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Yes, most definitely a pedant.

 

I grew up around that area and went to school at Bitterne Park (which I assume you did too going by your username), and in all that time I never once heard the place referred to as Bitterne Park Triangle.

I have always heard it as either Bitterne Triangle or just The Triangle. In fact, in the days when buses had conductors and they used to call out the names of the bus stops, they used to shout "Triangle".

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I never went to the zoo, but I believe it is on the site of what is now the Hawthorns Nature Centre. If I'm right, it must have been tiny, a couple of elephants & it would have been full up.

 

I went quite a few times, remember the chimp and the other animals, I guess by today's standards they would of all been suffering from stress.

 

Not far from the old zoo is a road layout so kids could take their cycle proficiency test, think its still there. Then further up on the common you had the Bassett bumps??

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I have always heard it as either Bitterne Triangle or just The Triangle. In fact, in the days when buses had conductors and they used to call out the names of the bus stops, they used to shout "Triangle".

 

Yep, whenever I got the bus it was 'Triangle' or I used to say 'Bitterne Triangle' when I got on the bus. Never heard it called anything else and a mate of mine lives in Bitterne Park and calls it Bitterne Triangle to this very day.

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Funny how I remember all the toy shops. I remember buying all my subbuteo gear from a shop in Portswood, I think it was opporsite the Mitre pub or just down from where Kwik save used to be near the corner of Highfield Road where the mirror place used to be now a kabab shop. Confused, you will be! It was a great toy shop though, but no idea what it was called!

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It certainly wasn't Marwell, but I can remember them having a decent spread of animals - Lions, tigers, various monkeys, Giraffes, zebras, Hippos, Penguins, Sea Lions, Bears, but don't remember elephants!!!!

 

Not the mopsty salubrious of environments (and given today's standards it would be seen as a tad cruel).

 

With mary Chipperfield 'training' animals there it most certainly would um. Surprising how we'd all sit around on a Bank Holiday to watch the results of her inhumane methods of taming animals and be impressed at their apparent respect for her and her cohorts.

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Brilliant:D Only yesterday my Mum was arguing with me about where that was (now in Bitterne Park Triangle of course). She said it was further up near the old bird aviary, I said exactly where it is in that picture. If only Icould get her to use a PC I could point out her error ;)

 

When they put it in Bitterne Triangle were they a bit squiffy? youd think they'd have put it up straight!

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Someone mentioned the coffee supplier in Above Bar. I used to love walking past that place, breathing in deeply.

 

Just a door or so along from there, opposite the old Information Bureau, there used to be a coffee bar - the Tudor? It was a normal cafe on the ground floor but with a coffee bar in the basement. One of my fave haunts in my youth.

 

Another favourite haunt, also a basement, was the Checkpoint coffee bar by the Bargate.

 

Oh happy days :)

 

haha my mum met my dad in there in the mid sixties, now Boozy Rouge.

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Anyone remeber the smoking chimp? It was part of the day out for a grown up to pass it one through the mesh (you could go right up to the cage)

 

Smoking wasn't his only vice or habit!

 

He was also very keen to show his onanistic skills, much to the amusement of us lads who cheered him to his natural conclusion (especially if there were unwitting girls underneath). James his name was.

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What was the name of the other Electrical shop Mr G or Gibbs, there was one in Shirley and then on Marsh lane

Mr G's were on Shirley High Street from the early 70's and later out on Marsh Lane too. (As well as Eastleigh, Winchester, Salisbury & Lymington)

 

There was _also_ another electrical/white goods store called Gibbs on Shirley High Street on the other side of the road to Mr G's a block or two up.

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I used to live on Bassett Green Road. Loved the thought of having lived on such an historic Road.

 

Coincidentally, the beach at the end of my road where our new beautiful cottage, with my beautiful wife, in our new beautiful life, is the spot where Julius Caesar first set foot on English soil.

 

I love local history. It is beautiful.

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I used to live on Bassett Green Road. Loved the thought of having lived on such an historic Road.

 

Coincidentally, the beach at the end of my road where our new beautiful cottage, with my beautiful wife, in our new beautiful life, is the spot where Julius Caesar first set foot on English soil.

 

I love local history. It is beautiful.

 

Do you have a Horse Chestnut tree in your garden?

