NickG Posted 26 January, 2011 Share Posted 26 January, 2011 Point is its enough - add more great, but more than any other team in this league by far and plenty. Your point about Connolly backs me up - when was last time he was needed to start! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 26 January, 2011 Share Posted 26 January, 2011 Post from November comparing our "weak" cover upfront. I appreciate since then Guly has started scoring for fun and Puncheon has been knocking them in at a higher level so stat a bit out of date Originally Posted by NickG Our forwards this season Lambert 6 Lallana 6 Barnard 5 Alex Ox-C 4 De Prado 3 Connolly 1 Last year, at this level Lambert 35 Lallana 20 Barnard 26 Connolly 7 Don't know how good Ryan Doble is. Brighton -forwards in their squad and goals scored this season Barnes 7 (lower league player before this season) Murray 5 (14 last year) Sandaza 1 (relased from Dundee last season) then couple of 18 year olds who haven't scored. We are not weak for this league!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 26 January, 2011 Share Posted 26 January, 2011 They are only allowed to talk when their contract has ended in England i believe I may be wrong, i am sure MLG will be around to put us right soon though. Still, did you read my post about players availability and the problems with getting them here etc ?? Don't get me wrong i am as dissapointed and bored as the next fan but always knew it would be difficult to get players in during the Jan window, especially at the calibre we would be looking. Still time left yet mind. Sorry Smirking wasn't ignoring you and you make a valid point....yes it could just be that the players are not available and no-one wants to release their best but then again agents want their cut and do their best to get moves for their players no matter how long the contract is. I am sure Cortese wont pay over the odds and that is why perhaps the player I was hoping for hasn't arrived ....yet ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 26 January, 2011 Share Posted 26 January, 2011 Sorry Smirking wasn't ignoring you and you make a valid point....yes it could just be that the players are not available and no-one wants to release their best but then again agents want their cut and do their best to get moves for their players no matter how long the contract is. I am sure Cortese wont pay over the odds and that is why perhaps the player I was hoping for hasn't arrived ....yet ;-) Depends who you want ?? Before the window i was thinking keep Chaplow, Guly and Lallana and i will be a reletively happy man. Thats happened and i am, if punch is going we should have N'Guessan as a replacement, hopefully if AOC goes we may get another. We are perhaps a striker short in truth, and i am hoping for ALF. But lets wait and see, we are not their yet and most of the bigger deals happen towards the end of the season it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 26 January, 2011 Share Posted 26 January, 2011 Depends who you want ?? Before the window i was thinking keep Chaplow, Guly and Lallana and i will be a reletively happy man. Thats happened and i am, if punch is going we should have N'Guessan as a replacement, hopefully if AOC goes we may get another. We are perhaps a striker short in truth, and i am hoping for ALF. But lets wait and see, we are not their yet and most of the bigger deals happen towards the end of the season it seems. Scored 1 goal since the end of November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 26 January, 2011 Share Posted 26 January, 2011 Scored 1 goal since the end of November. It isn't quite as bad as it sounds, as that is only 6 games without a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 26 January, 2011 Share Posted 26 January, 2011 Brighton fans wanted him - "we can dream" http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?190311-Dany-N-Guessan/page2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 26 January, 2011 Share Posted 26 January, 2011 Yes I explained that Chez... I read it wrong on wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Tyson He is allowed to talk to clubs if he is out of contract and I thought as he had played so few not much chance of a contract renew. I believe that all players are mercenaries...given enough incentive they will move. The point with Fonte was that he was happy to come to us..were we the only club after him considering how good he is ...I am glad we got him. P.S 7 starts out of 25 according to this http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/nottm_forest/9372103.stm he is certainly a decent shout especially if we are promoted. Currently Forrest have a number of players heading toward the end of their contracts and the chairman is trying to get the wage bill down and as a result has offered existing players such as Ernie less than they are on now. Needless to say negotiations aren't moving especially quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 26 January, 2011 Share Posted 26 January, 2011 Scored 1 goal since the end of November. I still think the lad has quality. Though that said, we have a striker with arial power and a striker that is clinical, what we need is a pacey front man, i am not sure ALF fits that bill. But then, pacey front men are few and far between at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 26 January, 2011 Share Posted 26 January, 2011 Did our Nigel (Pearson) bring him to Leicester? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 26 January, 2011 Share Posted 26 January, 2011 50k for Chaplow is hardly splashing out Nick is it? Guly I have not seen a fee but do you think it was large fee for a SerieB player?? Serie A player* And it was around £800k I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 January, 2011 Share Posted 26 January, 2011 Serie A player* And it was around £800k I reckon. If you're going by FM figures but yeah - i'd guess at around the 1m euro mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 26 January, 2011 Share Posted 26 January, 2011 If you're going by FM figures but yeah - i'd guess at around the 1m euro mark MLG is usually good with figures - and £800k sounds about right to me anyway. It's probably what i'd rate him at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 26 January, 2011 Share Posted 26 January, 2011 If you're going by FM figures but yeah - i'd guess at around the 1m euro mark Exactly what I did for FM, try to make an educated guess. I could be very wrong, but I doubt we'll ever know how much he cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Halo* Posted 26 January, 2011 Share Posted 26 January, 2011 Managed to get hold of a Leicester supporting friend tonight, and from our exchange, he had this to say about Dany: "He could well work out a very good signing for you. Always rated him myself, but we've got a lot of very good options in wide positions, and he just wasn't able to hold down a place this season. But last year he was a very useful player for us." Asked him what are the best and worst aspects of his game: "Well I wouldn't say he's lightening quick or anything, but he certainly has a good turn of pace. His top speed is pretty decent, but acceleration could be better. Good with both feet too. Tends to use his skills and tricks to beat players, and can work his way out of tights situations with flashes of brilliance, but sometimes tries to beat his man repeatedly, and hold the ball up too long for my liking at times which can let other players catch up. Usually manages to get his cross in anyway though, no matter how many players he has to get past. But once he's through in behind, he's quite hard to catch, and very strong on the ball to hold off challenges." The bit that concerns me slightly (knowing what a small section of our fanbase can be like) is in the last quote: "Dany is really a confidence player though. When he's on his game, he can be awesome and difficult to stop, but he's not the most consistent at this level. Should be fine for you guys though. When he's confident, his tricks and step-overs seems to come off, but if he's not getting the rub of the green, then his head can drop. I would not say he's got a bad attitude, but when things aren't going right for him, if his head drops, he can seem like he gives up, and fades out of the game. Just needs to be well managed to keep his confidence up and keep him motivated. He likes to feel appreciated by the fans, and have a good rapport with the crowd, and he's certainly a fun personality to have around in that sense. Make him feel welcome and give him your support when he has off days. If you boo him he'll lose confidence and go into his shell, but if you encourage him, he'll try harder. Just treat him well and he'll prove a good signing for you, I'm sure. Hope he does well down there for you, and helps you get promoted. It really is a sh*t league, and clubs of both our stature need to be back in the Prem where belong. Best of luck for the rest of the season mate." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 Tyson at Forest:lol: ..out of contract end of season - wages..possibly an issue but would be Ok if promoted next season as well. I would of gone for BWP...good enough for Charlton so why not us. Has pace that we need and different to what we have. Short term contract - cost nothing. McK-S - was quality against us and really stood out - I have been admirer of his play for ages and watched him on purpose at SMS. Pugh:lol:as have told you already has been the Cherries stand out player and costs a fraction more than the Sky money on Saturday proven in this division. :lol: You do know that we let BWP go, and now you want him back, when he went most on here applauded it, he is not what Saints need right now, or back then IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 :lol: You do know that we let BWP go, and now you want him back, when he went most on here applauded it, he is not what Saints need right now, or back then IMHO. What division were we in then compared to now? So Charlton think he is good eneough yet you don't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 What division were we in then compared to now? So Charlton think he is good eneough yet you don't? Me and many others that post on here, oh!, and several people I know who don't post on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 He takes from the Skates - BWP he takes from the Skates... End of... Not part of my club thankyou!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 "Dany is really a confidence player though. When he's on his game, he can be awesome and difficult to stop, but he's not the most consistent at this level. Should be fine for you guys though. When he's confident, his tricks and step-overs seems to come off, but if he's not getting the rub of the green, then his head can drop. I would not say he's got a bad attitude, but when things aren't going right for him, if his head drops, he can seem like he gives up, and fades out of the game. Just needs to be well managed to keep his confidence up and keep him motivated. He likes to feel appreciated by the fans, and have a good rapport with the crowd, and he's certainly a fun personality to have around in that sense. Make him feel welcome and give him your support when he has off days. If you boo him he'll lose confidence and go into his shell, but if you encourage him, he'll try harder. Just treat him well and he'll prove a good signing for you, I'm sure. Hope he does well down there for you, and helps you get promoted. It really is a sh*t league, and clubs of both our stature need to be back in the Prem where belong. Best of luck for the rest of the season mate." he's ****ed then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 I'd have been very disappointed and very underwhelmed if we'd re-signed BWP. He's currently injured, failed a medical at Reading and isn't very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 Yes I explained that Chez... I read it wrong on wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Tyson He is allowed to talk to clubs if he is out of contract and I thought as he had played so few not much chance of a contract renew. I believe that all