Saints 4 P'Boro 4 - Post Match Reaction

[stu0x]

After raging about it last night, I've got a slightly different perspective on it this morning.

 

A point away at Peterboro is no bad thing. Yes it's annoying that the other teams around us won, but there will be times when we win and they don't.

 

What we *should* have done once in the lead (certainly the second time) is revert to how we played against United - compact and strangle the midfield, playing out from the full backs. Seabourne and Harding both had relatively poor games, but they were both very impressive against United - so to say they 'aren't good enough' clearly isn't true. Chaplow was frequently our furthest forward player, which is fine as he seems to have turned into the second coming of Roberto Baggio (or at least a League One version - and without the rat's tail). But with Chamberlain and Guly not exactly being defensive-minded, the midfield got overrun far too often and left the defence with too much to do.

 

Our defence weren't that bad, they just got beaten by two of *the* form players in the division. When Lallana and Lambert tore teams up last season we gave them the credit, we didn't blame poor defending on the other side. Can't have it both ways. JMS reminded me of Lambert from last year and got his rewards. You knew he was going to beat Seabourne and bury that chance. But he got the better of Fonte a few times as well - does that mean Fonte is now suddenly useless?

 

Conversely, at that moment that Lambert broke free and had a chance to make it 5... if that was last season, he would have lobbed the keeper first time. Instead he got beaten for pace by a defender and blasted it straight at him. It seemed to me that he is dropping so deep all the time and has become quite immobile, they are all signs of a loss of confidence. It's not about 'thinking' you are going to beat the man, score a goal, lay off a ball, whatever - it's about 'knowing' it will happen. Form is a mental thing, there's no magic wand to make it come back. Hopefully Lambert's will, but there's a possibility we may have seen his peak.

 

Before we burn effigies of Davis, he made a couple of very good reaction saves and didn't by any means have a shocker.

 

Guly is pointless deployed in midfield unless it's an attacking role, he has none of the defensive discipline required. All his success prior to him signing permanently was as a second striker. That is where he needs to play, or not at all. Barnard and Lambert together don't convince. It is two from those three.

 

Forte had very little time to make an impression, but when he swiped at that chance and almost fell over, the impression I got was "Heskey". Here's hoping for a more successful sophomore appearance.

 

All this obsession with "pace on the wings" meant that, when the time came to make a substitution and what we *actually* needed was to pack and overrun midfield, we had no options. I wonder whether Wotton into a 5-man midfield would have led to a different result...

 

Our second penalty wasn't, and nor was theirs. So you can't really grumble.

 

Darren Ferguson really is a graceless, humourless ****, all the negative character traits of his father without any of the ability. And good to see he still holds a torch for Chaplow.

 

Look on the bright side - imagine what a potential Saints - Peterboro playoff final would look like!!!

Edited 6 February, 2011 by stu0x

[Ewell]

On reflection a draw is a good result but the manner in which it happened is not acceptable. To lead a game by two clear goals TWICE and surrender the lead is just not on. There is no way we will go up automatically if we cannot see a game out.

 

Chaplow and Hammond impressed me but very few others did. Alex looked good in patches but I though Do Prado was very poor and dived in at every opportunity. If he is not in the side up front then I do not think he should be in the team. I was shocked at how poor the back 4 were and a lot of credit needs to go to Craig Mackail-Smith, he has to be top of the shopping list next summer. Davis, Harding and Seaborne should not be written off but they really did perform poorly yesterday.

 

I know he did not have long but new signing Forte look like a lost soul up front. His decision making and first touch seemed very poor. Hopefully it was first game nerves and he didn't have long so it is a bit cruel to judge him on that performance alone.

[LGTL]

I wish we signed CMS, he tore us apart at every opportunity last night. His contest with Seabourne was comical.

[Whitey Grandad]

The lack of discipline of Guly and Harding restricted Adkins's choice of how to close out the game. They had to be substituted or they would have been sent off the next time they made a bad tackle.

