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I am clearly a fan of Le Tissier (as you can tell from my user name) but Matt said some less than nice things about Cortese over the last 18 months. If I were Cortese I wouldn't be jumping through hoops for Le Tiss, granting him his every wish.

 

Agree with this I`m afraid

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Whilst Pinnacle had exclusivity I was told that they didn't have a pot to pee in and were only still there because Crouch had put up the deposit and the MLT name, however the Swiss were blue chip but if they decided to walk the club was gone. Fry was an idiot that got lucky, MLT likewise and most of all the football club getting Markus Leibherr.

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I wonder what you'd think if we had another fundraiser for say, Danny Wallace or Ron Davies. If we treated everyone the same why should we raise money for anyone, or maybe the money should be spread around every single player we've ever had.

 

What if Andrei Kanchelskis got ill. He played for Saints so should be treated the same as Danny Wallace. Right?

 

Some players are more equal than others. Matt Le Tissier shouldn't be treated equally as some Joe Schmoe Saints fan from Bitterne.

 

Matt Le Tissier will be in my heart and many other saints fans hearts a hell of a lot longer than the ratfaced foreigner who just happens to be the MD of the holding company that owns my football club.

 

With comments like that and threads like this

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?24802-quot-Unfounded-quot-speculation-and-rumour-in-the-Echo.....&highlight=pardew

 

you sound like an egotistical 12 year old.

 

There's nothing wrong with voicing your opinion about Cortese but you are doing yourself absolutely no favours at all in the way you do it.

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There have been over 10,000 seats empty at most of our home games this year, so Matt deserves 10 seats I reckon! If 10 people who haven't been to a game this year miss out tough sh*t. No one is bigger than the club and at the moment NC holds the power and is doing a good job as we "should" be promoted this year and have the core of a Championship squad. We shouldn't forget Matt's ability either he was a great player and IMO second only to Cantona in the best player of the early years of the Premiership. Maybe NC is so intense in his focus he doesn't worry about the club history and is determined to write his own, I'm not saying this is a good thing but that is the way he works

 

 

Amen, some sense at last. Great post.

 

Funny, there's a hell of a lot of people on this thread that seem to think there is an army of "honest working men" that have dedicated their lives to supporting Saints who are being frozen out by nine of Matt Le Tissier's mates.

 

These died in the wool megafans seem to be spoilt for choice at every other home game - Matt's nine friends aren't stopping them buying a ticket for all those games.

 

 

If this was a Rupert Lowe decision I guarantee no-one (except a couple of swivel eyed Luvvies) on here would droning on about "Le Tissier got paid while he was here, he doesn't deserve anything else from the club".

 

There is a frightening and spooky cult growing up around Cortese. It's a hell of a lot more myopic and messanic than anything the "Lowe luvvies" came out with.

 

It's creepy, very creepy when fans decided to stand shoulder to shoulder with the managing director over and above our greatest ever player.

 

Let's all meet up in the year 2021.

 

I'll be still there with Le Tissier and he'll still be a legend. Let's see how your new hero gets on and let's see who gets a statue first.

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A very odd view point CB Fry. I don't think anyone is saying Le Tissier doesn't deserve anything else from the club. The article is also very misleading - he wasn't snubbed at all, he was just offered a reasonable amount of tickets. Where's the cut off point for you? Would it be OK for him to ask for 20 tickets?

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If this was a Rupert Lowe decision I guarantee no-one (except a couple of swivel eyed Luvvies) on here would droning on about "Le Tissier got paid while he was here, he doesn't deserve anything else from the club".

 

So so true. Many on here seem to be scared to criticise anything Cortese does.

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CB Fry likes to imagine himself as uniquely gifted, able to step outside the crowd see and see things clearly. He needs to conjure up an imaginary tide of opinion to fight against and earn his self awarded messianic status. Shame really. Funny though.

 

Infinitely superior poster to yourself.

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ffs, he has only said Le tiss cant have 10 tickets...how on earth does that make him a **** like some are painting..?

I may be wrong, but le tiss is getting 3 tickets..right..?

