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Likewise - but I'm waiting for the info as I think they want the first £50 in the next couple of weeks: not sure if that's compatible with using Justgiving (or similar).

 

yeah, not sure tbh. may just pay that myself. It's something like £25 entry fee normally, so it's only another £25 donation I guess

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I ran it 3 times in the nineties. Flat course which is good but a bit disconcerting when you turn on to the promenade at about 6 miles and see all the elite runners coming the other way, just before the finishing line. Twice crossed the line at around the same time as Frank Bruno.

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But in October we will be back in the stripes with a bit of luck.

 

Cleaner - battling it out with Trev Clark? My dad used to run for Poole AC and still mates with Martyn Fisher - one of the good Poole AC lot. 2.20 is a great time, John Boyes was the top Bmth area runner at the time I think!

 

MK half tomorrow for me - hoping to get sub 75 and get a place in London next year...

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Me to, just wondered who the Saints foundation runners were, might be worth doing a few runs nearer the time, then we could perhaps run together on the day ? Unless you want to go alone that is, don't mind either.

 

Sounds good.

 

Training together would be good. Running alone is boring, and you're not allowed iPod on the day either!

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I need to do a training run for the Brighton Marathon this weekend: I'm looking at 20m on my tod, no iPod 'cos the cable/pouch etc gets on my nerves after a while! Now that's going to be boring, unless it's fairly bright because the route then becomes quite pleasant at least!

 

Will put deposit down for my Saints Foundation place this week. Looking forward to another GSR!

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Your not allowed an Ipod ??? Why ???

 

Done a run today, aimed for 3 Miles but only managed about 2.5, not really because I was tired but because my left leg just couldn't take any more, this is going to be a problem i think. I wondered if any runners out there could give me a bit of advice.

 

My left knee is the one that i have been operated on, it ached a little whilst running and i could feel i had a slight limp, the main reason though i believe was not the knee itself but more the fact that the muscle in my left leg has so much more atrophy then the right. Towards the end it began to really tire and felt asthough it was just going to give up. Basically, am i going to be able to just run through it to build it up and sort of how long does it take to build ?? I am doing muscle work along with it aswell.

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Your not allowed an Ipod ??? Why ???

 

Done a run today, aimed for 3 Miles but only managed about 2.5, not really because I was tired but because my left leg just couldn't take any more, this is going to be a problem i think. I wondered if any runners out there could give me a bit of advice.

 

My left knee is the one that i have been operated on, it ached a little whilst running and i could feel i had a slight limp, the main reason though i believe was not the knee itself but more the fact that the muscle in my left leg has so much more atrophy then the right. Towards the end it began to really tire and felt asthough it was just going to give up. Basically, am i going to be able to just run through it to build it up and sort of how long does it take to build ?? I am doing muscle work along with it aswell.

 

You need to make sure you are running slow enough to build up a base without overdoing it and hurting yourself. Use the 10% rule, i.e. increase your mileage by 10% each week (and not by more). To gauge what is slow enough, you should be able to hold a normal conversation whilst running, if you can't you are running too fast for a training run. Once you have a base, you mix in other (shorter runs) at a faster pace.

 

Training is all about allowing your body to get maximum gains out of each workout without over-stressing the systems to a point where the gains become less than maximal and the injury risk becomes higher. It is a balancing act that is for sure.

 

Oh and one last thing, ice is your friend, ice up any aches and pains after a run, it helps the tissue repair faster.

 

Good luck.

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Thats the thing, and probably what annoyed me so much.

 

It wasn't that i was tiring or that i was out of breath but purely that my left leg just hasn't the quads my right has, at one point it felt as though the muscles had given up and the knee was going to give way (to all you ACL recons our there not the same feeling). Thats what i need to work on, I know that I will need to build up slowly which is why I went for only around 3 miles, and was running 5 MPH. My problem is I don't know for how long my knee will hold me back.

 

Thanks for the reply though.

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Here is my latest Training Update for those inrerested:-

 

http://georgeweahscousin.com/2011/03/26/training-update-valuable-lessons-learned/

 

Details for sponsorship for those that can spare anything are in there.

