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I have no idea what this means. If someone can find some useful observation in these numbers, do enlighten us all... I take no responsibility for any mistakes in the calculations ;)

 

Total - FL1+JPT+FACP+LGCP (last season/this season)

- Played: 59/37

- Wins: 34/19

- Draws: 14/7

- Losses: 11/11

- Goals F: 112/64

- Goals A: 65/34

- Points/game: 1,97/1,73

- Goals F/game: 1,90/1,73

- Goals A/game: 1,10/0,92

 

Football League One (last season/this season)

- Played: 46/30

- Wins: 23/15

- Draws: 14/7

- Losses: 9/8

- Goals F: 85/54

- Goals A: 47/28

- Points/game: 1,80/1,73

- Goals F/game: 1,85/1,80

- Goals A/game: 1,02/0,93

 

Results spread - last season (this season):

1-1: 8 (2)

3-1: 8 (2)

1-0: 6 (2)

2-2: 5 (0)

2-0: 4 (5)

3-2: 4 (0)

1-2: 4 (1)

0-1: 3 (3)

0-0: 3 (4)

2-1: 3 (2)

1-3: 2 (0)

3-0: 2 (1)

4-1: 2 (3)

5-1: 2 (0)

1-4: 1 (0)

2-3: 1 (1)

5-0: 1 (0)

0-2: 0 (5)

4-0: 0 (3)

6-0: 0 (1)

4-4: 0 (1)

0-3: 0 (1)

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Played: 46/30

- Wins: 23/15

 

So, 16 games to go and we need 8 wins to equal last season's numbers. And we all feel that a 2 points per game average is what we should be aiming for.

 

For "The Others" OMG this is a disaster, we've already had 8 defeats this season, that is only ONE less than in ALL of last year, we are DOOMED

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Yes, 78% of us (up from 64% last year)

 

Nice... nice work.

 

Did you know that 87.5% of all stats are made up?

 

I don't think we do analysis/stats enough in this country. I hate American Football but they analyse the games in much more depth than we do 'football'. Instead we get no-nothing morons like Shearer telling us something we'd spotted about 10 mins before he did and Lineker taking the p1ss out of 'stats'.

 

I'd like genuine insight from students of the game, like that Jonathan Wilson (?? I think?) who writes for the Guardian and wrote 'inverting the pyramid' or James Richardson.

 

Bit of a tangental rant there... :)

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So we are scoring a bit less, but also conceding less.

 

Millwall were promoted with lots of tight 1-0 wins and a secure defence, if I remember rightly. That would be ok with me, much as we all like to see goals. A 1-0 win tonight would be good.

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If we win 1-0 tonight and play badly some people on this board will complain.

If we win 1-0 and play well some people on this board will complain.

If we win 4-0 and play badly some people on this board will complain.

If we win 4-0 and play well some people on this board will complain.

100% of the above is correct

Make of that what you will.

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Nice... nice work.

 

Did you know that 87.5% of all stats are made up?

 

I don't think we do analysis/stats enough in this country. I hate American Football but they analyse the games in much more depth than we do 'football'. Instead we get no-nothing morons like Shearer telling us something we'd spotted about 10 mins before he did and Lineker taking the p1ss out of 'stats'.

 

I'd like genuine insight from students of the game, like that Jonathan Wilson (?? I think?) who writes for the Guardian and wrote 'inverting the pyramid' or James Richardson.

 

Bit of a tangental rant there... :)

 

To be fair to Lee Dixon, he's at least trying to put a tactical perspective on some of the MotD and MotD2 output without dumbing it down or joking around about it.

 

The fact that the BBC thinks that 10 minutes of Lineker / Hansen / Shearer banter is more important than actually showing the games, and the fact that they think ANYONE gives a crap about the idiot messages Lizzie Greenwood-Hughes reads out on the Football League Show is an embarrassment to their sporting coverage - but it's the exact same over-familiar celebrity-based jocularity they have on all of their coverage, and I absolutely despise it as it just detracts from the actual sporting event, the feats of achievement and how they are achieved (including tactical analysis) which SHOULD be the focus.

