Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 ...is that Brighton have a better side. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 Brighton have a better manager, simple as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 Ah, but we have a better CEO......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 Brighton have a better manager, simple as. If only it was that simple... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 8 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffnut Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 Brighton know how to play consistently well and score goals, Saints ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Stimp Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 No they don't, stop attention seeking. HTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 22 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 22 February, 2011 No they don't, stop attention seeking. HTH. Table says differently. Stop giving me attention. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 8 points. 10 points. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 As has been said elsewhere, Brighton have a better manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 10 points now or 20% more points than us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 Brighton have nicer legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 Consistency of performance. They either win well or grind out results. We do a bit of both but throw in a few stinkers too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 Sorry to say that Brighton do not have a BETTER squad. They may have a more balanced, committed, hungry, fit, well-coached side for sure. What that sadly says is that Adkins and his coaching team are not making an impression on the players. Something is not working. Someone needs to sort it out - I hope that man is Adkins because if it has to be NC we might be seeing a new Manager prematurely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammon cheeks Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 At this moment in time Brighton have a manager that is getting the best out of a average team, where adkins is not getting the best out of a supposedly better team............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 Adkins is blessed with arguably the best squad in this league,many would dream having the players we have to call upon. Adkins is not fulfilling his remit. We are underperforming and not making progress,especially in the playing style,the style that so many championed that Adkins' sides play. I'm sure the stat man will be out in a mo,but you are easily pleased if you are happy with the dross being served up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieDog Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 How many of those Brighton players would you want in our team? - and who would they replace? As long as we end up in the top 2 I don't give a rats arse about Brighton. I know which team I would back in the Championship next year (well, I'd back Saints over Brighton any time and any league, but that's just blind faith...lol). I don't believe they have a better manager either. Out of curiosity, any idea how the table would look if you just took the results since Adkins became Manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 Manager and squad. BHA signing Craig Noone showed more ambition than Saints' signing Forte and taking N'Guessen on loan. Result was BHA are stronger after the window while Saints are same old same old. Adkins going back to his old club for Forte smacked too much of Burley and his tendency to sign players he'd managed before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 Consistency of performance. They either win well or grind out results. We do a bit of both but throw in a few stinkers too. We play in fits and starts. 4 wins in a row followed by stinking results, a 6-0 followed by a 0-0 or a loss etc. I hate to say it, but its the kind of form that usually separates automatic promotion teams and play off teams. I honestly thought we'd take the **** in this league this year, we couldn't really have a better opportunity. I cannot understand our inconsistency at all. Let's hope we can go on a real run in the final few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaint4ever Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 I know the answer to our problems! We follow southampton fc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 Table says differently. Stop giving me attention. HTH It's the table in May that matters, but it's certainly Brighton's championship to lose and I still think they'll hit a sticky patch sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 Blue stripes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 Manager and squad. BHA signing Craig Noone showed more ambition than Saints' signing Forte and taking N'Guessen on loan. Result was BHA are stronger after the window while Saints are same old same old. Adkins going back to his old club for Forte smacked too much of Burley and his tendency to sign players he'd managed before. HOw can you judge them after playing twenty minutes and 140 minutes of football for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 That Brighton are a lot more consistent, probably have more desire and definately had a better pre-season/summer than Saints! Oh and that stability on the pitch, keeping a manager and building a team from one season to the next are all keys to success! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 Adkins is blessed with arguably the best squad in this league,many would dream having the players we have to call upon. Adkins is not fulfilling his remit. We are underperforming and not making progress,especially in the playing style,the style that so many championed that Adkins' sides play. I'm sure the stat man will be out in a mo,but you are easily pleased if you are happy with the dross being served up. we have a good squad but I doubt other teams "dream" about having our players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 Manager and squad. BHA signing Craig Noone showed more ambition than Saints' signing Forte and taking N'Guessen on loan. Result was BHA are stronger after the window while Saints are same old same old. Adkins going back to his old club for Forte smacked too much of Burley and his tendency to sign players he'd managed before. Too true. Hopeless loans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 "If Brighton can keep up with us" Seems like we're the ones who need to keep up with them Adkins. Brighton are a far better team with better manager than Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 Aren't we forgetting the rubbish start that we had. Since NA took over we have matched them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whizzpop Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 Should have got Calderon instead of Butterfield HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 It's consistency really, and unfortunately that is something that I have never experienced with Saints! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkenSaint Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 Another 2 points dropped, it annoys me sooo much with the team we have we should beating teams like this week in week out but we cant so there is defo something wrong somewhere. Yes we went on a good winning streak scoring a sh!t load of goals but at the end of the season that counts to nothing if we dont go up. I wouldnt count on winning the promotion playoffs either, it only takes one silly tackle to lose the game. A win tonight with Bournemouth and Huddersfield drawing would of of been a real bonus and with us having games in hand isnt a good sign, we'll have to play alot of games very close together. For me Hammond needed to be dropped i still think Chappers and Morgan is our best CM partnership i also think we should play Barnard instead of Guly for away games, Guly does seem play alot better when we're at home. Going back to what the OP is saying, Brighton do have a good side who can play together whatever way they are being told by the manager, they might change tactics depending who they are playing while NA always wants to play this passing style which in my view looks nice but does not always work, id rather see us win by playing a scappy game than seeing us drew or lose but playing really nice football. The passing type of game works well at most premier grounds because they are all nice playing surfaces for that type of game the lower leagues (apart from a few selected grounds ie old prem clubs) have crappy surfaces and smaller pitches so NA needs to start changing tactics depending who we play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire&skill Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 At this moment in time Brighton have a manager that is getting the best out of a average team, where adkins is not getting the best out of a supposedly better team............ A [paraphrased] quote from Our Lord Gus, early in the season - 'If I couldn't get Southampton promoted, I'd give my salary back' 'Average' team? Ho - and indeed - ho. GOSBTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire&skill Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 "If Brighton can keep up with us" Seems like we're the ones who need to keep up with them Adkins. Brighton are a far better team with better manager than Saints. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 Should have got Calderon instead of Butterfield HTH You should know that had he come to us with his track record of injury he would not have played a game for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 I can't wait to revisit this thread in May, when I sincerely believe a lot of the bed-wetters and wrist-slitters on here will be shame-faced and embarrassed at their ability to wave the white flag in February. Still, if it comes to it, at least we can count on your support at the play off final.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint sfc Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 I'm from Brighton. That's what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 We did have a poor start to the season, and we maybe up with them since the first 10 games, but Brighton are smashing everyone at the moment and looking very comfortable and I cannot see them slipping up. Still think 2nd is ours for the taken and do think on this ocassion we will take it with both hands on the run in. The big turning point will be us winning at Dean Court! IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 I think the big difference is expectation, Brighton are perennial inhabitants of this league and rock up to their games against teams who just see them as Brighton. We are seen as Billy Big Bo//ocks, lots of money, big shiney stadium, good players, we are the Manchester United (for want of a better analogy) of this league: the team to beat. When you look at the Bournemouth fans celebrations at Burton Albion when they were promoted last season all they could sing about was coming to SMS. Look at the Notts County fans after the 0-0 the other week, at the final whistle you would have thought that they had won. Every game we play in is viewed by the opposition as a cup tie against a premiership side, if not the final. As for NA he is not a bad coach by any stretch of the imagination, when you look at what he did at Scunny on more than one occasion without the means both in finance and playing staff as he has here He just has to work out how to get the players to unlock these pumped up teams early on in a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 Brighton have a better manager, simple as. That's a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 Whatever they have got I would like some of it, they are winning this league by a country mile - well done to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 About 65 miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Red Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 Sure to get lambasted for this but I still reckon we have a chance to win the league. Brighton have to slip up sometime - It's happened before. If we can get another winning run on the go at the same time then it's entirely possible. Thought I'd post this in hope that come May I can say I told you so... No-one will remember if it doesn't happen... No-one knows me anyway. Livin' the dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 The second they think they've got it in the bag they'll start losing games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 I think the big difference is expectation, Brighton are perennial inhabitants of this league and rock up to their games against teams who just see them as Brighton. Except the ones who bother to look at the league table before kick off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 Sure to get lambasted for this but I still reckon we have a chance to win the league. Brighton have to slip up sometime - It's happened before. If we can get another winning run on the go at the same time then it's entirely possible. Thought I'd post this in hope that come May I can say I told you so... No-one will remember if it doesn't happen... No-one knows me anyway. Livin' the dream. No way would I want to lambast you, but Brighton are currently 10 points ahead of us, we never managed to make up the -10 points last season, therefore it is highly unlikely that we are now going to do it over the course of the last quarter. If you are a betting man, I would advise you to keep your money in your pocket as opposed to going on your hunch - you will lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 ...we will be in higher division in 3 years time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Red Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 No way would I want to lambast you, but Brighton are currently 10 points ahead of us, we never managed to make up the -10 points last season, therefore it is highly unlikely that we are now going to do it over the course of the last quarter. If you are a betting man, I would advise you to keep your money in your pocket as opposed to going on your hunch - you will lose. I did say 'we have a chance' rather than 'I think we will' (which I accept is gutless). Just an optimist I guess. Just checked the odds - they aren't great. Only 3-1. I'll wait til its 5-1 then blow my savings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 No way would I want to lambast you, but Brighton are currently 10 points ahead of us, we never managed to make up the -10 points last season, therefore it is highly unlikely that we are now going to do it over the course of the last quarter. If you are a betting man, I would advise you to keep your money in your pocket as opposed to going on your hunch - you will lose. don't panic..more than 1/3 of a season left, not a 1/4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 22 February, 2011 Share Posted 22 February, 2011 ...we will be in higher division in 3 years time I would wager that we will both be in The Championship in 3 years time. Brighton will have consolidated with their new ground providing them with a lift. If we go up this season, then I think we will take more than 3 years to make the next jump as i think the Championship and a number of yo-yo teams with big parachute payments will make it a massive challenge to get in to the top flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 promoted sides are 5th, 6th and 11th - only Norwich looked anything special - who knows but quick promotions not impossible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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