 

ffs

 

I think he should have been allowed 10, given that St Mary's stadium probably wouldn't exist if it wasn't for his loyalty, there were 4,000 left going into today.

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that is utterly daft....

 

would you give yours up for him..?

 

Wouldn't need to, can't you read, there were 4,000 left going into today. Anyone who really really wants to go will already have one.

 

If it doesn't sell out whoever made the decision not to sell him 10 tickets have cost SFC over £350.

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I think he should have been allowed 10, given that St Mary's stadium probably wouldn't exist if it wasn't for his loyalty, there were 4,000 left going into today.

 

Personally, based on what I know about the situation, which is only that Matt was a great player for us, I would have given him 10 as well. But is there more to this story which would change your opinion and mine? yes probably imo. The club should set probably permanently aside a couple of executive boxes for free use by people who have rendered great service to the club in the past as a thankyou - and hopefully many of those who use it would to do a bit of ambassador work free of charge in return.

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Wouldn't need to, can't you read, there were 4,000 left going into today. Anyone who really really wants to go will already have one.

 

If it doesn't sell out whoever made the decision not to sell him 10 tickets have cost SFC over £350.

 

so..if it came to it..you would not give up your seat for the great man...?

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Personally, based on what I know about the situation, which is only that Matt was a great player for us, I would have given him 10 as well. But is there more to this story which would change your opinion and mine? yes probably imo. The club should set probably permanently aside a couple of executive boxes for free use by people who have rendered great service to the club in the past as a thankyou - and hopefully many of those who use it would to do a bit of ambassador work free of charge in return.

 

There might be more to this story than what we have read, we don't know.

 

One thing you cannot deny though is what CB Fry said - if this story broke when Lowe was running the club he would have got a thorough kicking from everyone on here.

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One thing you cannot deny though is what CB Fry said - if this story broke when Lowe was running the club he would have got a thorough kicking from everyone on here.

 

Thats true. tbf though, if this story had broken three months ago Cortese would have got a big kicking as well. I think what has changed is that people have slagged Cortese in the past without knowing the facts (half season tickets not being paid for; signing a 'crap' player in Guly and forcing Pardew to play him; sacking a great manager and appointing a **** one) and as result many are preapred to cut him some slack because none of us knows what happens behind the scenes.

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well, he clearly wants 10 tickets and it is not going to happen...I fully expect you to offer your ticket the minute the game is a sell out for home fans.....seeing as you feel the club should just give him what he wants (he is getting 3)

 

I'm offering it now. I would happily watch it down the pub because a bunch of my mates, who also are not being allowed to buy tickets, are watching it there.

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There was no personal attack in that post. Read it again, it's only two sentences long.

 

I was talking about the twisting of my example into an implied opinion of Le Tissier as "basically the equivalent of a trumped up civil servant who doesn't really deserve any kind of honour or respect", and even worse, someone who would think that Ted Bates (a very humble old Gentleman who I had the pleasure with speaking to on two occasions) should have his statue torn down. You did write these things, It shouldn't be that hard to remember. Oh, and it was three sentences, do try and keep up.

 

There are plenty of footballers now earning more in a year than Le Tissier earned in his career. Ted Bates was paid for his services to Saints and got lots of adulation in his time too. Isn't that reward enough, just like your civil servant?

 

Really, are you going to compare the life of Ted Bates, a man who served with distinction not only as a player, and retired a full decade before the lifting of the £20 footballers wage cap, had his house bombed, and went on to manage, direct and chair saints, to Matt Le tiss? Their wages and situations were so different it's almost as big of a joke as you bringing it up.

 

The "ordinary working man" faces plenty of challenges in getting into "Premier League" level (which this game is, in price and stature) football matches without a handful of friends of a Saints legend being held responsible..

 

Exactly, so what, we should be putting a few more hurdles to jump in the way? "hey guys, it appears you've attended the requisite number of games, paying out the not inconsiderable amount of money required in the process. Just one last thing, are you friends with Matt le Tiss? No? Oh well sorry, **** off then, LOL".