[VectisSaint]

Can't agree with Smirking Saint that Seaborne had a 'decent game'. Watched on Sky and not only was Seaborne at fault for two of their goals he just didn't adapt to the speed of their forwards. Jaidi would have done no better against fast strikers and Martin's inexperience makes him too much of a risk against a strong side but it does look as if a new CB is needed and its now too late with the wndow closed. I don't blame Adkins as Seaborne hasn't failed this badly before but it didn't look like one bad game, rather that he's just not the grade for a promotion winning team.

Loan window is open. New CB is what I said all along when the transfer window was open, it was the main area where we needed to strengthen. Jaidi is still fine for most games this season but will not be up to it next year if we get promoted, Seaborne is good backup and Martin is clearly not in Adkins plans. We need a new mobile strong CB to be the 1st choice pairing with Fonte.

[beatlesaint]

Look on the bright side - imagine what a potential Saints - Peterboro playoff final would look like!!!

 

I think the nearest Hospital's A&E Dept would be overcrowded with heart attack victims if that were to happen :-)

[Weston Saint]

Where was Morgan?

 

Schneiderlin was injured in training on Thursday and like Lallana did not travel. Do not know the extect of his injury but Lallana is very close to returning and likely to be in the mix for Carlise game

[Weston Saint]

Loan window is open. New CB is what I said all along when the transfer window was open, it was the main area where we needed to strengthen. Jaidi is still fine for most games this season but will not be up to it next year if we get promoted, Seaborne is good backup and Martin is clearly not in Adkins plans. We need a new mobile strong CB to be the 1st choice pairing with Fonte.

Martin is very much in Adkins plans for the future, the emphasis being on future.

[Chicken With A Banjo]

Another point people seem to be over looking is how well Adkins and Crosby utilise set pieces. Against Man Utd we took a corner which was very different to the norm and Harding nearly scored. Today Chamberlain passes it to Hammond who smashes it in. Superb.

 

There was also a free kick lambert took within shooting range where he lofted it through to fonte who headed back across the goal which could've easily dropped for a saints player which took everyone by surprise.

[Griffo]

I liked that chant. I was stood there (joining in) and thinking 'I've been to a couple of dosen away games over the years and never heard that chant, is it new or am I a mong?' If you did indeed create it, I tip my hat to you sir.

 

Whilst we're on the subject, liked the Cortese chant. We could also sing his name to the Conga (i.e. Jhon Viafara) tune. Was there also a "swing low" for Chaplow?

 

Chaplow

Richard Chaplow

He's got nothing on his head.

 

Something like that.

 

Man Utd have sung it for quite some time, but I just nicked that and changed the words obviously. Have never heard it before, started it for the first time yesterday and I thought it caught on really well.

[dobbo]

Chaplow really does wind up ferguson jnr. Very funny seeing him having a go when Chaplow barged his player over in front of him, also his interview slating him shows a personal dislike. If we can now get promoted and take his best players!!!

[St Lej]

That's the sort of game we would have won last season.

 

Your beef with Adkins (which has no substantianted reasoning) is about as clueless as most previous things you've posted over the years.

[Saint Fan CaM]

Meh. Great game of football - like two prize fighters slugging it out toe to toe. Trouble is Adkins didn't change things around early enough which meant the midfield was overrun and the defence was put under too much pressure. We didn't keep possession and pass the ball around like we did against Utd. There were some individual errors but this ultimately cost us the 3 points.

[dronskisaint]

At least Ali Dia come on and got a touch.

 

You really weren't watching then - he caught a ball that was really not his through sheer pace, controlled it & set up a chance in the corner in front of the stand where I stood...he did miss a cross immediately after he came on but it was weirdly windy - particularly at that end of the ground.

 

Give the guy a chance...don't spread B*llox like others who cast judgement without even seeing the game.

[surrey1saint]

My view is that although very disappointing to not get the win,especially losing a 2 goal advantage,twice a point was pretty good at their place,on an awful pitch,which didn't suit our style of play.

[Deppo]

Isn't it time to sell off this squad and start again from scratch? They've had their chances.

[Turkish]

I have left it until this morning to make my comments as it was very late when we got in last night.

