Spudders Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 IMO Cortese is enjoying the challenge and the Liebherr family are very discreetly backing him. Markus was a quiet but determined man, who did not court publicity. I believe the family are simply carrying on that tradition. We will get to the promised land, but it will be in a sensible and sustainable fashion. Long may our association with Liebherr and Cortese continue ! Great post, absolutely spot on. Whilst these sort of stories are mildly irritating, I would be gobsmacked if the Liebherr family sold the club. 1) It was the wish of their dying father that they progressed with his plans 2) They got to where they are by being good business people. Why sell something you own (and can easily afford to continue to fund) when you know that you can make it worth more in 4 or 5 years time. We should just ignore these stories, does it matter where they come from? Eventually the source will either get found out or get bored and realised that the club is bigger than they are.
Leslie Charteris Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 Vacuous speculation, probably based on some rich t*sser (sorry, banker) gossip.
skintsaint Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 if we are worth 50m now...we would be worth double that in the Prem...why sell now?
Red and White Army Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 if we are worth 50m now...we would be worth double that in the Prem...why sell now? Presumably because there is little chance of us getting to the Premiership - football is not a game club owners get into to make money! Saints are presumably not the passion of whoever now owns us, sadly that passion from the owners died when Markus passed away.
JustMike Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 Presumably because there is little chance of us getting to the Premiership - football is not a game club owners get into to make money! Saints are presumably not the passion of whoever now owns us, sadly that passion from the owners died when Markus passed away. whats happened to make you think that?
ericofarabia Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 Just had a look down the back of the sofa ... and can now confirm that I am not part of the 50 million quid financing deal. HTH
Johnny Bognor Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 I hope you all realise what you've done. There will be a "Saints Takeover Thread" started on the pompey board and you know what happened to them since we started their takeover thread!!
Foxstone Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 Why is it a good thing ? You want the club to be some rich Arab's plaything ? Personally, I think we have ideal owners, a rich European family, and want to see it stay like that. Hear Hear !
Gingeletiss Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 Presumably because there is little chance of us getting to the Premiership - football is not a game club owners get into to make money! Saints are presumably not the passion of whoever now owns us, sadly that passion from the owners died when Markus passed away. You know this to be a fact, How?
Wade Garrett Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 (edited) Don't think that Arabs automatically mean having sh*t loads of money being thrown at you. The company I work for were taken over by Arabs, they have invested about f*ck all in us, and are dragging their feet over an investment that would virtually ensure our future for the next 40 years. They haven't got a clue about the industry they're in either. Based on personal experience (and not a racist view), I wouldn't want them near us. Edited 7 February, 2011 by Wade Garrett
Red and White Army Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 You know this to be a fact, How? Well, given we have little idea who owns us what do you think the chances are that they just happen to be a Saints fan? Pretty minimal I would think. Football clubs are a great way for owners to **** away money.. but what are the chances the new owners are as passionate about Saints as Markus was?
Foxstone Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 Don't think that Arabs automatically mean having sh*t loads of money being thrown at you. The company I work for were taken over by Arabs, they have invested about f*ck all in us, and are dragging their feet over an investment that would virtually ensure our future for the next 40 years. They haven't got a clue about the industry they're in either. Based on personal experience (and not a racist view), I wouldn't want them near us. Agree We only have to learn the lessons from the portakabin folk down at Fartton.. Orgasmically introducing one arab owner to take them to the next level - Downwards... Then introducing another one who did not seem to exist - And down they went further ! Arabs with no money only wanting the kudos ! I trust the Liebherr Family and NC to have the clubs best interests at heart - I don't think I would ever feel that about mysterious arab consortiums !
