SuperMikey Posted 9 February, 2011 Posted 9 February, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-12412739 Good for them I say, although Upton Park has so much history...and in the direction they're headed in they won't be able to fill half of the stadium in 3 or 4 years!
krissyboy31 Posted 9 February, 2011 Posted 9 February, 2011 Pleased with that. Ridiculous what Spuds planned to do with that stadium.
Colinjb Posted 9 February, 2011 Posted 9 February, 2011 Excellent news. Spurs plan made a kind of sense..... particularly as the venue's future purpose was always far too wooly but West Ham's plan to keep it multipurpose are by far and away the better idea. This also allows Crystal Palace FC a chance for a brighter future with a new ground. I still fear for Leyton Orient but at least they still only have one other club in their back yard.
Mattio Posted 9 February, 2011 Posted 9 February, 2011 I wonder if they'll have binoculars to hire like you get at the theatre?
Colinjb Posted 9 February, 2011 Posted 9 February, 2011 I wonder if they'll have binoculars to hire like you get at the theatre? To quote Karen Brady on Talksport yesterday. "The Back row at the Olympic stadium is 10 yards closer to the pitch then the back row at Wembley."
Colinjb Posted 10 February, 2011 Posted 10 February, 2011 Even behind the goals? Really? It's what Karen Brady said.... No reason to doubt her, or believe her either way.
hypochondriac Posted 10 February, 2011 Posted 10 February, 2011 It's what Karen Brady said.... No reason to doubt her, or believe her either way. Well... She is a woman.
Colinjb Posted 10 February, 2011 Posted 10 February, 2011 Well... She is a woman. Yes, of course, that's exactly what I meant.
Hatch Posted 10 February, 2011 Posted 10 February, 2011 seems like Harry has not been as liberal with the brown envelopes as he could have been
keithd Posted 10 February, 2011 Posted 10 February, 2011 seems like Harry has not been as liberal with the brown envelopes as he could have been he's let himself and everybody down there
angelman Posted 10 February, 2011 Posted 10 February, 2011 It's Orient I feel sorry for. +1 Typical arrogance of the closed shop that is the PL. Why couldn't Orient take over, and build up their fan base to be able to fill it? How far is Orient away - 500 yards? So what if it takes a few years to do? So what if it never happens? I would have thought that the whole idea behind the Olympic stadium would be to promote sport. An athletics stadium would be growing weeds with in 2 years, so that really isn't viable. So all that seems to be happening is the promotion of the bank accounts of a PL team. It isn't decided yet. Spurs - their plan seemed better as they were to rebuild a 25k stadium at Crystal Palace. Always been the home of athletics. West Ham - just heard someone (a fan) say that it would allow them to compete with the big boys. Again, why should they be favoured over Orient? If they do get it, I hope they get relegated. Well maybe not as the fans don't want it, nor do the Spuds as they don't want to move half way across London. Actually what it shows is what a complete waste of money this Olympics really is.
Saint Keith Posted 10 February, 2011 Posted 10 February, 2011 It's Orient I feel sorry for. if its going to be a multi purpose staduim, then why cant west ham and orient ground share?
Lets B Avenue Posted 10 February, 2011 Posted 10 February, 2011 SSN are saying its not confirmed as West Ham yet. However, thats probably them being miffed that the Beeb got last nights exclusive. The oh-so reliable "Sky Sports Sources" must have been on holiday.
Hatch Posted 10 February, 2011 Posted 10 February, 2011 if its going to be a multi purpose staduim, then why cant west ham and orient ground share? This. and Spurs with Arsenal if they can't redevelop WHL.
Papa Shango Posted 10 February, 2011 Posted 10 February, 2011 Shame for West Ham really. Upton Park is a good enough and big enough stadium already, no need to move at all. They'll be moving from a stadium with plenty of character to a soulless bowl. I've been to stadiums with athletics tracks before and it certainly doesn't make for a good atmosphere or view. Will they get close to filling it most weeks?
Alanh Posted 10 February, 2011 Posted 10 February, 2011 if its going to be a multi purpose staduim, then why cant west ham and orient ground share? Not sure that Barry Hearn actually wants to (or needs to) leave Brisbane Road. Orient's fan base is the right size for their ground as it stands. I'm not sure that they could contribute much to the running of a Prem quality stadium and they would be rrattling round in there on matchdays.
Patrick Bateman Posted 10 February, 2011 Posted 10 February, 2011 I think it's a real shame. It'll probably be crap and soulless. Upton Park is a great ground with a lot of great history.
buctootim Posted 10 February, 2011 Posted 10 February, 2011 A move driven by fear imo as I doubt whether Spurs, West Ham or Orient really wanted it - they were just worried about what would happen to their clubs if one of the others got the stadium instead of them. Will be interesting to see what happens to Orient's support with a new 'big boy' only half a mile up the road. I guess West Ham will fill in the athletics track with seating?
thesaint sfc Posted 10 February, 2011 Posted 10 February, 2011 I think it's a real shame. It'll probably be crap and soulless. Upton Park is a great ground with a lot of great history. This.
stevegrant Posted 10 February, 2011 Posted 10 February, 2011 Will be interesting to see what happens to Orient's support with a new 'big boy' only half a mile up the road. I don't think that's going to be the problem (would have been with Spurs, less so with West Ham), as West Ham's not actually that far from Leytonstone anyway. I guess West Ham will fill in the athletics track with seating? Apparently not. It amazes me that there were no plans put in initially to allow for retractable seating like they have at Stade de France, for example. Karren Brady's claiming that the furthest seat from the pitch at the Olympic Stadium will be 10 metres closer than the furthest seat at Wembley. She's obviously forgetting that Wembley is 50% bigger in terms of seating capacity than the West Ham-adjusted Olympic Stadium will be, and that the depth of each row of seats at Wembley is huge. I can't imagine the Olympic Stadium will have as much leg room.
alehouseboys Posted 10 February, 2011 Posted 10 February, 2011 Will be interesting to see what happens to Orient's support with a new 'big boy' only half a mile up the road. West Ham must be as near to Stratford as Orient and I'd guess most football fans in the area are Hammers, so can't see how it's really going to make much difference to O's attendances any more than if they tore down the Boleyn and rebuilt a big shiney new stadium there. Looks fine when full but most weeks, possibly in the Championship, it's gonna be one great big vacuous white elephant with that capacity and running track...reckon they'd live to regret moving.
OldNick Posted 10 February, 2011 Posted 10 February, 2011 will this mean Sullivan and Gold can sel Upton Park for development and erase the Hammers debt. I assume they will pay rent for the OLYMPIC stadium
alehouseboys Posted 10 February, 2011 Posted 10 February, 2011 I don't think that's going to be the problem (would have been with Spurs, less so with West Ham), as West Ham's not actually that far from Leytonstone anyway. Beat me to it. Spurs - their plan seemed better as they were to rebuild a 25k stadium at Crystal Palace. Always been the home of athletics. Spurs planned to shift what they'd have knocked down to south London to complete Crystal Palace athletics stadium and CPFC were proposing selling off Selhurst Park and moving back to their original home as part of the plan. Wonder what their fans would have thought about having a running track around their pitch? But what is it about London teams willing to move away from their roots, Arsenal from Woolwich, South to North London, Wimbledon and now Spurs willing to relocate smack bang in rival territory?
100%Red&White Posted 10 February, 2011 Posted 10 February, 2011 Only a matter of time before the skates make their move "faaack Spurs, faaack West Ham, faaack Orient, this is our manor and it's OUR stadium and you're need to stick another tier on top for our lot!"
stevegrant Posted 10 February, 2011 Posted 10 February, 2011 The problem for Orient with West Ham moving to Stratford is that West Ham won't even come close to filling it for most games, so they'll introduce thousands of discounted tickets for local schools, etc, to bump up the attendance figures. If locals have a choice between free/cheap tickets at Orient or West Ham, who are they going to choose?
Doctoroncall Posted 10 February, 2011 Posted 10 February, 2011 This still needs to be voted on but from the recommendation it's going to go to West Ham. Three things: I thought if a club wanted to move they need approval (although Wimbledon found it easy enough although there was no other league club at MK) The back seats may well be closer than the 80,000 capacity Wembley, but how much further away from the pitch will the front seats be? As this is a temporary multi-pupose stadium, i just can't imagine that it's going to be that good for any sports. I feel for the Orient fans, they have Hearn as a chairman and now this to deal with.
Saint Keith Posted 10 February, 2011 Posted 10 February, 2011 I thought if a club wanted to move they need approval (although Wimbledon found it easy enough although there was no other league club at MK) the olympic stadium is in the same council borough as upton park, Newham i think, so they have that one covered
Doctoroncall Posted 11 February, 2011 Posted 11 February, 2011 An article on it by the respected David Conn is worth a read
Lord Duckhunter Posted 11 February, 2011 Posted 11 February, 2011 Lord Sugar's just been on Talksport, quite scathing about the West Ham bid. Reckons they'll get rid of the track in a couple of years, claims "they're blowing more than bleeding bubbles", and they'll start backtracking on that committment.
angelman Posted 13 February, 2011 Posted 13 February, 2011 Seems that Leyton Orient are going to cause a problem. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1356428/West-Ham-face-Olympic-Stadium-fight-moving-Orients-patch.html Premier League Rule I.6.5, which governs stadium moves, states that the Premier League's board should agree to a change of home for one of their clubs only if the board are satisfied that a move 'would not adversely affect clubs (or Football League clubs) having their registered grounds in the immediate vicinity of the proposed location'. Orient, the closest club to the Olympic site, believe that no meaningful impact studies have been done and they fear that West Ham's intended discount pricing policy will severely damage their own attendance and income. I think that they have a very valid case. If WHU are going to give silly priced tickets out, then why would any "neutral" go to Brisbane Road? But the PL don't care and the politicians want a big club there to prevent it being a 100% white elephant. Seemingly they don't mind jeopardising the future of another club. Orient don't want the stadium but they don't want another club on top of them. Some other interesting articles: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/oct/07/west-ham-olympic-stadium-leyton-orient http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/olympics/even-leyton-orient-dont-want-to-inherit-olympic-arena-1242600.html http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/leyton-orient-join-olympic-stadium-debate-2193768.html
OVER THE HILL Posted 16 February, 2011 Posted 16 February, 2011 Orient chairman Barry Hearn has written a letter to Cameron asking him to look into the decision to allow West Ham's take over of the Olympic stadium. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympic_games/london_2012/9399361.stm The future looks bleak for them.
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