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A little disappointed at the result, I thought when we went 4.2 uo we could and should have closed up shop.

Why did we seem to want to hoof the ball up field all the time instead on maintaing possession, We lost out shape late on and I dont think NA should have made the sustitutions. It was not a game to bring on forte

The ref was a bit fussy how he could tell that boros 2nd penalty was one is beyond me. he was so obscured by the payers in front of him. the lino should have been consulted

 

As for the 5 minutes plus etc time how did that happen?

Just watched the celtic rangers game. there were scuffles with handbags at six paces for at least a minute and a half, two sendings of , substitutions etc. and the ref only gave 2 mins added time

 

Maybe ferguson spoke to his dad to nobble the referee . As freguson senior always seems to get enough extra time so his side can either equalise or win the game

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Seaborne was not at fault for the first goal - he never had it in reach so couldn't have just booted it out, and Mackail-smith was simply quicker. Davis should have done much, much better. All he had to do was stick his foot out to the right a bit.

I noticed for the second Harding was going nuts at everyone but it was HIS man that had a completely free header. I think Hardings quality, but i'd probably put Dickson in for the next game.

 

Sorry, but that's wrong.

 

His initial movement was forwards. He misjudged the ball. If he had turned and run as his initial reaction he would've got the ball first but he took a step tighter on M-S which proved fatal.

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Agree, especially when we go away. There's a good argument for playing Chaplow, Hammond and Schneiderlin together, with Chappers as the most mobile. Its crucial to win the midfield battle first, then get the goals. I would rest Oxo for the next few away games and go with Gully/N'guessan and Lallana just behind Lambert, pulling wide where necessary. Would effectively be a 4-3-2-1.

 

Spot on!

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As for the 5 minutes plus etc time how did that happen?

 

Don't remember many injuries, but there were 4 goals (3 of them penalties causing a stoppage), 3 bookings and 5 substitutions, so I'm not sure we can complain about the time added on. Additionally, we have to play right up until the final whistle.

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I'm an Udders fan with Southampton connections and a soft spot for you lot. I think you should be reasonably content with a point at London Road even though the Posh came from behind twice. When we were there we sailed into a two goal lead and looked very comfortable for a while, but in the end we lost 4-2. Oldham went 2 up and lost 5-2 if memory serves me correctly. They came back 3 times against Wednesday, won 5-3 and they just never know when they are beaten. I thought both teams participated in a great game of football yesterday which did the division proud in front of the cameras and I for one celebrate that fact. Some people say this division is dire, but for the last few seasons we have had some outstanding individuals and teams that frequently make teams in divisions above us look ordinary to say the least. Norwich, Leeds and Millwall have more than held their own in the division above and quite a few of the teams in the top 6 now would do the same.

 

This season is one of the most exciting I can remember because the division is so close. Dropping points seems like the end of the world until you make that lost ground back up again. I think Brighton are unstoppable to be honest even though we won our only game so far against them. That means that the rest of us are scrapping for the second spot IMO and both Udders and Saints will suffer bad and indifferent days before the season is laid to rest, but hopefully there should be more highs than lows as the race for second ebbs and flows.

 

Well done Saints on your contribution to a great game last night.

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Very rarely comment on away match threads as sadly I don't go to many away games, I did go to this one. A 300 mile round trip was well rewarded from an entertainment but not result perspective. I attended with my Grandson (his first Saints Game,3 yrs old, lives in Peterborough) eldest daughter and 2 sons. From the 5 minute I said that Smith would be the difference between the 2 teams and so it proved. Our defence could not contain him, his pace and physical approach were awesome. No saints player stood out but Seabourne is not good enough. A point at London Road is good, the game was entertaining despite the referee who was very poor. All in all a win would have been great but we didn't earn it, there is a long way to go and we do have a team more than capable of automatic promotion, the doomsayers can wait until the fat lady has sung.