 

If so it could be the source of the old We came, we saw, we Conkered quote came from!!

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Does anybody use the working mens clubs/CIU anymore?

 

Sometimes they could be a good night for a bunch of us in our late teens during the early '80s.

 

Not been to one for years....

 

 

My last visit was to Hulse Road as we were moving from the Dell. It was on its knnes at that stage, the move from The Dell probably deprived it of its last big payday which only happening every other week did not bode well.

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I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Scullards (a proper pub) , which was in Above Bar next to the Echo Office cut. Also, the Mirabelle, just inside the cut on the left hand side. For us naughty boys skiving off school that was a haven. We used to collect Peter Stuyveson cigarette vouchers and could always blag a few packets from various tobacconists. The beauty of the packets were that they were the soft paper type and it was dead cool to flick a cigarette up.

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If you do not remember the smell of that Coffee wafting around the Junction you are not a Sotonian.Thanks for reminding me.

The shop at The Junction was, I think, called "Importers". I seem to remember that was the only word, in quite big letters, on the shop front. The smell was just magic though!!

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Mr G's were on Shirley High Street from the early 70's and later out on Marsh Lane too. (As well as Eastleigh, Winchester, Salisbury & Lymington)

 

There was _also_ another electrical/white goods store called Gibbs on Shirley High Street on the other side of the road to Mr G's a block or two up.

 

There was one called Hawkyards near foys corner,I think it would be what is now the Worldwide delicatessan and Porko Cafe.

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Always remember walking up the high steet with my mum as a child and the smell of the coffee shop was always intoxicating.

 

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Do you remember the park behind what used to be the Information Bureau? Don't know if the IB is still there - haven't been to that end of the city for donkey's years.

 

I regularly used to sit in that park with a whole gang of people - all dressed in black and wearing no shoes (beatniks we were called). How I didn't get piles I'll never know!

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The shop at The Junction was, I think, called "Importers". I seem to remember that was the only word, in quite big letters, on the shop front. The smell was just magic though!!

 

You're right about the name of the shop, but everyone I knew/know always called it "the coffee shop". I loved the smell, but I never went in there, I guess it was the ancestor of Starbucks, Costa etc.

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Do you remember the park behind what used to be the Information Bureau? Don't know if the IB is still there - haven't been to that end of the city for donkey's years.

 

I regularly used to sit in that park with a whole gang of people - all dressed in black and wearing no shoes (beatniks we were called). How I didn't get piles I'll never know!

 

All the parks in the city centre are still there. I recall the IB at the top of the precinct, so you would need to go down Pound Tree Rd to get to the parks, Palmerstone is on the left & Houndwell on the right.

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All the parks in the city centre are still there. I recall the IB at the top of the precinct, so you would need to go down Pound Tree Rd to get to the parks, Palmerstone is on the left & Houndwell on the right.

 

The Information Bureau I was thinking of was opposite the old Tyrrell and Green shop (and opposite the coffee shop we were all remembering).

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You're right about the name of the shop, but everyone I knew/know always called it "the coffee shop". I loved the smell, but I never went in there, I guess it was the ancestor of Starbucks, Costa etc.

Not quite. I don`t think that you could actually drink coffee in there. They just sold dozens of different type of coffee beans, which they used to roast and grind on the premises. More like an ancestor of Whittards.

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If you do not remember the smell of that Coffee wafting around the Junction you are not a Sotonian.Thanks for reminding me.

 

Always used to get off the bus there going from Swaythling into town. Flower shop on the corner, and then the coffee smell hit you. It was a lovely smell.

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Coffee Importers was owned by a distant relation (second cousin, or something) of mine. She was a miserable old coot.

 

Just along from there was 'Whodat?', a hippy shop that sold things like loon pants and Frank Zappa albums.

 

There was also a men's clothes shop called McQueens, which was the first place in Southampton to sell Kickers (always a bit more upmarket than those common PODS).

 

Other mens' clothes stores I can remember were Abraxas, in the cut way between Above Bar and the H&D bus station and, of course, Squires which I think has been mentioned in other threads.

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The Information Bureau I was thinking of was opposite the old Tyrrell and Green shop (and opposite the coffee shop we were all remembering).

 

Was that what that small brown timber clad building was?

