dune Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 [video=youtube;seYqxNS-FlI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seYqxNS-FlI The non racist stance of the EDL is evidently not to the liking of far right extremists. No doubt tonights feature on Newsnight will attempt to portray the EDL in a negative light such is the BBC's left wing bias. http://s1.zetaboards.com/EDL_The_Forum/topic/4098632/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 Please stop recruiting for your racist friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 February, 2011 Please stop recruiting for your racist friends. I thought seeing as there is going to be a feature on the Newsnight tonight i'd highlight it. Also the EDL are not racist - they welcome coloured people and regularly fly the flag of Israel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 I thought seeing as there is going to be a feature on the Newsnight tonight i'd highlight it. Also the EDL are not racist - they welcome coloured people and regularly fly the flag of Israel. They just hate muslims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 god these threads are repetitive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 I thought seeing as there is going to be a feature on the Newsnight tonight i'd highlight it. Also the EDL are not racist - they welcome coloured people and regularly fly the flag of Israel. Of all the bigoted, moronic drivel you have posted on this site over the years dune, you really have stooped to a new low with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swannymere Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 Hmm, Dune's BBQ's look like a right good laugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 February, 2011 Of all the bigoted, moronic drivel you have posted on this site over the years dune, you really have stooped to a new low with this one. I have merely pointed out the facts. The EDL are inclusve, moderate, and non racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 I have merely pointed out the facts. The EDL are inclusve, moderate, and non racist. So would you say then that flying the flag of Israel is not intended purely to incite anger from muslims? And why don't we ever see these 'coloured people' (as you so crudely and ignorantly put it) joining in their demonstrations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 February, 2011 So would you say then that flying the flag of Israel is not intended purely to incite anger from muslims? And why don't we ever see these 'coloured people' (as you so crudely and ignorantly put it) joining in their demonstrations? The Israeli flag is imo there because the EDL want to show that they do not hold anti semetic views, and you do see lots of blacks and Asians on EDL marches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 February, 2011 EDL MISSION STATEMENT “The world is a dangerous place to live in; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don’t do anything about it.” - Albert Einstein, refugee from Nazi Germany People have been asking what the EDL is all about, what does it want to achieve, how will it achieve those things? Well now the English Defence League has a Mission Statement...... (1) HUMAN RIGHTS: Protecting And Promoting Human Rights The English Defence League (EDL) is a human rights organisation that was founded in the wake of the shocking actions of a small group of Muslim extremists who, at a homecoming parade in Luton, openly mocked the sacrifices of our service personnel without any fear of censure. Although these actions were certainly those of a minority, we believe that they reflect other forms of religiously-inspired intolerance and barbarity that are thriving amongst certain sections of the Muslim population in Britain: including, but not limited to, the denigration and oppression of women, the molestation of young children, the committing of so-called honour killings, homophobia, anti-Semitism, and continued support for those responsible for terrorist atrocities. Whilst we must always protect against the unjust assumption that all Muslims are complicit in or somehow responsible for these crimes, we must not be afraid to speak freely about these issues. This is why the EDL will continue to work to protect the inalienable rights of all people to protest against radical Islam’s encroachment into the lives of non-Muslims. We also recognise that Muslims themselves are frequently the main victims of some Islamic traditions and practices. The Government should protect the individual human rights of members of British Muslims. It should ensure that they can openly criticise Islamic orthodoxy, challenge Islamic leaders without fear of retribution, receive full equality before the law (including equal rights for Muslim women), and leave Islam if they see fit, without fear of censure. British Muslims should be able to safely demand reform of their religion, in order to make it more relevant to the needs of the modern world and more respectful of other groups in society. It is important that they completely reject the views of those who believe that Islam should be taken in its ‘original’, 7th century form, because these interpretations are the antithesis of Western democracy. The onus should be on British Muslims to overcome the problems that blight their religion and achieve nothing short of an Islamic reformation. In line with this, we should do all that we can to empower those who are willing to take this path. We must also ensure that they do not fear reprisals from those who, in line with these 7th century interpretations, would force sharia law upon them. The EDL calls upon the Government to repeal legislation that prevents effective freedom of speech, for freedom of speech is essential if the human rights abuses that sometimes manifest themselves around Islam are to be