Interesting some of the comments about drama queens, but it feels like a loss not a draw. Ultimately in my opinion Adkins takes the rap for tonight. At 4-2 all he needed to do was switch to a regualar 4-4-2. Take Guly off as he was very poor today. Put Oxo on the right & NGueson on the left. He said in his interview he put Richardson on to shore things up......well that didnt work. Harding had to be taken off as he was going to get sent off. Same for Guly. When he put Oxo in the middle he looked totally lost. He made 1 good run all night & we got a penalty. Its as if someone has told him not to run with the ball any more.

Forte added nothing, but is a bit harsh on a chap who has 10 minutes.

Kelv made an outstanding save at 0-0 then was beaten at his near post for the 1st.

Seabourne was worse last night than Harding was at Carlisle. CMS did him for the first. That came straight from our crap corner by the way. We should have done the cross for the 2nd, but then Seabourne & Harding fluff it. Seabourne for the pen. Looked like one from the opposite end, but have not seen the TV replay. He has to be left out now for a while just like Harding was. Martin needs to be moved above him in the pecking order.

Where was Morgan?

Pitch was poo.

Ref was shocking.

On the whole very very disapointed.............

 

Agree with everything you say Ade, Seaborne got mugged off for the first, him and Harding should have dealt with the cross and what the f*ck was he doing for their pen? It was as clear as you can get. Their 4th was harsh, we couldn't really tell from our end and having now seen the reply it although it hit him on the arm he was only 5 foot away and had his back to the ball, his arms weren't even outstreached or above his head. Very harsh but our second pen was soft as well. I dont know what Martin has done wrong but he looked good when he came in earlier this season.

For me playing AOC in the middle doesn't work, and as you say quite why he didn't bring N'Gessen on and switch to 4-4-2 or even 4-5-1 at 4-2 up is beyond me, close the game out and hit them on the break as they were chasing it with AOC and N'Gessens pace on the break. Overall a draw was a fair result and i'd have happily taken 4 points from these two away games but to give away a two goal lead twice in the same game is disapointing.

[um pahars]

(posted this on wrong thread earlier!!!)

 

Still not sure what to make of that result.

 

On the way home and after a long day travelling, I was fuming and thinking that surrendering a 2 goal lead (twice) demonstrated that we just don't have enough to go up.

 

This morning, I'm reflecting on my original line before the game of "I'd settle for a point" and thinking that 4 points from 2 away games isn't that bad.

 

As for the game itself, I'm just not sure we ever looked that comfortable, which does seem a bit crass when you consider we scored four and were leading twice. Is it acceptable to be critiquing our performance when viewed from that context??? I just thought our set up always exposed us and Chaplow and Hammond were being asked to do too much in the middle of the park. Chamberlain and Guly had been set up to go forward which left big holes on both flanks which Peterborough exploited.

 

Posh were a very decent team going forward, but their set up also exposed a leaky defence.

 

My criticism would be that after going two up early in the second half, Adkins should have gone more compact and try a 4-4-2 to see the game out. I would have put Richardson on at right midfield (in place of Guly) and told Chamberlain that whilst he could still forage forward, his priority was to support Harding. He seemed to make the substitutions but persevered with a similar system and POSH came steaming forward.

 

Good away turnout, but wished it had been a normal KO without SKY as we would have probably doubled our travelling support and got a really good atmosphere going on that terrace.

[um pahars]

Agree with everything you say Ade, Seaborne got mugged off for the first, him and Harding should have dealt with the cross and what the f*ck was he doing for their pen? It was as clear as you can get. Their 4th was harsh, we couldn't really tell from our end and having now seen the reply it although it hit him on the arm he was only 5 foot away and had his back to the ball, his arms weren't even outstreached or above his head. Very harsh but our second pen was soft as well. I dont know what Martin has done wrong but he looked good when he came in earlier this season.

For me playing AOC in the middle doesn't work, and as you say quite why he didn't bring N'Gessen on and switch to 4-4-2 or even 4-5-1 at 4-2 up is beyond me, close the game out and hit them on the break as they were chasing it with AOC and N'Gessens pace on the break. Overall a draw was a fair result and i'd have happily taken 4 points from these two away games but to give away a two goal lead twice in the same game is disapointing.