 

Side stitch is a something which is really not well understood. Some say it comes from taking on certain types of fluids immediately before running, others say it's mechanical due to ligaments around the abdomen being pulled out of place whilst exhaling and

foot striking at the same time.People who land on their right foot whilst exhaling are less prone than people who land on their left

apparently.Never had a great problem with stich (or exercise induced transient abdominal pain as some prefer to call it) myself but then I'm not a fan of reconstituted orange juice,coca cola etv and only take on energy gels after I've done any warm up that I might do before sessions.I don't eat solid stuff less than 5 hours before running because it never does me any good, I have a few jelly babies now and again though, I like jelly babies and they're one of the easy and cheapest ways to get instant energy, I even sometimes carry them when I'm out on longish runs, 4/5 JBs and a drink out of my Camelback and all's well with the world.

What you need to do is experiment with different circumstances and see what causes SS least, try a bit of heavy breathing every couple of minutes or so, sometimes 4/5 shape outbreaths makes it go away. Ifnot just try running bent forward a bit till it disappears.

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I have managed to get to running about 4-5 miles in around 35-40 minutes, but have found my knee is acheing when I start getting around the 4 mile mark, it goes a little after I slow down and stop completely, this is also part of a bit of clicking/grinding in the knee.

 

I am pretty sure I have runners knee and so am going to have to slow down my running a little. I am going to start swimming and cycling as it should cause less trauma to my kneecap. Pretty sure this is because my left quads are far smaller then right.

 

B*llocks.

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Side stitch is a something which is really not well understood. Some say it comes from taking on certain types of fluids immediately before running, others say it's mechanical due to ligaments around the abdomen being pulled out of place whilst exhaling and

foot striking at the same time.People who land on their right foot whilst exhaling are less prone than people who land on their left

apparently.Never had a great problem with stich (or exercise induced transient abdominal pain as some prefer to call it) myself but then I'm not a fan of reconstituted orange juice,coca cola etv and only take on energy gels after I've done any warm up that I might do before sessions.I don't eat solid stuff less than 5 hours before running because it never does me any good, I have a few jelly babies now and again though, I like jelly babies and they're one of the easy and cheapest ways to get instant energy, I even sometimes carry them when I'm out on longish runs, 4/5 JBs and a drink out of my Camelback and all's well with the world.

What you need to do is experiment with different circumstances and see what causes SS least, try a bit of heavy breathing every couple of minutes or so, sometimes 4/5 shape outbreaths makes it go away. Ifnot just try running bent forward a bit till it disappears.

 

I get this sometimes during running, on my right side. I always thought it was because you're liver is on that side of your body. As your diaphragm pulls up, the weight of your liver pulls down, hence pain. I find breathing in on my right step, holding it for 3 paces (breathe out on the 2nd left step) helps. Also, lifting my right arm above my head whilst running, helps as well (although you can look a bit of an idiot!). Like you WC, I always try to not eat at least 2 hours before running and don't take on fluids, as it doesn't do me any favours.

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Sorry to hear about your injury Adrian, its a toughie, I mean, due to your injury do you get the cash you have pledged back from saints ??

 

I am not in the best fitness I could possibly be in but I think I am fit enough to do it in a decent time, cheers for the info, I have managed to get it sorted, I think it was just getting my knee used to actually doing some work again for once, but been running, playing 6 a side, 11 a side and plyometrics so its very used to working now lol !!!

 

I have not actually done a whole lot of long runs but I am fully confident I can achieve it as I have done a couple.

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I've put a handful of 10 milers in over the past few weeks. I'm big and not quick (1:41 last year, down from 1:46 before that) but will be a stone or so lighter on the day, and hopefully manage a PB!

 

I'm at SMS Saturday. Had an email from Adi Butterworth a while back with the logistics for Saturday, should have it to send on if anyone needs.

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Yeah I am running Sunday, looking forward to it, don't get me wrong I have not done as much training as I wanted but have lost a ton of weight and know that I will finish.

 

Have another entry for next year so whatever I do this year I will aim to beat next year.

 

All not too bad considering I have only been able to train for the past 2/3 months after an ACL operation.

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Good luck. I've had a months training after injury but feel alright. I'll finish but not that quick, still, like you I'll be back to improve it next year.Shame there's no big runs in Southampton really. Why isn't there? Brighton and Pompey seem to do far better than us. Even reading and bath have decent half marathons.

 

that would be because the honourable whingers of Southampton don't want the road to the bakery or the newspaper kiosque

closed of a Sunday morning.

 

Portsmouth Council close main drags willingly for the GSR,their Southampton counterparts won't.

Pompey also probably give a bigger subvention to this event than Southampton were willing to.