players are mercenaries...given enough incentive they will move. The point with Fonte was that he was happy to come to us..were we the only club after him considering how good he is ...I am glad we got him. P.S 7 starts out of 25 according to this http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/nottm_forest/9372103.stm on the Swindon Newspaper website under the latest story about Charlie Austin there is a fans comment saying that Tyson might be joining Swindon on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 What division were we in then compared to now? So Charlton think he is good eneough yet you don't? The same one as we are in now. He was released in the Summer of Administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 I'd have been very disappointed and very underwhelmed if we'd re-signed BWP. He's currently injured, failed a medical at Reading and isn't very good. this...very mush this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 I'd have been very disappointed and very underwhelmed if we'd re-signed BWP. He's currently injured, failed a medical at Reading and isn't very good. But good enough and fit enough to sign for Charlton though?? Its immaterial now as he has signed so won't happen anyway will it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu0x Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 But good enough and fit enough to sign for Charlton though?? Its immaterial now as he has signed so won't happen anyway will it. Since when did signing for Charlton become the yardstick of a good player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 "Dany is really a confidence player though. When he's on his game, he can be awesome and difficult to stop, but he's not the most consistent at this level. Should be fine for you guys though. When he's confident, his tricks and step-overs seems to come off, but if he's not getting the rub of the green, then his head can drop. I would not say he's got a bad attitude, but when things aren't going right for him, if his head drops, he can seem like he gives up, and fades out of the game. Just needs to be well managed to keep his confidence up and keep him motivated. He likes to feel appreciated by the fans, and have a good rapport with the crowd, and he's certainly a fun personality to have around in that sense. Make him feel welcome and give him your support when he has off days. If you boo him he'll lose confidence and go into his shell, but if you encourage him, he'll try harder. Just treat him well and he'll prove a good signing for you, I'm sure. Hope he does well down there for you, and helps you get promoted. It really is a sh*t league, and clubs of both our stature need to be back in the Prem where belong. Best of luck for the rest of the season mate." he's ****ed then. In any other industry, earning £5k a week (or whatever he's on) and letting negative customer feedback affect your performance that easily would result in instant dismissal, not a cuddle and a "there, there...diddums...don't let the baddy waddy customers make you all upset now my precious" Footballers get on my tits sometimes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 (edited) Since when did signing for Charlton become the yardstick of a good player? When they became a rival? Edited 27 January, 2011 by Give it to Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 In any other industry, earning £5k a week (or whatever he's on) and letting negative customer feedback affect your performance that easily would result in instant dismissal, not a cuddle and a "there, there...diddums...don't let the baddy waddy customers make you all upset now my precious" Footballers get on my tits sometimes... But football is different, it's not a precise science.Sport is sport and with it go all the "aléas". It's why you can't be sacked for being crap in football and why contracts are fixed term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 But football is different, it's not a precise science.Sport is sport and with it go all the "aléas". It's why you can't be sacked for being crap in football and why contracts are fixed term. Fair point. Sorry, just one of my periodical irrational rants.... :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 Fair point. Sorry, just one of my periodical irrational rants.... :-) My wife gets those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 My wife gets those. Mrs Keys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint sfc Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 I like the look of him! He's a bit of a Puncheon but with a lot more strength. Perfect replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu0x Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 When they became a rival? Charlton have been like a parallel club to Saints for about 10 years. Both survived arguably beyond their 'right' to do so in the Premiership, both adhered to tight budgets, frequently sold their most valuable players to more 'fashionable' teams. They have even mirrored our slide down the divisions. So by your logic, every player that has signed for Charlton in that period of time was good enough to play for Saints, on account simply of Charlton being interested in them? Perhaps we should have signed every player they targeted, and just used them as our scouting network? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 Charlton have been like a parallel club to Saints for about 10 years. Both survived arguably beyond their 'right' to do so in the Premiership, both adhered to tight budgets, frequently sold their most valuable players to more 'fashionable' teams. They have even mirrored our slide down the divisions. So by your logic, every player that has signed for Charlton in that period of time was good enough to play for Saints, on account simply of Charlton being interested in them? Perhaps we should have signed every player they targeted, and just used them as our scouting network? Even better maybe we could use a club that hasnt mirrored our slide down the leagues as our scouting network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 Even better maybe we could use a club that hasnt mirrored our slide down the leagues as our scouting network. yeah..good point, hardly a good idea using a club that has been equally shyt as us in the last 5 years as a yard stick to measure success..