 

Treble agree.

 

Won't complain about their 2nd penalty, as ours also looked dodgy. As for their second, although harding looked to be at fault (we were in the seats so couldn't see exactly what happened at the far post) my beef was with the ease that they got the cross in. Chaplow was on his own as one bloke took the throw in and then another played it straight back to him. We were too stretched in the middle of the park as the way we set up was meaning Hammond and Chaplow were being asked to cover too much ground.

[eelpie]

Listening to the moaners anyone would think we had lost two matches against Posh. We've taken four points off them and scored eight goals to their five, and never been behind. Our position in the table is not Posh's doing. It's crass performances against the bottom teams in this division.

 

Entertainment value playing against Peterborough is 10/10, but it comes with a heck of a health warning.

[Window Cleaner]

Treble agree.

 

Won't complain about their 2nd penalty, as ours also looked dodgy. As for their second, although harding looked to be at fault (we were in the seats so couldn't see exactly what happened at the far post) my beef was with the ease that they got the cross in. Chaplow was on his own as one bloke took the throw in and then another played it straight back to him. We were too stretched in the middle of the park as the way we set up was meaning Hammond and Chaplow were being asked to cover too much ground.

 

In my opinion Chaplow spends far too much time far too far forward to be considered as a central midfielder plus as I've said before (and been slagged off because of it) his tackling is far too hazardous,getting a yellow a few minutes into the game for a kamikaze tackle isn't on,it means that he has to rein it in for the next 80 or so minutes.You can't have a midfield of Ox,Chaplow,Hammond and Guly because none of them can tackle correctly and they are caught out of position far too easily.

Recovery midfielder is a serious job and you can't play that role if you spend over half your time in the opponents box.Adkins has got to rein in Chaplow's attacking appetites when we're 4-2 up away from home.

[saintant]

Great game to watch and a good advert for League 1 football. A point at Peterboro is no disaster even though we led by two goals twice - they are reknowned for comebacks this season and have some very good players. Disappointed with Seaborne - either he is very slow or CSM is lightening quick because he looked to be treading water for their first goal. That is a worry because you can't expect to keep things tight if one of your centre backs is dead slow. Thought Fonte was brilliant and needs a decent partner alongside him - not sure why Martin hasn't been given another go as he played well early in the season. My other concern is that we got caught once again when a player in an offside position left the ball to allow a runner to come from deep. We did this at Exeter and it cost us a goal - the same happened yesterday but this time Kelvin saved us. Perhaps we should try that tactic - let Lambert or Barnard take up an offside position with Chamberlain lurking just a bit deeper then play the through ball, offside player leaves it and Chamberlain uses his pace to come from an onside position. It's a difficult one to defend against because you anticipate getting the offside but with today's rule if the ball is left someone can come from deep quite legitimately.

[Thedelldays]

To be fair.. If I wad offered 4 points from the last two away games I would have said yes please..

 

But you can't feel peed off at letting a two goal leaf slip twice in one match.. Should have won really

[Wes Tender]

Interesting to watch the extended highlights on BBC I-Player. They say that the Chaplow penalty was justified because Kennedy had tugged at Chaplow's shoulder and also that Chamberlain's penalty was dubious, because he was turned away from the oncoming ball, an additional facet to the Sky claims that there was doubt about it because it had hit him under the armpit.

 

So contrary to the idiot Ferguson's claims that their two penalties were justified, whereas our two weren't, it seems that sports commentators with the benefit of technology, appear to disagree with him. I also confirmed my impression from the Sky programme that when they scored the diving header, Whelpdale had an arm over Harding's shoulder, hampering his ability to jump to head away.

[dronskisaint]

I've read three pages and really can't be arsed to read any more...particularly comments from those that didn't even see the game.

 

My perspective & ratings

 

I loved being on a terrace again...great atmosphere & credit our end for outsinging the home crowd throughout. Cortese song needs some practise but that & the Markus chants were good to hear,,,as was the support of Chaplow & the gentle lack of hair **** take at the beginning...the rest of the players loved it!