stopped. We believe that the proponents of radical Islam have a stranglehold on British Muslims. These radicals dominate Muslim organisations, remain key figures in British mosques, and are steadily increasing their influence. Radical Islam keeps British Muslims fearful and isolated, especially the women that it encases in the Burqa. It misrepresents their views, stifles freedom of expression, and indoctrinates their children, whilst continually doing a discredit to those who do wish to peacefully co-exist with their fellow Britons. (2) DEMOCRACY AND THE RULE OF LAW: Promoting Democracy And The Rule Of Law By Opposing Sharia The European Court of Human Rights has declared that “sharia is incompatible with the fundamental principles of democracy”. Despite this, there are still those who are more than willing to accommodate sharia norms, and who believe that sharia can operate in partnership with our existing traditions and customs. In reality, sharia cannot operate fully as anything other than a complete alternative to our existing legal, political, and social systems. It is a revolution that this country does not want, and one that it must resist. Sharia is most definitely a threat to our democracy. The operation of Islamic courts, the often unreasonable demand that Islam is given more respect than it is due, and the stealthy incursion of halal meat into the food industry, all demonstrate that sharia is already creeping into our lives. Resentment is already beginning to grow, and could create dangerous divisions if nothing is done. The primacy of British courts must be maintained and defended, fair criticism of religious and political ideologies must be permitted, and consumers must be provided with the information necessary to avoid halal produce should they wish. Restaurants and fast food chains that do offer halal options should offer non-halal alternatives as well, in order to show respect for other people’s religions, customs, and possible concerns about animal welfare issues (surrounding ritual slaughter). No one should be made to consume halal produce unwittingly, so it must always be labeled - in supermarkets, in restaurants, in schools, and in hospitals - wherever it is available. Free choice in these matters is, after all, a fundamental human right for everybody, not just the Muslim community. Sharia law makes a fundamental distinction between Muslims and non-Muslims, and the EDL will never allow this sort of iniquitous apartheid to take root in our country. The EDL will therefore oppose sharia appeasement in all its forms, and will actively work to eradicate the sharia-compliant behaviours that are already being adopted, and enforced, in our society. (3) PUBLIC EDUCATION: Ensuring That The Public Get A Balanced Picture Of Islam A central part of the EDL’s mission is public education. The British political and media establishment have, for a long time, been presenting a very sanitised and therefore inaccurate view of Islam, shaped by the needs of policy-makers rather than the needs of the public. This has acted as a barrier to informed policy-making and made finding the solution to real problems impossible. In pursuing this self-defeating and destructive policy, the Government has effectively been acting as the propaganda arm of the Muslim Brotherhood. Whether or not is aware of the predicament that it has put itself in, it has so far failed to honestly admit its failures. We are committed to a campaign of public education to ensure that all aspects of Islam that impact on our society can debated in an open and honest way. Demonisation of Muslims, or of Islam’s critics, adds nothing to the debate. We believe that only by looking at all the facts can society be most effectively and humanly governed. If there are aspects of Muslim tradition that encourage the activities of Islamic radicals and criminals then these need to be properly addressed without fear of accusations of racism, xenophobia, or the even the disingenuous term ‘Islamophobia’. The public must be provided with a more realistic and less sanitised view of Islam that allows it to ensure that decision-makers are held to account for their policy-making choices, choices that affect the harmony and security of the nation. The EDL promotes the understanding of Islam and the implications for non-Muslims forced to live alongside it. Islam is not just a religious system, but a political and social ideology that seeks to dominate all non-believers and impose a harsh legal system that rejects democratic accountability and human rights. It runs counter to all that we hold dear within our British liberal democracy, and it must be prepared to change, to conform to secular, liberal ideals and laws, and to contribute to social harmony, rather than causing divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 February, 2011 (4) RESPECTING TRADITION: Promoting The Traditions And Culture Of England While At The Same Time Being Open To Embrace The Best That Other Cultures Can Offer The EDL believes that English Culture has the right to exist and prosper in England. We recognise that culture is not static, that over time changes take place naturally, and that other cultures make contributions that make our shared culture stronger and more vibrant. However, this does not give license to policy-makers to deliberately undermine our culture and impose non-English cultures on the English people in their own land. If people migrate to this country then they should be expected to respect our culture, its laws, and its traditions, and not expect their own cultures to be promoted by agencies of the state. The best of their cultures will be absorbed naturally and we will all be united by the enhanced culture that results. The onus should always be on foreign cultures to adapt and integrate. If said cultures promote anti-democratic ideas and refuse to accept