SuperMikey Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 We got any on here? Just looking into some future career paths and would like to hear a bit more about what the job involves etc.
SuperMikey Posted 2 February, 2011 Author Posted 2 February, 2011 Yeah, when I read that back I thought someone would say that...
Gemmel Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 We got any on here? Just looking into some future career paths and would like to hear a bit more about what the job involves etc. Um Pahars Thorpie Dalek :scared:
dune Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 Um Pahars Thorpie Dalek :scared: What a motley crew. SuperDooperMikey you're perfect to join the club.
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 Feel free to PM me SuperMikey, then hopefully this thread will be closed before dunce goes muck spreading... ...too late.
dune Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 Feel free to PM me SuperMikey, then hopefully this thread will be closed before dunce goes muck spreading. .
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 Am applying for a PGCE course as we speak...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 Am applying for a PGCE course as we speak... Gove has got rid of your bursary (unless you're teaching Maths or Science), what an excellent way to encourage people in to the profession!
SuperMikey Posted 2 February, 2011 Author Posted 2 February, 2011 Anything in the humanities really - was thinking Religious Education as I find that quite interesting (although I hated it at school).
LGTL Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 Firstly, the PGCE year will be expensive for you, espicially with the new fee's that are being introduced, although i've not heard how they will affect ITT. Gove also mentioned yesterday that most busaries and all "Golden Hello's" have been removed. You will probably be working 12 hours a day in that year so no time for a p/t job, so seriously think about how you're going to finance it. Half the battle with teaching is getting on the PGCE course in the first place, so undertake at least 2 weeks in a School environment (i'd reccommend a whole term), and look into other avenues that gives you experience with children, such as youth clubs etc. Gove has also stated that anything below a 2:1 at Undergraduate is unacceptable for teaching, so make sure you get at least that. That is just to get into the training year, i'll leave anything beyond that to he experienced teachers among us.
JustMike Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 Feel free to PM me SuperMikey, then hopefully this thread will be closed before dunce goes muck spreading... ...too late. what, him with his HND and a hatred of education? Nooo (love you really Dune)
JustMike Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 Anything in the humanities really - was thinking Religious Education as I find that quite interesting (although I hated it at school). I see you are at Soton Uni already? They do the PGCE there, will be worth having a chat with them. There are different routes you can take into teaching but you will need the PGtips first
JustMike Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 Gove has got rid of your bursary (unless you're teaching Maths or Science), what an excellent way to encourage people in to the profession! have they? I thought it was still in place for IT as well?
dune Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 what, him with his HND and a hatred of education? Nooo (love you really Dune) You Socialists really are snobs.
Gemmel Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 What a motley crew. SuperDooperMikey you're perfect to join the club. Um pahars is a top bloke, Thorpie is raving communist, but seems half decent and Dalek is just a freak. Actually looking back now, i think every school had one of each of these.
SuperMikey Posted 2 February, 2011 Author Posted 2 February, 2011 Thanks LGLL. It's just an avenue i'm exploring at the moment - putting some feelers out for careers after my degree. I would quite like to do it though, but just need to see what else is out there for students atm.
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 have they? I thought it was still in place for IT as well? Ah, they may well have done, you would need to double check the TDA website I guess
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 I've only just seen the revised bursaries etc. I have been completely priced out of any chance of doing a PGCE next year. I expected a cut but didn't expect them to remove the bursary completely and there is now no way I will be able to do what I wanted as I just won't be able to survive.There goes my entire future plans! ****ing ridiculous.
