Matthew Le Tissier Posted 21 February, 2011 Posted 21 February, 2011 A wise man once said " how many shelves are in your shed"
Thedelldays Posted 21 February, 2011 Posted 21 February, 2011 To be fair I totally agree with him, this forum is full of dickheads who think they know it all but actually haven't got a clue what they are talking about. Also I think the point that he doesn't hold back is untrue as I'm Sure what he said about some forum users was put very politely. We all know you are part of the old boys clique
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 21 February, 2011 Posted 21 February, 2011 Your pathetic. You keep referring to the term "we" Is it like your little gang? Or maybe as you spend every living moment on here "we" is your Internet make believe family? Now stop biting like a 6 year old and move on with your life. Good luck
Roger Posted 21 February, 2011 Posted 21 February, 2011 At least youre honest................. Manji, I didn't say the cos he's crap bit. Manji has pit that in. U can't do that u piece of dirt. U need a life mate u really do
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 22 February, 2011 Posted 22 February, 2011 I think Minj was one of the corrys that the big man was referring to.
SFC Forever Posted 22 February, 2011 Posted 22 February, 2011 For my pennyworth, I find it impossible to comment on something that I have not seen, accurately, and with sensible comment as a response. Would be good to see the article.
NickG Posted 22 February, 2011 Posted 22 February, 2011 For my pennyworth, I find it impossible to comment on something that I have not seen, accurately, and with sensible comment as a response. Would be good to see the article. thinking like that will cut posts on this forum by 90%!
um pahars Posted 22 February, 2011 Posted 22 February, 2011 He tells us there has been only one official FA cup winning team get-together. Well, how many "official" ones does he need? Have you read the article??? Because if you have then I think you have taken it totally out of context. It wasn't a criticism of anyone, nor was it a desperate plea to satisfy his and others ego in demanding another. Instead he was merely stating how it would have been nice to get them all together on the evening, but that it wasn't possible. Strange how people comment on things they haven't read or twist things from how they were intended.
GenevaSaint Posted 22 February, 2011 Posted 22 February, 2011 (edited) To be fair I totally agree with him, this forum is full of dickheads who think they know it all but actually haven't got a clue what they are talking about. Also I think the point that he doesn't hold back is untrue as I'm Sure what he said about some forum users was put very politely. To be fair I think you're a **** head as well who knows feck all as well. What does the "big man" (you sycophantic ****) actually know. Diddly squat, only what the inner circle of EX players tell him. Edited 22 February, 2011 by GenevaSaint
um pahars Posted 22 February, 2011 Posted 22 February, 2011 Would be good to see the article. The article is split in to two bits. The first deals with the weekend celebrations, whilst the second deals with his relationship with Cortese. If the mods have no problem ref copyright etc, then I would be happy to re-type out the second bit.
Minty Posted 22 February, 2011 Posted 22 February, 2011 thinking like that will cut posts on this forum by 90%! We live in hope...! How the current and ex-players staff behave is up to them, and I hope they can resolve their issues... it's just a real shame that there seem to be such vicious and entrenched views amongst some fans. Life's too short as it is, without going through it with any amount of bitterness attached.
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 22 February, 2011 Posted 22 February, 2011 Have you read the article??? Because if you have then I think you have taken it totally out of context. It wasn't a criticism of anyone, nor was it a desperate plea to satisfy his and others ego in demanding another. Instead he was merely stating how it would have been nice to get them all together on the evening, but that it wasn't possible. Strange how people comment on things they haven't read or twist things from how they were intended. Actually I read the entire thing and took out of it the bits that to me show LM's view of himself. It's your opinion that it was twisted or out of context, but there are many others I'm sure who think that what he says and how often he says it is revealing of how important he still thinks he is. As I said, I've always thought well of him, but he really is beginning to sound as if he constantly needs his ego stroked, and it's just time he let it go a bit. He was sucessful for a while, and I give him a lot of credit for it, but he should quieten down and cease some of what looks like attention-seeking. Building bridges and offering olive branches or however he sees it - why on earth should NC really care about that? This "I'm always available - they can give me a ring" stuff (not intended to be a verbatim quote but an approximation) is not as quite as benign a remark as he is trying to make it appear. If I were NC or a new manager or whatever, I'd feel somewhat patronised at the very least.
