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good post hes frothing at the mouth and has we all know that men cannot have babies but what a weird thread to start in the first place and why he hates elton i don,t know he sang some great songs.

i suppose its all the fault of liberals ,democrats,homos,women and secret agendas haha. bring back family values has cecil parkinson used to say.

 

How do you know i am frothing at the mouth? I'm actually chuckling to myself at the narrow mindedness on here and the leaping to accuse people of all sorts of things if they dont confirm to the mainstream view, it's hilarious, as is the hypocrisy.

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How do you know i am frothing at the mouth? I'm actually chuckling to myself at the narrow mindedness on here

 

Exactly mate. Some people don't get satire, do they?

 

As Turkish says, he was only pretending to be stupid to highlight the daftness of such an argument that would oppose this gay adoption on grounds of it being "unnatural". Anyone with a brain could see that. It was very clever of Turkish, but did you lot really, honestly think he is actually that dumb as to really believe what he has been saying?

 

Idiots.

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Exactly mate. Some people don't get satire, do they?

 

As Turkish says, he was only pretending to be stupid to highlight the daftness of such an argument that would oppose this gay adoption on grounds of it being "unnatural". Anyone with a brain could see that. It was very clever of Turkish, but did you lot really, honestly think he is actually that dumb as to really believe what he has been saying?

 

Idiots.

 

Made me chuckle. I've been an idiot all along.

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How do you know i am frothing at the mouth? I'm actually chuckling to myself at the narrow mindedness on here and the leaping to accuse people of all sorts of things if they dont confirm to the mainstream view, it's hilarious, as is the hypocrisy.

 

yes you don,t confirm the mainstream view:lol: but never mind you and dune just misunderstood people far to clever for us narrow minded people:rolleyes:

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Exactly mate. Some people don't get satire, do they?

 

As Turkish says, he was only pretending to be stupid to highlight the daftness of such an argument that would oppose this gay adoption on grounds of it being "unnatural". Anyone with a brain could see that. It was very clever of Turkish, but did you lot really, honestly think he is actually that dumb as to really believe what he has been saying?

 

Idiots.

 

yes we did not realise what a great and clever man he by pretending to be stupid to fall us all,him and stanley are way to clever for us simpletons.

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yes you don,t confirm the mainstream view:lol: but never mind you and dune just misunderstood people far to clever for us narrow minded people:rolleyes:

 

I find you all hilarious. You preach liberalism and freeness of speech, but only if its what you consider to be correct. A superbly arrogant and contradictory post came from our resident clown Verbal who claimed judging people is only for Saints (holy ones not footballl ones), yet then goes on to criticise and patronise at every opportunity. We've had the people that wrote the bible, the very basis of our christian society called knuckle draggers. I've been accused of being a racist and supporting the EDL because i've taken your liberal view that they have a right to a voice. I've been accused of being homophobic in a truely bizarre post for saying that a man would find a woman attractive to want to have sex with her. And our most recent contributor Mr SOlentStars fails to offer any opinion on any topic whatsoever, his only contribution (using this expression in its broadest possible sense) is an incedibly poor attempt at humour and **** taking. It's been fun the last few days and i think its confirmed the thought that this forum is full of wierdos who continually contradict themselves and will ignore everything possible regardless of how blatent it is in a desperate attempt to fit in with everyone else. Most of you need to stop getting yourselves at it and get a grip.

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I find you all hilarious. You preach liberalism and freeness of speech, but only if its what you consider to be correct. A superbly arrogant and contradictory post came from our resident clown Verbal who claimed judging people is only for Saints (holy ones not footballl ones), yet then goes on to criticise and patronise at every opportunity. We've had the people that wrote the bible, the very basis of our christian society called knuckle draggers. I've been accused of being a racist and supporting the EDL because i've taken your liberal view that they have a right to a voice. I've been accused of being homophobic in a truely bizarre post for saying that a man would find a woman attractive to want to have sex with her. And our most recent contributor Mr SOlentStars fails to offer any opinion on any topic whatsoever, his only contribution (using this expression in its broadest possible sense) is an incedibly poor attempt at humour and **** taking. It's been fun the last few days and i think its confirmed the thought that this forum is full of wierdos who continually contradict themselves and will ignore everything possible regardless of how blatent it is in a desperate attempt to fit in with everyone else. Most of you need to stop getting yourselves at it and get a grip.