Cabrone Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 Why is this such an outrageous article? Seems to me that if someone posts something that the posters don't like they just put their fingers in their ears and dismiss it out of hand. The fact is we are now owned by people who didn't buy us in the first place and as far as I know haven't really showed much interest in us since ML died. We are also an extremely attractive investment to someone with pots of money who fancies buying a football club that has massive potential. I really really hope the Liebherr's stay on at the helm as they have been nothing but good news for SFC but football clubs, just like everything else, have their price and they will sell if offered the correct amount. To dismiss this fact just because you don't like it is childish. PS: Lawrie Mac was our greatest ever manager and just because he did an interview with the Mail pre the Man Unt game it doesn't mean anything. The unsubstanciated slagging he gets on here from certain 'fans' is disgusting.
dubai_phil Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 Don't think that Arabs automatically mean having sh*t loads of money being thrown at you. The company I work for were taken over by Arabs, they have invested about f*ck all in us, and are dragging their feet over an investment that would virtually ensure our future for the next 40 years. They haven't got a clue about the industry they're in either. Based on personal experience (and not a racist view), I wouldn't want them near us. Arabs. A race covering a Geographic area well in excess of the EU stemming from The Atlantic to the Indian Oceans, with many differing tribal, culturual, geo-political and financial circumstances. You sound like if you're a small company you were taken over by a dodgy geezer, or if a bigger operation sucked up by the Dubai World Domination mess. If it's the latter then my sympathies as you really are screwed, and you're really not alone in the world. FWIW, there would be some ME based investors down this way which COULD be beneficial to the club, the Qataris for one. (Not a wealth fund or individual) but something like the Qatar Foundation or the Aspire Academy. QF pumped $150mil or there abouts into sponsoring Barcelona, AA are building a global network of Sporting Excellence training facilities for youngsters. That is one piece of our operation that could make a a big difference - continuing to have real money behind the club but also having zillions put into to a global network of Academy type structures picking up the future Drogba's & Torres's from around the world. Nice idea, won't happen though Let's face it, Saints aren't going to be bought for use as a Branding Exercise to promote tourism & an Airline ala Man Citeh
Wade Garrett Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 Arabs. A race covering a Geographic area well in excess of the EU stemming from The Atlantic to the Indian Oceans, with many differing tribal, culturual, geo-political and financial circumstances. You sound like if you're a small company you were taken over by a dodgy geezer, or if a bigger operation sucked up by the Dubai World Domination mess. If it's the latter then my sympathies as you really are screwed, and you're really not alone in the world. FWIW, there would be some ME based investors down this way which COULD be beneficial to the club, the Qataris for one. (Not a wealth fund or individual) but something like the Qatar Foundation or the Aspire Academy. QF pumped $150mil or there abouts into sponsoring Barcelona, AA are building a global network of Sporting Excellence training facilities for youngsters. That is one piece of our operation that could make a a big difference - continuing to have real money behind the club but also having zillions put into to a global network of Academy type structures picking up the future Drogba's & Torres's from around the world. Nice idea, won't happen though Let's face it, Saints aren't going to be bought for use as a Branding Exercise to promote tourism & an Airline ala Man Citeh It is the latter. They are the majority (51%) shareholder in our company, and hopefully will be bought out by the other. If they had to rely on their entreprenaurial skills, rather than oil, they would be worth jack sh*t.
dune Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 Why is this such an outrageous article? Seems to me that if someone posts something that the posters don't like they just put their fingers in their ears and dismiss it out of hand. The fact is we are now owned by people who didn't buy us in the first place and as far as I know haven't really showed much interest in us since ML died. We are also an extremely attractive investment to someone with pots of money who fancies buying a football club that has massive potential. I really really hope the Liebherr's stay on at the helm as they have been nothing but good news for SFC but football clubs, just like everything else, have their price and they will sell if offered the correct amount. To dismiss this fact just because you don't like it is childish. You should realise by now that that's what they're like on here. It's the same with speculation about our better players. I think they're mostly naive teenagers. They can get very agressive about such things so I will say no more on the matter.
