Saintandy666 Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 EDL - 'Not racist, but favourite with racists' The EDL is racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 Are you watching Newsnight Verbal? You might learn something. What? That you're Nick Griffin's fluffer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 would you take that line if say, student were marching through town..literally smashing everything up in sight...or because its them, its freedom of speech..?? The two scenarios are completely different Delldays. The whole point of the recent student protests was to make the government aware of just how strongly they felt about the new policies. It was never actually going to influence the government's decision, and I do not in any way condone the violence and vandalism that occurred on these marches, but they have the right to protest about government policy. If you try to apply the same reasoning to the EDL marches then it just makes no sense. For one thing, Islamic extremism is not a government policy (not that I'm aware of anyway). Marching against Islamic extremists just to show them how much their ideas are disliked? Do you really think for one second that radical muslims are going to see the TV footage of one of their marches and think "Oooh, you know what - they're right! I think I'm going to cancel my plans to blow myself up because these kind-hearted people have shown me the error of my ways!"? Do me a favour. What's far more likely is they will see these idiots wearing balaclavas and proudly displaying the Israeli flag and they will actually become more angry and more determined to carry out whatever Jihadist plans they may have. And dune, please don't try and tell me they only display the Star of David 'to prove they are not anti-semitic'. Even someone as narrow-minded and myopic as you cannot seriously believe that can you? Its purpose is to provoke and you know that damn well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 Freedom of speech though bexy I'm sure you champion it so much on other issues.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 Freedom of speech though bexy I'm sure you champion it so much on other issues.... Such as??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 2 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 2 February, 2011 Very good performance against Paxman last night. I thought the left wing BBC would make a fool of him like they did Griffin, but they didn't. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZHkh_zChnc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 Paxman just looked fed up that this idiot was being given air time. Paxman didn't give him a real grilling because he just couldn't be bothered. He wanted that interview to finish as soon as it started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 2 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 2 February, 2011 Paxman just looked fed up that this idiot was being given air time. Paxman didn't give him a real grilling because he just couldn't be bothered. He wanted that interview to finish as soon as it started. He looked fed up because it didn't go as he'd planned. Lefties always get haughty and superious (if that's not a word it should be) when things don't go all their own way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 They seem to be suprised by their success. In trying to alter their image from their far right origins, they face a big challenge, especially as their "voice" is generally through uneducated, blinkered, white young males who cannot portray themselves properly through media outlets. It is interesting that they appreciate they need to change (shows some level of organisational intelligence). But whether they can whilst they attract gobsh!tes who are not media savvy and "support" from nasty, loathsome racists, remains to be seen. However, just as the leaked BNP list of members showed, there is a potentially sizeable number of people (including middle englanders) who could offer their support to an organisation such as the EDL if they were to smarten their act up and try to become a (and i use the term loosely) credible organisation by pitching themselves as a "softer" BNP. All quite worrying really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 2 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 2 February, 2011 I read somewhere that most EDL members were UKIP supporters. This clearly shows they are not like the BNP or the far right, but moderate right wingers (or traditional working class Conservatives). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 I read somewhere that most EDL members were UKIP supporters. This clearly shows they are not like the BNP or the far right, but moderate right wingers (or traditional working class Conservatives). hello mr Goebbels perfected the Big Lie technique of propaganda, which is based on the principle that a lie, if audacious enough and repeated enough times, will be believed by the masses. what a sad little life you lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 I read somewhere that most EDL members were UKIP supporters. This clearly shows they are not like the BNP or the far right, but moderate right wingers (or traditional working class Conservatives). more lies goebbals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 I read somewhere that most EDL members were UKIP supporters. This clearly shows they are not like the BNP or the far right, but moderate right wingers (or traditional working class Conservatives). Richard Price - West Midlands Co-ordinator for the EDL has just been banged up for 3 months for violent behaviour. Also done for possessing indecent images of children and placed on the Sex Offenders Register. (Source - The Times). Doesn't sound like a working-class Conservative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mao Cap Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 hello mr Goebbels perfected the Big Lie technique of propaganda, which is based on the principle that a lie, if audacious enough and repeated enough times, will be believed by the masses. what a sad little life you lead. Indeed. As Marxists, ATLOH will of course familiar with the great Lenin's words, "A lie told often enough becomes the truth". Unfortunately only despicable reactionaries like the Nazis and the Daily Mail ever seem to take this on board. Let's face it, reasonable, rational debate is useless in a democracy. The only way to get anywhere with the thicko majority is to spout an endless stream of FEAR, HATE, FEAR, HATE, PEE-SEE-GON'-MAD FEAR, HATE, FEAR, HATE, GOL'-PLATED PUB-LIK SEK-TAH PEN-SHUNS, FEAR, HATE, FEAR, HATE, IMMIGANTS TOOK AWL THE JOBS, FEAR, HATE, FEAR, HATE, FAHKIN MOOZ-LIMS, FEAR HATE FEAR HATE, BLOODY HUGH-MUN RIGHTS ACT, FEAR, HATE... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 hello mr Goebbels perfected the Big Lie technique of propaganda, which is based on the principle that a lie, if audacious enough and repeated enough times, will be believed by the masses. what a sad little life you lead. Herein lies the problem with the thread. Dune, irrespective of whether you like/dislike agree/disagree with him, answered a post in a perfectly acceptable manner, but your cheap, putrid little retort shows you to be both crass and pathetic. Grow up and behave like an adult or don't bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 (edited) I read somewhere that most EDL members were UKIP supporters. This clearly shows they are not like the BNP or the far right, but moderate right wingers (or traditional working class Conservatives). Judging from the video evidence from the marches and the Newsnight footage, i don't agree! However, just through anecdotal evidence of my own, i have found an appreciable number of people (work colleagues, friends, etc) with views that could be seen as extreme regarding race and integration, but they are generally hidden from general conversation! I do think that if the EDL were to clean their act up and were clever enough, they could gather a decent amount of support. As i said before, quite worrying IMHO. Edit - before anyone accuses me of fraternising solely with extremists, i count many a left wing leaning type amongst my friends. Edited 2 February, 2011 by Special K to stop the knee jerkers jerking one off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 (edited) Herein lies the problem with the thread. Dune, irrespective of whether you like/dislike agree/disagree with him, answered a post in a perfectly acceptable manner, but your cheap, putrid little retort shows you to be both crass and pathetic. Grow up and behave like an adult or don't bother. i,m expect i,m older than you and remember the lies the old national front (bnp)followers used the same language as dune and can see racists for what they are and not pretend its a nice little chat you have over dinner. look at all his threads hes a wind up merchant,do you ever see any threads supporting the real working people of this country. Edited 2 February, 2011 by solentstars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 What is a 'working class Conservative'? Is it someone who is using an economic excuse to justify their bigotry, or just a masochist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 From dune's favourite paper: (so it must be true) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1338080/Special-Investigation-English-Defence-League-hooligans-spreading-hate-High-Street.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 i,m expect i,m older than you and remember the lies the old national front (bnp)followers used the same language as dune and can see racists for what they are and not pretend its a nice little chat you have over dinner. look at all his threads hes a wind up merchant,do you ever see any threads supporting the real working people of this country. The point is not whether anyone agrees with him, but how any posts are phrased. And if the general consensus is that he is a wind up merchant, why does he get so many bites?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 What is a 'working class Conservative'? Is it someone who is using an economic excuse to justify their bigotry, or just a masochist? Probably someone like my old man, who is self employed and was able to buy his council house in the 80's. He's a tradesman, would view himself as working class and has always voted Conservative. Not saying he's got any sense mind, but neither is he a bigot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 2 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 2 February, 2011 What is a 'working class Conservative'? Is it someone who is using an economic excuse to justify their bigotry, or just a masochist? It's somebody who has the brains to realise that a right wing western christian democracy works, wheras a Socialist (Marxism without tanks) society drags everyone down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 From dune's favourite paper: (so it must be true) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1338080/Special-Investigation-English-Defence-League-hooligans-spreading-hate-High-Street.html To their credit, the Daily Mail has always had a pretty clear-headed attitude to the EDL. They are, as the article says, every bit the mindless racist imbeciles that dune would have the more gullible believe otherwise. Either dune is a fully-paid up racist or is naive in the foolish extreme to call this gang of vicious little creeps 'moderate'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 Herein lies the problem with the thread. Dune, irrespective of whether you like/dislike agree/disagree with him, answered a post in a perfectly acceptable manner, but your cheap, putrid little retort shows you to be both crass and pathetic. Grow up and behave like an adult or don't bother. But I know where solentstars is coming from. This stuff has a long, deeply sordid history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 2 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 2 February, 2011 i,m expect i,m older than you and remember the lies the old national front (bnp)followers used the same language as dune and can see racists for what they are and not pretend its a nice little chat you have over dinner. look at all his threads hes a wind up merchant,do you ever see any threads supporting the real working people of this