 

Good one! ;)

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I find you all hilarious. You preach liberalism and freeness of speech, but only if its what you consider to be correct. A superbly arrogant and contradictory post came from our resident clown Verbal who claimed judging people is only for Saints (holy ones not footballl ones), yet then goes on to criticise and patronise at every opportunity. We've had the people that wrote the bible, the very basis of our christian society called knuckle draggers. I've been accused of being a racist and supporting the EDL because i've taken your liberal view that they have a right to a voice. I've been accused of being homophobic in a truely bizarre post for saying that a man would find a woman attractive to want to have sex with her. And our most recent contributor Mr SOlentStars fails to offer any opinion on any topic whatsoever, his only contribution (using this expression in its broadest possible sense) is an incedibly poor attempt at humour and **** taking. It's been fun the last few days and i think its confirmed the thought that this forum is full of wierdos who continually contradict themselves and will ignore everything possible regardless of how blatent it is in a desperate attempt to fit in with everyone else. Most of you need to stop getting yourselves at it and get a grip.

 

The issue in all this isn't freedom of speech, or any of your other paranoid fantasies. It's about your COLOSSAL need to stand in high judgement over the actions of every Tom, D!ck and Elton. It's not just that your moral pronouncements - because that's what they're not - amount to absolutely nothing. They indicate a desperate, immature need to lord it over everyone. We're all expected to sign up to your extremely comical moral universe - a pick-n-mix of the Daily Mail, the News of the Screws, the 1950s and (oh. my. god!) delldays.

 

The reason you generate so much heat is that many see you as the bully-behind-the-bike-sheds with his fag-end friends. Elton is just the latest figure you want burned at the stake so that you can get your cathartic thrills - above all, of being vindicated in your visceral hatred of anything or anyone who doesn't fit in with your cosy, microcosmically tiny world.

 

As I say, calm down. You'll do yourself a mischief.

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The issue in all this isn't freedom of speech, or any of your other paranoid fantasies. It's about your COLOSSAL need to stand in high judgement over the actions of every Tom, D!ck and Elton. It's not just that your moral pronouncements - because that's what they're not - amount to absolutely nothing. They indicate a desperate, immature need to lord it over everyone. We're all expected to sign up to your extremely comical moral universe - a pick-n-mix of the Daily Mail, the News of the Screws, the 1950s and (oh. my. god!) delldays.

 

The reason you generate so much heat is that many see you as the bully-behind-the-bike-sheds with his fag-end friends. Elton is just the latest figure you want burned at the stake so that you can get your cathartic thrills - above all, of being vindicated in your visceral hatred of anything or anyone who doesn't fit in with your cosy, microcosmically tiny world.

 

As I say, calm down. You'll do yourself a mischief.

 

Quite an ironic post

 

PS You lot are hilarious.

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The issue in all this isn't freedom of speech, or any of your other paranoid fantasies. It's about your COLOSSAL need to stand in high judgement over the actions of every Tom, D!ck and Elton. It's not just that your moral pronouncements - because that's what they're not - amount to absolutely nothing. They indicate a desperate, immature need to lord it over everyone. We're all expected to sign up to your extremely comical moral universe - a pick-n-mix of the Daily Mail, the News of the Screws, the 1950s and (oh. my. god!) delldays.

 

The reason you generate so much heat is that many see you as the bully-behind-the-bike-sheds with his fag-end friends. Elton is just the latest figure you want burned at the stake so that you can get your cathartic thrills - above all, of being vindicated in your visceral hatred of anything or anyone who doesn't fit in with your cosy, microcosmically tiny world.

 

As I say, calm down. You'll do yourself a mischief.

 

That post could easily have been written about you, not by you.

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The issue in all this isn't freedom of speech, or any of your other paranoid fantasies. It's about your COLOSSAL need to stand in high judgement over the actions of every Tom, D!ck and Elton. It's not just that your moral pronouncements - because that's what they're not - amount to absolutely nothing. They indicate a desperate, immature need to lord it over everyone. We're all expected to sign up to your extremely comical moral universe - a pick-n-mix of the Daily Mail, the News of the Screws, the 1950s and (oh. my. god!) delldays.

 

The reason you generate so much heat is that many see you as the bully-behind-the-bike-sheds with his fag-end friends. Elton is just the latest figure you want burned at the stake so that you can get your cathartic thrills - above all, of being vindicated in your visceral hatred of anything or anyone who doesn't fit in with your cosy, microcosmically tiny world.

 

As I say, calm down. You'll do yourself a mischief.

 

i think turkish is related to dune their both thick skinned and i expect both bumping up their silly threads by being pretending to be dumb attention seekers but at least we are all having a good laugh about them.

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thats the hilarious thing, too narrow minded and arrogant to see it.

 

That post could easily have been written about you, not by you. In fact, I'm just going to write it about you anyway.

 

That's the hilarious thing, too narrow minded and arrogant to see it. With a mote beam mechanism that is going crazy apesh*t bonkers at the moment.