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I'm an Udders fan with Southampton connections and a soft spot for you lot. I think you should be reasonably content with a point at London Road even though the Posh came from behind twice. When we were there we sailed into a two goal lead and looked very comfortable for a while, but in the end we lost 4-2. Oldham went 2 up and lost 5-2 if memory serves me correctly. They came back 3 times against Wednesday, won 5-3 and they just never know when they are beaten. I thought both teams participated in a great game of football yesterday which did the division proud in front of the cameras and I for one celebrate that fact. Some people say this division is dire, but for the last few seasons we have had some outstanding individuals and teams that frequently make teams in divisions above us look ordinary to say the least. Norwich, Leeds and Millwall have more than held their own in the division above and quite a few of the teams in the top 6 now would do the same.

 

This season is one of the most exciting I can remember because the division is so close. Dropping points seems like the end of the world until you make that lost ground back up again. I think Brighton are unstoppable to be honest even though we won our only game so far against them. That means that the rest of us are scrapping for the second spot IMO and both Udders and Saints will suffer bad and indifferent days before the season is laid to rest, but hopefully there should be more highs than lows as the race for second ebbs and flows.

 

Well done Saints on your contribution to a great game last night.

 

 

So we are not a laughing stock then, thanks penchant I agree this year the Third Division is a great place to watch football and the competition makes every game even more exciting. Good luck in the playoffs against Bompey!

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Seaborne was not at fault for the first goal - he never had it in reach so couldn't have just booted it out, and Mackail-smith was simply quicker. Davis should have done much, much better. All he had to do was stick his foot out to the right a bit.

I noticed for the second Harding was going nuts at everyone but it was HIS man that had a completely free header. I think Hardings quality, but i'd probably put Dickson in for the next game.

 

ummm yes he was! He had it as his feet as I was screaming at him to knock it back to KD but he delayed, got robbed and they scored.

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ummm yes he was! He had it as his feet as I was screaming at him to knock it back to KD but he delayed, got robbed and they scored.

 

He was at fault, misjudged the ball, okay not easy in a swirling wind but he should have got his body between CMS and the ball, i'm not quite sure what he was doing but just running alongside CMS until he just exelerated past him. Jamie Carragher just gave a classic example of how to defend against a quicker striker doing exactly this. I know he is no Jamie Carragher, but it's basic defending.

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Watch it again, not once did he have the ball under his control.

 

But he could have stretched for it and he shouldn't have moved forwarsd when the ball was first played.

 

It is astonishing that people are determined to attribute more blams to Davis than Seaborne for that goal. Just weird.

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He was at fault, misjudged the ball, okay not easy in a swirling wind but he should have got his body between CMS and the ball, i'm not quite sure what he was doing but just running alongside CMS until he just exelerated past him. Jamie Carragher just gave a classic example of how to defend against a quicker striker doing exactly this. I know he is no Jamie Carragher, but it's basic defending.

 

Quite.

 

It was clearly a cock-up.

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Once the loan window opens, perhaps worth having a (cheeky) look at Jack Hobbs at Leicester? A great prospect at CB -was their player of the year last season, though not currently in Sven's plans. NA also knows him well: had him on loan in 2008.

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Quite.

 

It was clearly a cock-up.

 

Seaborne just got roasted by a player of superior quality ,not even a cock up. I thought Davis might have done slightly better but

CMS is a class act which we failed to tame. If the corner by Ox hadn't been ridiculously over-hit it might not even have happened that way.

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It's not rocket science to defend against a quicker player, the marker needs the nearest defender to drop in behind and cut off the ball, but Harding sitting square and ball watching just left Seaborne exposed. As soon as the ball was in the air Harding should have been ignoring it as it was going towards Seaborne and concentrated on getting into a covering position where he would probably have prevented the goal by nicking the ball or at the worst driving CMS wide. Because he was the last defender Seaborne would have been sent off if he had impeded CMS but not if Harding had got round on the cover.

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Seaborne just got roasted by a player of superior quality ,not even a cock up. I thought Davis might have done slightly better but

CMS is a class act which we failed to tame. If the corner by Ox hadn't been ridiculously over-hit it might not even have happened that way.

 

It was a cock-up. He moved forwards when the ball was played. He obviously misjudged the flight. It was a mistake.

 

He must be dropped, along with everyone else.

 

On a different note, I've just seen that amusingly Ferguson thinks our first penalty should not have been given.

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It was a cock-up. He moved forwards when the ball was played. He obviously misjudged the flight. It was a mistake.