SuperMikey Posted 2 February, 2011 Author Posted 2 February, 2011 FHS, this is what Dunce et al don't realise. It's the whole next generation of teachers, lawyers, nurses, doctors etc being priced out of their courses.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 FHS, this is what Dunce et al don't realise. It's the whole next generation of teachers, lawyers, nurses, doctors etc being priced out of their courses. Exactly. I'm in my final few months of my degree now, had planned to apply for the PGCE this week having compiled my references and organised work experience in various different schools, calling in favours from a lot of people and then this just completely shatters the plans I've been working towards.
dune Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 FHS, this is what Dunce et al don't realise. It's the whole next generation of teachers, lawyers, nurses, doctors etc being priced out of their courses. Labour left us with the largest budget deficit in the G20 and money doesn't grow on tree's.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 Labour left us with the largest budget deficit in the G20 and money doesn't grow on tree's. Neither do apostrophes. I'd be able to teach kids that if I could afford the training.
SuperMikey Posted 2 February, 2011 Author Posted 2 February, 2011 Labour left us with the largest budget deficit in the G20 and money doesn't grow on tree's. Yes, but surely you need doctors, nurses, lawyers, teachers, politicians etc in order to have a functioning society? This just means we'll have to get them from abroad, and we can't have that. FHS, call up your local education board and see what they can do - you might be able to get a local resident bursary or something..
TheCholulaKid Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 It's an insanely busy job. For the first few years you'll probably be doing 12 hour days plus a long day at the weekend. There is ALWAYS something to do so you need to know where to draw the line (and try not to feel guilty about it).
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 Neither do apostrophes. I'd be able to teach kids that if I could afford the training. One of the best repostes i have seen on here in a while. Whats the degree in Super Mikey BTW ?
SuperMikey Posted 2 February, 2011 Author Posted 2 February, 2011 Anthropology, so not particularly job-specific although there are plenty of things I can do with it.
Thedelldays Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 I went to bellemoor...there were some odd teachers there..
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 What I don't really understand is why Maths and Science are seen as key subjects but English isn't?!
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 What I don't really understand is why Maths and Science are seen as key subjects but English isn't?! It's all to do with supply and demand. There are enough English teachers/English graduates going into teaching so they don't need to recruit or make the job seem attractive.
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 It's an insanely busy job. For the first few years you'll probably be doing 12 hour days plus a long day at the weekend. There is ALWAYS something to do so you need to know where to draw the line (and try not to feel guilty about it). I split my 'weekend day' between saturday morning and sunday afternoon. For any people thinking about going in to teaching, 'TheCholulaKid' has given you some valuable advice.
SuperMikey Posted 2 February, 2011 Author Posted 2 February, 2011 The only degree courses that will be receiving governmental funding as of 2012 will be Band A and B subjects, i.e. Laboratory-based subjects. And they're only still getting funding because they couldn't run without the teaching grants. Our Universities are just going to be turned into glorified technological institutions.
dune Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 I split my 'weekend day' between saturday morning and sunday afternoon. For any people thinking about going in to teaching, 'TheCholulaKid' has given you some valuable advice. It must be so tough. No wonder teachers swan off the France for 4 weeks of me time every summer.
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 It must be so tough. No wonder teachers swan off the France for 4 weeks of me time every summer. I don't expect you work any part of your weekend, but never mind, just remember that the income tax you pay, pays for my 13 weeks annual paid holiday. Thanks!
Jonnyboy Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 Gove has got rid of your bursary (unless you're teaching Maths or Science), what an excellent way to encourage people in to the profession! What about maths/science for primary school level?
Jonnyboy Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 I went to bellemoor...there were some odd teachers there.. Some odd kids too
um pahars Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 It's an insanely busy job. For the first few years you'll probably be doing 12 hour days plus a long day at the weekend. There is ALWAYS something to do so you need to know where to draw the line (and try not to feel guilty about it). I know Parkinson's Law is probably evident in every industry/profession, but I have to say it really is true in teaching. You could easily devote every waking hour planning, marking, assessing, form filling, worrying etc etc etc, but as Choula says superbly, you need to know where to draw the line and ensure a degree of work/life balance. SuperMikey, as for specific issues relating to entering teaching, then feel free to PM me (think it might be easier than to get sidetracked by noddy stuff on here and you/I can probably be a bot more frank). I went in through the GTP route after 20 years in the Accountancy Profession/Business Finance, so might not be the same route you're looking at, but more than happy to give advice, tips, help in any way you want.
um pahars Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 Um pahars is a top bloke You're a gent. (Good to see your little 'un the other night, hope we can get something sorted for him and the other lads regarding the cricket).