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 I like the look of him! He's a bit of a Puncheon but with a lot more strength. Perfect replacement. Have you arm wrestled him then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 In any other industry, earning £5k a week (or whatever he's on) and letting negative customer feedback affect your performance that easily would result in instant dismissal, not a cuddle and a "there, there...diddums...don't let the baddy waddy customers make you all upset now my precious" Footballers get on my tits sometimes... the days of youth development officers and later youth team coaches needling and balling out schoolboys and then apprentices specifically to test them and to harden them to what will inevitably come from 20k plus crowds seem to be long gone. This may go some way to explain why many of today's players are good when the goings good but dissappear when things aren't going well. I wonder how many younger pros these days have the balls that the likes of Telfer and Wright showed when they battled against real abuse from home fans. It takes real character to do that and that was certainly something the likes of Higgins, Rofe and Merrington looked for in a player back in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 yeah..good point, hardly a good idea using a club that has been equally shyt as us in the last 5 years as a yard stick to measure success..lol As usual you take this to the wrong extreme - where does anyone say we are measuring success? Do you want to try and explain how 7 out of 25 games is half?? "tyson has made 23 appearances this season.....half from the bench....clearly getting plenty of time on the pitch....ffs " http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/nottm_forest/9372103.stm Here are some more gems from you: "out side of the a couple of big clubs in the prem...please point me in the direction of the other multi million ££££ signings in england...let alone league 1 " So when you were shown transfers out of Prem like Hull, Leicester, QPR and in England you changed that to: "I never said outside of the top 4...I said a few top prem clubs..." You are not exactly qualified to judge others posts are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 As usual you take this to the wrong extreme - where does anyone say we are measuring success? Do you want to try and explain how 7 out of 25 games is half?? "tyson has made 23 appearances this season.....half from the bench....clearly getting plenty of time on the pitch....ffs " http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/nottm_forest/9372103.stm Here are some more gems from you: "out side of the a couple of big clubs in the prem...please point me in the direction of the other multi million ££££ signings in england...let alone league 1 " So when you were shown transfers out of Prem like Hull, Leicester, QPR and in England you changed that to: "I never said outside of the top 4...I said a few top prem clubs..." You are not exactly qualified to judge others posts are you? at the end of the day..I dont need saint to sign multi million pound players to reassure me they are not skint.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 But good enough and fit enough to sign for Charlton though?? Its immaterial now as he has signed so won't happen anyway will it. He's ****, do give it a rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 He's ****, do give it a rest. Yeah of course he is ...how many Saints players have scored 12 this season?? Another one who can't read! Its immaterial now as he has signed so won't happen anyway will it. post 228 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 See post #192 Barnard ...in court soon Connolly ...when was last time he started? Lallana....currently injured So that leaves Oxo who I hope stays and Doble...so your point is? couldn't have said it better myself ( Give it to Ron). This type of short-sighted ----( " we've got the best squad - we don't need anyone else - it's unsettling , etc) thread seems to fill this site periodically. There is no saying that any judge will take account of our promotion hopes when LB goes back to court ...and then with Hammond and Lallana out - for who knows how long, and Connolly never fit enough to start we have no experienced back-up to call on. The idea of not signing someone who isn't better than what we have sounds fine - except when injured - we don't have them. Puncheon doesn't want to be here and with AOC seemingly being offered a crock of gold by half the Prem. teams ...where is the team?, let alone the back-up. Sorry -whoever you are started this one - a loan winger from Leicester isn't going to solve this problem overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 the days of youth development officers and later youth team coaches needling and balling out schoolboys and then apprentices specifically to test them and to harden them to what will inevitably come from 20k plus crowds seem to be long gone. This may go some way to explain why many of today's players are good when the goings good but dissappear when things aren't going well. I wonder how many younger pros these days have the balls that the likes of Telfer and Wright showed when they battled against real abuse from home fans. It takes real character to do that and that was certainly something the likes of Higgins, Rofe and Merrington looked for in a player back in the day. Budding Academy / youth / call them what you will - players are best brought in to a successful side where they can " bed in" as AOC has done. Starting with 60 mins.