 

He must be dropped, along with everyone else.

 

On a different note, I've just seen that amusingly Ferguson thinks our first penalty should not have been given.

 

Mackail-Smith is a quality forward. Seabourne is a good defender. Just because Mackail-Smith bested him, doesn't make Seabourne crap.

 

However, on this we should all agree. Ferguson is as blind as his dad (ie. a kn*b jockey)

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I reckon we need abot 88 to 90 points to go up automatically! that means almost the same number of points in our remaining 19 games as we have got in the 27 to date.

 

Not much room for a lot of dropped points from here on in!

 

at rate we have been averaging since Adkins we will get 80

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On Solent it was stated that Peterborough turned down 2 bids of 600k and 750k from a unknown club for Criag MS before Transfer Deadline - Does anyone know if we put those bids in for him?

 

Well we were quoted with an interest, Adkins didn't deny it when asked - so I wouldn't be surprised.

 

But those offers are a bit of an insult to P'boro and the player. He's worth well over £1m - closer to £2m

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On Solent it was stated that Peterborough turned down 2 bids of 600k and 750k from a unknown club for Criag MS before Transfer Deadline - Does anyone know if we put those bids in for him?

 

Just before match yesterday,fairly certain Solent said we had had a 750k bid turned down for him. Shame really 'cause he proved to be a right pain in the arse!!

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Well we were quoted with an interest, Adkins didn't deny it when asked - so I wouldn't be surprised.

 

But those offers are a bit of an insult to P'boro and the player. He's worth well over £1m - closer to £2m

 

He's out of contract in the summer so not that bad a bid. They have to get promoted for him to stay so he may go for **** all in te summer

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Just watched the highlights - didn't catch the game when it was on the telly. Seaborne cost us the game, stupid challenge inside the box for their 3rd goal, what was he thinking?! Also not sure our second penalty was the correct call, Chaplow went down very easily although there was contact made on his shoulder. Really harsh call for Peterborough's 4th goal as well, it hit him under the arm and his back was turned from the ball! Just the pressure of it being the 90th minute, 3-4 and at home meant the referee had to give the penalty. Any other time in the game it would have been 50/50.

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Just before match yesterday,fairly certain Solent said we had had a 750k bid turned down for him. Shame really 'cause he proved to be a right pain in the arse!!

 

Solent also reported, just a couple of weeks ago, from talking to their exclusive close sources, that Alex Ox was definately going this window. Done deal.

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I'm an Udders fan with Southampton connections and a soft spot for you lot. I think you should be reasonably content with a point at London Road even though the Posh came from behind twice. When we were there we sailed into a two goal lead and looked very comfortable for a while, but in the end we lost 4-2. Oldham went 2 up and lost 5-2 if memory serves me correctly. They came back 3 times against Wednesday, won 5-3 and they just never know when they are beaten. I thought both teams participated in a great game of football yesterday which did the division proud in front of the cameras and I for one celebrate that fact. Some people say this division is dire, but for the last few seasons we have had some outstanding individuals and teams that frequently make teams in divisions above us look ordinary to say the least. Norwich, Leeds and Millwall have more than held their own in the division above and quite a few of the teams in the top 6 now would do the same.

 

This season is one of the most exciting I can remember because the division is so close. Dropping points seems like the end of the world until you make that lost ground back up again. I think Brighton are unstoppable to be honest even though we won our only game so far against them. That means that the rest of us are scrapping for the second spot IMO and both Udders and Saints will suffer bad and indifferent days before the season is laid to rest, but hopefully there should be more highs than lows as the race for second ebbs and flows.

 

Well done Saints on your contribution to a great game last night.

 

:rolleyes:

 

I suggest more people take a look at this post and check their perspective. I agree with everything except for the point that Brighton are unstoppable. They will have a mini slump before the end of the season (at least it's statistically vey likely) and that will make the race for automatic promotion very interesting.

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I think I read he was out of contract summer 2012 and that he has said he wont be signing a new one.

 

You're probably thinking of Le Fondre, who a lot of people thought was out of contract in summer. ALF is contracted till 2012 and has said he wont re-sign. No idea about CMS.

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Anyone else getting concerned about Guly?