 

Before this week I'd have taken 4 points out of 6...sure we had the chance to make it 6 but this is football, they are the league's highest scorers at home & the wind was always going to make it difficult for both teams.

 

In footballing terms we were superior but you can see why they score so many goals...I think KD was at fault for his positioning for their first goal but let's not forget that it was their first because he'd saved superbly a few minutes earlier. I don't think Seaborne covered himself in glory but was generally the one marking M-Smith who excelled in the conditions and had a point to prove. Otherwise I think we were slightly unlucky with the last penalty decision. I think two of the poster's comments on the pages I did read summed up the ref's game correctly -3 out of the 4 decisions were average at best & the 4th was just wrong...I also agree that he got carried away with the excitement.

 

Ratings

 

Kelvin - 6 - made one costly mistake but will know it an d has the nouse to get over it

 

Harding - 6 - would have been higher but got himself in to a running battle with the ref and needed to be substituted...unprofessional.

 

Fonte - 7 - kept his side pretty quiet & was unlucky at the other end

 

Seaborne - 6 - looked a little lacking in strength & experience against M-Smith

 

Butterfield - 6 -struggled at times to keep with their forwards..nearly scored a peach of a goal.

 

Hammond - 8 - looked like the captain he is..daft free kick at the end but what a goal!

 

Chaplow - 8 - grafted classily throughout..almost wish he'd decked the fat, fake Fergie when they came together on the touchline

 

AOC - 6 - flashes of speed & brilliance but only 17 ffs...definitely didn't handle for penalty

 

Guly - 6 - a little quiet by his standards and a bit blustery blood & guts English football for him to shine..silly booking

 

Barny - 7 - Chased everything, set up the first goal & did everything but score...will have been knackered at the end

 

Ricky - 8 - 90% back to his best...great penalties some superb lay-offs & was always available..no worries as to his form for the rest of the season.

 

Dickson - 7 - Came on to do Harding's job & did it well in the time he was on

Richardson - 6 - Came on for Guly assumedly to shore up the lead...didn't really....

Forte - 6 - Didn't really have time to make an impression but one burst of speed & control had the terrace applauding..look forward to seeing more

 

Nige - 6 - Difficult game to influence but I can't see that he did anything wrong...Peterborough can be unplayable...we stood toe to toe and with a bit more luck would have won.

 

Ref - 5 - About equally crap for both teams in fairness.

 

I think we're well set-up for the rest of the season...there's no lack of fight, skill in abundance & depth in the squad. I think that Jaidi/Fonte is the best pairing generally but Seaborne is learning all the time & we're unlikely to get more than another season out of Jaidi. I can understand why NA preferred him against a quick & mobile front line today & he too will grow from his experience - playing alongside Fonte is great for any defender. Yes we miss Lallana - who wouldn't - but we still have him to come back in which increases my optimism for the next 57 points available...for me automatic promotion is still very much on.

[corky morris]

Never been to a game like it, it was totally surreal. It seemed every time we sang "up the football league we go" we conceded a goal. Sometimes we are too cocky for our own good ! Peterborough are a good side so drawing away was a good result, if we keep plugging away we will get automatic promotion..

 

When we go up please buy Craig M-Smith, he was awesome - speed / strength and most of all desire !

 

I was raging in the seats when we started singing that!!!! 37 years of watching Saints teaches you never to wallow in our success until at least 6 months after we have had it & only then when you checked that it has actually happened without any doubt 10 times. Please no more of those songs until we are promoted!!!!

[um pahars]

I was raging in the seats when we started singing that!!!! 37 years of watching Saints teaches you never to wallow in our success until at least 6 months after we have had it & only then when you checked that it has actually happened without any doubt 10 times. Please no more of those songs until we are promoted!!!!

 

Were you the guy with a young lad about halfway up in the middle block of seats (few spare seats behind him)??? As he was going mental when that chant got going!!!!!!