um pahars Posted 22 February, 2011 Posted 22 February, 2011 (edited) Actually I read the entire thing and took out of it the bits that to me show LM's view of himself. It's your opinion that it was twisted or out of context, but there are many others I'm sure who think that what he says and how often he says it is revealing of how important he still thinks he is. And your opinion/interpretation is as valid as anyone elses. That said, I do find it hard to jump from a passing comment on how he wished more of the 76 team could have made it (for the benefit of all of those in attendance) to "how many official get togethers does he want?". The fact that a couple already had other commitments was referred to on the night. I certainly didn't read it as any dig at the Club, past or current, for not organising one, nor did I see it as fishing for more adulation. Interesting how different people can interpret the same text in different ways. PS Although you mentioned it wasn't intended to be a verbatim quote, there is no mention of anyone giving him a ring (and I have to say that I think your interpretation is somewhat out of context as well). Edited 22 February, 2011 by um pahars
Dellman Posted 22 February, 2011 Posted 22 February, 2011 Quote: This "I'm always available - they can give me a ring" stuff (not intended to be a verbatim quote but an approximation) is not as quite as benign a remark as he is trying to make it appear. If I were NC or a new manager or whatever, I'd feel somewhat patronised at the very least. Exactly! Look what a helluva mess we were in when he was around with all those numbskulls that ruined us
um pahars Posted 22 February, 2011 Posted 22 February, 2011 Quote: This "I'm always available - they can give me a ring" stuff (not intended to be a verbatim quote but an approximation) is not as quite as benign a remark as he is trying to make it appear. If I were NC or a new manager or whatever, I'd feel somewhat patronised at the very least. Exactly! Look what a helluva mess we were in when he was around with all those numbskulls that ruined us As mentioned above, nowhere in the article does it state "they can give me a ring". Additionally, if you had read it in the context of the paragraphs that go before and after it, then perhaps you might not be coming to the conclusion you have above. Misquoting and taking things out of context don't really bring anything to the party.
MarkSFC Posted 22 February, 2011 Posted 22 February, 2011 As mentioned above, nowhere in the article does it state "they can give me a ring". Additionally, if you had read it in the context of the paragraphs that go before and after it, then perhaps you might not be coming to the conclusion you have above. Misquoting and taking things out of context don't really bring anything to the party. correct but it does say "if ever he wants a conversation I will be available" (in regard to NC) and in regard to new managers he says "if ever they want a cup of tea and a chat they know where I am".
um pahars Posted 22 February, 2011 Posted 22 February, 2011 and in regard to new managers he says "if ever they want a cup of tea and a chat they know where I am". Indeed, and on the point of the new managers, I think if you take it in the context of writing a personal note to a new manager welcoming them to the area & letting them know what a terrific club they have joined and then wishing them well from a distance, and only wanting what is best for the club, then I think it takes on a slightly different emphasis (certainly not the arrogant & dismissive tone that some are intrepreting it as). I'm sure some might say what is this old dinosaur doing writing to our new managers and sticking his beak in, but I personally think it is quite a nice touch (even if there is a dash of ego involved in there somewhere).
Frank's cousin Posted 22 February, 2011 Posted 22 February, 2011 We live in hope...! How the current and ex-players staff behave is up to them, and I hope they can resolve their issues... it's just a real shame that there seem to be such vicious and entrenched views amongst some fans. Life's too short as it is, without going through it with any amount of bitterness attached. TBF MInty I think part of the problem with teh fan divide is that we were in such a crap position before NC and ML came to us, that many (and me included to some extent) dont want more divisive stuff that at best, simply makes some fans chose, at worst drives the current regime away? I know thats an extreme view, but there is a chnace that if the media through their twisting, ex players and mangers through their perhaps misguided media naiviety end up driving NC away... to be left with what? Possibilty of the said explayers trining desperately to raise cash from chancers who go with a leaveraged buy out? I know thats possibly an element of paranoia, but it would explain why some feel that the 'quotes' in the media that are often digs at the regime are not welcomed by all? Its not bitterness on the fan sid, just perhaps a concern that teh more this plays out in the media, it chips away at NCs desire to continue...especially in light of Marcus' sad death last year. Therefore you get some, me included that just wish those that have the best interests of teh club at heart would emonstrate it by avoiding media comment that can be mis quoted, mis directed etc... because surely they msut know whjat teh media is like, and therefore with the clubs best interests at heart would avoid it? BUt as we saw with MLT and FB, they seemed to possitively gloat at the opportunity to take the proverbial out of NC on LIve TV... opinions or not, given how well things are going on the pitch, does this really demonstrate that they have the clubs best interests at heart...or their own?