 

Since he has signed permanently he has been very disappointing compared to his form in the run up to his loan deal ending - Another case of a player only playing for a bigger contract, like Saganowski? Wouldn't surprise me, I personally hoped we would have extended the loan deal till the end of the season as he had been very on and off.

 

Hopefully he is dropped vs Carlisle. It could actually help him recapture some form.

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Anyone else getting concerned about Guly?

 

Since he has signed permanently he has been very disappointing compared to his form in the run up to his loan deal ending - Another case of a player only playing for a bigger contract, like Saganowski? Wouldn't surprise me, I personally hoped we would have extended the loan deal till the end of the season as he had been very on and off.

 

Hopefully he is dropped vs Carlisle. It could actually help him recapture some form.

 

I call 'myth' on that one.

 

Guly - Can't remember the date he signed, but our last 4 games have been against Tranny, Manure, Exooharr and Posh. Man Utd is always a tough gig and in the other 3 fixtures Saints played fairly poorly as a team. I'm sure when we improve our overall game, Guly will come good again.

 

Saga - After signing him on a permanent deal, Burley pulled off the tactical masterstroke of not actually playing him. I remember Saga scoring in that God-forsaken curtain raiser against Palace, then scarcely being seen again until about February. I remember one midweek match (think it might have been against the Us) when he came on with 45s of injury time left. Madness. You can't exactly call him lazy either, he put in more effort than Stern John, BWP and Rasiak combined (although that really isn't saying much).

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I was going to comment on the game, but instead I'll comment on the utter knobs that are slitting their wrists after a freak result away to a good side!

 

4 points from 2 tough away games at promotion chasing sides and we're in turmoil!!! FFS there really are some Muppets on this forum

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I was going to comment on the game, but instead I'll comment on the utter knobs that are slitting their wrists after a freak result away to a good side!

 

4 points from 2 tough away games at promotion chasing sides and we're in turmoil!!! FFS there really are some Muppets on this forum

 

Your post would have been more interesting if you had commented more on the game, and less on abusing fellow posters. We are all entitled to an opinion.

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What a game Posh never gave up & fair play to them they were well worth a point I think we should buy Mackail-Smith fantastic energy very quick caused us all sorts of problems.

 

The conditions did not help it was blowing a gale & we never got the chance to put our foot on it & take the sting out of the game they are just all out attack no wonder they leave holes at the back.

 

Very disapointing to have a 2 goal lead away from home & not take 3 points both of there 1st 2 goals should have been defended better I dont know why we were playing such a high line against a very quick willing runner but he left Seaborne for dead & shocking marking for the 2nd.

 

All in all fantastic entertainment I really enjoyed it great atmosphere in the stand proper old school away day COYS !

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Anyone else getting concerned about Guly?

 

Since he has signed permanently he has been very disappointing compared to his form in the run up to his loan deal ending - Another case of a player only playing for a bigger contract, like Saganowski? Wouldn't surprise me, I personally hoped we would have extended the loan deal till the end of the season as he had been very on and off.

 

Hopefully he is dropped vs Carlisle. It could actually help him recapture some form.

 

Yes, really worried, He signed on the 20th of January, he has played 3 GAMES since then, one at home v Man United where he was pretty good and two away, dont know about Tranmere not great on saturday. WE should get shot of him asap and Forte, he did nothing in the the 10 minutes he was on the pitch on saturday, get rid now, we dont need these slackers. :x

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and people think Seaborne is good enough for a team looking to play in the championship next season. Arguably at fault for the first three goals, definitely 1 and 3!

 

AS I've said before, he's ok in this league against ok opposition, those without guile or pace or when he has plenty of space and time. When he's under pressure with ball at feet or has to make a quick decision he is not good enough to make the difference. He got caught out by CMS pace, amixture of not reacting quick enough to the situation and a lack of actual pace. For the 3rd goal he got done by quick movement. God help us against Bournemouth, Brighton, and Charlton if he plays!

 

Although he made a couple of great saves and came for one or two crosses, again Kelvin was not good enough. Beaten at your near post for the first, static for the second, and well clueless for the pens!! How bad does he need to be for Bart to get a go?!!