 

There will be plenty of non-"ordinary working men" at that Man United game. And guess what, some of them might not be close friends of Matthew Le Tissier.

 

I already realise this. If Matt had phoned up for 1 or 2 tickets and been refused at the general sale stage, I'm guessing there would be a lot more sympthay, as that is when the exec comp/scalpers also get involved, and I'm sure anyone would prefer 'real' fans to get those tickets. Or he could had he not bleated to the downmarket Star.Or stop digging at the chairman, and pretending he and his consortium buddies were super billionaires including Donald Trump, Ruth Badger, Paul allen and the real Slim Shady.

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Doesn't make pleasant reading, whichever side of the fence you're sitting on and such a furore doesn't really reflect well on anyone.

 

As I see it Matty's crime is wanting to queue jump to get tickets for friends and families, pulling rank and asking a favour due to who he is. Not crime of the century and I certainly don't buy in to the line that he's depriving a "real fan" of a seat.

 

Every season ticket holder has had a chance to get their seat and with a week to go we still have 6,500 left. Siphoning off 10 (probably less if you think that Matty, his missus and nipper etc should be on the database!!!!!) wasn't going to deprive anyone who really wanted to go.

 

With attendances of around 21,000, I imagine even by the time you take in those who don't make every game, we're only looking at needing to cover the 25,000 "real fans" we have (the balance come for top flight football, special offers or glamour cup ties etc). If we sell out, then maybe 10 of these floating Premiership fans may have lost out.

 

That said, letting on to the press isn't overly clever or necessary and perhaps Matty should have been diplomatic, even if he believes he has been snubbed (although I'll happily retract that if it wasn't Matty who leaked the story, or if he hasn't moaned about it).

 

There does appear to be a bit of a feud running here, so if anyone has a connection between the Club and Matty then I would like to see them try and knock some sense in to both parties as it is so unnecessary.

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Really, are you going to compare the life of Ted Bates, a man who served with distinction not only as a player, and retired a full decade before the lifting of the £20 footballers wage cap, had his house bombed, and went on to manage, direct and chair saints, to Matt Le tiss? Their wages and situations were so different it's almost as big of a joke as you bringing it up.

 

 

Well, you're comparing some "ordinary working Saints fan" with the greatest player this club has ever produced. If anyone started the ridiculous comparisons, it was you. Your premise was that everyone should, like, be treated the same and stuff. It didn't take long for me to prove that you don't think everyone should be treated the same after all.

 

 

Exactly, so what, we should be putting a few more hurdles to jump in the way? "hey guys, it appears you've attended the requisite number of games, paying out the not inconsiderable amount of money required in the process. Just one last thing, are you friends with Matt le Tiss? No? Oh well sorry, **** off then, LOL".

 

 

Guess what, there's loads of tickets left for your salt of the earth megafans. Loads. Turns out these super fans don't have their noses pressed against the box office window while Matt Le Tissier egged on by his laughing non-football fan mates demands 600 tickets from a weeping receptionist.

 

If they want a ticket they can go and buy one.

 

 

I'm sure anyone would prefer 'real' fans to get those tickets.

 

 

In other news, Matthew Le Tissier no longer a real fan of Southampton football club.

 

 

Or stop digging at the chairman, and pretending he and his consortium buddies were super billionaires including Donald Trump, Ruth Badger, Paul allen and the real Slim Shady.

 

 

Heaven forbid a club legend should get his finger out and work very hard to try and save the club he gave nearly two decades of service too. I'd say Ted Bates would have approved of that. Shame you see it as only fit to sneer at.

 

So that's the mentality of the ordinary working megafans far more deserving of tickets than Matthew Le Tissier.....Stick your 17 years and 162 goals up your arse and stop bullying our precious chairman.

 

"Stop digging at our chairman" he says. "Stop digging at our chairman". Our chairman. That's who you support now. I remember football was about players and dreams. Now apparently it's all about supporting the, er, chairman.

 

Thanks for clearing that up.

