trousers Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12355022 "Broadcasters cannot stop customers using cheaper foreign satellite TV equipment to watch Premier League football, an EU legal adviser has said. A non-binding opinion from advocate Juliane Kokott of the European Court of Justice said a block breached EU laws. Portsmouth pub landlady Karen Murphy, fined for using Greek decoders, had argued the EU single market should let her use any European provider. Sky has the exclusive broadcast rights for Premier League football in the UK. The satellite broadcaster has pumped billions into top flight English football since the league was founded in 1992, with the money given to clubs allowing them to buy some of the top names in the world." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 Good. I hope the whole thing comes crashing down and evens things out a bit. The gulf in TV revenue for prem teams compared to the rest of the league is completely out of touch with reality. It's about time something like this happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-scooby Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 Ironic she is from Portsmouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickn Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 Ironic she is from Portsmouth That's why she's doing it, to get a level playing field because it's so unfair on Pompey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 i would change at a drop of a hat, the only thing is that Sky then might not serve the quality in future as they have less revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefunkygibbons Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 All that means is that Sky will charge the Greeks more, not the UK viewers less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 Worth bearing in mind that the recommendations (and that's all they are at this stage) refer only to domestic use, so pubs still won't be able to show 3pm kickoffs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 Anything which potentially levels the playing field a little has got to be good for the vast majority of clubs. I guess it might impact the ability of English clubs to compete in the Champions League etc but the present set up pretty much rules that out for clubs like Saints anyway so I don't care that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 It would be fantastic if it all came crashing down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 i thought i heard today that the ruling was due tomorrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 Thing is, at least with the current deal the lower leagues do get some money, if this ruling goes against sky, surely that will mean even less for lower leagues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 It would be fantastic if it all came crashing down. This! Can't be too long now (false rumours that Everton were on the brink earlier). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 Thing is, at least with the current deal the lower leagues do get some money, if this ruling goes against sky, surely that will mean even less for lower leagues? but it might narrow the gap between the football league and the premier league, which is favourable for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 Most of the problems in football can be sorted with a very simple rule change. You can only spend x% of your turnover on wages and only y% of your turnover on transfers. Let's say x and y added up to about 60%. That way clubs are left with 40% to spend on running costs improving their infrastructure. There's loads of benefits to it. - The big clubs still get the biggest transfer and wage budgets as their turnover is much higher. - Smaller clubs like Pompey wouldn't be allowed to spend way beyond their means to try and stay in the Prem. Everyone has to live within their means. If that doesn't give you the players to stay in the Prem, you don't deserve to be ther. - No sugar daddies bankrolling clubs like Man City and Chelsea ruining English football. - Smaller clubs have more chance of holding on to players like Walcott, AOC, Lallana etc. - Better infrastructure being developed at grounds. This means: - - Better youth set ups, more home grown tallent and a better national side. - - Fewer matches postponed as more grounds have undersoil heating, better covers, drainage etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 but it might narrow the gap between the football league and the premier league, which is favourable for us. not if there is less money for lower leagues it wont be, yes ok, maybe we will be ok but there will be those that suffer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 Most of the problems in football can be sorted with a very simple rule change. You can only spend x% of your turnover on wages and only y% of your turnover on transfers. Let's say x and y added up to about 60%. That way clubs are left with 40% to spend on running costs improving their infrastructure. There's loads of benefits to it. - The big clubs still get the biggest transfer and wage budgets as their turnover is much higher. - Smaller clubs like Pompey wouldn't be allowed to spend way beyond their means to try and stay in the Prem. Everyone has to live within their means. If that doesn't