for_heaven's_Saint Posted 12 February, 2011 Share Posted 12 February, 2011 The Ex-Saints still have their box and they invite about six ex-players at a time to matches meaning that all the members get to see Saints at some point in the season. I agree it is difficult to draw the line because there are some players in the Ex-saints who never made a first team appearance but this isn't to say they don't love the club as much as others. However it does show that it would be very difficult and costly for the club to make concessions for Ex-Saints because some would have to be excluded. I also agree that whilst some may not like NC, they do not want the club to fail. I actually don't think they realise that they are perhaps being a little narrowminded and selfish in complaining about the lack of recognition and concessions for the old players and truly believe it is detramental to the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 12 February, 2011 Share Posted 12 February, 2011 It does seem remarkable that all of us have one common ambition to see Saints suceed but so many of us fall out. Football is all about opinions and we're all experts on how things should be done (at least on here LOL), but you're right in that I doubt any "true" Saints fan wants the Club to fail. We all ultimately want the Club to succeed and prosper, which is why I do get a tad frustrated when some people start questioning others credentials just because they have the temerity to offer an alternative opinion on "their" Club. At the very, very, very worse I imagine a few wouldn't mind a name failing (insert Cortese, Lawrie etc), but the Club itself??? I very much doubt it. Lawrie and Matt love the club as much as you and I and while both air their grievances as fans they are both entitled. My one caveat to that would be that given their profile, status and reach, I do think they have to be somewhat measured and thoughtful before they give their thoughts on some of the more "controversial" issues. In the sense that they are not mere fans, there does come a degree of responsibility with their status. I'm not saying they should gag themselves, nor that they should refrain from commenting on things they consider important to them, but there has to be a an acceptance on their part that their words may well travel further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 12 February, 2011 Share Posted 12 February, 2011 Spy - I am not close to anyone at the club any more so no real insights from there. I know Tim Manns and I know he was asked to "professionalise" the ex-Saints by creating a proper data base etc. I also know someone put a bit of money into it and bought a box which various ex-Saints would be invited to. Whether or not that person is still around i do not know. I also know Roy Beazely who was very helpful when we did the Give it to Ron appeal but he has been pretty unwell recently. I am not really sure the politics of new v old but I think it about time everything came under one umbrella and it would be nice if the club sponsored it and thereby had an element of control. Old players are sometimes regarded as hangers on I know but at the same time they are part of our history. Tough call really. Does Joe Bloggs who played 1 game in 1957 qualify for a freebie. Where do you join the line? I don't know why the club did not organise something re a dinner to mark the 125th. By not doing so it opened itself up to criticism and someone else organising something which has in turn led to all these rumours. It does seem remarkable that all of us have one common ambition to see Saints suceed but so many of us fall out. I don't believe ex Saints managers players etc want to see Saints fail because they don't get on with NC like some on here claim. Lawrie and Matt love the club as much as you and I and while both air their grievances as fans they are both entitled. I think the Echo love all this because it gives them something to write about. Don't think too many Echo journalists are Saints fans anyway. Good post Duncan, As you know in the main I am a Cortese fan, but he is not untouchable. Other than the kit which IMO was a great idea - The 125 year celebration has been a complete non event and this falls at the feet of Cortese IMO. Dinner, a marquee celebration match perhaps, museum etc etc could and should have been done to celebrate this milestone. There are some very personal issues here which I would love to see resolved but I cannot see it to be honest - Too many egos. When he came in Cortese said that Southampton had a histrory of politics destroying it but he would see that this would stop. It hasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 12 February, 2011 Share Posted 12 February, 2011 No decent Saints fan would ever refer to MLT as Wes Tender did. How about the brilliant lazy guernseyman? Would that qualify anyone as a decent saints fan? When Lowe was at the club you never heard him speak publicly about how Lowe has got things wrong yet no-one fell about themselves backing Le Tiss then in only saying nice things about the club and it's chairman. I seem to remember most people slating Lowe at every given opportunity. Now he falls out with Cortese and some people are hanging on for every word the great man says so they have a reason to have a go at the club. Decent saints fans indeed. :raisedeyebrowemotethingy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 February, 2011 Share Posted 12 February, 2011 Lowe could do no right and Cortese can do no wrong apparently? After the years of grief we had with a previous CEO is it too much to hope for a period when the only thing is football and the politics b*ll**** disappears into the background? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 12 February, 2011 Share Posted 12 February, 2011 Where did this little pack of Cortese Luvvies suddenly pop up from? I happen to think he has done a lot of good things with the Liebherrs money, but he has also done some stupid things. I will support the good decisions and I will criticise the bad decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 12 February, 2011 Share Posted 12 February, 2011 Having been in the company of some of these guys at recent games, my observation would be there's no trouble between the parties concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 12 February, 2011 Share Posted 12 February, 2011 Good post Duncan, As you know in the main I am a Cortese fan, but he is not untouchable. Other than the kit which IMO was a great idea - The 125 year celebration has been a complete non event and this falls at the feet of Cortese IMO. Dinner, a marquee celebration match perhaps, museum etc etc could and should have been done to celebrate this milestone. There are some very personal issues here which I would love to see resolved but I cannot see it to be honest - Too many egos. When he came in Cortese said that Southampton had a histrory of politics destroying it but he would see that this would stop. It hasn't. But surely this down to the antagonists? Cortese has done this club a remarkable favour by getting Markus involved in the first place and the committing his personal time and future to the club. He is slowly but surely making all the right decisions in terms of sorting out the infrastructure for the future - not a small act I might add, given the complete mess the whole club was in when he took over. I believe he responds to these press reports in the right way and at the right time, only reacting when he really feels the need and when he has something useful to say. Contrast that to Lowe and his wish to talk more than the Manager? I think there is a real need for the club to recognise and support the ex-Saints that matter. However, where do you draw the line with that support? If an ex-Saint is asked to get up and speak after dinner in one of the Exec suites for example, he'll want to be paid for it I suspect or at least receive a free Exec ST. The easy answer for the club is say, "your welcome here but please pay your way". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 12 February, 2011 Share Posted 12 February, 2011 Duncan Just a bit more background on the Ex Saints bit As I understand it The Box at St Marys is paid for by Clive Webster?? who is a v keen Saints fan having made his money in the Care Home Business. He also has a horse or two (Archers Rd?) under training with Mick Channon at Lambourne He is actively involved in the Old Saints Professionals (or wording similar to this, which Tim Manns runs from Jersey) Whatever the organisation is called it has the same ideals, aims and objectives as the Ex Saints but don't think they are the same organisation. As regards Roy Beazley both he and his wife have been through a lot in latter years healthwise so wish him well I think he got a CBE or something similar for his charity work after spending many years working for the NHS and in the Docks as well as being v active in local football , often with Steve Beaney who sadly died a few years ago Roy remains v matey with John Sydenham finally it seems a little odd to me that having majored on the 125 yr anniversary, the club hasnt done more to celebrate the whole history of the club which has been allowed to continue, and hopefully flourish, under the new ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 12 February, 2011 Share Posted 12 February, 2011 (edited) Where did this little pack of Cortese Luvvies suddenly pop up from? This is a good post and I agree wholeheartedly with the style of rhetoric. As you know, I am quite dim, so this type of argument works brilliantly for me. If someone has an opinion, I always find it handy to put them into a little box with people that share a similar opinion and label that box. It makes it easier for me to deal with the world. It helps me speak my beliefs without having to actually justify them, I can simply put them out there in opposition to the lefties/Cortese luvvies/gays/Muslims. And I use those terms pejoratively, of course. By setting up this opposition it neatly compartmentalises my world so that I don't actually have to take issues on their relative merits, they are merely the opposite of another, usually sinister, belief. Therefore, I win. Edited 12 February, 2011 by Deppo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 12 February, 2011 Share Posted 12 February, 2011 I shall continue to post throughout the day against: The Davis Bumboys The Puncheon Booboys The Bart Haters The Hammond Homos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 12 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 12 February, 2011 . I will support the good decisions and I will criticise the bad decisions. Fair do's But if you criticise him on something that is seen as a bad decision and then that report turns out to be utter bull**** then i hope you would put your hand up and say you were wrong. Because that