St_Tel49 Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 Why is this such an outrageous article? Seems to me that if someone posts something that the posters don't like they just put their fingers in their ears and dismiss it out of hand. The fact is we are now owned by people who didn't buy us in the first place and as far as I know haven't really showed much interest in us since ML died. We are also an extremely attractive investment to someone with pots of money who fancies buying a football club that has massive potential. I really really hope the Liebherr's stay on at the helm as they have been nothing but good news for SFC but football clubs, just like everything else, have their price and they will sell if offered the correct amount. To dismiss this fact just because you don't like it is childish. PS: Lawrie Mac was our greatest ever manager and just because he did an interview with the Mail pre the Man Unt game it doesn't mean anything. The unsubstantiated slagging he gets on here from certain 'fans' is disgusting. Perhaps because NC has already addressed the issue. He has categorically said that the family are continuing to support him and if there was any point at which they didn't (emphasizing that this was unlikely) he had a back up in place for alternative finance. To ignore that in favour of some old flapdoodle foisted on you by a paper with a dodgy record for accuracy seems to me to be plain naive.
St_Tel49 Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 (edited) You should realise by now that that's what they're like on here. It's the same with speculation about our better players. I think they're mostly naive teenagers. They can get very agressive about such things so I will say no more on the matter. Yes - and look at how accurate the newspapers turned out to be on that! Edited 7 February, 2011 by St_Tel49
dubai_phil Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 It is the latter. They are the majority (51%) shareholder in our company, and hopefully will be bought out by the other. If they had to rely on their entreprenaurial skills, rather than oil, they would be worth jack sh*t. If they had entreprenurial skills I wouldn't have been able to have had a career down here Although, to be fair to them, Emirates is well run (because they're all ex BA managers from back in the 80').
Charlie Wayman Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 Everyone's missing the point that at least Saints are newsworthy once again even if this is yet another mischief making piece, which they have not been for years. £50m eh?
Lighthouse Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 Everyone's missing the point that at least Saints are newsworthy once again even if this is yet another mischief making piece, which they have not been for years. £50m eh? How is that the point? We're talking about issues which could effect the club and it's finances at the top level and you're more worried about getting a 2 page spread in the Dailly Heil?
Tom & Gerry Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 Shouldn't we be more worried if no one wanted to buy us?
BARCELONASAINT Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 yours is the pathetic comment trying to turn Alpines post into a racist comment. He is factaul in his comments, the article states ARAB interest, we are owned by a EUROPEAN family....where is his racism,get a life, political correctness gone mad!!!
bridge too far Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 Just been mentioned on BBC South Today. But only to say that the club hasn't commented on the rumours.
damers Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 Solent Twitter Understand Southampton FC Not for sale despite reports of a £50 Million takeover bid.
Saint Charlie Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 Solent Twitter Understand Southampton FC Not for sale despite reports of a £50 Million takeover bid. That the official line from Cortese then. Close this thread.
Saint Charlie Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 Nicola Cortese should publish his own southampton fc newspaper and bring an end to all the bullsh1t. Why should he have to? No other Chairman does.
solentstars Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 Daily Mail = Daily Liar i agree i,m surprised how people take that paper serious especially after being a supporters of hitler during the war years . it should be called a hate paper.
solentstars Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 yours is the pathetic comment trying to turn Alpines post into a racist comment. He is factaul in his comments, the article states ARAB interest, we are owned by a EUROPEAN family....where is his racism,get a life, political correctness gone mad!!! political correctness makes a nice catchphrase
The9 Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 Why should he have to? No other Chairman does. Cos he's a wacky foreign businessman who doesn't adhere to English footballing convention and specialises in not bothering to manage expectations, so it might be nice to at least be able to deconstruct some excuses.