 

The park behind the coffee shop is called East Park, the one that used to have the bird avery in it. I remember you could give the minah birds money through little slots cut in the cage.

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Was that what that small brown timber clad building was?

 

The park behind the coffee shop is called East Park, the one that used to have the bird avery in it. I remember you could give the minah birds money through little slots cut in the cage.

 

No, I was thinking of the park OPPOSITE the coffee shop. It also faced onto the back of the Civic Centre. Is it the park that has the Titanic memorial? I remember the aviary though.

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No, I was thinking of the park OPPOSITE the coffee shop. It also faced onto the back of the Civic Centre. Is it the park that has the Titanic memorial? I remember the aviary though.

 

Known as Watts Park or West Park depending on which map you're looking at. Titanic memorial and Aviary is/was at the top of East Park on same side as the coffee shop. Cenotaph is in Watts Park, now along with a few "interesting" sculptures.

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No, I was thinking of the park OPPOSITE the coffee shop. It also faced onto the back of the Civic Centre. Is it the park that has the Titanic memorial? I remember the aviary though.

 

I should have read what you'd written. :facepalm: The park opposite the coffee shop is Watts Park, with the Cenotaph in it. I think the Titanic Engineers memorial is in East Park (next to where the bird avery stood).

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Apologies if this is going off on a slight tangent but I was looking up some info about part of Southampton t'other day and some interweb geekery found me a picture on the following website, which I then found to have lots of other good (if slightly trainspottery) photos of some of the disused stations around Southampton, and I found it fascinating to match up places with what they look like now...

 

Some of these go way back before even my folks were born but still interesting IMO:

 

Southampton Docks

Southampton Terminus

Southampton West (never even knew this existed)

 

My favourite was this one looking towards where Dock Gate 4 is now, Royal Pier just out of shot on the left:

 

western(alsop_early1930s)docks1.jpg

 

I never knew about the old Northam station either, and this being SaintsWeb found some of the pics interesting showing what used to be on the St Mary's site.

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Great old photo of the Western Docks, presumably taken just before/after WW2

 

re the stations. Soton Docks/Terminus was the original station for Soton (built late 1840's)but was superceded when Southampton West, later Central was built in the 1870's.

 

At that time the water used to run very close to the station until Millbrook Bay was filled in in the 1920/30's.

 

I remember going up to cup tie at Hull on a special train in 1966. Left Soton terminus at 11.00Pm and got into a very foggy Hull about 7 am. Back at 4 am and had to be up at 6am to do my sunday paper round in heavy rain Lost 1-0

 

Also went by train the the FA Cup Semi Final at Villa park v Man Utd in 1963

 

i think there were something like 15 special trains and the sight of seeing all the Saints fans milling round Central Station as we walked down the hill was somrthing I will never forget

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The photo above is from the early 1930's apparently.

At that time the water used to run very close to the station until Millbrook Bay was filled in in the 1920/30's.

Here's a good shot showing that. This, believe it or not (and I didn't at first) is the main line looking from above the Tunnel towards the site of Southampton Central (Southampton West is the station in the picture). So off to the left of the photo nowadays would be Toys'R'Us and West Quay... but back then (1895) it was all water still!

 

southampton%20(before1895)old2.jpg

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Anyone remeber the smoking chimp? It was part of the day out for a grown up to pass it one through the mesh (you could go right up to the cage)

 

I do not remember this myself, but enough of my slightly older family are full of stories about it.

 

Not surprising the place was eventually shut down on the grounds of it being unsuitable for animals. To this day, I tell my kids about the smoking monkeys :)

 

Incidentally, we explored the site after it was shut down. Could still smell the animals.

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The photo above is from the early 1930's apparently.

 

Here's a good shot showing that. This, believe it or not (and I didn't at first) is the main line looking from above the Tunnel towards the site of Southampton Central (Southampton West is the station in the picture). So off to the left of the photo nowadays would be Toys'R'Us and West Quay... but back then (1895) it was all water still!

 

southampton%20(before1895)old2.jpg

 

Minty

What a great shot

The station itself looks like it serves a small seaside town in the west country

I think around this time there were plans for another line into Soton (avoiding the tunnel) which would come down from Didcot

Land was purchased in expectation and this included a prospective new station at Shirley where the park is now, (St James Rd?) opposite the old Childrens Hospital

never seen this before

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