seems to be the case here doesn't it? As for Cortese love in thing i don't think it is anything like that. People have respect for the guy and what he has done. When things are going well and he makes the right calls he deserves some credit. However when it goes tits up and he makes bad calls he deserves criticism. That is the nature of the beast. The problem is a lot of people criticise him based on things that are not true. And because he doesn't come out and say it isn't true they then take that to be some sort of confirmation that it must be true! So it's not really being a "luvvie" it is a simple case of if your going to execute a guy make sure he is guilty before you sentance him, some people judge him before any evidence has been shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 12 February, 2011 Share Posted 12 February, 2011 Where did this little pack of Cortese Luvvies suddenly pop up from? I happen to think he has done a lot of good things with the Liebherrs money, but he has also done some stupid things. I will support the good decisions and I will criticise the bad decisions. Yeh right! you've already criticised the new training ground structure, and it hasn't been built yet. I have yet to see you support NC on anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 12 February, 2011 Share Posted 12 February, 2011 Yeh right! you've already criticised the new training ground structure, and it hasn't been built yet. I have yet to see you support NC on anything. It does look like an IKEA flat pack. This was an observation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispypie Posted 12 February, 2011 Share Posted 12 February, 2011 Having been in the company of some of these guys at recent games, my observation would be there's no trouble between the parties concerned. Dont you come on here bothering peiple with your facts. We want rumours so we can caomplain about stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 12 February, 2011 Share Posted 12 February, 2011 Its part of his endearing quality, that he was (a) from Guernsey and (b) that he was lazy. He says as much himself. It is not an insult. When the phrase was originally introduced I seem to recall the poster was using it as a comparison, compared calling Cortest a slimy Italian (or something similar) with someone calling MLT the lazy Guernseyman. Still does not detract from the fact that MLT is not the brightest when it comes to media gaffs as he ably demonstrated in his book. Will never detract from his footballing ability or his legendary status. Thank you Vectis; I respect your stance on most things and I am happy that you recall the context, that Dune called Cortese a slimey Italian and so I decided to retaliate to see if he could take the medicine that he liked to dish out by what I said of Le Tiss. Mind you, you would have thought that I had uttered some heresy and that the Spanish Inquisition were on their way to burn me at the stake. I offered to retract the Le Tiss remarks in return for Dune apologising for his remarks about Cortese, as I quote below:- "Did I slag off how he played? I said that he was lazy. I'm sure that I read him admitting it himself in his autobiography. I'll apologise for the lazy remark, if you're big enough to withdraw the slimey tag you gave to Cortese. But I don't think that you're big enough to do that. But of course, Dune isn't man enough to do that. Neither has he apologised for the part he paid in the feeding frenzy against Cortese on the closed thread, when he was one of the chief antagonists. So will he be a bit less hasty the next time he reads something anti-Cortese in the press? I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 12 February, 2011 Share Posted 12 February, 2011 It's good that there's no rift between the Ex saints and the club, hopefully we can draw a line underneath all this now and both sides make an effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 12 February, 2011 Share Posted 12 February, 2011 Why all the fuss about lack of 125 year celebrations? It's not even a big one is it, are we going to moan next year when we do nothing for 126 years? We are best of waiting another 25 years, forget about it and concentrate on the football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 12 February, 2011 Share Posted 12 February, 2011 I had not realised these events were actually on until this came up this week in the Mail and then brainlessly carried by the hapless Echo until their partial retraction with this story. Nothing new there then. Can somebody tell me who is running these events and it is for charity or a for profit activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 12 February, 2011 Share Posted 12 February, 2011 Why do some people feel the need to take sides in this Cortese/MLT 'feud'? MLT is our greatest ever player, who will always be a hero to any true Saints fan. Cortese convinced Marcus to buy the club. I don't think some people realise how lucky we were to get these guys. It's not like billionaires are lining up around the block to buy League 1 clubs (Or most clubs anywhere for that matter). As far as I'm concerned he's done an absolutely superb job so far. Wouldn't swap him for anyone. As long as he keeps up the good work, which I'm sure he will I won't be changing my mind on that. I love MLT. I love Cortese. I couldn't care less about any grudge they might have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 