alpine_saint Posted 4 February, 2011 Posted 4 February, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12355022 If someone in the UK will be able to watch Greek satellite football matches, why shouldnt for example someone in Austria be able to watch British satellite football matches ? If the EU is a single market, any EU citizen should be able to watch whichever European TV channels it wants.
scotty Posted 4 February, 2011 Posted 4 February, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12355022 If someone in the UK will be able to watch Greek satellite football matches, why shouldnt for example someone in Austria be able to watch British satellite football matches ? If the EU is a single market, any EU citizen should be able to watch whichever European TV channels it wants. No reason at all. Fill your boots!!
Window Cleaner Posted 4 February, 2011 Posted 4 February, 2011 No reason at all. Fill your boots!! there are people who install Sky boxes in Europe, costs a lot of money though.
buctootim Posted 4 February, 2011 Posted 4 February, 2011 there are people who install Sky boxes in Europe, costs a lot of money though. Had it set up in France which wasnt too dear. These guys do Austria. http://storesatellite.com/sky-tv-austria.php
saint_bert Posted 4 February, 2011 Posted 4 February, 2011 Dont expect to be able to find too many sains games being shown though
st alex Posted 4 February, 2011 Posted 4 February, 2011 If this completely undercuts Sky, then will it result in smaller TV rights deals for the PL in the future?
Window Cleaner Posted 4 February, 2011 Posted 4 February, 2011 Had it set up in France which wasnt too dear. These guys do Austria. http://storesatellite.com/sky-tv-austria.php Yeah we had Sky when we lived in Paris but as it's not on the same satellite as Canal Sat now we'd have to have 2 dishes and as we are within 200 yards of a listed building the local council (if you can call it that, more a collection of old busybodies) won't weather a second 90 cm dish and as I don't want them to go on about our solar panels again ............
Viking Warrior Posted 4 February, 2011 Posted 4 February, 2011 Alpine may I suggest you speak to the austrian authorities about this or complain to european courts and say you human rights have been violated. the eec wil soon listen then
benjii Posted 4 February, 2011 Posted 4 February, 2011 Most expats will already have been able to figure this out as expats are more intelligent than the average person, what with their ability to secure a job abroad.
Saint_clark Posted 4 February, 2011 Posted 4 February, 2011 If this completely undercuts Sky, then will it result in smaller TV rights deals for the PL in the future? I'm sure the vast majority of their customers don't buy sky just for Premier League football.
hutch Posted 4 February, 2011 Posted 4 February, 2011 Most expats will already have been able to figure this out as expats are more intelligent than the average person, what with their ability to secure a job abroad. Thanks. We don't very often get the praise we deserve on here
Flyer Posted 4 February, 2011 Posted 4 February, 2011 If this completely undercuts Sky, then will it result in smaller TV rights deals for the PL in the future? EU football rights are £66m a year so I think Sky will bid for EU wide rights next time and then the EU could get involved saying its a monopoly so it could get really nasty in the next contract.
The9 Posted 4 February, 2011 Posted 4 February, 2011 EU football rights are £66m a year so I think Sky will bid for EU wide rights next time and then the EU could get involved saying its a monopoly so it could get really nasty in the next contract. Pretty much what I'm expecting too - the Premier League can't restrict broadcasting to just one specific country within the EU so they'll have to offer pan-EU rights which INCLUDE the UK to one broadcaster to ensure the broadcaster doesn't allow it to happen, instead. I'd suggest that as long as it's an open tender for the pan-EU business, the EU won't have a problem with there being only one supplier - there will still have to be local installers as well. More importantly, UK tv rights are dwarfed by the Overseas (£1bn) combined tv deal(s) and this doesn't stop international web-streaming from outside the EU which anyone could feed into a pub anyway, so it's really missing the point as far as stopping people seeing Prem matches for free goes. But it would be a Skate cheat pushing the boundaries of the law with their sense of entitlement, wouldn't it...?