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To be fair to Lee Dixon, he's at least trying to put a tactical perspective on some of the MotD and MotD2 output without dumbing it down or joking around about it.

 

The fact that the BBC thinks that 10 minutes of Lineker / Hansen / Shearer banter is more important than actually showing the games, and the fact that they think ANYONE gives a crap about the idiot messages Lizzie Greenwood-Hughes reads out on the Football League Show is an embarrassment to their sporting coverage - but it's the exact same over-familiar celebrity-based jocularity they have on all of their coverage, and I absolutely despise it as it just detracts from the actual sporting event, the feats of achievement and how they are achieved (including tactical analysis) which SHOULD be the focus.

 

I do like Dixon, he's alright.... even if he does look like Tintin.

 

and ANOTHER thing... When Lawro/Shearer will say something like 'it was a penalty but it was a bit harsh for the ref to send him off/book him' like there is ANY room for the Ref to use his judgement on issues of black/white.

 

They're such dicks, I don't even mind Lineker much either he'd be alright with some decent pundits instead of those idiots he has to work across from currently.

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If we win 1-0 tonight and play badly some people on this board will complain.

If we win 1-0 and play well some people on this board will complain.

If we win 4-0 and play badly some people on this board will complain.

If we win 4-0 and play well some people on this board will complain.

100% of the above is correct

Make of that what you will.

 

What ever happens tonight some people on this board will complain about others complaining (actually it looks like that has already happened).

 

There is also a 99% chance that the post match thread will turn into another self righteous rant at Alpine from all those who think he isn't allowed an opinion (no matter how mad it maybe).

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3 and the 1 game where Adkins was appointed but was not "in charge". I really didn't get that comment (not yours, Jonnyboys).

 

Nope Pardew 1 league defeat Plymouth

Wilkins 3 league defeats Rochdale,Swindon,MK Dons

Adkins 4 league defeats Carlisle,Huddersfield,Brentford,Tranmere,

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To be fair to Lee Dixon, he's at least trying to put a tactical perspective on some of the MotD and MotD2 output without dumbing it down or joking around about it.

 

The fact that the BBC thinks that 10 minutes of Lineker / Hansen / Shearer banter is more important than actually showing the games, and the fact that they think ANYONE gives a crap about the idiot messages Lizzie Greenwood-Hughes reads out on the Football League Show is an embarrassment to their sporting coverage - but it's the exact same over-familiar celebrity-based jocularity they have on all of their coverage, and I absolutely despise it as it just detracts from the actual sporting event, the feats of achievement and how they are achieved (including tactical analysis) which SHOULD be the focus.

 

LOL.. to be fair though the amount of coverage they show is probably linked to their contract in terms of minutes etc... so the BeeB need these morons to talk sheidt for half the program to pad it out and fill the slot

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I have added a column for Adkins results disregarding the 2W/1D/5L-record he inherited...

 

[b]Total - FL1+JPT+FACP+LGCP (last season/this season/Adkins)[/b]			
Played	59	40	32
Wins	34	21	19
Draws	14	7	6
Losses	11	12	7
F	112	69	62
A	65	35	26
Pts/g	1,97	1,75	1,97
F/g	1,90	1,73	1,94
A/g	1,10	0,88	0,81
		
[b]FL1 (last season/this season/Adkins)[/b]			
Played	46	33	28
Wins	23	17	16
Draws	14	7	6
Losses	9	9	6
F	85	59	54
A	47	29	24
Pts/g	1,80	1,76	[b]1,93[/b]
F/g	1,85	1,79	[b]1,93[/b]
A/g	1,02	0,88	[b]0,86[/b]

 

Key points for me are all in the FL1-stats:

    Adkins is very close to two points per game

    We also very nearly average two goals per game which is an improvement

    Statistically we have a really solid defense

    We seem a bit more shaky and inconsistent than the stats signal - huge victories (Oldham etc.) and clueless defeats...

