Morph Posted 8 February, 2013 Share Posted 8 February, 2013 "Pretty sure Morph was referring to pre-reverse takeover days and the likes of the Corbett family". Thank you. Yes I was Regards Morph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 8 February, 2013 Share Posted 8 February, 2013 Can anyone explain why people feel the need to get off on these sort issues. Is it that they really don't want to support saints and they are looking for way out or are their lives so empty and shallow this all they can do to feel alive. Either way they need serious medical help. For the record, I think Cortese is an egotistical bully and a perfectionist. Al the qualities required of a good businessman. Saints are reaping the benefits of that. Frankie and MLT Are legends always will be. But the guy who sits next to me at the stadium is no less important to the future of our great club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 8 February, 2013 Share Posted 8 February, 2013 Pretty sure Morph was referring to pre-reverse takeover days and the likes of the Corbett family. Ok, well perhaps Morph will clear that up and if so there have been private shareholders with whom we have been in safer hands but I would point to the fact that the reverse takeover was allowed to happen. The point is, even in the best of times for the vast majority of us it hasn't been our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 8 February, 2013 Share Posted 8 February, 2013 I just feel sorry for Franny's kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 9 February, 2013 Share Posted 9 February, 2013 To be fair, Morph has more agendas than a Secretary's notepad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 9 February, 2013 Share Posted 9 February, 2013 This post is quite ironic, considering he's actually been one of the most private chairmen in the land and any (if not all) public disputes have come from the opposite end. Hmm, so private that he contacted Sky to request being interviewed? (Allegedly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 9 February, 2013 Share Posted 9 February, 2013 Hmm, so private that he contacted Sky to request being interviewed? (Allegedly) About the Benali case? Or (majorly) about the footballing matter of the change of manager? His 2nd televised interview in 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 9 February, 2013 Share Posted 9 February, 2013 Any news on the court case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 9 February, 2013 Share Posted 9 February, 2013 Leon Crouch? Our fans once owned the club, in part. And f*cked it up. If anything it should serve as an example of why "fan ownership" is the complete antithesis of success that those deluded bunch at the other end of the M27 hope it to be. There is a difference to fans owning the club and the fans running it. I think fan ownership is fine as long as the club is run by professionals on behalf of the fans - it works in Spain and Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 9 February, 2013 Share Posted 9 February, 2013 "Pretty sure Morph was referring to pre-reverse takeover days and the likes of the Corbett family". Thank you. Yes I was Regards Morph That was some lurk? Good to see you back - you've been missed. D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 9 February, 2013 Share Posted 9 February, 2013 Why do you find it amusing and naive? When has anyone suggested they have the right to tell Cortese how to run things? Anybody who pays to attend a match has the right to tell Cortese if they are not satisfied with the experience. Whether he pays any attention to the opinions of his paying customers is another matter. He isn't obliged to, but successful businesses listen to what their customers have to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 9 February, 2013 Share Posted 9 February, 2013 Anybody who pays to attend a match has the right to tell Cortese if they are not satisfied with the experience. Whether he pays any attention to the opinions of his paying customers is another matter. He isn't obliged to, but successful businesses listen to what their customers have to say. in most cases...due to the unique emotional attachment football fans have compared to any other business...he would be best to ignore most of the fans comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 9 February, 2013 Share Posted 9 February, 2013 in most cases...due to the unique emotional attachment football fans have compared to any other business...he would be best to ignore most of the fans comments Yes, I agree. To a certain extent the chairman of a football club can ride roughshod over some fans' feelings, as most are unlikely to go elsewhere. But if comments are received by Cortese from fans who appear to be sensible, intelligent and fair in their criticisms, then he is probably far more likely to pay attention to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 9 February, 2013 Share Posted 9 February, 2013 Yes, I agree. To a certain extent the chairman of a football club can ride roughshod over some fans' feelings, as most are unlikely to go elsewhere. But if comments are received by Cortese from fans who appear to be sensible, intelligent and fair in their criticisms, then he is probably far more likely to pay attention to them. which will never ever happen on a match day...emotion takes over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 9 February, 2013 Share Posted 9 February, 2013 Anybody who pays to attend a match has the right to tell Cortese if they are not satisfied with the experience. Whether he pays any attention to the opinions of his paying customers is another matter. He isn't obliged to, but successful businesses listen to what their customers have to say. That's right. We may not own the club but the power is in our hands. If paying customers stopped going, how long would Marcus' family leave Nicola in charge? It won't happen of course, because we have unconditional support for our club, but any private business is ultimately shaped by it's customers. It doesn't make a blind bit of differnce whether its a fan running the club,shareholders or a private individual, the paying customers' wallets drive the business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 9 February, 2013 Share Posted 9 February, 2013 At first sight I did wonder how a thread like this could go on for so many pages, and then reaqlised I wanted to add to it myself! Seems to me that the pro-Cortese and anti-Cortese stuff should be toned down. No club chairman can avoid criticism at times so it won't stop altogether but on a forum such as this it should be related to football matters, not personal matters. For the chairman to rent a house from a company linked to a former player is a very tenuous link to football and seems much more like a personal matter. The outcome of the court case, if it goes ahead, should have no bearing on SFC. To the anti-Cortese people, I'd just say you don't have to like the chairman although most of us, me included, don't know him and can have a view only based on limited knowledge from various sources, some of which may be reliable and some not. What I do believe, is that if Cortese were to walk away from Southampton, there is no way of knowing what the future would hold for the football club. NC has a stated aim of taking the club to the top level. He may not achieve it, but then he might. A new owner could have the same ambition, but then he might not. Why risk creating a gulf between the chairman and the fan base when the chairman's objective is one most fans would support? As for the club being owned by the fans, that is never going to happen and it never has been, even 100 years ago, it has always been private property, because even when the owning company was floated as a public compny, the controlling shares remained in the hands of a very limited number of individuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 9 February, 2013 Share Posted 9 February, 2013 There is a difference to fans owning the club and the fans running it. I think fan ownership is fine as long as the club is run by professionals on behalf of the fans - it works in Spain and Germany. Germany, you say? Interesting. You should mention this more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 9 February, 2013 Share Posted 9 February, 2013 That's right. We may not own the club but the power is in our hands. If paying customers stopped going, how long would Marcus' family leave Nicola in charge? It won't happen of course, because we have unconditional support for our club, but any private business is ultimately shaped by it's customers. It doesn't make a blind bit of differnce whether its a fan running the club,shareholders or a private individual, the paying customers' wallets drive the business I honestly don't think they pay close enough attention that they would notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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