the authority of our nation’s laws, then the host nation should not be bowing to these ideas in the name of ‘cultural sensitivity’. Law enforcement personnel must be able to enforce the rule of law thoroughly without prejudice or fear. Everyone, after all, is supposed to be equal in the eyes of the law. The EDL is therefore keen to draw its support from people of all races, all faiths, all political persuasions, and all lifestyle choices. Under its umbrella, all people in England, whatever their background, or origin, can stand united in a desire to stop the imposition of the rules of Islam on non-believers. In order to ensure the continuity of our culture and its institutions, the EDL stands opposed to the creeping Islamisation of our country, because intimately related to the spread of Islamic religion is the political desire to implement an undemocratic alternative to our cherished way of life: the sharia. Our armed forces stand up and risk their lives every day in order to protect our culture and democratic way of life. They are also reflective of England’s diversity, and are a shining example of what a people can achieve when united together. The EDL is therefore committed to opposing any and all abuse that our men and women in uniform are subjected to, and will campaign for legal remedies to ensure that those working within these important institutions are not exposed to abuse or aggression from within our country. (5) INTERNATIONAL OUTLOOK: Working In Solidarity With Others Around The World The EDL is keen to join with others who share our values, wherever they are in the world, and from whatever cultural background they derive. We believe that the demand for sharia is global and therefore needs to be tackled at a global as well as national level, so that this demand will never be succumbed to. The EDL will therefore have an international outlook to enhance and strengthen our domestic efforts, whilst at the same time contributing to the global struggle against Islamic intolerance of Western cultures, customs, religions, politics, and laws. The time for tolerating intolerance has come to an end: it is time for the whole world to unite against a truly Global Jihad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 [video=youtube;seYqxNS-FlI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seYqxNS-FlI One of the great orators of our time speaks out. Lovely people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 You know, I've had a few reports on this thread already, but I think it's far better to let people dig their own hole in public than to censor this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 February, 2011 You know, I've had a few reports on this thread already, but I think it's far better to let people dig their own hole in public than to censor this... There is nothing to report. I am highlighting how the EDL is not a racist organisation and the fact that racist organisations are against them because they are inclusive and not anti semetic. I think such a moderate organisation should be welcomed because it's about time that patriotism was wrestled away from the far right and this is exactly what the EDL is achieving. Tonights feature on Newsnight will probaby focus on minority elements, but that shouldn't detract from the good work being done by the vast majority who are peacefully exorcisng their democratic rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 You know, I've had a few reports on this thread already, but I think it's far better to let people dig their own hole in public than to censor this... Free speech is one thing. Being allowed to post on here the constitution of a racist and violent organisation, some of whose leading members have been jailed for said offences, is entirely another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 who are peacefully exorcising their democratic rights. Devil is in the detail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 February, 2011 Free speech is one thing. Being allowed to post on here the constitution of a racist and violent organisation, some of whose leading members have been jailed for said offences, is entirely another. Stop making things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 Lol @ the EDL's mission statement's #1 point being the protection of human rights...since when does smashing some ethnic bloke's face in with your fist mean protecting his human rights? Glad Dune's back though, lightens the place up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickn Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 There is nothing to report. I am highlighting how the EDL is not a racist organisation and the fact that racist organisations are against them because they are inclusive and not anti semetic. I think such a moderate organisation should be welcomed because it's about time that patriotism was wrestled away from the far right and this is exactly what the EDL is achieving. Tonights feature on Newsnight will probaby focus on minority elements, but that shouldn't detract from the good work being done by the vast majority who are peacefully exorcisng their democratic rights. The root cause of a lot of racism imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 February, 2011 Lol @ the EDL's mission statement's #1 point being the protection of human rights...since when does smashing some ethnic bloke's face in with your fist mean protecting his human rights? Glad Dune's back though, lightens the place up a bit. You're focusing on a miniscule minority. The vast majority of those that partake in demos stay within the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 You know, I've had a few reports on this thread already, but I think it's far better to let people dig their own hole in public than to censor this... Agreed - The biggest anti-EDL statement possible to make on here