 

Please don't ever get yourself banned, Turkish. You are a brilliant SWF poster and one of the reasons I keep coming back here.

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i think turkish is related to dune their both thick skinned and i expect both bumping up their silly threads by being pretending to be dumb attention seekers but at least we are all having a good laugh about them.

 

I think you are related to Verbal as you are both f*cking knobs, but at least we are having a good laugh at you.

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The issue in all this isn't freedom of speech, or any of your other paranoid fantasies. It's about your COLOSSAL need to stand in high judgement over the actions of every Tom, D!ck and Elton. It's not just that your moral pronouncements - because that's what they're not - amount to absolutely nothing. They indicate a desperate, immature need to lord it over everyone. We're all expected to sign up to your extremely comical moral universe - a pick-n-mix of the Daily Mail, the News of the Screws, the 1950s and (oh. my. god!) delldays.

 

The reason you generate so much heat is that many see you as the bully-behind-the-bike-sheds with his fag-end friends. Elton is just the latest figure you want burned at the stake so that you can get your cathartic thrills - above all, of being vindicated in your visceral hatred of anything or anyone who doesn't fit in with your cosy, microcosmically tiny world.

 

As I say, calm down. You'll do yourself a mischief.

 

Comrade Verbal speaks, but struggles to see the irony in that he is in fact talking about himself. The first to label people on here racist, sexist or homophobic. His delivery oozing self righteousness and often aggressive in tone.

 

As for Elton, it is a quite legitamate view to feel very uneasy when two old men, who certainly would be allowed to adopt, fail try to bring back a baby from the Ukraine on a whim so opt to go to the States and buy one.

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Comrade Verbal speaks, but struggles to see the irony in that he is in fact talking about himself. The first to label people on here racist, sexist or homophobic. His delivery oozing self righteousness and often aggressive in tone.

 

As for Elton, it is a quite legitamate view to feel very uneasy when two old men, who certainly would be allowed to adopt, fail try to bring back a baby from the Ukraine on a whim so opt to go to the States and buy one.

 

Whilst undoubtedly money has been paid to the surrogate mother, Elton John provided the sperm to fertilise her eggs.

 

No different to the method used by Michael Jackson.

 

The difference is, I think, that EJ will make a much better father than MJ ever did.

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Whilst undoubtedly money has been paid to the surrogate mother, Elton John provided the sperm to fertilise her eggs.

 

No different to the method used by Michael Jackson.

 

The difference is, I think, that EJ will make a much better father than MJ ever did.

 

BTF do you think that MJ was right. The whole episode in the Ukraine was quite unsavoury.

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BTF do you think that MJ was right. The whole episode in the Ukraine was quite unsavoury.

 

Do I think MJ was right about what? I don't understand your question, sorry. Oh and BTW, in your earlier post you talked about 'two old men'. I don't think David Furnish is 'old'. I know lots of men who became fathers at a much older age.

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Do I think MJ was right about what? I don't understand your question, sorry. Oh and BTW, in your earlier post you talked about 'two old men'. I don't think David Furnish is 'old'. I know lots of men who became fathers at a much older age.

 

He's not actually the 'father', is he, EJ is, is the media is to be believed. As to being better than MJ, time will tell, MJ was supposed to have been the answer, when he had his 'first' child!

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He's not actually the 'father', is he, EJ is, is the media is to be believed. As to being better than MJ, time will tell, MJ was supposed to have been the answer, when he had his 'first' child!

 

Of course. My point was that it's incorrect to label them as 'two old men' when one is in his early 60s and the other in his 40s. I should have used the word 'parent' instead of 'father ' in this instance. But I still know of plenty of men who became fathers at an older age than either of these two.

 

Generally, we tend to say 'well done' to a man who becomes a parent in his 60s (although we're not quite so generous with our praise for women who become parents once they're over 50).

 

I'm the same age as EJ and I spend two or three days a week looking after my young grandchildren. I think I carry out that caring role at least as well as I did raising my own children when I was in my 20s.

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My favourite so far have been those who are making a judgement on this based on a 'moral crusade' - how it goes against the bais of our 'christian values' that have been around for about 2000 years... jeez. 'Civilised and intelligent societies' evole. They learn. They grow up and recognise that dogma created in the past when less was known or understood, needs to be viewed in that context. It has feck all to do with PC, or PC gone mad or following what everybody else thinks. Read what you just said. 50 years ago, Elton could not even come out without ending up in Jail, 30 years ago the majority laught at 'love thy neighbour' and the 'Black and White' minstrals - Now teh majority find these things apalling because society has 'learned and grown up' - Feck all to do with liberalism, but the main positive that sets humans apart from the less evolved animals - that we can 'think' and react quickly to wrongs in society, learn from teh mistakes of the past and move forward.