-a - game, or coming on for the last quarter, they build on confidence. Looking back decades the most successful youth players weren't used to save the side, but to complement it. Channon, Steve Williams, Moran, MLT all had talent but grew up playing alongside seasoned professionals who helped them along. Because AOC is a big success now , is due in no small measure to those around him. He is a great prospect but can't do it alone, as will be seen when he eventually moves to the Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohwhenthesaints Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 couldn't have said it better myself ( Give it to Ron). This type of short-sighted ----( " we've got the best squad - we don't need anyone else - it's unsettling , etc) thread seems to fill this site periodically. There is no saying that any judge will take account of our promotion hopes when LB goes back to court ...and then with Hammond and Lallana out - for who knows how long, and Connolly never fit enough to start we have no experienced back-up to call on. The idea of not signing someone who isn't better than what we have sounds fine - except when injured - we don't have them. Puncheon doesn't want to be here and with AOC seemingly being offered a crock of gold by half the Prem. teams ...where is the team?, let alone the back-up. Sorry -whoever you are started this one - a loan winger from Leicester isn't going to solve this problem overnight. No, but it's a start and shows that Adkins is well aware of where we need strengthening. We have also been enquiring about Austin and CMS, showing that he is looking for options up front. If those don't come off I'm sure he has other irons in the fire. Be patient, he knows what he is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 do you think sitting on the bench/playing in the ressies for Reading would have changed my mind then?! Sorry excuse the word 'still' , I mean with what he did for us in general? Just remember at JPT final, as I was saying to my Dad, he is so raw and unpredictable his final ball makes him his own worse enemy, he crossed the ball and we won that penalty. Never really picked up on someone else not that doesn't rate him just automatically 'frustrated' towards him like some people are to Punch. If offered now, would you want him in this squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 Sorry excuse the word 'still' , I mean with what he did for us in general? Just remember at JPT final, as I was saying to my Dad, he is so raw and unpredictable his final ball makes him his own worse enemy, he crossed the ball and we won that penalty. Never really picked up on someone else not that doesn't rate him just automatically 'frustrated' towards him like some people are to Punch. If offered now, would you want him in this squad? He really wasn't as great as a lot of people make out Tac-tics, technically he was pretty poor and had his fair share of poor games along with his good games. He was just quick and strong, ok for this league but as i said at the time i doubt very much he would cut it in the Championship or any further, it appears so far i was correct. Then there were the people that said he would be a premiership player in a few years, i am sorry, he won't. Would i have him in the squad ?? If we had Lallana, AOC and Punch all on form and wanting to play then no not really, he wouldn't get near the team. Would i want him now ? For anything under perhaps 100k then yes but not for the rediculous price Reading wanted. Aren't you a coach or something now ?? His first touch lets him down, and IMO you can't teach touch and technique after the age of 14/15 at the latest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 No Im fully in the same boat as you and as I dare say it Saint Stevo, I just thought mostly people on here thought he was alot better than he was. Ive had alot of saints fans argue his case so I was interested that others thought the same!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokingFun Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 Gobern and Doble are only backup at the moment because of the Injuries to Hammond, Lallana and Connelly. They'll be back soon and our setup will look much stronger. and then we'll likely have a bench of - Bart, Seaborne, Butterfield, Barnard, Connolly, Chaplow/hammond, Dickson, Punch/N'guessan now, to me...that bench is mental for a L1 team. Of course the squad will look stretched at points during the season, Man Utd's does sometimes. You can't just go and spend, spend, spend, spend when actually there is no reason to. Our squad is already good enough, we now need the consistency to go with it and arguably buying lots more players is likely to unsettle the team structure anyway, so isn't likely to = consistency straight away. I really don't understand this constant quoting that we need consistency by people. We already have that at Saints in terms of management, players and performances. We are averaging almost 2 points per game since NA came into the building and there is no real sign of that stopping irrespective of the results versus Notts Co and Tranmere. The reality is we just need to continue to be consistent over 6 games at a time to get promoted assuming NA record continues and there is no reason why it shouldn't. Saints are very consistent now for a L1 club since Adkins came in. Simple as that! By the way, I agree with you on all other points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 January, 2011 Share Posted 27 January, 2011 No Im fully in the same boat as you and as I dare say it Saint Stevo, I just thought mostly people on here thought he was alot better than he was. Ive had alot of saints fans argue his case so I was interested that others thought the same!! Never been a fan, he was a decent impact player for us, but nothing more IMO and i never saw a future for him outside of League 1. I understand that many many fans thought he was god, but then these are the same fans that slagged off Puncheons inconsitancy but then praised Antonios as being 'unpredictable' IMO most football fans generally don't look at the whole picture and don't appreciate the subtleties in football. But thats just me, FWIW i always thought McGoldrick looked better as a midfielder aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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