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 What about maths/science for primary school level? Primary teaching/training is different to secondary so I'm afraid I'll have to direct you to the TDA website
Jonnyboy Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 Primary teaching/training is different to secondary so I'm afraid I'll have to direct you to the TDA website If that Gove has messed with the funding there, I'll mess with him!
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 I would have loved to have been a teacher. I really really enjoyed my time football coaching. I think if i could have picked a job, other than playing for Saints, England and Real Madrid, i think teaching would have been a decent choice. Unfortunately i have had too many jobs over the years i would love to do, and i never was able to make my mind up. Luckily i enjoy doing what i am doing now. I would say go for it mate, but give football coaching a go aswell if you can, its a good crack.
JustMike Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 You Socialists really are snobs. keep 'em coming tory boy
Jonnyboy Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 I would have loved to have been a teacher. I really really enjoyed my time football coaching. I think if i could have picked a job, other than playing for Saints, England and Real Madrid, i think teaching would have been a decent choice. Unfortunately i have had too many jobs over the years i would love to do, and i never was able to make my mind up. Luckily i enjoy doing what i am doing now. I would say go for it mate, but give football coaching a go aswell if you can, its a good crack. erm, but arent you like quite young still? you could easily still get into teaching.
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 erm, but arent you like quite young still? you could easily still get into teaching. 25, and no, not now. Not unless i get annoyed at my job.
LGTL Posted 2 February, 2011 Posted 2 February, 2011 If that Gove has messed with the funding there, I'll mess with him! I'm pretty sure that the Primary bursary has also been abolished. Here is a link to the letter that Gove sent to the TDA; http://www.tda.gov.uk/~/media/resources/about/letter_from_michael_gove_to_tda_on_teacher_training_places.pdf
JustMike Posted 3 February, 2011 Posted 3 February, 2011 I'm pretty sure that the Primary bursary has also been abolished. Here is a link to the letter that Gove sent to the TDA; http://www.tda.gov.uk/~/media/resources/about/letter_from_michael_gove_to_tda_on_teacher_training_places.pdf nice work tory tossers! They will be selling off the forest next.....oh!
trousers Posted 3 February, 2011 Posted 3 February, 2011 nice work tory tossers! They will be selling off the forest next.....oh! The vast majority of 'open to the public' forestry land in this country is already owned and maintained by non-government organisations....
Frank's cousin Posted 3 February, 2011 Posted 3 February, 2011 I went in through the GTP route after 20 years in the Accountancy Profession/Business Finance, so might not be the same route you're looking at, but more than happy to give advice, tips, help in any way you want. I considered this a few years back after 15 years in a medical/clinical marketing environment -got as far spending a week in a school, and had been accepted on a PGCE course at Warwick... was a few quid saved to get through the PGCE year and probationary year - but then we were lucky enough to finally have our daughter on the way so it scuppered the plans as there was simply no way we could afford the mortgage If my wife gave up work and I knew she would want to, at least for a few years. So back to the industry grindstone. I am probably too much an old fart now to do this, but that week in the school was great. I would say to anyone who really wants to teach to go for it - yes the money is crap, yes the hours will be long, but the rewards of educating kids and getting the best out of them must be great. I have several firends who teach, they are knackered , stressed, whinge about Government policy, whinge about crap pay... but always have good stories about successes and none of them would swap it for anything else... especially private sector industry despite the earning shed loads more.
TheCholulaKid Posted 3 February, 2011 Posted 3 February, 2011 I teach physics. Did a science-based degree and then a six month physics enhancement course. This course is offered at various places around the country and you should get funded to do it (although you'll have to be offered a place on a PGCE course first). The enhancement course takes you up to first year undergraduate level so don't worry about doing an A level.
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