 

I'm not sure it had any effect on the outcome, but having watched Saints for almost 40 years I have to agree that I'd only be singing that song when we're ten points clear of 3rd with one game left (even then I'd be worried that the League would unearth a crass rule and deduct us 10 points for some obscure reason!!!!).

[captainchris]

We are looking more and more Pardewesque ................Long balls a plenty, vulnerable to pace, loosing the midfield, unable to react to dominant opposition tactics, sticking to two up front - if not almost three when we can't get hold of the ball..........We can't keep the ball so we bring on Richardson who has completed two passes to his team mates all season! If Richardson is the answer what is the question?

[corky morris]

Agree with everything you say Ade, Seaborne got mugged off for the first, him and Harding should have dealt with the cross and what the f*ck was he doing for their pen? It was as clear as you can get. Their 4th was harsh, we couldn't really tell from our end and having now seen the reply it although it hit him on the arm he was only 5 foot away and had his back to the ball, his arms weren't even outstreached or above his head. Very harsh but our second pen was soft as well. I dont know what Martin has done wrong but he looked good when he came in earlier this season.

For me playing AOC in the middle doesn't work, and as you say quite why he didn't bring N'Gessen on and switch to 4-4-2 or even 4-5-1 at 4-2 up is beyond me, close the game out and hit them on the break as they were chasing it with AOC and N'Gessens pace on the break. Overall a draw was a fair result and i'd have happily taken 4 points from these two away games but to give away a two goal lead twice in the same game is disapointing.

 

Agree with you mate. AOC kept talking to someone on the bench about where he should be & what he was doing etc. Also made me smile when they had the clip board out before Fraze came on. As if he is gonna take a blind bit of notice........

Ferguson is a real tosser. That interview was embarrassing. He made himself look like a total tool. Their right back could have easily been sent off. I think what ****ed off Saints more was not that Chaplow got booked, because in fairness it was a booking, but that the right back went through the back of Branard twice. Gave a away the pen & then caught Harding & Dixon & never got booked. He could easily got sent off. As for Fergusons comments about Chaplow. Clearly no love lost there. Chaplow proved him wrong though. He was our best player last night.

I wonder if we could play a 4-5-1 formation with Morgan the deepest central midfielder & Chaplow, Hammond, AOC & Lallana breaking from midfield? The kind that Hoddle had us playing in the prem???

Jaidi would have been worse than Seabourne yesterday as he has no pace whatsoever. What it shows for me though is that if or when we do get promoted letting Jaidi & Seabourne go & try to sign the best central defender in the champ. Not sure who that is mind........................

[corky morris]

Were you the guy with a young lad about halfway up in the middle block of seats (few spare seats behind him)??? As he was going mental when that chant got going!!!!!!

 

I'm not sure it had any effect on the outcome, but having watched Saints for almost 40 years I have to agree that I'd only be singing that song when we're ten points clear of 3rd with one game left (even then I'd be worried that the League would unearth a crass rule and deduct us 10 points for some obscure reason!!!!).

 

Yep - with the red jacket on..................its too many years of watching Saints...........!!

[spyinthesky]

Think one of the big problems for players of both teams was the very hard pitch and swirling wind

 

But hey an 8 goal thriller, that's what football used to be like

 

We gained two last minute points at Exeter and lost two last night

 

Need to make sure we maximise possibilities in next 3 gmes

[Saint J 77]

As always when you throw away a comfortable lead,this feels like we lost right now. The bigger picture shows we got a fairly decent point against a difficult team who have a good record at home. They also had "New Manager Syndrome" in their favour. So I guess its not so bad a result. But seeing Brighton and Huddersfield winning so comfortably again and our side appearing not strong enough to hold on it makes automatic promotion all that further away right now

[um pahars]

Yep - with the red jacket on..................its too many years of watching Saints...........!!

 

LOL, I'll be honest we did have a chuckle at your expense, but we also remembered the singing of "It's just like watching Brazil" whilst 2-0 up at Middlesbrough (BTW can anyone explain why one has Brough and the other Borough?) only to cling on for a draw.

