saint lard Posted 15 January, 2011 Share Posted 15 January, 2011 Grant apparently to be sacked whatever the result this weekend and O'neil to be installed. Blimey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 15 January, 2011 Share Posted 15 January, 2011 BBQ or HP? Well, he will be playing us next season then & will no doubt notice he made a mistake and we got lucky..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 15 January, 2011 Share Posted 15 January, 2011 He will probably save them. WHUFC choosing Grant was one of the strangest decisions ever. No idea what they based that on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 15 January, 2011 Share Posted 15 January, 2011 Martin O'Neill isn't the managerial god that everyone thinks he is. A few Villa players came out when he left and said his methods were about 10 years out of date. West Ham is about his level. Not good enough for a really top club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 15 January, 2011 Share Posted 15 January, 2011 Unlikely. What if Hammers beat Arsenal 4-0 today. No club would sack it's manager after a 4-0 win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 15 January, 2011 Share Posted 15 January, 2011 Martin O'Neill isn't the managerial god that everyone thinks he is. A few Villa players came out when he left and said his methods were about 10 years out of date. West Ham is about his level. Not good enough for a really top club. And yet look at Villa now. Top manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 16 January, 2011 Share Posted 16 January, 2011 Martin O'Neill isn't the managerial god that everyone thinks he is. A few Villa players came out when he left and said his methods were about 10 years out of date. West Ham is about his level. Not good enough for a really top club. Are they the same players who are now doing crap for Uncle Gerard, who doesn't train them so hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 16 January, 2011 Share Posted 16 January, 2011 Replacing an obnoxious whiner with another one! In terms of managerial ability though, they have probably just saved their season. Will the media myth that Grant is anything but a poor manager go away now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithd Posted 16 January, 2011 Share Posted 16 January, 2011 Unlikely. What if Hammers beat Arsenal 4-0 today. No club would sack it's manager after a 4-0 win. lols glad Grant is gone/going. up there with venables for overatedness in my opinion. done nothing, won nothing. and ugly too used to like o neill, but he's a boring irish moaner these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 16 January, 2011 Share Posted 16 January, 2011 And yet look at Villa now. Top manager. Disagree. I'd class people like Wenger, Ferguson, Mourinho, Hiddink, Capello and Guardiola top managers. The type of people who could walk into any club they wanted. O'Neill is a good manager, but has his limitations. None of the top five clubs in the PL (Or the other top leagues in Europe) would take him if they needed a new manager. As for saying, 'look at Villa now', who do you think signed most of those players? Yes Houiller is much worse, and they would be doing better if MON was still there, but O'Neill still deserves some of the blame for the state they are in now. A large portion of Villa fans don't have a good word to say about him after leaving them in the **** just before the season started. Lets not forget O'Neill spent a huge amount of money in his time at Villa. The best finish they achieved was 6th, which is the minimum you'd expect given the funds Randy Lerner provided. The fact is O'Neill squandered a lot of the money he was given. He has no knowledge of football outside England and Scotland (never signs anyone from abroad), and wasted a lot of money on complete rubbish. While clubs like Wigan were signing foreign gems like Palacios and Valencia for next to nothing. O'Neill was forking out big money for players like Nicky Shorey, Marlon Harewood, Curtis Davies, Habib Beye and Steve Sidwell, all who contributed little to nothing. If he'd looked abroad he could have definitely found better value for money than these players. He's a very one dimensional manager as well. I don't really enjoy watching his teams play to be honest. Plays very direct, with centre halfs and full back and relies a lot on getting goals from set pieces. His failure to rotate players also cost Villa in the last few years, as the players ran out of steam towards the end of the season after making good starts. It's well known O'Neill does very little on the training ground as well. Nicky Shorey said him and some of the others players weren't sad to see him go when he left (Although I'm sure they prefer him to Houllier) and that his methods were dated. His record in Europe (bar one UEFA Cup final season) is poor. He's been found out tactically time and time again on the big stage. It's not just Villa though. Gordon Strachan is regarded as a managerial joke by most people outside of Southampton, but he won as many titles (in less time than O'Neill) and progressed to the Champions League knock out stages two times compared to MON never getting passed the group stages. Strachan did it on about five times less transfer budget than O'Neill as well. O'Neill inherited Larsson and had a huge budget at Celtic, yet still didn't win the league 2/5 times. And yet he is a god in the eyes of Celtic fans, and Strachan is a clown. The decline at Villa was inevitable this season. That's why MON left. After wasting money on the players mentioned above, O'Neill was told to blood some of the excellent youngsters at Villa rather than bringing in more new faces for millions and leave them on the bench picking up huge wages. He bottled it and left Villa in the **** with a lot of old players on big money. Just like he did at Celtic and Leicester too. Not a bad manager, but not a top one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 16 January, 2011 Share Posted 16 January, 2011 * edit- Centre halfs AS full backs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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