The GSR used to alternate between Southampton and Portsmouth but there were issues with closing the Avenue on a Sunday morning.

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That's a shame. Would be a big boost for the city and it's only once a year. Seems to be something wrong with the attitude of this city sometimes.

 

Always has been with road running, at first we had a marathon for about 3/4 years in the 80's,then it became a half,the inaugural GSR was in Southampton...ran that just the once in 1990 ,then the half disappeared and there was a half-hearted attempt at a 10K

but the problem was always the same...closing roads in the City Centre and it's surrounds.Still there a few good races around Southampton as far as I know,Netley and Eastleigh both run a 10K, there used to be a well subscribed 10 miler at Toothill at about this time of year...my what a leg breaker that was..started from Rowhnams rec or thereabouts if I remember correctly.

 

NB Looked it up on Hampshire AA's website. The Toothill 10 has become the Lordshill 10 miles and it's next Sunday,so if you get round this Sunday with too much damage you could always have a stab at that.Hope Toothill isn't on the circuit though,I remember throwing up a cherry yoghurt at the top of that beasty,serves me right shouldn't have eaten it beforehand I guess.

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Really looking forward to the run on sunday, expect to complete it in under an hour & 20 minutes.
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Not a bad time that,it may depend on weather conditions though, that last 3 miles or so is difficult if you get a sprite south westerly.Not run the GSR since about 94 but when there was a headwind at the end I ran about 55,with a tailwind the year before think I did about 52.30 or something like that.

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Fck that's fast. I've not beaten 1:22 in training. Would gladly take that again, not done such a busy run as this one before so expecting to be weaving in and out and wasting time.

 

I used to have pride and a complex about finishing after the first woman, still got the pride and the complex but unfortunately not the legs.

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I'm hoping for sub 1 hour 30.

 

Best I have had over 10 miles in training is 1 hour 33, so might be asking too much. The last time I took part in a 10 mile race, when I was still in the army, the Banja Luka tough ten I did it in 1 hour 15, but no chance of that tomorrow.

 

Should be able to knock 3 minutes off of a training time in competition, depends on the crowding in the first mile or so.Presume it's chip timing so that's useful,perhaps there are finishing time blocks at the start as well but as these aren't very disciplined as a rule it sometimes hinders more than helps. Best of luck to all anyway.

Wish I'd entered really,could have done that match this afty and the run tomorrow, thought about it, dillied and dallied and then entries were closed. Not used to that,you can still turn up on the day and register at most races in France,still think I could run under the hour easily, ran about 53 for a 15 k the other day.

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Should be able to knock 3 minutes off of a training time in competition, depends on the crowding in the first mile or so.Presume it's chip timing so that's useful,perhaps there are finishing time blocks at the start as well but as these aren't very disciplined as a rule it sometimes hinders more than helps. Best of luck to all anyway.

Wish I'd entered really,could have done that match this afty and the run tomorrow, thought about it, dillied and dallied and then entries were closed. Not used to that,you can still turn up on the day and register at most races in France,still think I could run under the hour easily, ran about 53 for a 15 k the other day.

 

That's quite the talent you have for running are/were you part of a running club. I did an 8km race in just under 36 minutes yesterday, came 11th but there always those club runners who finish miles ahead of the mid-packers like me. It's amazing to see.

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That's quite the talent you have for running are/were you part of a running club. I did an 8km race in just under 36 minutes yesterday, came 11th but there always those club runners who finish miles ahead of the mid-packers like me. It's amazing to see.

 

Yes, I've always run with clubs, some quite good ones, Birchfield,Blackheath,CA Montreuil,Clermont Athletisme.Always full of good people who'll help you along whenever things aren't so great and you get to pass along whatever you have to offer to the youngsters as well.

 

I love running, couldn't see sustained life without,even though I get slower every year now I slog away at it.

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Loved it! Struggled with crowds in front, felt I was unable to go as fast as I could most the time but speeded up throughout and managed 1:24. Sprinted past 2 guys in Pompey shirts in the last 100 metres which was nice!

 

That's good,I see from some of the chip times that a lot of people blew up from about 10K so I guess there was a bit of a breeze at the end.

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Yeah 8 miles and onwards was tough, the houses and narrow streets keep the wind off before that but then it's a couple of miles next to the sea. All good fun though. Hope to see more saints shirts next year, think I counted 6 or 7 today.

 

Football shirts aren't ideal for running though, perhaps they could do some red and white striped singlets with the sponsor and everything.

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