 

Get all pompous about Ted Bates against Matty if you like, but Matthew Le Tissier is worth 10,000 Nicola Corteses in the history of the club I support.

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There might be more to this story than what we have read, we don't know.

 

One thing you cannot deny though is what CB Fry said - if this story broke when Lowe was running the club he would have got a thorough kicking from everyone on here.

 

Not so sure.I think quite a few fans have started to realise that Matt (along with a few other *cough* legends) have agenda that is not benificial to the club.

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Well, you're comparing some "ordinary working Saints fan" with the greatest player this club has ever produced. If anyone started the ridiculous comparisons, it was you. Your premise was that everyone should, like, be treated the same and stuff. It didn't take long for me to prove that you don't think everyone should be treated the same after all.

 

Guess what, there's loads of tickets left for your salt of the earth megafans. Loads. Turns out these super fans don't have their noses pressed against the box office window while Matt Le Tissier egged on by his laughing non-football fan mates demands 600 tickets from a weeping receptionist.

 

If they want a ticket they can go and buy one.

 

 

 

In other news, Matthew Le Tissier no longer a real fan of Southampton football club.

 

 

 

 

Heaven forbid a club legend should get his finger out and work very hard to try and save the club he gave nearly two decades of service too. I'd say Ted Bates would have approved of that. Shame you see it as only fit to sneer at.

 

So that's the mentality of the ordinary working megafans far more deserving of tickets than Matthew Le Tissier.....Stick your 17 years and 162 goals up your arse and stop bullying our precious chairman.

 

"Stop digging at our chairman" he says. "Stop digging at our chairman". Our chairman. That's who you support now. I remember football was about players and dreams. Now apparently it's all about supporting the, er, chairman.

 

Thanks for clearing that up.

 

Wow, I see what you did there. While i took your actual words point for point, you selectively quoted me, missing out important qualifiers, and adding hysterical reactions afterwards, inferring opinions, which btw, I don't actually hold. (btw, i especially liked the bit where you try and make out I'm claiming MLT is not a saints fan; Very spaceage of you). My First ever saints game was a 2-1 defeat to nottingham forest, Jean claude darchville and steve stone for them I think, But it didn't matter, my support was resevered for a saints penalty in the dying minutes. The scorer? Matthew Le Tissier. Though obviously you know everything about my opinion of the man, seeing as you present me as having a borderline hatred of him (though it should be noted, not as half as impressive as your hate for the "the ratfaced foreigner".

 

You do realise that in the part you've quoted me, I say "The chairman" and not "Our Chairman"? Wierd point to make. Although he is our chairman you know. He came in when he nearly folded not so long long ago, you may have heard about it? Oh and Matt get his finger out? The criticism is that he nearly cost the club it's exsistance by championing a hopeless bid. Without Cortese and co, we wouldn't have a team to anable dreams of Higher division football, so maybe you can stop your sad little vendetta, come back down to planet earth, and enjoy the road ahead. I don't think anyone will make you write a valentines to cortese.

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So that's the mentality of the ordinary working megafans far more deserving of tickets than Matthew Le Tissier.....Stick your 17 years and 162 goals up your arse and stop bullying our precious chairman.

 

"Stop digging at our chairman" he says. "Stop digging at our chairman". Our chairman. That's who you support now. I remember football was about players and dreams. Now apparently it's all about supporting the, er, chairman.

That would be the Chairman who saved our football club as opposed to MLT who fronted the "Pinnacle Group" who nearly killed off our club and who has spent the last year sniping at Cortese.

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That would be the Chairman who saved our football club as opposed to MLT who fronted the "Pinnacle Group" who nearly killed off our club and who has spent the last year sniping at Cortese.

 

Oh FFS all Matt le Tiss did was try to save the club he loved, if you see that as a negative you are a ****-wit.

 

We all agree that the club is in good hands, no one wants Cortese to leave, that doesn't mean you have to agree with every one of his decisions like some spineless wet mong.

 

All the club legend wanted was a chance to BUY some tickets. That's give £500 of his hard earned to a club he loves to watch a team in a stadium that wouldn't exist if it wasn't for his work.

