Gingeletiss Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 I love the "If they're Arabs they can f**k off" type posts, purely because I can guarantee if an Arab came along and said "We will spend s**t loads to make sure we get to the prem, and then win the champions league"...... everyone would be estatic. Yeh right! just like they did down the road. Some of you live on cloud cuckoo imo
scott_saints Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 Yeh right! just like they did down the road. Some of you live on cloud cuckoo imo Sorry, but if some arabs turned up and guaranteed to "Do a Man City".........this forum would be in meltdown with excitement.
LostBoys Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 Saints up for sale - shock horror - oh its the Daily Mail. I cannot believe Lawrie McEnemy would be supid or bitter enough to put his name to this.
dubai_phil Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 Ooh ooh Middle East interests wants to buy Saints, the same week Tiger Woods makes his return down here. Did they find an old copy of a TSW Forum Match Programme Notes? Or was it because I told you that Eric & I had found nearly 50 Dirhams down the back of our sofas two years ago. Looks like the Mail misread Dirhams for millions Cannot be the Dark Forces, Green Shield Stamps wouldn't be any use to buy and air ticket down this way... unless Oh of course, It's Hosni's emergency escape plan, buy a club get a residence visa. Quick, someone mail him Storrie's mob number
JustMike Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 (edited) Could be a good thing. Seems to confirm there is some substance in the rumours that have been around since the summer. No doubt because it isn't what some want to hear it will be dismissed as b*llocks by most. Daily Mail.....enough said! no sources...no content.....no news Edited 6 February, 2011 by JustMike
Deppo Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 I don't care what nationality our owners are, but at least with the Leibherrs in charge what happeed at Portsmouth will NEVER happen to us.
lordswoodsaints Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 Whatever the truth it is out of our hands and if the liebher family want to sell there isn't a thing we could do or say to stop them. All we can hope for from any owner of the club is to have reasonable success on the pitch and a decent infrastructure in place and for them not to run up dangerous levels of debt achieving that.
Kingsland Red Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 If true surely the question is has Cortese found the investors as he indicated he could if the Liebherrs want out , or is it a full takeover with NC gone too. I think the whole thing is b*ll*cks, a Daily Mail vendetta against NC.
70's Mike Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 Whatever the truth it is out of our hands and if the liebher family want to sell there isn't a thing we could do or say to stop them. All we can hope for from any owner of the club is to have reasonable success on the pitch and a decent infrastructure in place and for them not to run up dangerous levels of debt achieving that. Agreed to many dismissing this out of hand
bender Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 F*ck me. No one told me we are owned by a girl !!
Doctoroncall Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 Could be a good thing. Seems to confirm there is some substance in the rumours that have been around since the summer. No doubt because it isn't what some want to hear it will be dismissed as b*llocks by most. Pmsl
explorer saint Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 Yeh right! just like they did down the road. Some of you live on cloud cuckoo imo Down the road they were not debt free, we are and so are an attractive proposition
IFHP Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 £50million going once . . . . going twice . . . http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1354077/Southampton-set-50million-takeover-bid-Middle-East.html?ITO=1490&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter £50 million for a 3rd division club?
Johnny Bognor Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 F*ck me. No one told me we are owned by a girl !! ..... and we are run by someone with a girls name
bridge too far Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 ..... and we are run by someone with a girls name Owned by a girl, run by a girl - no wonder we're doing so well
aintforever Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 Why is it necessarily racist? That's hysterical. I would prefer a European over an American. And I would prefer a European over a businessman who comes from a country where business, politics, state patronage and corruption go together - and you'll find quite a few russian oligarchs and oil-rich princes (and of course one or two Europeans) fall in that category. Does it inspire confidence in you that some's guy fortune depends on who his friends and enemies are each shifting day or that his success is less down to long-term entrepreneurial ability than sitting idle on the gifts of nature or having a silver-spoon in his mouth? It doesn't me. I think you will find there are plenty of corrupt business people in Switzerland, even Gaydamak had a Swiss bank account.