 

I think if we hadn't been laughing at the amount of people going absolutely mental when they scored their fourth then we would have either been throwing those wooden seats on the pitch or climbing up the floodlights to throw oursleves off!!!!!!!

 

It is indeed too many years of watching Saints!!!!!!!!!

[Saint Without a Halo]

I reckon we need abot 88 to 90 points to go up automatically! that means almost the same number of points in our remaining 19 games as we have got in the 27 to date.

 

Not much room for a lot of dropped points from here on in!

[shurlock]

I wonder if we could play a 4-5-1 formation with Morgan the deepest central midfielder & Chaplow, Hammond, AOC & Lallana breaking from midfield? The kind that Hoddle had us playing in the prem???

Jaidi would have been worse than Seabourne yesterday as he has no pace whatsoever. What it shows for me though is that if or when we do get promoted letting Jaidi & Seabourne go & try to sign the best central defender in the champ. Not sure who that is mind........................

 

Agree, especially when we go away. There's a good argument for playing Chaplow, Hammond and Schneiderlin together, with Chappers as the most mobile. Its crucial to win the midfield battle first, then get the goals. I would rest Oxo for the next few away games and go with Gully/N'guessan and Lallana just behind Lambert, pulling wide where necessary. Would effectively be a 4-3-2-1.

[Dig Dig]

I wish we signed CMS, he tore us apart at every opportunity last night. His contest with Seabourne was comical.

 

He's just brett ormerod on speed

[shurlock]

He's just brett ormerod on speed

 

According to the posh fans, he's not that quick - yes he's lively and a willing worker; but he's not a raw pace merchant. There are no excuses for Seaborne getting done for that first goal.

[PokingFun]

Hmm champions do not let two goal leads slip twice in one game, hang on in there saints you have a slim chance of making it through the play off lottery.

 

Arsenal? Have they not been champions before?!?! Man Yoo v Everton?!?! Your comment is untrue.

[up and away]

Great game but Peterborough never ever gave up. Fair play to them. I thought we were going to sneak it but never mind. Still in the hunt for second place.

 

The leg room in the stands was ridiculous.

 

The major issue with this being that Posh had given up to a certain degree. Seaborne had a simple job of getting his body in the correct position between ball and attacker and this would never of happened. It's only then does an imaginary switch flick over and Posh and Saints are completely different teams.

 

Kelvins part in this is less, but he has a major weakness in this league in that he is physically limited and intimidated to the extent he is a liability in the box under certain conditions. I am pretty sure the vast majority of Saints fans had no issues with Richard Wright being picked before him previously, but as stated at the time and subsequent history, he is not that good a keeper. But that physical presence in this league is vital, something Wright had in spades. If Adkins does not think Bart is good enough, get someone else in please!

[PokingFun]

We were v poor today. That's made me realise that seaborne is not up to it and neither of our leftbacks are good enough. Without morgan we have no one to pass the ball. Hammond giving away freekick at the end was just awful and seaborne giving away penalty WTF??

 

We scored 4 goals FFS, defensively we were poor but not poor overall. Why can't people accept that we will not win every game. We have taken 10 points from last 5 away games which is excellent. We need to look at the bigger picture here. We are still achieving an average of 2 points per game. Continue that and we will go up. Most people getting wound up on here are simply knee jerking.

[Dig Dig]

According to the posh fans, he's not that quick - yes he's lively and a willing worker; but he's not a raw pace merchant. There are no excuses for Seaborne getting done for that first goal.

 

He is quick, i saw him on telly! He may not be "jonno quick" but he would out sprint most CB's in this league. His shot was poor and should have been saved

[corky morris]

LOL, I'll be honest we did have a chuckle at your expense, but we also remembered the singing of "It's just like watching Brazil" whilst 2-0 up at Middlesbrough (BTW can anyone explain why one has Brough and the other Borough?) only to cling on for a draw.

 

I think if we hadn't been laughing at the amount of people going absolutely mental when they scored their fourth then we would have either been throwing those wooden seats on the pitch or climbing up the floodlights to throw oursleves off!!!!!!!

 

It is indeed too many years of watching Saints!!!!!!!!!