 

Yes there are a generation who struggle to adapt - old dogs and new tricks springs to mind, but they are now in the minority. You talk about rights and fredoms to express your opinions. Yes that is the benefit you have as a result of a more civilised and demographic society. But as Joenssu put very well, if that right is used to shout down teh rights of others - then quite rightly it should be exposed for the ignorant, bogoted bullshiedt that it is, and those expressing it shown to be what they are - unitelligent morons - because the message they spout is no longer acceptable in a 'grown up' and civilised society.

 

A few hundred years ago, you could marry your 12 year old cousin legally, now that is unacceptable on two counts, the underage element and the close realationship element that has been shown with advance of genetics to account for deliterious recessive gene combinations causing major problems in any offspring... we learn, we move on and society is better for it. In effect what some of you seem to be spouting is that you would defend someones's right to marry their 12 year old cousin because that is their view, even if society in general thnks it a bad thing? - It's basedsame principle based on the garbage that you are spouting Turkish.

 

But perhaps the 'moral' is the most worrying - because there is sadly nothing worse IMHO than blindly following a 'moral code' whoever wrote it , 2000 years ago, and accepting it verse and line a something that is ALL correct today - yes there are good things about that 'christian' moral - but there is also planty in there that is made up and no longer valid in a society that has learned, grown and matured. Afterall the good book tells us its fine to sleep with our wives' unmarried sisters if our wives are 'barren' - see if that gets past your missus as an excuse! (Oh and before you tell me that its not right to pick and shoose which bits of this moral code we can keep and thsoe we can ignore.... the churches have been doing that ever since they could no longer frighten folk with hell and damnation - and how they suddlenly flip to saying its no longer literal, but metaphorical... seems they want to have their cake and eat it.....

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My favourite so far have been those who are making a judgement on this based on a 'moral crusade' - how it goes against the bais of our 'christian values' that have been around for about 2000 years... jeez. 'Civilised and intelligent societies' evole. They learn. They grow up and recognise that dogma created in the past when less was known or understood, needs to be viewed in that context. It has feck all to do with PC, or PC gone mad or following what everybody else thinks. Read what you just said. 50 years ago, Elton could not even come out without ending up in Jail, 30 years ago the majority laught at 'love thy neighbour' and the 'Black and White' minstrals - Now teh majority find these things apalling because society has 'learned and grown up' - Feck all to do with liberalism, but the main positive that sets humans apart from the less evolved animals - that we can 'think' and react quickly to wrongs in society, learn from teh mistakes of the past and move forward.

 

Yes there are a generation who struggle to adapt - old dogs and new tricks springs to mind, but they are now in the minority. You talk about rights and fredoms to express your opinions. Yes that is the benefit you have as a result of a more civilised and demographic society. But as Joenssu put very well, if that right is used to shout down teh rights of others - then quite rightly it should be exposed for the ignorant, bogoted bullshiedt that it is, and those expressing it shown to be what they are - unitelligent morons - because the message they spout is no longer acceptable in a 'grown up' and civilised society.

 

A few hundred years ago, you could marry your 12 year old cousin legally, now that is unacceptable on two counts, the underage element and the close realationship element that has been shown with advance of genetics to account for deliterious recessive gene combinations causing major problems in any offspring... we learn, we move on and society is better for it. In effect what some of you seem to be spouting is that you would defend someones's right to marry their 12 year old cousin because that is their view, even if society in general thnks it a bad thing? - It's basedsame principle based on the garbage that you are spouting Turkish.

 

But perhaps the 'moral' is the most worrying - because there is sadly nothing worse IMHO than blindly following a 'moral code' whoever wrote it , 2000 years ago, and accepting it verse and line a something that is ALL correct today - yes there are good things about that 'christian' moral - but there is also planty in there that is made up and no longer valid in a society that has learned, grown and matured. Afterall the good book tells us its fine to sleep with our wives' unmarried sisters if our wives are 'barren' - see if that gets past your missus as an excuse! (Oh and before you tell me that its not right to pick and shoose which bits of this moral code we can keep and thsoe we can ignore.... the churches have been doing that ever since they could no longer frighten folk with hell and damnation - and how they suddlenly flip to saying its no longer literal, but metaphorical... seems they want to have their cake and eat it.....

 

I am sure some of them would defend this right, being liberal minded people, that have created this society.

 

BTW, any chance of putting your posts in bullet point format next time?

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I am sure some of them would defend this right, being liberal minded people, that have created this society.

 

BTW, any chance of putting your posts in bullet point format next time?

 

Did he say anything interesting?

 

I never read Franks posts you see.

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