dubai_phil Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 The Puncheon situation could be interesting. Will we accept a cut-price offer to get him out of the club, or let him rot in the reserves (sorry, development squad)? I say let him rot!!!! No panic, we could always (for example) loan him out after the window closes with an option to buy for 50 quid and charge a 250k loan fee Sort of thing Beattie on loan from Rangers, that would work if he could be kept out the nightclubs
S-Clarke Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 What is swanie`s ITK-ness record?? 0% right, since ever.
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 31 January, 2011 Author Posted 31 January, 2011 What is swanie`s ITK-ness record?? Somewhere between nought and zero.
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 31 January, 2011 Author Posted 31 January, 2011 No panic, we could always (for example) loan him out after the window closes with an option to buy for 50 quid and charge a 250k loan fee Sort of thing Beattie on loan from Rangers, that would work if he could be kept out the nightclubs Best not let him become pally with Barney then...
saint_stevo Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 The Puncheon situation could be interesting. Will we accept a cut-price offer to get him out of the club, or let him rot in the reserves (sorry, development squad)? I say let him rot!!!! He can only sign for Millwall. Emergency loan is the only other option
miserableoldgit Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 0% right, since ever. At least he is consistant.
saintscottofthenortham Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 0% right, since ever. Not true. He got Connelly right, knew about 6 weeks prior to him signing that he was coming. Jaidi too. He has come out with some carp but he works in that field and only passes on what gets passed to him. He always says not to read too much into it, just wants to pass on what he has.
madruss Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 He can only sign for Millwall. Emergency loan is the only other option Is that 'cos of the 'no more than 2 clubs in one season rule?' I thought that only applied to permanent signings? Otherwise we wouldn't have been able to sign N'Guessan as he's already been on loan at S****horpe this season
beatlesaint Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 Is that 'cos of the 'no more than 2 clubs in one season rule?' I thought that only applied to permanent signings? Otherwise we wouldn't have been able to sign N'Guessan as he's already been on loan at S****horpe this season It does only apply to permanent signings.
Gorgiesaint Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 You realise the beattie on loan rumour is probably on there because it's on here, but now it's confirmation that we were right? anyway, yeah, he'd be a great signing. he'd have more chance of doing well here than most places. he'd be well up for it, still liked, settle easily and still more than good enough. hasn't had many chances at rangers, before that he was doing well in the premier league before falling out with pulis. bring him back. perfect alternative to lambert if he isn't doing it. Couldn't agree less. As someone who watched Beattie play for 60 or so mins in the old firm game at New Year, I think he would be a terrible signing. Doesn't look fit, didn't look interested and the fact that he didn't even make the bench for the CIS cup semi final yesterday even though Rangers have lost Kenny Miller to Bursaspor speaks volumes. He really is a player who has lost his way, and it's too big a gamble to try and get him back to show him the right road.
S-Clarke Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 and on another note, WTF has Andy Carroll ever done to be worth upwards of £30m? Seriously...? mentalists.
S-Clarke Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 ''Newcastle have received a £30million bid for Andy Carroll believed to be from Liverpool. The Magpies have rejected the bid.''
Window Cleaner Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 and on another note, WTF has Andy Carroll ever done to be worth upwards of £30m? Seriously...? mentalists. Worn an England shirt, that's all it takes these days.
sammysaint Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 Beattie would play for saints again but doesn't want to drop to league one hes hoping to join a poor championship team but if the wages are high and no one comes in for him then he will but saints have not made a offer as of friday. To be honest i would prefer a quicker striker anyways beattie is a quality finisher and if we sign him i would also hope we sign a quick young striker as well to cover.
saint_stevo Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 It does only apply to permanent signings. no its loans as well. Emergency loans don't count though
verlaine1979 Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 and on another note, WTF has Andy Carroll ever done to be worth upwards of £30m? Seriously...? mentalists. Completely agree, has always looked a deeply limited player to me. He was embarrassingly poor on his England debut against France. Typical English lump of a striker, no touch, no skill.
St. Neil Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 @SkysportsPeteO: Skysports.com understands Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain will not be leaving Southampton this month. Follow me on Twitter @skysportspeteo
buctootim Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 Completely agree, has always looked a deeply limited player to me. He was embarrassingly poor on his England debut against France. Typical English lump of a striker, no touch, no skill. More to the point wtf would anyone reject a bid of £30m for Carroll?
Professor Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 N'Gussen looked to me like cover for Puncheon and/or Chamberlain to leave. On Chamberlain, considering the 'we will not sell' statements from some clubs about their targeted players, a stronger statement from Saints would have been nice instead of 'we aren't looking to sell' which sounds more like a bargaining position and could be seen by ArseNil and ManUre as an invitation. AOC hasn't put in a transfer request as far as we know, and since money is meaningless to the Leibherrs, why even consider selling unless the player formally asks to go, and even then he has a long-tern contract he can be held to. As for the idea that you can't hold on to a player who wants to leave - Oh Yes you can - for the length of his contract. And if he stopped performing, his chances of a move to a top club in 2 or 3 years time would be damaged anyway. I feel Chamberlain will still be here in the morning but if not, it would be because the club had put money first, which I don't think they should, or will.
PaulSaint Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 Isn't Beattie's play a bit too similar to Lambert's. We need someone quick who gives us a different option?
trousers Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 @SkysportsPeteO: Skysports.com understands Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain will not be leaving Southampton this month. Follow me on Twitter @skysportspeteo Confirms what Cortese announced in December.....