The9 Posted 4 February, 2011 Posted 4 February, 2011 I'm sure the vast majority of their customers don't buy sky just for Premier League football. Unlike in 1993.
norwaysaint Posted 4 February, 2011 Posted 4 February, 2011 I don't really understand what you're all talking about. I've had a sky box here in Norway for years. I bought it for 40 quid in England and set it up myself in a few minutes. What would you need someone to do for you?
trousers Posted 4 February, 2011 Posted 4 February, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12355022 If someone in the UK will be able to watch Greek satellite football matches, why shouldnt for example someone in Austria be able to watch British satellite football matches ? If the EU is a single market, any EU citizen should be able to watch whichever European TV channels it wants. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?28024-The-beginning-of-the-end-for-the-Premier-League-cash-cow
Gingeletiss Posted 4 February, 2011 Posted 4 February, 2011 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?28024-The-beginning-of-the-end-for-the-Premier-League-cash-cow Thats not fair, Alps likes to have his own thread on these things, and on the main board as well!
trousers Posted 4 February, 2011 Posted 4 February, 2011 Thats not fair, Alps likes to have his own thread on these things, and on the main board as well! ;-)
The Cat Posted 4 February, 2011 Posted 4 February, 2011 Broadband users can already watch a stream of any game that's live on tv anywhere in the world for free. The only way the thread title will come to fruition is if clubs start selling their tv rights individually. Even in League 1 Saints would potentially have enough purchasers to make that economically viable.
Boris Karloff Posted 4 February, 2011 Posted 4 February, 2011 In a way this could be good news for Sky. At the moment they aren't allowed to actively court business in Europe although thousands of people watch Sky ("illegally"). The way I see this ruling it means that anyone in Europe should be entitled to watch Sky if they want, thus opening up a huge new revenue stream for Sky.
paris Posted 4 February, 2011 Posted 4 February, 2011 We have Canal Sat on cable no dish required....
Window Cleaner Posted 4 February, 2011 Posted 4 February, 2011 We have Canal Sat on cable no dish required.... because you live in Paris, we live in a village of about 600 souls.
mcjwills Posted 4 February, 2011 Posted 4 February, 2011 Yeah we had Sky when we lived in Paris but as it's not on the same satellite as Canal Sat now we'd have to have 2 dishes and as we are within 200 yards of a listed building the local council (if you can call it that, more a collection of old busybodies) won't weather a second 90 cm dish and as I don't want them to go on about our solar panels again ............ Why not change to a motorised dish that can change to different satellites you want to view?
Window Cleaner Posted 5 February, 2011 Posted 5 February, 2011 Why not change to a motorised dish that can change to different satellites you want to view? Hadn't thought of that..
Brussels Saint Posted 5 February, 2011 Posted 5 February, 2011 I don't really understand what you're all talking about. I've had a sky box here in Norway for years. I bought it for 40 quid in England and set it up myself in a few minutes. What would you need someone to do for you? Thats not the point. Sky don't know you are in Norway watching their channels, if they did they would cut it off due to the aforementioned rights issues. You have to have your sky box and registration linked to a UK address and credit card. What hopefully this ruling will mean is we can register for Sky with a European address and become a customer legally.
alpine_saint Posted 5 February, 2011 Author Posted 5 February, 2011 In a way this could be good news for Sky. At the moment they aren't allowed to actively court business in Europe although thousands of people watch Sky ("illegally"). The way I see this ruling it means that anyone in Europe should be entitled to watch Sky if they want, thus opening up a huge new revenue stream for Sky. Exactly. There is a minor problem, however. Its called the BBC, who have an almost spiteful attitude towards ex-pats picking up their services. The BBC would probably stay on the tight Astra1D transponders covering (badly) the UK. I dont really understand why here in Austria I cannot pay the UK licence fee and have the right to receive the BBC. Single market and all that (actually, I don know what the problem is. Its the Germans and French, who have resisted attempts to completely de-regulate the TV and Radio market in the EU, because they know it will kill their languages stone-cold dead).
alpine_saint Posted 5 February, 2011 Author Posted 5 February, 2011 there are people who install Sky boxes in Europe, costs a lot of money though. Had it set up in France which wasnt too dear. These guys do Austria. http://storesatellite.com/sky-tv-austria.php Thanks for the info guys, but the problem is still it will be Sky minus the BBC and ITV unless I connect a dish the size of Jodrell Bank. Strangely enough, the satellite TV companies in both Austria and Germany have recently changed their names to Sky. Apparently its nothing to do with Sky UK (unlike the Italian Sky), but both felt it the name is liniked with success in this business so they licenced the name and corporate logos.
alpine_saint Posted 5 February, 2011 Author Posted 5 February, 2011 Thats not the point. Sky don't know you are in Norway watching their channels, if they did they would cut it off due to the aforementioned rights issues. You have to have your sky box and registration linked to a UK address and credit card. What hopefully this ruling will mean is we can register for Sky with a European address and become a customer legally. Yep. Fingers crossed.
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