JustMike Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 Cos he's a wacky foreign businessman who doesn't adhere to English footballing convention and specialises in not bothering to manage expectations, so it might be nice to at least be able to deconstruct some excuses. Thing is though, he has come out and stated the intentions,through that solent video he did and in the fans dinners he has set up and yet still people question it choosing to believe the rags
The9 Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 i agree i,m surprised how people take that paper serious especially after being a supporters of hitler during the war years . it should be called a hate paper. Lots of people in the UK thought plenty of the tenets of national socialism were a good idea in principle. It's just the whole ethnic cleansing bit and massive genocides that got a bit tricky for people to reconcile. Hardly surprising that an English paper took a view of conciliation to the Nazis rather than going back to war so soon after the horrors of the Great War, and especially when that nice Mr Hitler offered Britain the chance to keep its Empire in exchange for Germany getting control of Europe. It's also got bugger all to do with their methods of demonising anyone and anything to sell newspapers to the fearful and semi-stupid nowadays, half the time contradicting themselves on a daily basis.
The9 Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 Thing is though, he has come out and stated the intentions,through that solent video he did and in the fans dinners he has set up and yet still people question it choosing to believe the rags Some people don't believe either.
Fan The Flames Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 I see the muppets on here foaming at the mouth over Lawrie Mac because of a rumour he may have started a rumour, *****s the lot of them.
trousers Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/9390098.stm
trousers Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 That the official line from Cortese then. Close this thread. Hypotheseis alert... IF Cortese was in negotiations to sell the club and a 'leak' appeared in a national newspaper would you: (a) admit that you were in discussions with people to sell the club OR (b) issue a 'club source' denial that there are any such discussions ?
hypochondriac Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 I see the muppets on here foaming at the mouth over Lawrie Mac because of a rumour he may have started a rumour, *****s the lot of them. It is amusing that some have dismissed this totally as b*llocks yet in the same breath denounce Lawrie for starting the rumour!
Thedelldays Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 It is amusing that some have dismissed this totally as b*llocks yet in the same breath denounce Lawrie for starting the rumour! funny how you wont take the chairmans word for it that the club it not for sale.....funny that
hypochondriac Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 funny how you wont take the chairmans word for it that the club it not for sale.....funny that That has nothing to do with people dismissing this as b*llocks yet denouncing Lawrie in the same breath.
bridge too far Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/9390098.stm Bless - I wonder when superspy will learn to cut and paste links
trousers Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 Bless - I wonder when superspy will learn to cut and paste links Que?
JustMike Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 That has nothing to do with people dismissing this as b*llocks yet denouncing Lawrie in the same breath. but it is ********
hypochondriac Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 but it is ******** Can you not see how hypocritical it is to dismiss this 'rumour' yet make up another rumour that Lawrie is behind this article and totally believe it?
John B Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 I have no idea if this report is true but I do agree that SFC is a good investment and ML got a bargain To progress in the PL we need a lot of investment which ML may have paid out but I am not sure his family are that committed so an Arab Owner could possibly be a good thing but who knows what is going to happen. So I am not anti any takeover
BGF Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 BBC South just said that Southampton FC havn't commented about the possible takeover.
Matthew Le God Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 (edited) I have no idea if this report is true but I do agree that SFC is a good investment and ML got a bargain To progress in the PL we need a lot of investment which ML may have paid out but I am not sure his family are that committed so an Arab Owner could possibly be a good thing but who knows what is going to happen. So I am not anti any takeover Based on what exactly? The club is still spending money on players, Cortese has said they are still fully behind the project and the club has since Markus' death submitted plans for a training ground upgrade that is three times the cost of the original plans. Edited 7 February, 2011 by Matthew Le God
Andoverian Posted 7 February, 2011 Posted 7 February, 2011 I have no idea if this report is true but I do agree that SFC is a good investment and ML got a bargain To progress in the PL we need a lot of investment which ML may have paid out but I am not sure his family are that committed so an Arab Owner could possibly be a good thing but who knows what is going to happen. So I am not anti any takeover Exactly my view. I have been almost a voice in the wilderness when I have made the point that owning Saints is probably not the big deal that some would believe to the present owners. I am less than sure that the present ownership is the best thing for this club and my view on NC is well known. He makes me very uneasy by the way he works on a day to day basis. If the club was sold to rich Arab owners, and it might be absolute rubbish, it would not bother me in the slightest.
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