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Adkins now averages 2 points/game in League One.

 

Total - FL1+JPT+FACP+LGCP (last season/this season/Adkins)			
Played	59	42	34
Wins	34	23	21
Draws	14	7	6
Losses	11	12	7
F	112	74	67
A	65	36	27
Pts/g	1,97	1,81	2,03
F/g	1,90	1,76	1,97
A/g	1,10	0,86	0,79
		
FL1 (last season/this season/Adkins)			
Played	46	35	30
Wins	23	19	18
Draws	14	7	6
Losses	9	9	6
F	85	64	59
A	47	30	25
Pts/g	1,80	1,83	2,00
F/g	1,85	1,83	1,97
A/g	1,02	0,86	0,83

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	Played	Wins	Draws	Losses	F	A	Pts/g	F (av.)	A (av.)
Total	52	31	8	13	93	43	1,94	1,79	0,83
FL1	45	27	8	10	83	37	1,98	1,84	0,82
LGCP	2	1	0	1	2	1	1,50	1,00	0,50
FACP	4	3	0	1	8	2	2,25	2,00	0,50
JPT	1	0	0	1	0	3	0,00	0,00	3,00
NA(T)	44	29	7	8	86	34	2,14	1,95	0,77
NA(FL1)	40	26	7	7	78	32	2,13	1,95	0,80

 

Adkins with a staggering 2,13 points/game in his 40 FL1 games... amazing!

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What does it all mean, you say? I don't know, you tell me...

 

 

 

	Played	Wins	Draws	Losses	F	A	Pts/g	F (av.)	A (av.)
Total	31	19	5	7	61	34	2,00	1,97	1,10
FLC	26	15	5	6	50	28	1,92	1,92	1,08
LGCP	4	3	0	1	9	5	2,25	2,25	1,25
FACP	1	1	0	0	2	1	3,00	2,00	1,00

 

Total	09/10	10/11	11/12
Played	59	53	31
Wins	34	32	19
Draws	14	8	5
Losses	11	13	7
F	112	96	61
A	65	44	34
Pts/g	1,97	1,96	2,00
F/g	1,90	1,81	1,97
A/g	1,10	0,83	1,10
		
League	09/10	10/11	11/12
Played	46	46	26
Wins	23	28	15
Draws	14	8	5
Losses	9	10	6
F	85	86	50
A	47	38	28
Pts/g	1,80	2,00	1,92
F/g	1,85	1,87	1,92
A/g	1,02	0,83	1,08

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From OP:

 

Football League One (last season/this season)

- Played: 46/30

- Wins: 23/15

- Draws: 14/7

- Losses: 9/8

- Goals F: 85/54

- Goals A: 47/28

- Points/game: 1,80/1,73

- Goals F/game: 1,85/1,80

- Goals A/game: 1,02/0,93

 

I don't understand this. We've only played 26 league games this season.

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What does it all mean, you say? I don't know, you tell me...

 

 

 

	Played	Wins	Draws	Losses	F	A	Pts/g	F (av.)	A (av.)
Total	31	19	5	7	61	34	2,00	1,97	1,10
FLC	26	15	5	6	50	28	1,92	1,92	1,08
LGCP	4	3	0	1	9	5	2,25	2,25	1,25
FACP	1	1	0	0	2	1	3,00	2,00	1,00

 

Total	09/10	10/11	11/12
Played	59	53	31
Wins	34	32	19
Draws	14	8	5
Losses	11	13	7
F	112	96	61
A	65	44	34
Pts/g	1,97	1,96	2,00
F/g	1,90	1,81	1,97
A/g	1,10	0,83	1,10
		
League	09/10	10/11	11/12
Played	46	46	26
Wins	23	28	15
Draws	14	8	5
Losses	9	10	6
F	85	86	50
A	47	38	28
Pts/g	1,80	2,00	1,92
F/g	1,85	1,87	1,92
A/g	1,02	0,83	1,08

 

 

We're scoring roughly the same number of goals per game but this seems to say to me that the defence is not quite as solid as last season (probably because it's against better players) and is probably a contributing factor as to why we haven't got quite such a good win rate and Pts/g. Obviously this is all relative as we are still up there with the best in the league this year! Makes you wonder though if the call for a new striker is as urgent as the cover for Fonte? Interesting data all the same.