12 February, 2011 Share Posted 12 February, 2011 Good post Duncan, As you know in the main I am a Cortese fan, but he is not untouchable. Other than the kit which IMO was a great idea - The 125 year celebration has been a complete non event and this falls at the feet of Cortese IMO. Dinner, a marquee celebration match perhaps, museum etc etc could and should have been done to celebrate this milestone. There are some very personal issues here which I would love to see resolved but I cannot see it to be honest - Too many egos. When he came in Cortese said that Southampton had a histrory of politics destroying it but he would see that this would stop. It hasn't. TBF thjough teh politics has not stopped because grievences and dfferences of (entitled) opinion have been aired very publically by some - and maybe its just coincidence that those that have done this were two big names BOTH involve dto some extent politically in the past?- yet the club has kept quiet in an effort to avoid the politics. Its funny how both sides are actually making the same same point - that no one is above criticism ... unless its a hero..or unless they saved the club... same principle, polar opposites... NOBODY IS above critisism... Cortese, MLT, Lawrie etc... all should be open to critisim when they feck up... The question has never been about blindly following Cortese and not accepeting taht things have maybe been sometimes mishandled, for me it been WHY have a couple of our heros (who just happen to be the two most involved in the previous politics) chosen and continue to chose this time to criticise in public? I just dont understand why and what tehy are hoping to achieve - th last one with Stelling pushing Matt on tickets was cringe worthy and pointless... whether they ahev a point right or wrong is not the issue, but teh methods used to make it and the timing which simply suggests that they are still 'politically' active... to me that is disspointing. NOT because Cortese is beyond critism, but becasue its another distraction from the job in hand, especially compared to the way things went under Lowe, Wilde, Crouch, Hoon, Wilde/Lowe we have a stable forward looking regime that is making things happen - I think its a valid question to ask - but are things now looking better ON the pitch simply because the club is doing more things right than wrong for the first time in ages... and is that because it HAS shed some of the 'personalities' and 'ego's that had thier own thoughts on the way things should be done - fair enough, but look where we were whilst they were a 'presence' in the club, supporting one faction against another? To be honest, I do actually believe that the turn around has not just been about money - but about a change in the way the club is structured, and managed - its slicker, no 'dead wood' etc whilst this change will undoubtedly have caused ripples of discontent amongst staff initially, especially those who were now surplus to requirements, in the long term the results are evident on the pitch - 'you dont make a cake without breaking a few...etc' but if the recipe is right us as fans will get to taste a decent result. For it seems that in the past we had 'too many cooks' - trying to encourage recipes from the past - afterall us fans had enjoyed their cake previously so why should their recipes be ignored now? And we have loads of fans, perhaps more from the 35+ generation that still hanker after some of these recipes, liked those chefs and perhaps find teh current cake a little too different form what they are used to? So for tehm thier favourites can do no rwrong and whats with this young upstart wanting us to eat Panatone? OK stupid cake/chef analogy, but All I would ask is that we are all prepared to try the cake - Lawrie and Matt included (and Matt lets be honest never had a problem with cake)... If Don Cotese gets the recipe right, we can all have our cake and eat it ! ;-) ... too much wine/beer methinks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Shouldn't that be too many c*cks FC??? The simple fact is that is this was happening under Lowe this forum would be in meltdown (no matter what the actual facts of the situation are). As as has been said before Cortese is Lowe with Money. An arrogant c*ck now, goodness knows what he would be like if he ever made it to the Premiership! If he does have success then the mob will put up with him. If he doesn't ... watch this space! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Shouldn't that be too many c*cks FC??? The simple fact is that is this was happening under Lowe this forum would be in meltdown (no matter what the actual facts of the situation are). As as has been said before Cortese is Lowe with Money. An arrogant c*ck now, goodness knows what he would be like if he ever made it to the Premiership! If he does have success then the mob will put up with him. If he doesn't ... watch this space! I agree entirely. I suppose the big difference is that NC represents the owners and therefore they can do what they please while Rupert was wholly answerable to the shareholders and to a lesser extent us fans. Off the field Lowe did allright - for me it was when he started getting involved on the pitch, but let's not go there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Shouldn't that be too many c*cks FC??? The simple fact is that is this was happening under Lowe this forum would be in meltdown (no matter what the actual facts of the