VectisSaint Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 Wow what a crap article. It doesn't even say anything other than just speculation saying may or might and if and but. Why do people by crap like this. In fact if you read it it just reads as if the phoned up a bloke from the ME and said what you think about saints and they said not bad. Then thats it. This. This whole story is total fabrication. There is nothing here to suggest Saints are upfor sale, there is nothing to suggest Lawrie is involved, utter utter ******. This is a story that simply says that Saints are a far more attractive prospect than they were 2 years ago. No **** Sherlock! Actually if you actually read the article you could be very pleased that the current owners have turned the club round from being a dead duck to a great club going places, and no indication whatsoever that the current owners would sell. Its actually a pity that the OP gave the thread such a ridiculous title, clearly does not understand the difference between selling a business and hostile takeovers.
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 The heart of the matter is that our owner has sadly passed away and despite 'Don' Cortese's claims to the contrary the real determination of the Liebherr family to continue with their late fathers (vastly expensive) vision remains open to speculation at the very least. I have not the faintest idea whether there is any truth in this latest piece of press speculation, but those on here who want to dismiss it out of hand might do well to consider when was the last time we saw any member of the Liebherr family at St Marys ? Should the right offer come in I'm quite sure that SFC would indeed be sold - just like virtually every other football club in the country.
dubai_phil Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 I think you will find there are plenty of corrupt business people in Switzerland, even Gaydamak had a Swiss bank account. Not to mention the UK. Hell, you lot even had to try and pass a law to stop Bribery & Corruption, but still managed to get that wrong/ Don't like rich Arabs? Easy answer, stop putting petrol in your car.
aintforever Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 There is no quotes or sources in that article so it could be just made up, but as Hypo says it could be true. I know it's not what we want to hear but that doesn't mean it is automatically b@ll@cks. I am not that bothered either way, we have no control over what the Leibherrs want to do. We could end up with a pompey style arab, or it could be a Man City style, it's pointless worrying.
Johnny Bognor Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 Owned by a girl, run by a girl - no wonder we're doing so well not forgetting we play at a ground named after a female saint.
Wes Tender Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 Why is it necessarily racist? That's hysterical. I would prefer a European over an American. And I would prefer a European over a businessman who comes from a country where business, politics, state patronage and corruption go together - and you'll find quite a few russian oligarchs and oil-rich princes (and of course one or two Europeans) fall in that category. Does it inspire confidence in you that some's guy fortune depends on who his friends and enemies are each shifting day or that his success is less down to long-term entrepreneurial ability than sitting idle on the gifts of nature or having a silver-spoon in his mouth? It doesn't me. Quite. I thought that docker-p had the intelligence to realise that those implications were probably considerations behind Alpine's post and other posters have agreed with his point. But the old leftie class warrior wants to see political correctness everywhere, even as obliquely as here. Presumably, Alpine could equally have stated that he would prefer the sort of European ownership we have over the American model that has hampered many of our top clubs with massive leveraged debt. Would that have been deemed to be racist too?
beatlesaint Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 The reporter who put his name to this article, Alex Montgomery, was for many years a journalist on The Sun. Back in Lawrie's days he was always the guy who covered our matches and got many many exclusives about the Saints - new signings etc etc. I am not suggesting that Lawrie is behind this story, I would like to believe he would never do that, but I am just putting some Alex Montgomery facts out there for you !
so22saint Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 I don't really care who owns the club to be honest, as long as we're not in financial difficulties and making our way up the table - not selling all our best players and changing the manager evry 6 months. All that aside, there's every chance this is utter BS - good blog post on the Fail's excellent standards: http://nosleeptilbrooklands.blogspot.com/2011/01/true-story-of-daily-mail-lies-guest.html
alehouseboys Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 We could end up with a pompey style arab, or it could be a Man City style... IF this story had any substance and IF someone really was willing to pay £50m for a third division club then it would almost certainly not be one in the p*mpey style...
