas. And Michael Ricketts. Wouldn't like to sign him, he is scoring a few goals this season but he is still a total tool and has a poor attitude.
Lighthouse Posted 2 March, 2011 Posted 2 March, 2011 I'd take him IF he'd take a sensible wage. Done pretty well in some sh*t teams IMO.
Junior Mullet Posted 3 March, 2011 Posted 3 March, 2011 Good player. Bpwyer is also a good player to the guy who mentioned him up the thread. I would sign them both up - better than what we currently have.
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