 

Still, overall despite the goals I think we were a litttle fortunate to come away with a point because in the second half I thought P'Boro were far better, indee for the whole game they played with a quicker tempo and had more pace and maybe energy to their play. They are a good side, despite their defensive record and will definitely be be top 6 so all in all taking 4 points off them is not too bad.

 

It was an enjoyable game BUT, had we gone 3 up......!!!!

 

Think you're being a bit harsh on Davis (couldn't do too much about the pens), but apart from that fairly spot on. Last 30 mins Peterborough looked much the better team. In the last half hour against Man Utd, when we were constantly giving the ball away and giving away sloppy free-kicks I thought it was due to tiredness from playing against much higher-level opposition. Yesterday, the last 30mins was the same. We looked tired. Couldn't keep hold of the ball and kept on giving away cheap free kicks (and pens) in dangerous positions.

 

Meanwhile Puncheon scores in the Prem..................

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I think people need to remember that the pitch was bumpy and there was a strong wind, which blew in our faces during the second half. The problem is that you can't tell from TV, nor on the terraces, what the conditions are like on the pitch. For me, it was always going to lead to a number of individual errors, but I can't understand how posters can watch a match like that and not applaud both teams and take the positives from what was a great game of football between two League One clubs.

 

I'm a football fan first and a Southampton fan second. That helps as we don't win every game and often play against teams that provide their own entertainment for me. I could honestly live with another season in League One. Gutted if it happens, but can't say I haven't had my moneys worth at St. Marys...

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Why oh why didn't we sign CMS? The best and most dangerous player on the pitch. Still a centre back and central midfielder away from being a very good team....

 

Probably would have cost too much even if we were interested. With 6 months left on his contract he'd probably want to be assured of playing at a higher level before he resigned anywhere.Our league position doesn't do us any favours on the player signing front.We may all firmly believe that we'll be in the NPC next season but the table now says maybe,maybe not.We have signed 2 fast forward players but for some reason we didn't use them from the start.

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He's out of contract in the summer so not that bad a bid. They have to get promoted for him to stay so he may go for **** all in te summer

 

Despite some media sources repeating that contract situation - in actual fact he is under contract to PUFC until Summer 2012. So the boy is still going to cost whoever wants him a good bundle of £ in the summer!

 

A cracking game, another mad 90 mins at London Road - our un-official Posh fans podcast talking about the game will be on-line tonight from http://www.standingontheglebe.co.uk -It will carry a parental advisory sticker due to my comments regarding Mr Chaplow

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Despite some media sources repeating that contract situation - in actual fact he is under contract to PUFC until Summer 2012. So the boy is still going to cost whoever wants him a good bundle of £ in the summer!

 

A cracking game, another mad 90 mins at London Road - our un-official Posh fans podcast talking about the game will be on-line tonight from http://www.standingontheglebe.co.uk -It will carry a parental advisory sticker due to my comments regarding Mr Chaplow

 

You should hear what he says about you...& that fat, too-small-suit-wearing, pudgy talentless slob of an office equipment salesman of a manager that got rejected from Preston!:lol:

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I have other things to do as well like earn some money to eat!

 

I wasn't asking you to take a week over it - just to answer the very valid question that beatle raised.

 

If you can find the time to post a whole paragraph of utter crap, surely you can find the time to post a line of explanation. Or even to admit that you were talking out of an incorrect part of your anatomy.

 

Or even to say that you posted when you were still p*ssed off at the Newcastle comeback. ;)

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Yes, really worried, He signed on the 20th of January, he has played 3 GAMES since then, one at home v Man United where he was pretty good and two away, dont know about Tranmere not great on saturday. WE should get shot of him asap and Forte, he did nothing in the the 10 minutes he was on the pitch on saturday, get rid now, we dont need these slackers. :x

 

LOL I say my concern and I get sarcastic ****e like this.

 

Notts County (H) - He kept giving the ball away and missed a great chance at passing it to Oxo for an open goal.

Tranmere (A) - He was only mentioned by Solent once or twice. Didn't sound like he was in the game.

Man Utd (H) - He kept giving the ball away and missed a sitter.

Peterborough (A) - Did he even do anything? Seemed like he couldn't be ****ed and kept giving the ball away.

 

Start him on the bench for Carlisle, could do him some good.

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