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Not so sure.I think quite a few fans have started to realise that Matt (along with a few other *cough* legends) have agenda that is not benificial to the club.

 

I must say that after reading the other thread about conspiracies and saboteurs I'm somewhat confused.

 

Just what is this "agenda" that so many poeple seem fixated on?

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That would be the Chairman who saved our football club

 

I will always (I hope) have utmost respect and gratitude for Liebherr, Corteses and anyone else involved in "rescuing" us as at the time I really did think that Saints would cease to exist, at least in the guise of a big club playing at SMS.

 

It was the real concern that we were going under that bring us on to:

 

as opposed to MLT who fronted the "Pinnacle Group" who nearly killed off our club

 

I think that is rather harsh as in the context of the time and the fear of going under that Matty put his name to the Pinnacle bid. It may have been a rather shiite bid and Matty may have been somewhat naive, but I'm certainly not going to give him a hard time for at least trying to do something. Had we or Matty been aware that in doing so he may have jeopardised Liebherr's bid then I'm sure he wouldn't have run with it in the way he did.

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I will always (I hope) have utmost respect and gratitude for Liebherr, Corteses and anyone else involved in "rescuing" us as at the time I really did think that Saints would cease to exist, at least in the guise of a big club playing at SMS.

 

It was the real concern that we were going under that bring us on to:

 

 

 

I think that is rather harsh as in the context of the time and the fear of going under that Matty put his name to the Pinnacle bid. It may have been a rather shiite bid and Matty may have been somewhat naive, but I'm certainly not going to give him a hard time for at least trying to do something. Had we or Matty been aware that in doing so he may have jeopardised Liebherr's bid then I'm sure he wouldn't have run with it in the way he did.

 

Quite,

 

I can clearly remember watching SSN in the middle of the crisis and they played a film of Saints highlights (some of MLT's wonder goals, couple of Beattie goals, FA Cup final footage etc.) to the song from 'As time Goes By' and MLT was in tears at the end of it.

 

He then clearly said "I will back any serious bid that has the finances to buy out and save the club"

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10 tickets for a game is an over the top request.

 

I'm trying to get back, that's a hell of an effort, so why can't I get an extra ticket for my GF who would love to come with me, we'd then both be making a hell of an effort? But I didn't even bother to ask, knowing that other Saints fans who have gone through many years of pain and expense watching the club (and MLT) would not be able to get tickets. I understand that OTHER SAINTS FANS WANT TO GET TO THE GAME and THEY deserve the tickets.

 

Who were the 9 mates? Those tickets will be worth around 150 pounds to the touts on the day of the game. Where do touts get their tickets from?

 

Are the 9 mates important media people or marketing people or people that will help the club?

 

How many games have his 9 mates been to see? Are they Mancs? are they just "Have to go to big event" luvvies? Are they Saints fans?

 

Why should some old boy who had a season ticket 10 years ago and went home and away not be able to get a ticket for a once every 5 years opportunity?

 

Saints have something like 3 or 400,000 people who follow their fortunes in some way or another (eg My Mum). Are the 9 actually INTERESTED in the club? Could they name any or our players OTHER than AOC or Lallana?

 

And finally, Moan to the Press? Sorry, that is what is really wrong here.

 

I am sure that if MLT had actually been trying to get tickets for mates of his who ARE real Saints fans and had answered something like these hypothetical questions then the club would have helped.

 

But I'm sorry, he has his tickets, why should "Celebrity Hangers On" be able to jump the queue in front of everyone else?

 

Did the club give Rupert or Mike Wilde even one ticket? Did they give Mark Fry a ticket? We have no idea but I bet they gave them NONE.

 

Yet they let MLT have 3. Anyone else on here get 3 tickets allocated JUST to them with no other details?

 

Those other 7 tickets would have kept Saints fans away from the game. MLT did not give a strong enough case for "his mates". Fair enough.

 

But to THEN go to the press and moan?