is made by the fact that it is endorsed by Dune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 Stop making things up. Baj, posting the 'constitution' of a violent racist organisation is tantamount to false advertising. Opinion is one thing; this kind of gross and deliberate distortion is not. I would ask that you remove it - especially since the EDL is a known recruiter among Saints fans, and since one of its organisers was unmasked on here for doing a similar thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 The root cause of a lot of racism imo Only in England is patriotism confused with racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 This topic was covered ages ago. Even if I was sure the thread was still here ( it probably isn't TBH) I can't be bothered to go looking for it. However, conclusion reached ( based on actual FACTS) was the EDL is inherently racist. I'm sure things have not changed, at least not for the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 Right, lets, see how quickly I can turn up evidence of EDL being racist... its 13:23. and... go... (off to google).. 13:24... http://www.thesamosa.co.uk/index.php/news-and-features/society/210-exclusive-f-the-pakis-meet-the-edls-anti-racist-poster-boy.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 Baj, posting the 'constitution' of a violent racist organisation is tantamount to false advertising. Opinion is one thing; this kind of gross and deliberate distortion is not. I would ask that you remove it - especially since the EDL is a known recruiter among Saints fans, and since one of its organisers was unmasked on here for doing a similar thing. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 You're focusing on a miniscule minority. The vast majority of those that partake in demos stay within the law. And i'm sure that the vast majority of Nazi soldiers didn't believe in killing Jews, but it doesn't change the fact that millions of innocents died. I'm not likening the two situations (and i've crossed internet argument regulations - as soon as somebody mentions the Nazis the argument is invalid) but you can't say that there isn't a large contingent of members in the EDL who are racially motivated to protest against the construction of mosques etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 This topic was covered ages ago. Even if I was sure the thread was still here ( it probably isn't TBH) I can't be bothered to go looking for it. However, conclusion reached ( based on actual FACTS) was the EDL is inherently racist. I'm sure things have not changed, at least not for the better. Like with anything, if you want to reach a conclusion and want to believe something then you will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 Oh well, I did have a quick look and found this instead. Seems apt somehow : http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?23539-I-ve-Just-Seen-Some-UFO-s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 I would hate this forum to be used for recruitment purposes but, nonetheless, believing, as I do, in the right of the individual to express an opinion, I think the thread should stay. If it should degenerate into outright racism, sexism, homophobia etc. etc. then, by all means, close it. But in the meantime let the man have his say - he'll be the architect of his own downfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 (edited) Its easier to win if you pick off one group before moving on to the others. Radical Moslems are a great first target - you dont alienate Hindus, Sikhs, Jews or Christians that way- thereby weakening initial opposition. Also start off with modest demands, only cranking up the severity of the 'measures needed' over time as your target is progressively demonised. Later when you've 'dealt' with that little problem you can come back and pick off the other less than pure minoriites in England. Over 15-20 years or so you can develop a final solution. Edited 1 February, 2011 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 EDL led by a paedophile sponsored by the Israelis. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 February, 2011 All the left wing anti EDL rhetoric is about supressing people rights to opose Muslim extremism. I think most British people would agree with the EDL and imo they should be respected for getting off their arses and speaking out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 February, 2011 EDL led by a paedophile sponsored by the Israelis. Nice. Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mao Cap Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 Are these RVF guys anything to do with the People's Front of Judea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 Are these RVF guys anything to do with the People's Front of Judea? No, they spit on them. They are aligned to the Judean People's Front though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 So tell me dune... Other than organising marches which invariably result in violence, what measures are the EDL taking to educate the public about the dangers of radical Islam? Are they working with local communities to engage with young muslims about it? Are there any publications or courses available to get this education across? Perhaps they organise workshops or outreach programmes etc... I read through section 3 above and, despite being four paragraphs long, it doesn't outline in any detail what initiatives are being taken to promote this education. It seems to me that the only thing they are interested in is organising these public demonstrations that don't appear to have any purpose other than provocation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 All the left wing anti EDL rhetoric is about supressing people rights to opose Muslim extremism. I think most British people would agree with the EDL and imo they