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Total	09/10	10/11	11/12
Played	59	53	43
Wins	34	32	24
Draws	14	8	10
Losses	11	13	9
F	112	96	77
A	65	44	40
Pts/g	1,97	1,96	1,91
F/g	1,90	1,81	1,79
A/g	1,10	0,83	0,93
		
League	09/10	10/11	11/12
Played	46	46	36
Wins	23	28	20
Draws	14	8	9
Losses	9	10	7
F	85	86	65
A	47	38	33
Pts/g	1,80	2,00	[b]1,92[/b]
F/g	1,85	1,87	1,81
A/g	1,02	0,83	0,92

 

Going by our average this far, we could expect in the vicinity of 19 points for the remainder of the season...

 

Of course statistics means f-all if we go and lose half of our remaining games ;)

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3 wins and a defeat later, all is looking good. We need 5 draws and a loss to mirror our results two seasons ago, but let's try to aim slightly higher...

 

League	09/10	10/11	11/12
Played	46	46	40
Wins	23	28	23
Draws	14	8	9
Losses	9	10	8
F	85	86	72
A	47	38	38
Pts/g	1,80	2,00	1,95
F/g	1,85	1,87	1,80
A/g	1,02	0,83	0,95

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Appearances for Saints this season across all competitions - we played a total of 53 games (taken from http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/Appearances/0,,10280~201110280,00.html):

 

	        FLC		CUPS		TOTAL	
Name	        Start	Sub	Start	Sub	Start	Sub
Kelvin Davis	45	0	0	0	45	0
Richard Lambert	42	0	2	4	44	4
Adam Lallana	41	0	3	2	44	2
Jose Fonte	42	0	1	1	43	1
Jack Cork	39	7	3	0	42	7
Jos Hooiveld	39	0	2	0	41	0
Guly Do Prado	36	6	3	1	39	7
Daniel Fox	37	4	2	0	39	4
F. Richardson	33	1	3	0	36	1
Dean Hammond	31	12	3	2	34	14
M. Schneiderlin	29	13	5	0	34	13
Richard Chaplow	17	8	3	0	20	8
David Connolly	17	9	0	0	17	9
Dan Harding	12	8	5	0	17	8
Aaron Martin	7	3	7	0	14	3
D. Butterfield	9	1	3	0	12	1
Billy Sharp	11	4	0	0	11	4
Steve De Ridder	5	27	5	0	10	27
Bart Bialkowski	1	0	7	0	8	0
Daniel Seaborne	4	0	2	0	6	0
Jason Puncheon	4	4	1	0	5	4
Tadanari Lee	4	3	1	1	5	4
Lee Holmes	0	6	4	1	4	7
Ben Reeves	0	3	3	2	3	5
Jonathan Forte	0	1	3	1	3	2
Ryan Dickson	0	0	2	0	2	0
J. Ward-Prowse	0	0	2	0	2	0
Lee Barnard	0	6	1	2	1	8
Ryan Doble	0	0	1	0	1	0
Yago Falque	1	0	0	0	1	0
Sam Hoskins	0	0	0	2	0	2
Luke Shaw	0	0	0	1	0	1
Jack Stephens	0	0	0	1	0	1

 

Amazing that Schteeve was used as a sub 27 times this season, that Lambo was involved in 48 of 53 games, that Cork was involved in 49 of 53 games, that Hooiveld managed 41 starts, that Aaron Martin got 14 starts, and that Danny Butterfield got 12 starts with a good handful of these coming in the exciting run in...

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