Frank's cousin Posted 22 February, 2011 Posted 22 February, 2011 LOL... you sychophants - do they give you a reacharound?
Deppo Posted 22 February, 2011 Posted 22 February, 2011 Who is giving out reacharounds? Cortese or McMenemy? This might help me decide which side of the fence to sit on.
benjii Posted 22 February, 2011 Posted 22 February, 2011 If anyone wants a cup of tea, a chat, and a ferocious reacharound you know where I am.
Deppo Posted 22 February, 2011 Posted 22 February, 2011 If anyone wants a cup of tea, a chat, and a ferocious reacharound you know where I am. You've taken that McMenemy quote entirely out of context.
saintjay77 Posted 22 February, 2011 Posted 22 February, 2011 I'm surprised this is still going. I thought the initial reaction was based on what people thought was said when in reality he was more complimentary and would rather things get sorted out. If he has a problem with what some people say on here then there is nothing stopping him signing up and confronting them or speaking to the admin about anything that might be liable. I'm sure being in the public eye for so long he must be used to some criticism so should be able to get over it. I personally don't think some of the ex players and managers have been too helpful if the previous reports are to be believed but I don't think NC has made 100% the correct decisions with public relations either. Given time and a march up the league I'm sure the petty squabbles that keep distracting us all will get less and less and we can all enjoy some new history being made.
MarkSFC Posted 22 February, 2011 Posted 22 February, 2011 Indeed, and on the point of the new managers, I think if you take it in the context of writing a personal note to a new manager welcoming them to the area & letting them know what a terrific club they have joined and then wishing them well from a distance, and only wanting what is best for the club, then I think it takes on a slightly different emphasis (certainly not the arrogant & dismissive tone that some are intrepreting it as). I'm sure some might say what is this old dinosaur doing writing to our new managers and sticking his beak in, but I personally think it is quite a nice touch (even if there is a dash of ego involved in there somewhere). I think both quotes are quite arrogant and egotistical when "read". East to interpret either way. If it was a video interview it would be far easier to determine intent. Overall though I think the "great Saints Manager" should just keep quiet for a while, at least on all things Saints, well at least anything that can be taken out of context. Hard though I suppose when hes paid (I assume) for his piece in The Echo.
scotty Posted 22 February, 2011 Posted 22 February, 2011 You've taken that McMenemy quote entirely out of context. lofl
simo Posted 22 February, 2011 Posted 22 February, 2011 And still the us v's you battle rumble's on ! It makes me laugh how some people are getting so excited lol !
Frank's cousin Posted 22 February, 2011 Posted 22 February, 2011 rather things get sorted out. Thing is it would need to be on his terms... and NC is currently the king of the castle... so sadly unlikely to happen. If LM wants to be 'welcomed' back into the fold, I cant see that happenig without a period of silence in the press - demo his loyalty to Don Cortese and the 'family' first. Sure its stupid and silly and all ******, but because I can understand WHY NC has gone for this particular approach (including all the negatives that go with it), and seeing that it seems to be working, then I just wish LM et al would see that its working, even if they dont agree with the style or approach.....
Wade Garrett Posted 22 February, 2011 Posted 22 February, 2011 This really isn't very important. Lawrie Mac was our finest manager, and had our finest team. Cortese was a very big part in us not going under, and under his Chairmanship we seem to have a decent future. I am grateful to them both.
Colinjb Posted 22 February, 2011 Posted 22 February, 2011 This really isn't very important. Lawrie Mac was our finest manager, and had our finest team. Cortese was a very big part in us not going under, and under his Chairmanship we seem to have a decent future. I am grateful to them both. As I said in my recent blog. If a winner had to be chosen between the two, we all lose.
up and away Posted 23 February, 2011 Posted 23 February, 2011 correct but it does say "if ever he wants a conversation I will be available" (in regard to NC) and in regard to new managers he says "if ever they want a cup of tea and a chat they know where I am". If this is Lawries way of offering an olive branch, I am all for it. The bit that intrigues me is why they would they need any input from Lawrie? Then if that conversation or cup of tea never materialises, are we back to the previous charm offensive that reaped such reward? Happy to give all sides the benefit of any doubt and see what develops.
Mutt Le Tiss Posted 23 February, 2011 Posted 23 February, 2011 L Mac on talksport now with gray and keys
Saint Charlie Posted 23 February, 2011 Posted 23 February, 2011 L Mac on talksport now with gray and keys Saying what?
Badger Posted 23 February, 2011 Posted 23 February, 2011 As I said in my recent blog. If a winner had to be chosen between the two, we all lose. Agree. As David Mellor used to say on 606 "...a very good point,and eloquently put..".
Badger Posted 23 February, 2011 Posted 23 February, 2011 L Mac on talksport now with gray and keys What's LM's take on 'wimmin' linespersons ?
Mutt Le Tiss Posted 23 February, 2011 Posted 23 February, 2011 Saying what? Was talking up South Coast Football, quite well timed as i had been thinking that gray and keys only ever bang on about Prem teams, then Lawrie came on to chat about the Saints.
Deppo Posted 23 February, 2011 Posted 23 February, 2011 (edited) This isn't verbatim, but pretty close: "Hello Lawrie. Exciting times down on the South Coast these days. Do you go and watch Southampton?" "Yes, I go to every game. I buy my tickets." "You pay for your tickets?! You're a legend! You shouldn't have to buy your own tickets." "Don't go there..." Then he went on to be very interesting and funny. Shame he started off by "going there". Very clever, Lorry. Edited 23 February, 2011 by Deppo
Colinjb Posted 23 February, 2011 Posted 23 February, 2011 He talked up Chamberlain a fair bit. http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/richard-keys-and-andy-gray/blog/2011-02-23/mcmenemy-chamberlain-fast-walcott-and-bigger-built
MarkSFC Posted 23 February, 2011 Posted 23 February, 2011 He really does not know when to let it go does he. Very sad.
manji Posted 23 February, 2011 Posted 23 February, 2011 He really does not know when to let it go does he. Very sad. The beginning was obviously teed up for him. He cant let it go can he. So much for burying the hatchet....................
Gemmel Posted 23 February, 2011 Posted 23 February, 2011 He cant let it go can he. So much for burying the hatchet.................... Oh the irony
aintforever Posted 23 February, 2011 Posted 23 February, 2011 He talked up Chamberlain a fair bit. http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/richard-keys-and-andy-gray/blog/2011-02-23/mcmenemy-chamberlain-fast-walcott-and-bigger-built Great interview. Media exposure like that can only add value to the SFC brand. It's great how SFC is working with past legends, embracing our history to promote the club.
The Majestic Channon Posted 23 February, 2011 Posted 23 February, 2011 The beginning was obviously teed up for him. He cant let it go can he. So much for burying the hatchet.................... Says ' manj' , so 'manj' what about the rest of the interview eh ' manj' ? or are you going to concentrate on Lawries 20 second brutal slagging of cortese ?
MarkSFC Posted 23 February, 2011 Posted 23 February, 2011 The beginning was obviously teed up for him. He cant let it go can he. So much for burying the hatchet.................... exactly....even chuckled as he spoke about having to pay.
The Majestic Channon Posted 23 February, 2011 Posted 23 February, 2011 exactly....even chuckled as he spoke about having to pay. my god no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MarkSFC Posted 23 February, 2011 Posted 23 February, 2011 Great interview. Media exposure like that can only add value to the SFC brand. It's great how SFC is working with past legends, embracing our history to promote the club. only if you want the brand to be viewed as living on past glories. not exactly an interview either, just one or two set up questions and let him tell some stories. Suspect Gray and Keys thought "who's good at telling anecdotes and filling out our programme..........". 3 rather sad characters.
MarkSFC Posted 23 February, 2011 Posted 23 February, 2011 my god no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and your point is.............
aintforever Posted 23 February, 2011 Posted 23 February, 2011 only if you want the brand to be viewed as living on past glories. not exactly an interview either, just one or two set up questions and let him tell some stories. Suspect Gray and Keys thought "who's good at telling anecdotes and filling out our programme..........". 3 rather sad characters. I think you are the only sad character if you can't enjoy anecdotes from the time when we were one of the greatest teams in the country. You are seriously deluded as well if you don't believe past glories add any value to a football club's brand.
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