 

No worries - I remember Middlesborough as well, Everton, Spurs - there are millions of games its happened. Its as if as soon as we start doing it, we **** up!!

 

I was as calm as you like when the 4th went in. It was inevitable.............after all, its Saints!

[Window Cleaner]

He is quick, i saw him on telly! He may not be "jonno quick" but he would out sprint most CB's in this league. His shot was poor and should have been saved

 

I thought he was quick as well and strong to boot.

[The Cat]

I thoroughly enjoyed yesterday's game. Was great to stand on a proper terrace with a roof to help the atmosphere (unlike Exeter!)

 

Yes a little annoying to surrender a 2 goal lead twice, but fair play to Posh, they never gave up and put us under a lot of pressure.

 

Our fans were good yesterday, although I'd appreciate it if we could resist the crushingly tedious chants of "I've got a shed" and "you f'ing live in a sh i t hole" especially as some of the people joining in with the second probably live in Millbrook or Thornhill.

[Saint_clark]

Our defence is just not solid enough to be consistent

 

Rubbish, our defence has been the most consistently strong part of the team. Peterborough have the best attack in the league, THAT is why we drew. It's disappointing to throw away a two goal lead twice, but a point is good enough - it's not as if we did it against Walsall or something.

[MarkSFC]

and people think Seaborne is good enough for a team looking to play in the championship next season. Arguably at fault for the first three goals, definitely 1 and 3!

 

AS I've said before, he's ok in this league against ok opposition, those without guile or pace or when he has plenty of space and time. When he's under pressure with ball at feet or has to make a quick decision he is not good enough to make the difference. He got caught out by CMS pace, amixture of not reacting quick enough to the situation and a lack of actual pace. For the 3rd goal he got done by quick movement. God help us against Bournemouth, Brighton, and Charlton if he plays!

 

Although he made a couple of great saves and came for one or two crosses, again Kelvin was not good enough. Beaten at your near post for the first, static for the second, and well clueless for the pens!! How bad does he need to be for Bart to get a go?!!

 

Still, overall despite the goals I think we were a litttle fortunate to come away with a point because in the second half I thought P'Boro were far better, indee for the whole game they played with a quicker tempo and had more pace and maybe energy to their play. They are a good side, despite their defensive record and will definitely be be top 6 so all in all taking 4 points off them is not too bad.

 

It was an enjoyable game BUT, had we gone 3 up......!!!!

[Saint_clark]

Seaborne was not at fault for the first goal - he never had it in reach so couldn't have just booted it out, and Mackail-smith was simply quicker. Davis should have done much, much better. All he had to do was stick his foot out to the right a bit.

I noticed for the second Harding was going nuts at everyone but it was HIS man that had a completely free header. I think Hardings quality, but i'd probably put Dickson in for the next game.

[Jonnyboy]

Twas a good day for Huddersfield ...:-(

[red&white56]

A lot of posters have singled out Harding for criticisim but every time they attacked down our left flank they had 2 or even 3 players there making a monkey out us. We didn't adapt to this tactic at all and there was no real cover from midfield.

 

I thought we lost a plot of possession in mid-field, Guly didn't have a particularly good game, nor did Alex - Chaplow was excellent and Deano had a good game but we kept losing out on the second ball and that forced us into playing the long ball to Ricky (who had two markers on him all the time). Fonte had a good game and helped mop up a lot of things.

 

I felt Kelvin should had a better effort on the first goal, and the second should have been cleared.

 

However, I really enjoyed the game, the POSH fans were good to talk to - they really rated Brighton who beat them 4-0 at home. Some good pubs with good beer. Iwas disappointed last night but today I'm happy we took the point.

 

Great support from the Saints fans - particularly from the "morph men" from Eastleigh who kept the singing and chanting going most of the match. Did anyone get a photo of them ?

[red&white56]

Posh always looked like they were going to score and we rode our luck with there constant pressure. Thought Posh out sung us in the end as well : ( Was never a hand ball !

 

Maybe, but they hardly had a song all game before the end - very poor for saying how strong they are at home.