should be respected for getting off their arses and speaking out. Are you for real dune? Seriously? You post a video of a man in white hood, who clearly does not want to be identified, claiming that his organisation is non-racist, and you expect people to agree with you? Sheesh! Edit: I notice he uses the word 'hate' a few times during that interview. Doesn't that give you a good idea why people aren't falling over themselves to support these people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 February, 2011 Bexy the simple fact is that the far right are against the edl because they are not racist or fascist. The whole point of the edl is to stand up against extremism and i'd have thought groups like UAF should be supporting this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 Baj, posting the 'constitution' of a violent racist organisation is tantamount to false advertising. Opinion is one thing; this kind of gross and deliberate distortion is not. I would ask that you remove it - especially since the EDL is a known recruiter among Saints fans, and since one of its organisers was unmasked on here for doing a similar thing. Do you not think that Saints Fans can make up their own minds on these dickheads. Censorship is for fascists. Your attitude is far more dangerous; why do you not debate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 Bexy the simple fact is that the far right are against the edl because they are not racist or fascist. The whole point of the edl is to stand up against extremism and i'd have thought groups like UAF should be supporting this. So I'll ask you once again, although you appear to show a politician-like skill for ducking difficult questions that you can't answer... What initiatives, other than pointless marches for the sake of provocation, are the EDL taking to 'stand up against extremism' and educate the public about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mao Cap Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 No, they spit on them. They are aligned to the Judean People's Front though. Ah, well then they're fine by me. Go RVF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jones91 Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 Muslim extremists love all this attention, if the media did no coverage on their terror attacks they would of probably given up by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 (edited) No worries then. The Nazis were multi cultural too. http://ironlight.wordpress.com/2010/02/13/national-socialism-not-racism/ "In National Socialist Germany, groups such as Muslims and Buddhists were accorded full respect, and allowed to practise their religion freely. In the pre-war years, National Socialist Germany helped organize a pan-Islamic world congress in Berlin. Berlin itself was home to thriving Muslim and Buddhist communities, of many races, and the Ahmadiyya Mosque in Berlin held regular prayers even during the war years, attended by Arabs, Indians, Turks, Afghans and people of many other races. Indeed, the Berlin Mosque was one of the few buildings to survive the lethal, indiscriminate, Allied bombing and bombardment, and although damaged, it was clearly recognizable as a Mosque amid the surrounding rubble. National Socialist Germany was home to exiles from many races, including respected individuals such as Subhas Chandra Bose, leader of the Indian National Army, and Mohammed Amin al-Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. Both received significant financial support from the German government and both enthusiastically collaborated with Hitler. There was also, of course, the alliance with Japan, and while the Allies – and particularly the Americans – were revelling in, and spreading, derogatory anti-Japanese propaganda (many American GI’s thought “the Japs” were not human) the Germans were extolling their virtues and regarded them as “comrades-in-arms”. While the Germans honoured Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto with one of their highest decorations for gallantry, a Knights Cross with Oak Leaves and Swords, American GI’s ruthlessly exterminated Japanese soldiers, it being common practice for them to “take no prisoners” and execute any Japanese soldier who surrendered. Incidentally, two Japanese warriors were honored by Germany by being awarded the Knights Cross with Oak Leaves". Edited 1 February, 2011 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 Please stop recruiting for your racist friends. i agree hes the sort of guy who thinks hitler was hard done by but you always get some unhinged racist lunatics who pretend otherwise and he should go back to useing his stanley name . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 Only in England is patriotism confused with racism. what utter crap they are racists useing patriotism for the thick ****s which join them to further their own causes---like the bnp . the traitors within i like to call them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 I would hate this forum to be used for recruitment purposes but, nonetheless, believing, as I do, in the right of the individual to express an opinion, I think the thread should stay. If it should degenerate into outright racism, sexism, homophobia etc. etc. then, by all means, close it. But in the meantime let the man have his say - he'll be the architect of his own downfall. i agree it exposes the lovers of the far extreme racist right on here and i think we all know who they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 February, 2011 Will you be watching Newsnight tonight SS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 1 February, 2011 Share Posted 1 February, 2011 LOL - who are these morons in the RVF? They seem even moronic than the EDL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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