The Majestic Channon Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 Of course I has to be dismissed as ********. There is nothing of any substance whatsoever in that article. Read it again. It's purely speculative. It doesn't inform anyone of anything except that the Club was bought for about 13 million. Utter utter drivel. The article is vague on purpose; because the Mail need it to be so they can escape any legal action brought by the club. Lawrie Mac should do one now too and shut the **** up. He's clearly the 'dark forces' Cortese referred to in his BBC interview. Don't be stupid, Lawrie might not like cortese but to suggest he would be ringing newspapers claiming the club is up for sale etc is clearly nonsense.
Chez Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 Two questions: How does Lawrie know diddly? Why would Lawrie make it up?
Window Cleaner Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 Here we go again. How many times is that now then?? The story surfacing I mean.
hypochondriac Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 [/b] Don't be stupid, Lawrie might not like cortese but to suggest he would be ringing newspapers claiming the club is up for sale etc is clearly nonsense. I'm sure the daily mail invented the story as part of a deliberate destabilising campaign.
um pahars Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 £50m, you're having a laugh. If someone was waving this amount of money around for a loss making third tier club who are struggling to get out of that division, then I'm afraid the current owenrs would probably bite their hands off. You'd have to have quite a connection with the Club and bucketloads of sentiment to turn down such an astronomical figure. It's just a pie in the sky rumour. As for the bedwetters connecting Lawrie's bi/tri-annual FA Cup interview on how he delivered us our only trophy (there's only so many times you can tell that story!!!) and how he beat the big boys, and him being the source of this rumour well words fail me. Paranoia seems alive and well amongst a few on here.
dronskisaint Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 It's factually incorrect, unsubstantiated, fictional in it's content & purports to know a cause of death that has never been released. Worse still it's the Daily Nazi...why are we giving this any credibility at all!
Weston Saint Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 Why are posters reacting to this story as they are? We should be proud the Mail sees us, a Div 3 club, worth £50m after what we have gone through in recent years. We should not blame dark forces. There is nothing in the article which destabilises the club or the owners. There are no quotes or attributations from sources near to..... There is no comment that the Liebherr family want to sell only that the club is seen by Middle East interests as an ideal purchase. The usual “no smoke without fire” does not apply. There is no smoke, just a newspaper commenting on our market worth. They are complimentary of our club, our supporters, and our city. Rejoice people. Would the Liebherr family sell? Well they will be aware of Marcus wishes for the club. If someone came in with £50m and could demonstrate they could take the business plan and model forward without gearing, why not. A good business profit without damaging the late Marcus’s dream will do no one any harm A simplistic and naive view maybe, but as valid as all the other comments on this thread.
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 I don't care what nationality our owners are, but at least with the Leibherrs in charge what happeed at Portsmouth will NEVER happen to us. This. With absolute confidence. Whever the dark forces are they are trying their dirty best. No style, no substance and even less quality about their mouthpiece, the Daily Heil. Is Charlie Sale still with that rag?
SaintRobbie Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 It's in the Daily Mail therefore highly unlikely. But, if it is true we could buy Torres from Chelski!! Sell the Club I say!
saintmatt Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 "[saints] play in one of the most modern stadiums in the country, have a training ground worth about £10m, a fan base better than most higher clubs and access to a sea and airport." I'm not gonna get dragged into a racism debate or arguments over whether an Arab takeover would be a good thing or not or whether the mail is trustworthy or not; I'm just gonna enjoy the above quote...
Window Cleaner Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 But, if it is true we could buy Torres from Chelski!! ! How do you work that out??
Dalek2003 Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 IMO Cortese is enjoying the challenge and the Liebherr family are very discreetly backing him. Markus was a quiet but determined man, who did not court publicity. I believe the family are simply carrying on that tradition. We will get to the promised land, but it will be in a sensible and sustainable fashion. Long may our association with Liebherr and Cortese continue !
trousers Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 Cannot be the Dark Forces, Green Shield Stamps wouldn't be any use to buy and air ticket down this way Your cryptic clues are leading me to Bobby Davro. I've a hunch I may have taken a wrong turning somewhere along the way somehow...
Frank's cousin Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 IMO Cortese is enjoying the challenge and the Liebherr family are very discreetly backing him. Markus was a quiet but determined man, who did not court publicity. I believe the family are simply carrying on that tradition. We will get to the promised land, but it will be in a sensible and sustainable fashion. Long may our association with Liebherr and Cortese continue ! This.
ottery st mary Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 Buying Torres..You must be joking..... We have Rikeee and Barney..
Asaint4ever Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 If we were bought by a rich Arab I'd stop watching. I don't care how that sounds, I just couldnt devote my time, money and enthusiasm to the toy of an oil rich arab. What would be the point? If it just ends up with 30 or 40 clubs competing with Arab money we might as well move the leagues abroad. At least liebherr and NC seemed to want to promote patience, youth development and building up the club. I'm embarrassed enough by our spending as it is, let alone buying up every player possible like man city in the hope it hits a winning formula. + 1
The Majestic Channon Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 If we were bought by a rich Arab I'd stop watching. I don't care how that sounds, I just couldnt devote my time, money and enthusiasm to the toy of an oil rich arab. What would be the point? If it just ends up with 30 or 40 clubs competing with Arab money we might as well move the leagues abroad. At least liebherr and NC seemed to want to promote patience, youth development and building up the club. I'm embarrassed enough by our spending as it is, let alone buying up every player possible like man city in the hope it hits a winning formula. Strange post, how on earth do you already know how any new owner would do business???
.comsaint Posted 6 February, 2011 Author Posted 6 February, 2011 Silly thread title. Eh? Short and to the point. I didn't have the space to type: THE DAILY MAIL HAVE AN ARTICLE IN THEIR SH1TTY RAG STATING THAT WE'RE (APPARENTLY) WORTH £50MILLION QUID WHICH - TO BE HONEST - IS A LOAD OF OLD POO, BUT AT LEAST SAID ARTICLE WILL WIND UP ALL THE SAD BASTIDS ON TSW WHO REFUSE TO EVER GO AND WATCH US AGAIN SHOULD WE BE SOLD TO A LOAD OF ARABS.
Saint J 77 Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 This is bull,. At the end of this article it says "Liebherr's daughter, Katharina, took control after he died of a heart attack in August". This isnt even true. We have never had that confirmed, so what does Alex Montgomery know anyway?
buctootim Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 IF this story had any substance and IF someone really was willing to pay £50m for a third division club then it would almost certainly not be one in the p*mpey style... Opposite imo. The only people who would pay £50m for a third division club are exactly the kind of pompey shysters who have borrowed the money or have some dirty cash they need to launder
John Smith Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 We used to be in debt. ML bought us (saved us) and put more money in. Through a banking meltdown, we have continued to (slowly) develop this club (training ground was mentioned), and at this stage, Saints, have great potential. This jok of a 'journalist' has taken some detail, thrown it up in the air and read the tea leaves about the future. Has Lawrie Mac had a hand in? IMO, he doesn't need to help the Mail guess on speculation, it's what they do every day of the week. In fact, it shouldn't even be called a Newspaper, but a Speccy Paper, or 'Not so' Broadsheet. The mail may have a point as we may get bought out by an arab in the next 500 years and in that time, they can turn to this piece of twitter and say 'told you'. So, how about we all stop reading/quoting the Daily Mail, it has been proved to be THE most inaccurate group of writing (didn't want to use news paper), there has ever been, on a daily basis. Anyway, another day, another body blow, but what a great game. Will we ever win on sky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????
LostBoys Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 Come on guys this is the Mail - you know this is crap
Badger Posted 6 February, 2011 Posted 6 February, 2011 Come on guys this is the Mail - you know this is crap It is easy to dismiss the story on the back of fact you deem the particular newspaper an unreliable source. However if I remember correctly though it was The Mail on Sunday who lead the story naming the Liebherrs as our potential saviours.* And FWIW I do not believe the current story but have no evidence either way to back my feeling. *although they did indicate the wrong Liebherrs at the time.
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