country. The problem was that only the BNP and the NF were there for people with genuine concerns to turn to. With mainstream politcs being so confined to the centre ground gone is the old right wing Conservative party in the same way that the old left wing Labour is gone. In have come career politicians (with no convictions other than trying to be all things to all people to win votes). Just look at the Labour Party now - where are the MP's that have come from it's core base i.e the Unions? Prescott and Johnson were the last of this breed and now all you've got is the Nottinghill geeks - Milliband and co. That is why the real left wingers turn to the Marxist UAF/Socialist workers party, and that is why real right wingers were driven towards the wholely unsuitable NF in the past and the BNP recently. But with the rise of the UKIP and the EDL there is a non extreme alternative for people that are right wing and pro British, but who are not nazi's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 The point is not whether anyone agrees with him, but how any posts are phrased. And if the general consensus is that he is a wind up merchant, why does he get so many bites?? Probably because his ignorance, bigotry, huge generalisations and inability to put forward a logical argument are so ridiculous that it gives us a good laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 The problem was that only the BNP and the NF were there for people with genuine concerns to turn to. With mainstream politcs being so confined to the centre ground gone is the old right wing Conservative party in the same way that the old left wing Labour is gone. In have come career politicians (with no convictions other than trying to be all things to all people to win votes). Just look at the Labour Party now - where are the MP's that have come from it's core base i.e the Unions? Prescott and Johnson were the last of this breed and now all you've got is the Nottinghill geeks - Milliband and co. That is why the real left wingers turn to the Marxist UAF/Socialist workers party, and that is why real right wingers were driven towards the wholely unsuitable NF in the past and the BNP recently. But with the rise of the UKIP and the EDL there is a non extreme alternative for people that are right wing and pro British, but who are not nazi's. Just so you know, you piece of ****, the NF's calling card was to visit on Asian and black people a level of violence you'd only see in your worst nightmares. Don't you ****ing DARE tell me the NF was about 'genuine concerns'. Go **** yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 There is very little evidence left of what could be considered "British" or "English" culture anyway. Feral youths running the streets, the fact you can't leave a door open for five minutes without wondering whether you'd be burgled, gang crime, rape, robberies.. bloated money men hoovering up all the cash, irresponsible bankers, everyone living in an image driven, shallow, commodity based society where the X-factor and Jeremy Kyle are considered the staple diet of 'normal' people. Over-the-top red tape that hampers and restricts peoples innovation, a lack of support for those who genuinely need it and a generation upon generation of families making welfare a way of life, not a support system. Corporate monoliths turning your local pub/restaurant into a Toby Carvery or Hungry Horse, quick fix solutions from microwave meals to lose weight fast pills... Students leaving our universities without the ability to tell their ar5es from their elbows. Our police force bogged down with paperwork, our emergency services understaffed and undervalued and the complete adoption of reality tv as a means of genuine entertainment (as above - but add take me out, dancing/skating/farting on ice and all other sh1te that keeps you so pleasantly numb-minded whilst your car gets nicked, your gran gets assaulted and Ryan Giggs releases a fitness DVD). I'm not saying the Victorian times were a civil utopia, but what we have lost a considerable amount of what is regarded as "traditionally British" already; far more than the small crumbs we're trying to retain now. PS: I think I've made the decision; I'm outta here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 2 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 2 February, 2011 Just so you know, you piece of ****, the NF's calling card was to visit on Asian and black people a level of violence you'd only see in your worst nightmares. Don't you ****ing DARE tell me the NF was about 'genuine concerns'. Go **** yourself. I didn't say that gobby, what I said (or tried to say) was that in the past anyone with concerns was driven to the NF or the BNP because there was no moderate right wing party that was there for them. Now we have the UKIP at a party level and the EDL at a street level. So now you see there is the alternative that has for so long been absent. That is not to say that undesirables won't try to jump on the bandwagon, but so long as the UKIP and the EDL hierarchys do their upmost to stay sensible then there is no reason why these movements cannot fill the void. The EDL have a mission statment, make members sign a pledge of non violence/non racist behaviour etc, and get their own people to steward their demos - they are doing all they can to separate themselves from the the fascist rightwing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 I didn't say that gobby, what I said (or tried to say) was that in the past anyone with concerns was driven to the NF or the BNP because there was no moderate right wing party that was there for them. Now we have the UKIP at a party level and the EDL at a street level. So now you see there is the alternative that has for so long been absent. That is not to say that undesirables won't try to jump on the bandwagon, but so long as the UKIP and the EDL hierarchys do their upmost to stay sensible then there is no reason why these movements cannot fill the void. The EDL have a mission statment, make members sign a pledge of non violence/non racist behaviour etc, and get their own people to steward their demos - they are doing all they can to separate themselves from the the