 

Sorry, that is way out of order. I'm not backing the Club here but FFS Matt, get a grip of yourself, a petulant temper tantrum is what I would excpect from a 6 year old kid, it wasn't needed and it makes you look childish and greedy.

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Matt fronted no bid. He lent his support to any group who were taking over.

 

And was then hijacked by a bunch of Amateurs who thought it would be good PR and forced into a corner.

 

He clearly stated in the Echo (as UP says) that he would support anyone trying to save the club. Pinnacle came along, and were the ONLY bid on the table and Of COURSE he said he would back them. Pinnacle & The Echo then turned him into their own Front Man. He was naively stitched up.

 

(Source MLT himself at Emirates Golf Club when he visited Dubai last year for the Brazil v England game in Qatar and reported on here)

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10 tickets for a game is an over the top request.

 

I'm trying to get back, that's a hell of an effort, so why can't I get an extra ticket for my GF who would love to come with me, we'd then both be making a hell of an effort? But I didn't even bother to ask, knowing that other Saints fans who have gone through many years of pain and expense watching the club (and MLT) would not be able to get tickets. I understand that OTHER SAINTS FANS WANT TO GET TO THE GAME and THEY deserve the tickets.

 

Who were the 9 mates? Those tickets will be worth around 150 pounds to the touts on the day of the game. Where do touts get their tickets from?

 

Are the 9 mates important media people or marketing people or people that will help the club?

 

How many games have his 9 mates been to see? Are they Mancs? are they just "Have to go to big event" luvvies? Are they Saints fans?

 

Why should some old boy who had a season ticket 10 years ago and went home and away not be able to get a ticket for a once every 5 years opportunity?

 

Saints have something like 3 or 400,000 people who follow their fortunes in some way or another (eg My Mum). Are the 9 actually INTERESTED in the club? Could they name any or our players OTHER than AOC or Lallana?

 

And finally, Moan to the Press? Sorry, that is what is really wrong here.

 

I am sure that if MLT had actually been trying to get tickets for mates of his who ARE real Saints fans and had answered something like these hypothetical questions then the club would have helped.

 

But I'm sorry, he has his tickets, why should "Celebrity Hangers On" be able to jump the queue in front of everyone else?

 

Did the club give Rupert or Mike Wilde even one ticket? Did they give Mark Fry a ticket? We have no idea but I bet they gave them NONE.

 

Yet they let MLT have 3. Anyone else on here get 3 tickets allocated JUST to them with no other details?

 

Those other 7 tickets would have kept Saints fans away from the game. MLT did not give a strong enough case for "his mates". Fair enough.

 

But to THEN go to the press and moan?

 

Sorry, that is way out of order. I'm not backing the Club here but FFS Matt, get a grip of yourself, a petulant temper tantrum is what I would excpect from a 6 year old kid, it wasn't needed and it makes you look childish and greedy.

 

This, Great overview.

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Matty could ring up this morning and get his ten!!!!!!!

 

Restrictions now lifted and anyone on the database can get more than one ticket.

 

How is the Database compilled? Is it not from people who have purchased tickets in the previous games home and away? Would Matty actually be in that database? Or does that database have a priority order? Say the most regular ticket purchasers are entitled to tickets ahead of the lesser purchasers?

 

I think being Matty should get him at least some privilages that the rest of us would have to earn but I agree with Phil's rant in that he probably needs to think a bit before going whining to the press.

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MLT stated on Sky at the Man U preview that he would not be able to get to the game.He said he is working on Soccer Saterday and the ko is too early for him to get down to SMS. Says it all really.

 

Hmmmmm.

 

Matty mate, love you to death as a hero and having met you you're a great bloke but FFS that old adage has been around for a long long time and you're old enough to have heard it before

 

Ensure brain is engaged before putting mouth in gear.

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MLT stated on Sky at the Man U preview that he would not be able to get to the game.He said he is working on Soccer Saterday and the ko is too early for him to get down to SMS. Says it all really.

 

Blimey, that makes Matty look like he was running to othe press just to get a dig at Cortese.

 

Get a grip Matty!

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