Legod Third Coming Posted 8 February, 2011 Share Posted 8 February, 2011 This is a good interview but you don't give interviews without an intent. It no more shows the future than staring into the bottom of my tea cup. If the club was up for sale, the last place you would read about it is the Daily Telegraph... I have no reason to doubt Cortese, but only lemmings follow without question and only zealots believe everything their messiah tells them. It's a good positive interview, but like his manager, let's judge him on results not on what he says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkySaint Posted 8 February, 2011 Share Posted 8 February, 2011 Just imagine how it would feel to be Cortese and what the buzz must feel like watching Saints doing so well and playing good football. A sun reading Liverpool fan (Yeah I know) tried to wind me up about the Le Tissier ticket fiasco the other week and I took no notice. I'll inform him about what Cortese did with the fax next time I see him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 8 February, 2011 Share Posted 8 February, 2011 In NC we have a bit of a gem. I can't believe how lucky we are to be honest. Just sit back and enjoy the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 9 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 9 February, 2011 Just imagine how it would feel to be Cortese and what the buzz must feel like watching Saints doing so well and playing good football. A sun reading Liverpool fan (Yeah I know) tried to wind me up about the Le Tissier ticket fiasco the other week and I took no notice. I'll inform him about what Cortese did with the fax next time I see him As Jim Royale would say: "Fax, my arse!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 9 February, 2011 Share Posted 9 February, 2011 after every interview nc does my admiration for how he is running the club increases. What a complete and utter change from the last few ignoramuses we've had at the helm. agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 9 February, 2011 Share Posted 9 February, 2011 Exactly. Why doesn't he just sit down with Cortese and work it out behind closed doors? Cortese did that with News Corp and came out of it ok. He backed down over the picture thing. Which shows he is someone who will go back on a decision and someone who will talk about a situation. How does speaking to the press to throw digs at Cortese accomplish that? It won't. MLT is a legend, will always be a legend. But the club is bigger then any fan,chairman or any player. He needs to do the honourable thing and talk to Cortese face to face, not through The Daily Mail. Yeh, but work what out? He isn't entitled to anything more than you or I now. He may have played for the club and achieved success for us, but WE have all paid for that and have kept the club going for X amount of years. I still think he is a God, but I think that NC is making the statement that he is an ex-employee and should be here anymore. He actually works for a Media organisation, and we all know NC doen't like leaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 9 February, 2011 Share Posted 9 February, 2011 In NC we have a bit of a gem. I can't believe how lucky we are to be honest. Just sit back and enjoy the ride. when you consider how some clubs are run (or should I say "mis-run") it's good to see someone who doesn't have to beg and scrape to the "big money Prem.clubs " and stand for some principles (whether we all understand or agree with them) but Nicola Cortese is ..as they say ..his own man, and shows some respect for his deceased friend Marcus Liebherr and his vision. Well done Mr.Chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 9 February, 2011 Share Posted 9 February, 2011 Excellent article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat Posted 9 February, 2011 Share Posted 9 February, 2011 This is a good interview but you don't give interviews without an intent. It no more shows the future than staring into the bottom of my tea cup. If the club was up for sale, the last place you would read about it is the Daily Telegraph... I have no reason to doubt Cortese, but only lemmings follow without question and only zealots believe everything their messiah tells them. It's a good positive interview, but like his manager, let's judge him on results not on what he says. I agree. That is the best judgment on this. Measure Cortese by what he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 9 February, 2011 Share Posted 9 February, 2011 I will say one thing and I speak as someone who fell out with Matt badly over the Pinnacle affair. If anyone is foolish enough to believe MLT is actually trying to destabilise this club they must be off their rocker. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 9 February, 2011 Share Posted 9 February, 2011 I'm inclined to agree with you, but what exactly is he trying to do, Duncan? The longer it goes on with these snipes, the more it fuels the allegation that there is a group out there trying to do something. In think you are queening it up a bit. The stuff MLT had said is harbly foundation shattering stuff, its mild snipes that have no effect on anything apart from tickling the root of people on here. I would have thought NC shoulders would be broad enough to to carry this crap, its a mild irritation at most not destabilising and not dark forces. Personally I think every one needs to calm down. We are in good hands and the view from the bus is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 9 February, 2011 Share Posted 9 February, 2011 In think you are queening it up a bit. The stuff MLT had said is harbly foundation shattering stuff, its mild snipes that have no effect on anything apart from tickling the root of people on here. I would have thought NC shoulders would be broad enough to to carry this crap, its a mild irritation at most not destabilising and not dark forces. Personally I think every one needs to calm down. We are in good hands and the view from the bus is fine. "Queening it up"? I asked a fairly simple question and I've yet to receive a reply. It's not just "mild snipes", it's what seems like a campaign of sniping. In the week that we were in the national/global spotlight for the first time in ages, a lot of the headlines were about this stuff. I resent it for four reasons. Firstly, it's a big and public negative in what's otherwise a sea of positives. Secondly, it's screwing with my memories because Le Tiss and McMenemy have always had - and always will have - hero status in my heart. Thirdly, it's not cooling down, it's escalating. And, fourthly, it's dividing the fan base and people on both sides are starting to say some pretty nasty things. That little package looks like a lot more than mild irritants to me, so now we start moving into the realms of the destabilization that Cortese (somewhat dramatically) says is happening in the background. While we've all seen the public front of this ill feeling, none of us has any idea of the face to face confrontations that have occurred in private. I suspect they were both numerous and ugly. You're right, everyone does need to calm down but the first step is to STFU with this stuff. That particular ball is more in the court of Le Tiss and McMenemy than it is in Cortese's; ditto for Benali but his is a different kind of court. On the other side, Nicola needs to be man enough to park the ego for a minute if he really wants this resolved and if he really is concerned about instability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 9 February, 2011 Share Posted 9 February, 2011 I can't fault NC's passion to get the job done. I wish he'd learn to explain himself better. Perhaps he needs a PR chap at Saints to advise him. I love his ambition but I'd hate to see him undermined because the press, footballing pundits, fans and ex Saints greats start a revolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 10 February, 2011 Share Posted 10 February, 2011 I will say one thing and I speak as someone who fell out with Matt badly over the Pinnacle affair. If anyone is foolish enough to believe MLT is actually trying to destabilise this club they must be off their rocker. I'd agree absolutely Duncan. MLT is one of those special former players with red and white running through his veins, and I think that the criticism levelled (rightly IMHO) against Pinnacle rubbed off on Matt as they had cojoled him into being their PR man. At the time Pinnacle looked a good bet (when considering the other runners) -except they didn't have any money. But it did seem that the "Administrator" gave them more than enough rope, whilst Marcus Liebherr had already put his money on the table in May? - but his bid was ignored. I think the disagreement between MLT and NC is a bit of a " handbags " thing, but nothing that couldn't be sensibly sorted over a glass or two of wine. Two (proud) men who really have the clubs welfare uppermost.. but look at the Saints from different perspectives. Get them togerther talking sensibly and it'd be a PR coup for the club on the level of Dalglish returning to 'pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 10 February, 2011 Share Posted 10 February, 2011 I'd agree absolutely Duncan. MLT is one of those special former players with red and white running through his veins, and I think that the criticism levelled (rightly IMHO) against Pinnacle rubbed off on Matt as they had cojoled him into being their PR man. At the time Pinnacle looked a good bet (when considering the other runners) -except they didn't have any money. But it did seem that the "Administrator" gave them more than enough rope, whilst Marcus Liebherr had already put his money on the table in May? - but his bid was ignored. I think the disagreement between MLT and NC is a bit of a " handbags " thing, but nothing that couldn't be sensibly sorted over a glass or two of wine. Two (proud) men who really have the clubs welfare uppermost.. but look at the Saints from different perspectives. Get them togerther talking sensibly and it'd be a PR coup for the club on the level of Dalglish returning to 'pool. red and white runs through all Spurs fans veins does it!! MLT is a great man but I wish he would draw a line under the pettiness and be above it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 10 February, 2011 Share Posted 10 February, 2011 red and white runs through all Spurs fans veins does it!! :facepalm: And in a post that is criticising petty behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 10 February, 2011 Share Posted 10 February, 2011 :facepalm: And in a post that is criticising petty behaviour. no as you love to do, point out the fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 February, 2011 Share Posted 10 February, 2011 no as you love to do, point out the fact. You are being extremely petty. MLT is a saints fan and is known as such to the general public (and I am certain would say so himself if asked.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 10 February, 2011 Share Posted 10 February, 2011 i suspect you should look in the mirror, there haven't been any polls to have me banned. It could be pointed out as petty as a long drawn out list of posts deciding whether someone was correct about whether something was a charity or not. The fact was UM pahars was correct and the ex saints were a charity, MLT has always stated he was a Spurs fan due to his regard of GH. There is no doubt he has a great love for SFC and the media portray him as a saints fan but i would not say his blood runs red and white like mine does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 10 February, 2011 Share Posted 10 February, 2011 i suspect you should look in the mirror, there haven't been any polls to have me banned. It could be pointed out as petty as a long drawn out list of posts deciding whether someone was correct about whether something was a charity or not. The fact was UM pahars was correct and the ex saints were a charity, MLT has always stated he was a Spurs fan due to his regard of GH. There is no doubt he has a great love for SFC and the media portray him as a saints fan but i would not say his blood runs red and white like mine does I guess Dalak is also a Spurs fan, if we use that criteria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 February, 2011 Share Posted 10 February, 2011 i suspect you should look in the mirror, there haven't been any polls to have me banned. A poll which I signed up to and encouraged. It could be pointed out as petty as a long drawn out list of posts deciding whether someone was correct about whether something was a charity or not. That wasn't petty, it was important that that point was clarified because it could potentially do damage to the charity. The fact was UM pahars was correct and the ex saints were a charity, MLT has always stated he was a Spurs fan due to his regard of GH. There is no doubt he has a great love for SFC and the media portray him as a saints fan but i would not say his blood runs red and white like mine does Unbelievable. I could not disagree more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 February, 2011 Share Posted 10 February, 2011 I guess Dalak is also a Spurs fan, if we use that criteria MLT's dad was a Spurs fan I think . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 10 February, 2011 Share Posted 10 February, 2011 i suspect you should look in the mirror, there haven't been any polls to have me banned. It could be pointed out as petty as a long drawn out list of posts deciding whether someone was correct about whether something was a charity or not. The fact was UM pahars was correct and the ex saints were a charity, MLT has always stated he was a Spurs fan due to his regard of GH. There is no doubt he has a great love for SFC and the media portray him as a saints fan but i would not say his blood runs red and white like mine does You obviously didn't see the story Sky Sports News did on Saints a few years ago when we were in the peak of the financial crisis and it was being reported we were within a week of going under etc. SSN played a video of Saints highlights from over the years (MLT magic goals, Beattie's goals, FA cup final footage from '76 and '03) to the music from 'As Time Goes By' and by the end of it MLT was visibly in tears. Jeff Stelling had to give him a few moments before asking for his take on what caused the financial crisis. He is a Saints fan through and through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 10 February, 2011 Share Posted 10 February, 2011 The other thread had deteriorated into a petty slanging match because it was side-tracked into other issues and became personal. That thread was closed because it was going nowhere. So what happens next? The pettiness and personal jibes are being transferred to this thread instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 February, 2011 Share Posted 10 February, 2011 The other thread had deteriorated into a petty slanging match because it was side-tracked into other issues and became personal. That thread was closed because it was going nowhere. So what happens next? The pettiness and personal jibes are being transferred to this