fascist rightwing. So your whole point in starting this thread is to say there are good neo-Nazis and bad ones, and we should recognise which is which. Utter crap. The minute the EDL sets foot in public it is looking for a fight. And the people they want to fight are invariably Asian shopkeepers and young Asian women. If someone decided to come down your street and terrorise you and everyone in it, just so that could express their 'frustrations' would you find that acceptable? As I say, you are a worthless piece of ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 2 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 2 February, 2011 So your whole point in starting this thread is to say there are good neo-Nazis and bad ones, and we should recognise which is which. Utter crap. The minute the EDL sets foot in public it is looking for a fight. And the people they want to fight are invariably Asian shopkeepers and young Asian women. If someone decided to come down your street and terrorise you and everyone in it, just so that could express their 'frustrations' would you find that acceptable? As I say, you are a worthless piece of ****. I've already given you an explanation. If you were really against fascism you'd be sympathetic the EDL's cause which is opposing the fascist behaviour of millitant islamists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 I've already given you an explanation. If you were really against fascism you'd be sympathetic the EDL's cause which is opposing the fascist behaviour of millitant islamists. Utter, utter crap - and either you know the reality and are being a manipulative little creep (or trying to be) or you're just another racist thug who isn't worth a damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 There is very little evidence left of what could be considered "British" or "English" culture anyway. Feral youths running the streets, the fact you can't leave a door open for five minutes without wondering whether you'd be burgled, gang crime, rape, robberies.. bloated money men hoovering up all the cash, irresponsible bankers, everyone living in an image driven, shallow, commodity based society where the X-factor and Jeremy Kyle are considered the staple diet of 'normal' people. Over-the-top red tape that hampers and restricts peoples innovation, a lack of support for those who genuinely need it and a generation upon generation of families making welfare a way of life, not a support system. Corporate monoliths turning your local pub/restaurant into a Toby Carvery or Hungry Horse, quick fix solutions from microwave meals to lose weight fast pills... Students leaving our universities without the ability to tell their ar5es from their elbows. Our police force bogged down with paperwork, our emergency services understaffed and undervalued and the complete adoption of reality tv as a means of genuine entertainment (as above - but add take me out, dancing/skating/farting on ice and all other sh1te that keeps you so pleasantly numb-minded whilst your car gets nicked, your gran gets assaulted and Ryan Giggs releases a fitness DVD). I'm not saying the Victorian times were a civil utopia, but what we have lost a considerable amount of what is regarded as "traditionally British" already; far more than the small crumbs we're trying to retain now. PS: I think I've made the decision; I'm outta here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/41040/jews-against-edl-launch-unity-voice The "Not in our name" group's founding pledge states: "The Jewish community has always been at the forefront of anti-fascism. From Cable Street to defeating the BNP at the ballot box, we have been unafraid to speak out against those who seek to spread fear and hatred in our communities. "Now our community faces a new threat. The EDL claims to be our allies in the fight against extremism. In reality, they are violent racists with BNP members and Nazi sympathisers among their ranks. "It is time for the Jewish community to come together as one to expose the EDL as the racist thugs they are." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/41040/jews-against-edl-launch-unity-voice The "Not in our name" group's founding pledge states: "The Jewish community has always been at the forefront of anti-fascism. From Cable Street to defeating the BNP at the ballot box, we have been unafraid to speak out against those who seek to spread fear and hatred in our communities. "Now our community faces a new threat. The EDL claims to be our allies in the fight against extremism. In reality, they are violent racists with BNP members and Nazi sympathisers among their ranks. "It is time for the Jewish community to come together as one to expose the EDL as the racist thugs they are." Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 2 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 2 February, 2011 Utter, utter crap - and either you know the reality and are being a manipulative little creep (or trying to be) or you're just another racist thug who isn't worth a damn. Answer me this then - why do UAF march alongside far right millitants who are Muslims? And in case you don't know who Anjem Choudary is here is an extract from the Telegraph: Anjem Choudary: profile Anjem Choudary’s latest insult to the families of British service personnel killed in Afghanistan is in keeping with a career of controversial attacks on military operations in the country. In March last year, the 42-year-old leader of the Islamic group, Islam4UK, branded British soldiers returning from Afghanistan as “cowards” and “brutal murderers”. Formerly a member of the now-illegal organisation al-Muhajiroun, he has also claimed it is an “obligation upon Muslims everywhere to support the Jihad against those who fight Muslims anywhere in the world or who occupy Muslim land". http://tinyurl.com/ya8qg2r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 It's somebody who has the brains to realise that a right wing western christian democracy works, wheras a Socialist (Marxism without tanks) society drags everyone down. Sorry, but what is a 'christian democracy'? Oh, and why is the only alternative to this 'Socialist'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 I'm not going to defend Choudhary - who the **** would. He's an even worse piece of **** than you. But unlike you I don't think it's worth beating Asian shopkeepers and women to pulp to make my point. (Of course that's what you'd LIKE to do by falling in with the EDL. But you're all talk. At least that's something) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 Lol, quite an appropriate emoticon as well; a top hat AND monacle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 2 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 2 February, 2011 And as you don't know what you're on about Verbal I suggest you read up about al-Muhajiroun. Wikipedia is probably best for you so here you go... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Muhajiroun Now you tell me how UAF (who are supposedly anti facsist) can march alongside people who morphed from an organisation which, and i quote from good old wiki, has been linked to international terrorism, homophobia and anti-semitism. Come on verbal - over to you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 2 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 2 February, 2011 I'm not going to defend Choudhary - who the **** would. He's an even worse piece of **** than you. So why do UAF not only march alongside him, but support him by putting his name on their leaflets? The EDL aren't the problem - UAF are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 Not sure who 'Malatesta32' is, but I found this to be a good read : https://malatesta32.wordpress.com/2010/11/15/edl-mac-same-thing/ There are few other interesting snippets on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 2 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 2 February, 2011 Not sure who 'Malatesta32' is, but I found this to be a good read : https://malatesta32.wordpress.com/2010/11/15/edl-mac-same-thing/ There are few other interesting snippets on there. I'm glad you highlighted MAC - the people who burnt the poppy wreaths on remembrance Sunday. UAF have included them in their rallying leaflet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 2 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 2 February, 2011 On the UAF leaflet it states they will be supported by Anjem Choudary (former member of al-muhajiroun). Here is a video on al-maajiroun and their links to 7/7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 Utter, utter crap - and either you know the reality and are being a manipulative little creep (or trying to be) or you're just another racist thug who isn't worth a damn. manipulative little creep sums him up,a very little man wait for his next racist thread saying the kkk and bnp are not racists . a typical far right propagandist. and trying to link our brave soldiers to his extreme politics is a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 And as you don't know what you're on about Verbal I suggest you read up about al-Muhajiroun. Wikipedia is probably best for you so here you go... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Muhajiroun Now you tell me how UAF (who are supposedly anti facsist) can march alongside people who morphed from an organisation which, and i quote from good old wiki, has been linked to international terrorism, homophobia and anti-semitism. Come on verbal - over to you.... Over to me for what, you racist creep? I loathe the Islamic fundamentalist grouping in the UK and have had rather more contact with them than you. I've been threatened by them, my wife has been attacked by them, my son is pestered by them constantly at his university. You'd better ask the UAF about why they'd tolerate a cretin like Choudary - I don't feel the need to justify something I abhor. You, on the other hand, the pretend 'moderate', are perfectly happy to see Asian shopkeepers and women abused, beaten, and their property damaged, so that you can show your 'frustration'. Happy with that, are you? Over to you, racist piece of ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 2 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 2 February, 2011 Over to me for what, you racist creep? I loathe the Islamic fundamentalist grouping in the UK and have had rather more contact with them than you. I've been threatened by them, my wife has been attacked by them, my son is pestered by them constantly at his university. You'd better ask the UAF about why they'd tolerate a cretin like Choudary - I don't feel the need to justify something I abhor. I assume from these comments that you are a member of the ethnic community and you have my sympathy for the effects Millitant Islam have had on you and those close to you. Therefore i'm bewildered why you'd be against the EDL who are standing up against these people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 I assume from these comments that you are a member of the ethnic community and you have my sympathy for the effects Millitant Islam have had on you and those close to you. Therefore i'm bewildered why you'd be against the EDL who are standing up against these people. I haven't followed the whole argument here, but how anyone can write such contrary tripe is beyond me; this is a perfect example of Dune at this inaccurate and illogical best. It's like having a conversation with a bolshie teenager who wants to 'win' so much that they argue black is white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 2 February, 2011 Share Posted 2 February, 2011 I assume from these comments that you are a member of the ethnic community and you have my sympathy for the effects Millitant Islam have had on you and those close to you. Therefore i'm bewildered why you'd be against the EDL who are standing up against these people. stirring your race hate again i see stanley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 2 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 2 February, 2011 stirring your race hate again i see stanley Not at all. The EDL welcomes people from all comunities and faiths. The BNP or the NF wouldn't have done this because they are racist, but the EDL are welcoming to everyone who is against millitant Islam including moderate Muslims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts