EastleighSoulBoy Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 I hope they're ok and i'm pretty sure they will be. Many clubs ''almost fold'' but they never do. Plymouth will be fine i'm sure. Every single club that goes into admin have a "this could be our last game" moment. They wont be liquidated. My hopes exactly. come on you Jaaanerrrs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyboy Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 The aftermath of the failed 2018 bid can't really be helping them. They had a few new directors (eg Sir Roy Gardner, previously of Man Ure) join when the bid was getting going, they jumped immediately Russia got the World Cup and left Plymouth hanging with hude debts. Worryingly Peter Ridsdale is the one trying to get them through this. More worryingly is that he seems to be the only possible hope for them now. That's how bad it must be there... Ridsdale comes in and people go 'ooh, thank goodness for that'. £2m to save them. In other news, Torres transferred for £50m. Is there something wrong with all this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 I hope they go under because we gain an advantage. Let them start again in non league. The same goes for every club than cannot properly pay thir way out of administration. Can I refer folk to a 30k thread in the lounge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 +1. My first concern is Saints. If Plymouth's liquidation helps us go up then that's fine with me. Besides my last boss was an Argyle supporter and he was a pr*ck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 2 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 2 February, 2011 Bet they don't. Just like Blackpool won't get relegated and the newspapers were 100% correct about Alan Pardew's precarious future as Southampton manager. You're wrong so often I feel embarrassed for you. 1) So you know why Pardew was sacked do you? Confident enough to say they were 100% right? 2) 6 points above 18th and 19th in the form table in a league of 20 teams is far from safe! And you have the cheek to make that last comment! Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 Plymouth is the hub for Football in the South-West. They have a huge potential catchment area. The City is to a large extent a "Working City" not a Bompey style retirement home. They SHOULD have been a big club for decades. Anyone looking to divide soccer up "Franchise Style" would always argue for a Big Club in the South West. So WHY have they never been able to make it? Nobody bent the rules for us, nobody outside our fan base really cared or stepped up to the plate (unlike "Poor Plucky Poopey") So it is up to their fans and local businessmen (or Risdale) to save them. I hope they do get saved, but if they DO fail then the sadness is not so much for the passing of a club, but more for Why on Earth could they not fulfill all that potential. I agree with MLG, it looks very bleak for them, it did for us and we were incredibly lucky. Not sure Plymouth is a lucky City, to me it just doesn't quite have that vibe, must be the post war rebuild or just too many negative lay-lines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 Windsor and Eton died today http://www.twohundredpercent.net/?p=10874 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 I hope Plymouth pull through,I would hate any club to go bust as we were only hours away from it happening to us and as a fan it was a horrible experience. Fingers crossed it doesn't happen but it could help our promotion push if it did. Green army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 Not my favourite team in the world, but I really hope they get themselves out of this mess. I'm sure they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 This 'no club actually ceases to exist' argument is nonsense. Look at the way football is going, it is just a matter of time. Non league clubs have gone a few times, but a league club will be liquidated. We were lucky, hopefully Plymouth will be, but a club won't get away with it soon. What a great world it would be if it were Pompey. We're supposed to ignore Aldershot and Maidstone in the early 90s now then ? It has already happened many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 They have a huge potential catchment area. They SHOULD have been a big club for decades. So WHY have they never been able to make it? I hope they do get saved, but if they DO fail then the sadness is not so much for the passing of a club, but more for Why on Earth could they not fulfill all that potential. The problem with the southwest generally (and I say this having been born down there and spending the first 20 odd years of my life there) is that when it comes to sport, folk are generally more interested in apple bobbing, morris dancing and pasty tossing. Anyone who does show an interest in football when growing up will just support one of the big teams as there is no-one inspiring around that area to follow, It’s catch 22 really, as if more people did follow a local team down there, it would become bigger thus gaining more supporters. Would be good to see a team down there grow and become big, but it would take decades to happen. Come on Taunton Town! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 So WHY have they never been able to make it? Indeed Plymouth are a club from the largest urban area (in pop) not to play in the top flight. In my opinion the quicker a team made it to the top division the bigger the club became and the more successful. Plymouth, like Southampton, were denied entry to the Football League because the only southern clubs the Football League was interested in were London clubs. When the Third Division was finally formed the powers that be sought to protect the original, mainly northern, clubs by having a one up one down system. Plymouth were 2nd for six years on the trot in the twenties. With better equity who knows how different the Plymouth story would be and ours for that matter. Southampton were arguably the strongest team in the Southern League in the naughties and was overlooked by the FL yet Chelsea a club only formed in 1905 was invited to join a few years later. Plymouth is my dads side and I went to every round of the 1984 cup run apart from the semi, each round I thought we would meet each other and if it wasn't for Heath (spit) and Reilly it would have been a FA Cup Final to remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 Come on Taunton Town! Peacocks going well this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 Lad I'm work with is a janner season ticket holder and he's text me tonight to say our game against them has been postponed due to the internationals that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 I hope Plymouth pull through,I would hate any club to go bust as we were only hours away from it happening to us and as a fan it was a horrible experience. Fingers crossed it doesn't happen but it could help our promotion push if it did. Green army. Indeed. Wouldn't wish the pain, anguish and suffering we as fans went through last season on anyone (although I imght reconsider that for just one club!!!!). Their supporters will be the innocent victims of a larger problem that stalks football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 I was sat in a hospital here in Austria nursing a poorly child after surgery the day the news broke that the Micky Fialka / Pinnacle b*ll*cks had fallen apart. The effect of the two things together nearly crushed me. I feel for Plymouth fans; anyone with nerve endings should. I am frankly astounded that some "football fans" would be happy to see the club of fellow fans die for the sake of a few measly points. I could scarcely believe it of North London Yobbo or Northern Monkey clubs, but I am disgusted that some of them are Saints fans considering the experience we had is still so raw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLOTH EARS Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 (edited) Yes but one day someone is going to go pop and i wouldn't be suprised if it ends up being a Premier League club. Edited 2 February, 2011 by CLOTH EARS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 (edited) Lad I'm work with is a janner season ticket holder and he's text me tonight to say our game against them has been postponed due to the internationals that day. Have Zimbabwe, DR Congo, Iceland and New Zealand all got matches then, cos we've only got Oxlade-Chamberlain, maybe Schneiderlin and Doble who'll be in U-21 action ? And as far as I can see that'll be on the Wednesday beforehand. Edited 2 February, 2011 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 The effects of them being liquidated would only be positive as far as my life goes. Saints would be second, I want us to be promoted, thats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLOTH EARS Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 The problem with the southwest generally (and I say this having been born down there and spending the first 20 odd years of my life there) is that when it comes to sport, folk are generally more interested in apple bobbing, morris dancing and pasty tossing. Anyone who does show an interest in football when growing up will just support one of the big teams as there is no-one inspiring around that area to follow, It’s catch 22 really, as if more people did follow a local team down there, it would become bigger thus gaining more supporters. Would be good to see a team down there grow and become big, but it would take decades to happen. Come on Taunton Town! See you at T.e.s.t.w.o.o.d Park this saturday then mush! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 Windsor and Eton died today http://www.twohundredpercent.net/?p=10874 Indicates quite well how the Skates would, in fact, almost certainly have been liquidated had HMRC not come up short of the 25% debt proportion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altoniansaints Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 Hate to hear this sort of news about any football club (except one!)! Anyone that is happy to see a football club going through this must have a very short memory! How much did it hurt when we were days from extinction???? I for one hope that this can be sorted out and they carry on, even tho it would be good our league standing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 I was sat in a hospital here in Austria nursing a poorly child after surgery the day the news broke that the Micky Fialka / Pinnacle b*ll*cks had fallen apart. The effect of the two things together nearly crushed me. I feel for Plymouth fans; anyone with nerve endings should. I am frankly astounded that some "football fans" would be happy to see the club of fellow fans die for the sake of a few measly points. I could scarcely believe it of North London Yobbo or Northern Monkey clubs, but I am disgusted that some of them are Saints fans considering the experience we had is still so raw. Good call. Plymouth FC's survival is more important than the health and well being of Saints fans children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 Indicates quite well how the Skates would, in fact, almost certainly have been liquidated had HMRC not come up short of the 25% debt proportion. Some would say that HMRC didn't come up short. Some would say the goalposts were moved... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 Lad I'm work with is a janner season ticket holder and he's text me tonight to say our game against them has been postponed due to the internationals that day. Has that been confirmed yet? Been chasing Plymouth for a while for confirmation as to what is going on with that game with no joy. Need to sort trains etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 Some would say that HMRC didn't come up short. Some would say the goalposts were moved... Yep. That dodgy-looking Greek second-hand car salesman...er...administrator suddenly managed to find 30m of new debt, hence bringing HMRC under the 25% and giving them no say on the CVA. Scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 Good call. Plymouth FC's survival is more important than the health and well being of Saints fans children. Bit OTT that post and not asked for, you know the point he was trying to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthamSteve Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 good call. Plymouth fc's survival is more important than the health and well being of saints fans children. wtf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 Has that been confirmed yet? Been chasing Plymouth for a while for confirmation as to what is going on with that game with no joy. Need to sort trains etc Saw him this morning and he believes so but like everyone else I'll believe it when I see it on the saints website! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 The problem with the southwest generally (and I say this having been born down there and spending the first 20 odd years of my life there) is that when it comes to sport, folk are generally more interested in apple bobbing, morris dancing and pasty tossing. Anyone who does show an interest in football when growing up will just support one of the big teams as there is no-one inspiring around that area to follow, It’s catch 22 really, as if more people did follow a local team down there, it would become bigger thus gaining more supporters. Would be good to see a team down there grow and become big, but it would take decades to happen. Come on Taunton Town! If anyone manages it it'll be Truro City FC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 The problem with the southwest generally (and I say this having been born down there and spending the first 20 odd years of my life there) is that when it comes to sport, folk are generally more interested in apple bobbing, morris dancing and pasty tossing. Anyone who does show an interest in football when growing up will just support one of the big teams as there is no-one inspiring around that area to follow, It’s catch 22 really, as if more people did follow a local team down there, it would become bigger thus gaining more supporters. Would be good to see a team down there grow and become big, but it would take decades to happen. Come on Taunton Town! Morris dancing is not widespread in the South West:lol:Rare south of the Chilterns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 (edited) bbc_matt Matt Slater #pafc fans, who do u believe, Synan or Ridsdale http://bit.ly/hkLOBl? It gets uglier & more serious by the day #footballfinance CLUB STATEMENT Posted on: Thu 03 Feb 2011 THE Plymouth Argyle Board of Directors today released the following statement: "An article in today's newspaper, The Herald, in Plymouth, may lead to the impression that funds are about to be received from our Japanese shareholders that 'are sufficient', implying that the problems created by the identified cash shortfall that currently exists at Plymouth Argyle Football Club will be resolved. "At the time of writing, no new cash has been received from Japan, nor have we had any confirmation that there is likely to be any imminent investment from the Far East which would be of a level previously indicated to us or indeed to the Court. "We are disappointed that any statement may have been made in the public domain that could either intentionally or otherwise been misleading to our creditors or supporters which regard to the real challenge that still faces this club, if we are to secure the funding level that we require. "Everyone at the club is working tirelessly to ensure that a solution can be found but as yet, the task is far from complete." Reminds me of the sort of announcements we used to get in the days/weeks/months before we went into administration.... Edited 3 February, 2011 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 Has Bradley nicked all the money from the changing rooms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 Has that been confirmed yet? Been chasing Plymouth for a while for confirmation as to what is going on with that game with no joy. Need to sort trains etc Same date, brought forward to 12:30 kick-off. (Saturday 26th March) http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2284520,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 Same date, brought forward to 12:30 kick-off. (Saturday 26th March) http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2284520,00.html So not postponed at all then. Somehow didn't think they had enough internationals... funnily enough I'll be at Wales v England that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 February, 2011 Share Posted 3 February, 2011 So not postponed at all then. Somehow didn't think they had enough internationals... funnily enough I'll be at Wales v England that day. Great! What position are you playing, and for whom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 7 February, 2011 Share Posted 7 February, 2011 Some money has come in from a supporters group. Enough to pay the tax man but it still looks precarious for the club to last the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted 7 February, 2011 Share Posted 7 February, 2011 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chester_City_F.C. OK, they disappeared within a year of dropping out of the FL though, but still one of the most recent extinctions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 7 February, 2011 Share Posted 7 February, 2011 I would prefer us to be fourth, and Plymouth remain, than second with them gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 7 February, 2011 Share Posted 7 February, 2011 Great! What position are you playing, and for whom? I shall be sitting somewhere to the side of the pitch, pretending to be neutral until one team goes ahead, as is the wont of the Monmouthshire Mongrel. My dad and everyone around us will be supporting Wales, my wife will be keeping schtum (if she's got any sense) and supporting England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 7 February, 2011 Share Posted 7 February, 2011 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chester_City_F.C. OK, they disappeared within a year of dropping out of the FL though, but still one of the most recent extinctions. Newport County (1912-1989) also went kaput the season after finishing miles bottom of the Football League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 7 February, 2011 Share Posted 7 February, 2011 That's what I said! No, what you said was "Non league clubs have gone a few times, but a league club will be liquidated. We were lucky, hopefully Plymouth will be, but a club won't get away with it soon." Which implies (by saying that it's happened to non-league clubs) that it's never happened to a league club. It has. Which is the point I was making. As opposed to yours, which was that it might happen some time, implying that it hasn't happened before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 February, 2011 Share Posted 7 February, 2011 http://www.plymouthargyle-mad.co.uk/news/tmnw/fletcher_reveals_wage_woe_643750/index.shtml Plymouth captain Carl Fletcher has revealed the players have still not been paid their wages for January. The financially-stricken club were promised cash from Japanese-based directors Yasuaki Kagami and George Synan but there has been no sign of it arriving, and the players have still not received payment more than a week after it was due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 7 February, 2011 Share Posted 7 February, 2011 I would prefer us to be fourth, and Plymouth remain, than second with them gone. i agree we are all part of the same football family and we had alot of suport from other fans when it looked like we could go under. the trouble with society now is we have alot of selfish people and the me me generation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 7 February, 2011 Share Posted 7 February, 2011 Plymouth have a friendly set of fans and they certainly don't deserve this at all. Hopefully we will see them get through this mess and we can get promoted fairly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 February, 2011 Share Posted 7 February, 2011 Plymouth have a friendly set of fans and they certainly don't deserve this at all. Hopefully we will see them get through this mess and we can get promoted fairly. err, no they bloody dont....some of the pikiest I have seen infact.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingbattigger Posted 9 February, 2011 Share Posted 9 February, 2011 WU petition dismissed as the money has been paid. However, there is another chunk due 22 Feb which they don't currently have. Admin is looming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 9 February, 2011 Share Posted 9 February, 2011 err, no they bloody dont....some of the pikiest I have seen infact.. +1. Awful set of fans in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 9 February, 2011 Share Posted 9 February, 2011 Same date, brought forward to 12:30 kick-off. (Saturday 26th March) http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2284520,00.html Am I missing something here? Why does an international in Cardiff affect our game in Plymouth? The only rationale I can see is that some 'fans' might not go to the game because they want to watch the international match on TV, but a) how many club fans are going to make that a priority over their own team's game? and b) most fans won't be home in time to watch a 3pm TV game anyway from a 12.30 ko, so it makes little difference moving it to then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattio Posted 9 February, 2011 Share Posted 9 February, 2011 Am I missing something here? Why does an international in Cardiff affect our game in Plymouth? The only rationale I can see is that some 'fans' might not go to the game because they want to watch the international match on TV, but a) how many club fans are going to make that a priority over their own team's game? and b) most fans won't be home in time to watch a 3pm TV game anyway from a 12.30 ko, so it makes little difference moving it to then. There is a spoons across the road from the ground though maybe they did a deal with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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