Professor Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 Sky Sport now saying AOC not leaving but that there will be bids in the summer. If by then Saints are in the Championship, holding on to him might be easier.
grammy Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 Isn't Beattie's play a bit too similar to Lambert's. We need someone quick who gives us a different option? Agree with this. Definately lacked pace up front against ManUre. Can't see this happening, doesn't fit the Adkins/Cortese plan of players to take us up the next couple of levels. High risk imo in terms of fitness/hunger/team spirit.
madruss Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 Sky Sport now saying AOC not leaving but that there will be bids in the summer. If by then Saints are in the Championship, holding on to him might be easier. And if we can't hold onto him, we'll certainly be able to get more money for him and have time over the summer to reinvest the proceeds wisely. Win-win if you ask me!
Glasgow_Saint Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 Beattie has been absolutely shocking for Rangers - really really poor
S-Clarke Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 Sky Sport now saying AOC not leaving but that there will be bids in the summer. If by then Saints are in the Championship, holding on to him might be easier. Or we can get really silly money for him. Upwards of 15m please. (if Andy Carroll can receive bids of 30m then anything is possible)
Glasgow_Saint Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 why are we now obsessed with signing players that "were good once"? Surely its better to sign someone in form now rather than someone who potentially could get better?
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 why are we now obsessed with signing players that "were good once"? Surely its better to sign someone in form now rather than someone who potentially could get better? Like Lambert ? Only joking
Glasgow_Saint Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 Nothing at Blackburn, poor at Everton, poor at Rangers. Great for us, Sheff Utd, Stoke. Hated Pompey. Clearly he needs red and white and hates blue. The red and white effect might now be dead?
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 The red and white effect might now be dead? On a side note That`ll do for next season shirt, with a Merc badge.
Window Cleaner Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 The red and white effect might now be dead? Tennents might have an effect though.
SFC Forever Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 Davis hasn't scored any goals for Saints yet and he's played loads of games. Maybe not but he has helped make some. For the opposition.
Whitey Grandad Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 why are we now obsessed with signing players that "were good once"? Surely its better to sign someone in form now rather than someone who potentially could get better? We need someone who can do the business between now and the end of the season.
Pancake Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 Is that 'cos of the 'no more than 2 clubs in one season rule?' I thought that only applied to permanent signings? Otherwise we wouldn't have been able to sign N'Guessan as he's already been on loan at S****horpe this season The FA Handbook 2010-2011 http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/~/media/Files/PDF/TheFA/Rules_Regs/FA_Handbook_2010-11-v1.ashx/FA_Handbook_2010-11-v1.pdf Section C - Rules Relating To Players. There is no mention of limit on (a) clubs a player can play for; or (b) clubs that can hold the registration of a player. There used to be, but I cant find it for the life of me in this new version.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 anyone got a good SSN stream? I would like to watch the DD carnage.....
Window Cleaner Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 We need someone who can do the business between now and the end of the season. So we need someone on form now right??
Pancake Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 The FA Handbook 2010-2011 http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/~/media/Files/PDF/TheFA/Rules_Regs/FA_Handbook_2010-11-v1.ashx/FA_Handbook_2010-11-v1.pdf Section C - Rules Relating To Players. There is no mention of limit on (a) clubs a player can play for; or (b) clubs that can hold the registration of a player. There used to be, but I cant find it for the life of me in this new version. Right, got it. FIFA from 2007: http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/administration/01/06/30/78/statusinhalt_en_122007.pdf Players may be registered with a maximum of three clubs during one season. During this period, the player is only eligible to play official matches for two clubs. Not sure if this has been changed since 2007 mind.
madruss Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 Joe Garner just went on loan to Scunny after being on loan at Huddersfield, so Puncheon can definitely be loaned to any club that wants him. I imagine it'll be loan with a view to permanent move and my money is still on Newcastle. Well if Newcastle value Carroll at £30m, we should ask minimum £2m for Puncheon!!
Lighthouse Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 I'd bet a million pounds and a testicle we don't sign Beattie. Infact if I had to bet my wedding veg on something I'd bet we don't sign anyone at all today.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 (edited) West Ham interested in Aaron Martin! Edited 31 January, 2011 by Glasgow_Saint
Window Cleaner Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 I see Le Fondre has said he won't renew his contract with Rotherham then,might be worth a few quid to get him now because I doubt if they'll want to loan him out for his last 6 months.
Pancake Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 FIFA 2010 rules http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/administration/01/27/64/30/regulationsstatusandtransfer2010_e.pdf State the same thing.
trousers Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 anyone got a good SSN stream? I would like to watch the DD carnage..... Me too please
Liquidshokk Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 If we do keep hold of AOC you just know these rumours of him going to Man U, Arsenal, Liverpool etc etc etc are going to go on for rest of season and then gotta go through it all again in the summer.... I wish Alex would just confirm his commitment to Saints and that we wouldnt have to keep worrying about losing our best players.. Guess thats football for you. Even with all the money our owners have you can never be sure of keeping hold of them
Lighthouse Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 I see Le Fondre has said he won't renew his contract with Rotherham then,might be worth a few quid to get him now because I doubt if they'll want to loan him out for his last 6 months. Contract expires in 2012. http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11747_6712740,00.html
Leicestersaint Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 I'd bet a million pounds and a testicle we don't sign Beattie. Infact if I had to bet my wedding veg on something I'd bet we don't sign anyone at all today. Risky.
Window Cleaner Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 Contract expires in 2012. http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11747_6712740,00.html Right, thought it must have been this summer, that's a come and get me call then.
warsash saint Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 I wish Alex would just confirm his commitment to Saints and that we wouldnt have to keep worrying about losing our best players.. Surely we did that by signing a 3 1/2 contract last year ?
buctootim Posted 31 January, 2011 Posted 31 January, 2011 Right, thought it must have been this summer, that's a come and get me call then. Mackail Smith is in a similar position I think.
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