thread instead. As the person who motivated most of the comments because of your lazy guernsey man comment, it's a bit rich of you to say something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 10 February, 2011 Share Posted 10 February, 2011 You obviously didn't see the story Sky Sports News did on Saints a few years ago when we were in the peak of the financial crisis and it was being reported we were within a week of going under etc. SSN played a video of Saints highlights from over the years (MLT magic goals, Beattie's goals, FA cup final footage from '76 and '03) to the music from 'As Time Goes By' and by the end of it MLT was visibly in tears. Jeff Stelling had to give him a few moments before asking for his take on what caused the financial crisis. He is a Saints fan through and through. I dont doubt he has great love for the club. Iam someone who paid 800 for one of his shirts and named our dog after the great man and so i hardly am sceptical about how good he was for us, a very great footballer and a man who did much for us in his playing days. As i had posted earlier a fan like myself would need to have a lot done for me to try and rock the boat so publicly, what would it take for you to hurt the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 10 February, 2011 Share Posted 10 February, 2011 As the person who motivated most of the comments because of your lazy guernsey man comment, it's a bit rich of you to say something like that. I didn't see you castigating those who resorted to much worse abuse towards Cortese, so don't you try and stand on any moral high ground. I made my remark to see whether those who dished it out could take it back. But it came as no surprise that they couldn't. It became clear that there could be no even-handed debate when people were only too ready to slag off one side, whilst not being willing to accept any criticism of the other side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 February, 2011 Share Posted 10 February, 2011 I didn't see you castigating those who resorted to much worse abuse towards Cortese, so don't you try and stand on any moral high ground. I made my remark to see whether those who dished it out could take it back. But it came as no surprise that they couldn't. It became clear that there could be no even-handed debate when people were only too ready to slag off one side, whilst not being willing to accept any criticism of the other side. I feel you are just as guilty of what you criticise others for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 10 February, 2011 Share Posted 10 February, 2011 I feel you are just as guilty of what you criticise others for. Well, as I only made the one remark, one incidentally that some others didn't take such umbrage too, some even agreeing with it, I thought that it was quite a mild comment. But I obviously hadn't realised that there are those on here who believe that because of what MLT did for us on the pitch, he is totally beyond criticism for what he does now that he been retired a few years. I'll be more circumspect in future. The next time that such xenophobic or racist claptrap or just puerile name-calling is aimed at Cortese, I'll just report it to the mods as inappropriate instead of retalliating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 10 February, 2011 Share Posted 10 February, 2011 It's all rather sad, really. Not just what's happening between Cortese, Le Tiss, McMenemy and Benali, but what was happening on here yesterday. It seems that certain elements of the fan base are as emotionally invested in this as the main protagonists, and now seem hell bent on inflaming it rather than resolving it. Until people start searching for a solution rather than a victory - at the club and on here - that will continue. If some of our posters can't back down after posting needless sh*t or acting as agents provocateurs in the debate, who the hell are we to expect those four to resolve things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 10 February, 2011 Share Posted 10 February, 2011 Well, as I only made the one remark, one incidentally that some others didn't take such umbrage too, some even agreeing with it, I thought that it was quite a mild comment. But I obviously hadn't realised that there are those on here who believe that because of what MLT did for us on the pitch, he is totally beyond criticism for what he does now that he been retired a few years. I'll be more circumspect in future. The next time that such xenophobic or racist claptrap or just puerile name-calling is aimed at Cortese, I'll just report it to the mods as inappropriate instead of retalliating. I dont think you realise you wind up people with some of your sanctimonous posting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 February, 2011 Share Posted 10 February, 2011 I dont think you realise you wind up people with some of your sanctimonous posting . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 February, 2011 Share Posted 10 February, 2011 It's all rather sad, really. Not just what's happening between Cortese, Le Tiss, McMenemy and Benali, but what was happening on here yesterday. It seems that certain elements of the fan base are as emotionally invested in this as the main protagonists, and now seem hell bent on inflaming it rather than resolving it. Until people start searching for a solution rather than a victory - at the club and on here - that will continue. If some of our posters can't back down after posting needless sh*t or acting as agents provocateurs in the debate, who the hell are we to expect those four to resolve things? What we do on here as no effect on what NC and the others do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 10 February, 2011 Share Posted 10 February, 2011 no as you love to do, point out the fact. I'm sure Matty did like Spurs when he was growing up and I don't doubt that there was a bit of man love there for Glenn Hoddle, but I do also think it is safe to say that Matty is a huge Saints fan. Like many others (including myself who liked Man City in the early 70's when I was 4 or 5 - mainly because my brother liked Man Utd) he may have come to Saints via a roundabout way, but we are all ultimately fans of the Club. I just think in the current *****fest where a decent charity are seen as fair game to have a pop at, it doesn't help having a pop at MLT and slagging him as he is now deemed to be a Spurs fan. It's the type of sniping that the main egos have been playing out, just don't think it's necessary for us all to be dragged down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 10 February, 2011 Share Posted 10 February, 2011 I'm sure Matty did like Spurs when he was growing up and I don't doubt that there was a bit of man love there for Glenn Hoddle, but I do also think it is safe to say that Matty is a huge Saints fan. Like many others (including myself who liked Man City in the early 70's when I was 4 or 5 - mainly because my brother liked Man Utd) he may have come to Saints via a roundabout way, but we are all ultimately fans of the Club. I just think in the current *****fest where a decent charity are seen as fair game to have a pop at, it doesn't help having a pop at MLT and slagging him as he is now deemed to be a Spurs fan. It's the type of sniping that the main egos have been playing out, just don't think it's necessary for us all to be dragged down. Show where Im slagging him for being a spurs fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 10 February, 2011 Share Posted 10 February, 2011 What we do on here as no effect on what NC and the others do. That's a cop-out, hypo - a weak rationale that people use for posting all kinds of stuff on here. It's also inaccurate because a lot more core people keep in touch with these media than some choose (or claim) to believe. But that wasn't my point, and you know it. My point was that there was a lot of needless, nasty sh*t on here yesterday, and the people posting it were hypocrites if they were b*tching about the Cortese, Le Tiss, McMenemy, Benali situation. Regardless of the "side" they took. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 10 February, 2011 Share Posted 10 February, 2011 I dont think you realise you wind up people with some of your sanctimonous posting I've always loved winding you up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 10 February, 2011 Share Posted 10 February, 2011 Boys, boys, look I realise all your ******** have dropped, but can you stop behaving like primary school kids with testosterone.. I actually came on here to comment on Liverpool's (apparently) lack of professionalism, . What were they thinking sending a fax, as if they were ordering more stationery from one of their existing suppliers, almost like an afterthought at the end of the transfer window? Complete disdain for the recipients and subject of the fax. Interesting also the comments about Wenger 'negotiating' through the press, and basically trying to upset the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 10 February, 2011 Share Posted 10 February, 2011 That's a cop-out, hypo - a weak rationale that people use for posting all kinds of stuff on here. It's also inaccurate because a lot more core people keep in touch with these media than some choose (or claim) to believe. But that wasn't my point, and you know it. My point was that there was a lot of needless, nasty sh*t on here yesterday, and the people posting it were hypocrites if they were b*tching about the Cortese, Le Tiss, McMenemy, Benali situation. Regardless of the "side" they took. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispypie Posted 10 February, 2011 Share Posted 10 February, 2011 Ah well, there was me thinking a bout of common sense and discussion about a topic had broken out on the forum!! Anyway........... I would much rather be in a position of deals falling through because it appears we have too much money, I cant remember EVER hearing that kind of statement before and god knows I been supporting for a fair while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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