give you the players to stay in the Prem, you don't deserve to be ther. - No sugar daddies bankrolling clubs like Man City and Chelsea ruining English football. - Smaller clubs have more chance of holding on to players like Walcott, AOC, Lallana etc. - Better infrastructure being developed at grounds. This means: - - Better youth set ups, more home grown tallent and a better national side. - - Fewer matches postponed as more grounds have undersoil heating, better covers, drainage etc. I did hear today that this rule (or one very similar) is coming into force from 2012 i think it was. Platinini's idea apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 Big lol at the PL spokesman on the news tonight warning that this ruling might result in the rise of a pan-european broadcaster which would apparently be bad news for individual broadcasters and give viewers less choice. Given Sky's complete monopoly on screening prem games over the last two decades (almost), does he really not see the hypocrisy in that warning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 (edited) I did hear today that this rule (or one very similar) is coming into force from 2012 i think it was. Platinini's idea apparently Good interview here with agent Barry Silkman. The guy is a total ****, but speaks a lot of sense about the new spending rules - how easy they are to avoid. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/9384304.stm Edited 3 February, 2011 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 4 February, 2011 Share Posted 4 February, 2011 Could this take The Premier League to the next level of spending insanity. Currently the £1.bn three season deal was arrived at from an auction of the Uk rights to Uk broadcastors. The matches are divided into 6 tranches, IIRC, 5 to sky and 1 to espn (to keep the EU quiet). If the net result of this is as the PL spokesman suggests, a pan european rights package, then there could be a much more fierce auction for each tranche, meaning more money for the PL paid ultimately by us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 4 February, 2011 Share Posted 4 February, 2011 Frankly, until we are in the Prem, I couldn't give a monkey. Oh I know Sky show an odd game or two from nPL and L1/2 but they do that to both keep the authorities quiet, competitors from getting it (although ITV didn't do well) and also to fill out their schedule a bit. I got rid of Sky because I have very little interest in PL games as I do not support any of the teams there. Therefore for interests sake, MotD suffices. Sky and the PL (or rather, usually but not always, the teams that are safe) are far too arrogant and need to come down a peg or two and look at the bottom of the pyramid. Take away the bottom (or let it fail) and then the top will not be able to be supported. The biggest shame since Sky came about is the demise of the national team. It has got so bad, and is so full of prima donnas, and is so boring, I hardly ever watch the matches and I certainly don't get excited with the anticipation of a forthcoming match. I did in the 1990 WC but since then........maybe a little in Portugal, but that was the nail in the coffin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 4 February, 2011 Share Posted 4 February, 2011 Frankly, until we are in the Prem, I couldn't give a monkey. Oh I know Sky show an odd game or two from nPL and L1/2 but they do that to both keep the authorities quiet, competitors from getting it (although ITV didn't do well) and also to fill out their schedule a bit. I got rid of Sky because I have very little interest in PL games as I do not support any of the teams there. Therefore for interests sake, MotD suffices. Sky and the PL (or rather, usually but not always, the teams that are safe) are far too arrogant and need to come down a peg or two and look at the bottom of the pyramid. Take away the bottom (or let it fail) and then the top will not be able to be supported. The biggest shame since Sky came about is the demise of the national team. It has got so bad, and is so full of prima donnas, and is so boring, I hardly ever watch the matches and I certainly don't get excited with the anticipation of a forthcoming match. I did in the 1990 WC but since then........maybe a little in Portugal, but that was the nail in the coffin. The point about the national team seems a good one on the face of it, I read that and thought "+1", then realised that actually we've always been shlte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 4 February, 2011 Share Posted 4 February, 2011 In 1982 we did OK. We won our 3 group games against France, Czech and the mighty Kuwait. (Goals for 6, against 1). Second round we drew both our games 0-0 and were eliminated for coming second in the group to West Germany. In 1986 we did OK. Second in our group to Morocco but got to the ¼ finals and Hand of God. 1990 Semi-finals although not overly convincing especially against Cameroon and Belgium, nor in the group games, but we still finished top. So maybe you are right and I look at the team through rose tinted glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-scooby Posted 4 February, 2011 Share Posted 4 February, 2011 So where do you get the equipment ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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