situation are). As as has been said before Cortese is Lowe with Money. An arrogant c*ck now, goodness knows what he would be like if he ever made it to the Premiership! If he does have success then the mob will put up with him. If he doesn't ... watch this space! What exactly is happening to create a meltdown ? Superb squad , vying for promotion, outstanding young manager, not selling our young stars, fanatstic new training ground, no debts...yeah definitely riot material. As against banning some schitt stirrer from having a season ticket and telling some free loading "legends" (and hangers-on) that getting paid a fortune for doing FCCuk all is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 If he doesn't ... watch this space! Well we already had a few renditions of "You don't know what you're doing" and "There's only one Alan Pardew" last September (probably sung by the same bunch who were yesterday singing their Cortese song, fickle, my ar%se). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Would people rather have a L1 team who welcomes ex players and other hangers on with open arms, allows people like FF and Illingsworth to be fully involved with the club and privy to ITK information they can tease us about on forums, have fans on the board and have a picture of LM up in the boardroom. Or would people rather have a successfull team with a successful chairman who doesn't give a **** about anyone or anything else, espicially when they are just after it all for their own benefit. I know what i'd rather... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Would people rather have a L1 team who welcomes ex players and other hangers on with open arms, allows people like FF and Illingsworth to be fully involved with the club and privy to ITK information they can tease us about on forums, have fans on the board and have a picture of LM up in the boardroom. Or would people rather have a successfull team with a successful chairman who doesn't give a **** about anyone or anything else, espicially when they are just after it all for their own benefit. I know what i'd rather... Yeah, because those two extremes are the only two choices available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Would people rather have a L1 team who welcomes ex players and other hangers on with open arms, allows people like FF and Illingsworth to be fully involved with the club and privy to ITK information they can tease us about on forums, have fans on the board and have a picture of LM up in the boardroom. Or would people rather have a successfull team with a successful chairman who doesn't give a **** about anyone or anything else, espicially when they are just after it all for their own benefit. I know what i'd rather... So we've got a choice between both extremes and no middle ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Yeah, because those two extremes are the only two choices available. You beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 I am a Dune luvvie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 You beat me to it. And me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Yeah, because those two extremes are the only two choices available. it seems these are the choices though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 (edited) Not going to bother arguing. Edited 13 February, 2011 by hypochondriac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 it seems these are the choices though Exactly...I don't really see too much middle ground where i'm sitting, and I don't particularly care for any. If Saints are successful I don't care if certain people have a chip on their shoulder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Exactly...I don't really see too much middle ground where i'm sitting, and I don't particularly care for any. If Saints are successful I don't care if certain people have a chip on their shoulder. I hope if we get a fan forum next year (clearly not getting one this year) someone will be able to ask some questions and appeal for cooperation on SFC's part towards legends like MLT. Will be interesting to hear the response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 What cooperation does MLT need exactly? He works most Saturdays anyway, and if he really wants a seat for free for every home game i'd happily buy him a Season Ticket. Hell i'd even drive him there myself I love him so much. It's not really MLT with the problem though is it, it's certain nobodies complaining about losing their ITK status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Why do some people feel the need to take sides in this Cortese/MLT 'feud'? MLT is our greatest ever player, who will always be a hero to any true Saints fan. Cortese convinced Marcus to buy the club. I don't think some people realise how lucky we were to get these guys. It's not like billionaires are lining up around the block to buy League 1 clubs (Or most clubs anywhere for that matter). As far as I'm concerned he's done an absolutely superb job so far. Wouldn't swap him for anyone. As long as he keeps up the good work, which I'm sure he will I won't be changing my mind on that. I love MLT. I love Cortese. I couldn't care less about any grudge they might have. I would guess this is the view of 90%+ of Saints fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Does anybody else find it incredibly amusing that posters declare they support the good and criticize the bad, when the vast majority on here would fail miserably as the chairman of a professional football club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Would people rather have a L1 team who welcomes ex players and other hangers on with open arms, allows people like FF and Illingsworth to be fully involved with the club and privy to ITK information they can tease us about on forums, have fans on the board and have a picture of LM up in the boardroom. Or would people rather have a successfull team with a successful chairman who doesn't give a **** about anyone or anything else, espicially when they are just after it all for their own benefit. I know what i'd rather... I fail to see how the choice of picture in the boardroom influences League position. Maybe that's why we did so sh!t under Lowe, it wasn't rubbish managers or selling all our decent players - it was that bloody train picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Lowe could do no right and Cortese can do no wrong apparently? After the years of grief we had with a previous CEO is it too much to hope for a period when the only thing is football and the politics b*ll**** disappears into the background? and your first word contributed to this thread is. . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 it seems these are the choices though I very much doubt they are and I svery much doubt they could/should be. It's as lame as "who would you shoot, your mum or your dad". Playground stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Would people rather have a L1 team who welcomes ex players and other hangers on with open arms, allows people like FF and Illingsworth to be fully involved with the club and privy to ITK information they can tease us about on forums, have fans on the board and have a picture of LM up in the boardroom. Or would people rather have a successfull team with a successful chairman who doesn't give a **** about anyone or anything else, espicially when they are just after it all for their own benefit. I know what i'd rather... The anonymous voice of rampant jealousy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Does anybody else find it incredibly amusing that posters declare they support the good and criticize the bad, when the vast majority on here would fail miserably as the chairman of a professional football club? I'm sure we would fail miserably, but football is all about opinions & passion and a forum like this allows us to talk bollocx etc. Additionally, many posters support the good and criticise the bad with regards players and/or managers, but I'm sure they would fail miserably if put in charge of the team or stuck out on the wing. That said, is there anything wrong with offering up your thoughts about how your Club is run and how any of the decisions impact on you as a supporter? You never know if a semblence of a consensus could be found, there might even be the possibility that someone might listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 (edited) The anonymous voice of rampant jealousy? Can't be bothered having an argument with someone who has such a high opinion of themselves. Edited 13 February, 2011 by LGTL Meh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Shouldn't that be too many c*cks FC??? The simple fact is that is this was happening under Lowe this forum would be in meltdown (no matter what the actual facts of the situation are). As as has been said before Cortese is Lowe with Money. An arrogant c*ck now, goodness knows what he would be like if he ever made it to the Premiership! If he does have success then the mob will put up with him. If he doesn't ... watch this space! They are absolutely nothing like each other at all. Cortese actually has a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Not going to bother arguing. Oh go on! Don't let us down now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 The anonymous voice of rampant jealousy? Ouch. That's nasty, Duncan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Ouch. That's nasty, Duncan. It hurt me immensly Deppo. Could you set up your agony aunt page again for me, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 I'm sure we would fail miserably, but football is all about opinions & passion and a forum like this allows us to talk bollocx etc. Additionally, many posters support the good and criticise the bad with regards players and/or managers, but I'm sure they would fail miserably if put in charge of the team or stuck out on the wing. That said, is there anything wrong with offering up your thoughts about how your Club is run and how any of the decisions impact on you as a supporter? You never know if a semblence of a consensus could be found, there might even be the possibility that someone might listen. Very true, i wasn't actually referring to you in particular. To me it seems odd to treat each incident as isolated, because that isn't actually how things are run. Each decision is dependent on a number of factors, so to take ANY decision made by the club out of its overall context (or without knowing the context) is simplistic at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 As an aside, is hatred of Cortese (for some) due to his banking background? It seems to me that the posters who hated Lowe for being a toff now also hate Cortese, when really they have very little in common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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